Dow headed for the worst April since the Great Depression

[Redfish]

You cannot prove that, and we all know it.

government records prove it, the CBO proves it, even CNN acknowledged it. but you are free to remain partisanly ignorant if you choose.

 

[Hafar1014]

The Trump rout is taking on historic dimensions.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average shed almost 1,000 points on Monday and is headed for its worst April performance since 1932, according to Dow Jones Market Data. The S&P 500’s performance since Inauguration Day is now the worst for any president up to this point in data going back to 1928, according to Bespoke Investment Group.

Worries about trade restrictions and the prospect of President Trump firing Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell have investors bracing for greater losses ahead. Corporate earnings reports are rolling in, along with executives’ tariff-dented outlooks for the months ahead. Few think the administration’s negotiations with trade partners will yield results soon enough to ease the strain.

Meanwhile, counterweights that usually strengthen when stocks fall—such as government bonds and the U.S. dollar—are also under pressure, leaving investors with few havens to wait out the storm.

“It’s the hallmark of the ‘no confidence’ trade,” said Scott Ladner, chief investment officer at Horizon Investments. The Charlotte-based firm trimmed its U.S. equity position several weeks ago to favor more international stocks. “It’s impossible to commit capital to an economy that is unstable and unknowable because of policy structure.”

https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/dow-jones-stocks-worst-april-1932-74fe82ac?mod=hp_lead_pos1

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Because of Trump’s idiocy, we are no longer taking about recession but depression.

As most of us know who are not in the MAGA cult, Trump is stupendously inept and incompetent. The Trump Regime has caused chaos in this nation and around the world. Since Trump’s election our standing around the world has all but disintegrated.

It is time the nation realizes, as the markets increasingly realize, that Trump is an irrational actor.

The warning signs are everywhere. A stock market in free fall and a bond market on the verge of collapse.

Even the WSJ acknowledges this reality.

Take a Xanax

 

[SweetTea]

You cannot prove that, and we all know it.

There is ample evidence that the US has more money due to tariffs. I mean, obviously they are. Where else would the money be going? This money can eventually be used to pay down debt or to give us further tax breaks. Meanwhile, Democrats want us to continue to give that money to other countries to help their bottom line.

And no, not all the tariffs will be passed down to the consumer mainly because of the bargaining power of the US consumer. We are in a unique position relative to the rest of the world because of that power. Foreign manufacturers and importers will eat much of the tariffs because they need the US consumer to continue purchasing in large quantities. In business, you would be amazed at what companies will do to satisfy their largest customer.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

government records prove it, the CBO proves it, even CNN acknowledged it. but you are free to remain partisanly ignorant if you choose.

No, it does not. You say it does, but your word is not proof, not valid, not honest.

Post proof.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

There is ample evidence that the US has more money due to tariffs. I mean, obviously they are. Where else would the money be going? This money can eventually be used to pay down debt or to give us further tax breaks. Meanwhile, Democrats want us to continue to give that money to other countries to help their bottom line.

And no, not all the tariffs will be passed down to the consumer mainly because of the bargaining power of the US consumer. We are in a unique position relative to the rest of the world because of that power. Foreign manufacturers and importers will eat much of the tariffs because they need the US consumer to continue purchasing in large quantities. In business, you would be amazed at what companies will do to satisfy their largest customer.

The bargain power of the consumers?

We are in no unique position.

What a stupid, stupid assumption.

We will pay the up cost of tariffs.

 

[SweetTea]

The bargain power of the consumers?

We are in no unique position.

What a stupid, stupid assumption.

We will pay the up cost of tariffs.

Yes, we are most certainly in a unique position. You are letting the indoctrination of "US bad" override any common sense. The US consumer is the most powerful in the world. We spend ALOT more money per capita than any other. That makes us unique, no matter how you spin it.

You don't have a clue what you are talking about, but then again, you continue to follow the opinion left-wing "experts" who have been wrong more often than not.

 

[SweetTea]

No, it does not. You say it does, but your word is not proof, not valid, not honest.

Post proof.

Where do you think the tariff money is going?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Yes, we are most certainly in a unique position. You are letting the indoctrination of "US bad" override any common sense. The US consumer is the most powerful in the world. We spend ALOT more money per capita than any other. That makes us unique, no matter how you spin it.

You don't have a clue what you are talking about, but then again, you continue to follow the opinion left-wing "experts" who have been wrong more often than not.

You are letting brain rot set in.

You have no one to "bargain" for the American consumer.

This is an economic issue, neither left nor right, and you know nothing about the idea.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Where do you think the tariff money is going?

So you have no idea, no proof.

No, it does not. You say it does, but your word is not proof, not valid, not honest.

Post proof.

Sweet Tea: Where do you think the tariff money is going?

 

[Redfish]

There is ample evidence that the US has more money due to tariffs. I mean, obviously they are. Where else would the money be going? This money can eventually be used to pay down debt or to give us further tax breaks. Meanwhile, Democrats want us to continue to give that money to other countries to help their bottom line.

And no, not all the tariffs will be passed down to the consumer mainly because of the bargaining power of the US consumer. We are in a unique position relative to the rest of the world because of that power. Foreign manufacturers and importers will eat much of the tariffs because they need the US consumer to continue purchasing in large quantities. In business, you would be amazed at what companies will do to satisfy their largest customer.

there are no tariffs on US produced products. yes, if a US manufacturer uses foreign parts the foreign parts bear tariffs, so buy American, that is the whole point.

 

[Redfish]

No, it does not. You say it does, but your word is not proof, not valid, not honest.

Post proof.

the proof is easy to find, but you won't understand it if I posted it.

 

[Cellblock2429]

You cannot prove that, and we all know it.

/----/ You could find out for yourself, but you're afraid it will fly in the face of your bias. So, you stonewall rather than admit you are wrong.

Congressional Budget Office
https://www.cbo.gov › publication

An Update About CBO's Projections of the Budgetary Effects of …​

4 days ago · As tariffs changed frequently throughout 2025, CBO has regularly updated the Congress about projected tariff revenues; this blog post is the latest in that series.

• Budgetary and Economic Effects of Increases in Tariffs Impleme…​

• In CBO’s assessment, the changes in tariffs will reduce the size of the U.S. economy—in part because of tariffs imposed by other countries in response to the increases in U.S. tariffs. After accounting for that change in the size of the economy, CBO estimates that the changes in tariffs will reduce total federal deficits by $2.8 trillion.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

there are no tariffs on US produced products. yes, if a US manufacturer uses foreign parts the foreign parts bear tariffs, so buy American, that is the whole point.

Pay more is what you are saying ... not for the good of America ... but to save the business the extra cost.

That's inflation, bunny, and it is going to cost you as well as everyone.

It does not affect me in the sense that it deprives me of anything I want, but it will 95% of America.

They will let Trump know how they feel about that.

 

[Concerned American]

the proof is easy to find, but you won't understand it if I Dposted it.

Donkey is incapable of research. He never posts links or substantiation, just nonsense, insults and ignorance.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The Trump rout is taking on historic dimensions.

As of yesterday, my 401k is up 6.75% YTD,
The DJIA is up 7.14% as of today.
Nice rout.

 

[Dekster]

As of yesterday, my 401k is up 6.75% YTD,
The DJIA is up 7.14% as of today.
Nice rout.

My YTD is 13.98%. Might want to look into other funds

 

[SweetTea]

Pay more is what you are saying ... not for the good of America ... but to save the business the extra cost.

That's inflation, bunny, and it is going to cost you as well as everyone.

It does not affect me in the sense that it deprives me of anything I want, but it will 95% of America.

They will let Trump know how they feel about that.

You know rich Democrats were the first to complain when Trump capped the SALT deduction. I find it hard to believe that many rich Democrats are willing to actually put their money where their mouth is. It just makes them look good at parties with their liberal buddies. I am wealthy by all accounts, but when I wasn't, I still didn't believe the wealthy owed me a thing, including paying more taxes.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Donkey is incapable of research. He never posts links or substantiation, just nonsense, insults and ignorance.

And you continue to lie.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Rich democrats will pay the tariff national sales tax just like everyone else.

They are willing to exchange that for a higher income tax. Why won't the rich GOP?

 

[Concerned American]

And you continue to lie.

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