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Business bailouts aren't socialism. Nationalizing industries is socialism.Well that the US is largely Socialist she would be right that Puerto Rico being a part of the US would be also.
When they say REALLY IDIOTIC garbage like this.....is there really any room for discussion ?
Again, unable to dispute. Where in capitalism do we find the government bailing out business? We already have programs that cover a large portion of people's health care. Universal health care would only expand on that.
We already have public education. Expanding that to higher education would only expand on that.
SHould I continue?
Business bail outs are not capitalism. It is very counter to capitalism.
Bail outs are taking from one to give to another. Is that not what the capitalists claim to be against?
Bail outs are NOT Socialism. Sweet Jesus !!!!
Business bailouts aren't socialism. Social safety nets aren't socialism. You could argue that public education is socialistic, but as long as private educators are legally allowed to operate, it's still not socialism. Nationalizing industries is socialism.Well that the US is largely Socialist she would be right that Puerto Rico being a part of the US would be also.
When they say REALLY IDIOTIC garbage like this.....is there really any room for discussion ?
Again, unable to dispute. Where in capitalism do we find the government bailing out business? We already have programs that cover a large portion of people's health care. Universal health care would only expand on that.
We already have public education. Expanding that to higher education would only expand on that.
SHould I continue?
When a politician wants to "bail out" the poor it's call socialism. If we can agree that it is not, great.
Business bail outs are NOT capitalism though in any form.
Yeah, government buying stakes in corporations definitely starts to bleed over in that direction, IMO. However, when you start to look into failed socialist systems, mainstream leftist academics are only too quick to point out that they aren't examples of true socialism. Why? Because, for all of the nationalizing of production that these nations DO engage in, they still allow some level of private ownership in their economies. Apparently, this lack of purity, even in nations that HAVE put their primary cash-cow industries entirely under government edict, disqualifies those nations from wearing the mantle.Oh, it is?Well that the US is largely Socialist she would be right that Puerto Rico being a part of the US would be also.
What industries in the US are under national management and owned collectively by "the people"?
I never argued it was fully socialist but Trump did argue to do just this when he demanded that the government get a piece of Tik Tok.
The government did do this with GM for awhile.
Remind me which industries the US government has taken over and now controls the means and distribution of its products goods and services.Well that the US is largely Socialist she would be right that Puerto Rico being a part of the US would be also.
Yeah, government buying stakes in corporations definitely starts to bleed over in that direction, IMO. However, when you start to look into failed socialist systems, mainstream leftist academics are only too quick to point out that they aren't examples of true socialism. Why? Because, for all of the nationalizing of production that these nations DO engage in, they still allow some level of private ownership in their economies. Apparently, this lack of purity, even in nations that HAVE put their primary cash-cow industries entirely under government edict, disqualifies those nations from wearing the mantle.Oh, it is?Well that the US is largely Socialist she would be right that Puerto Rico being a part of the US would be also.
What industries in the US are under national management and owned collectively by "the people"?
I never argued it was fully socialist but Trump did argue to do just this when he demanded that the government get a piece of Tik Tok.
The government did do this with GM for awhile.
By this metric, the US wouldn't even be CLOSE to socialism even it bought 100 percent stake in GM AND TikTok. First, they'd have to do the same to Ford, Fiat, Tesla, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube. . . you get the idea.
Remind me which industries the US government has taken over and now controls the means and distribution of its products goods and services.Well that the US is largely Socialist she would be right that Puerto Rico being a part of the US would be also.
TV pundits call that socialism, just like Rush Limbaugh calls leftists liberals like we're still having the same conversations we were in the '90's. Personally, I'm a firm believer in maintaining the precise definitions of our words and terms. Tools should be kept clean and optimally functional.Business bailouts aren't socialism. Social safety nets aren't socialism. You could argue that public education is socialistic, but as long as private educators are legally allowed to operate, it's still not socialism. Nationalizing industries is socialism.Well that the US is largely Socialist she would be right that Puerto Rico being a part of the US would be also.
When they say REALLY IDIOTIC garbage like this.....is there really any room for discussion ?
Again, unable to dispute. Where in capitalism do we find the government bailing out business? We already have programs that cover a large portion of people's health care. Universal health care would only expand on that.
We already have public education. Expanding that to higher education would only expand on that.
SHould I continue?
When a politician wants to "bail out" the poor it's call socialism. If we can agree that it is not, great.
Business bail outs are NOT capitalism though in any form.
Puerto Rico is as close to a socialist "State" as we have in the US, Biff...so pointing out how badly that has worked FOR Puerto Rico is a lesson she's sharing with the rest of the country!
Kimberly Guilfoyle says she’s a 1st generation American during RNC speech
In her Republican National Convention speech, Kimberly Guilfoyle described herself as a first-generation American, citing her mother's Puerto Rican roots.www.click2houston.com
"Kimberly Guilfoyle describes herself as a first-generation American, but also notes that her mother is a special education teacher from Aguadilla, Puerto Rico. Guilfoyle, a Trump campaign adviser and the girlfriend of Donald Trump Jr., cited her family history on Monday to make the case that she knows how dangerous a socialist agenda would be for the nation."
Is the Trump campaign hoping that their voters are too stupid to know that someone coming to the mainland from Puerto Rico isn't an immigrant?? Are they hoping their voters don't know that residents of Puerto Rico have been US citizens since the early 1900's??
And what does being half Puerto Rican have to do with knowing about socialism?? Does the campaign also hope their voters think Puerto Rico is a socialist country?? On a lighter note, most Trump voters probably had no idea that Kimmers is Puerto Rican to begin with -- since she didn't say shit about it during Hurricane Maria....
In all fairness, Guilfoyle's been a prosecutor, an assistant DA, a Victoria's Secret model and a Fox News pundit. She also apparently graduated at the top of her class at UC Davis. That chick isn't a waste-o by any stretch of the imagination.I don’t really care what someone who’s idea of employment is sponging off of donations from Trump’s supporters given her only qualification is that she’s dating his nearly illiterate son.
TV pundits call that socialism, just like Rush Limbaugh calls leftists liberals like we're still having the same conversations we were in the '90's. Personally, I'm a firm believer in maintaining the precise definitions of our words and terms. Tools should be kept clean and optimally functional.Business bailouts aren't socialism. Social safety nets aren't socialism. You could argue that public education is socialistic, but as long as private educators are legally allowed to operate, it's still not socialism. Nationalizing industries is socialism.Well that the US is largely Socialist she would be right that Puerto Rico being a part of the US would be also.
When they say REALLY IDIOTIC garbage like this.....is there really any room for discussion ?
Again, unable to dispute. Where in capitalism do we find the government bailing out business? We already have programs that cover a large portion of people's health care. Universal health care would only expand on that.
We already have public education. Expanding that to higher education would only expand on that.
SHould I continue?
When a politician wants to "bail out" the poor it's call socialism. If we can agree that it is not, great.
Business bail outs are NOT capitalism though in any form.
Business bail outs don't negate capitalism. Capitalism is just a derogatory term that Marxists came up with in the 20th century to describe economies of private ownership.
Remind me which industries the US government has taken over and now controls the means and distribution of its products goods and services.Well that the US is largely Socialist she would be right that Puerto Rico being a part of the US would be also.
There is very little that is capitalistic in what the Fed is doing to artificially prop up the economy. You can call that whatever you wish but it is not capitalism.
true socialism
Socialism was coined by Henri de Saint-Simon, one of the founders of what would later be labelled utopian socialism. Simon contrasted it to the liberal doctrine of individualism that emphasized the moral worth of the individual whilst stressing that people act or should act as if they are in isolation from one another. The original utopian socialists condemned this doctrine of individualism for failing to address social concerns during the Industrial Revolution, including poverty, oppression and vast inequalities in wealth. They viewed their society as harming community life by basing society on competition. They presented socialism as an alternative to liberal individualism based on the shared ownership of resources. Saint-Simon proposed economic planning, scientific administration and the application of scientific understanding to the organisation of society.
Remind me which industries the US government has taken over and now controls the means and distribution of its products goods and services.Well that the US is largely Socialist she would be right that Puerto Rico being a part of the US would be also.
There is very little that is capitalistic in what the Fed is doing to artificially prop up the economy. You can call that whatever you wish but it is not capitalism.
YES IT IS.
The USA does not have a PURE capitalist system. it is mixed.
People like you need to be sent to Venezuela for a few years. You'd come back vomiting at the word "Socialism"
Sanders calls HIMSELF a socialist. But yeah, if you're making the point that all sorts of people shit all over the proper usage of that term, I won't disagree. However, I will disagree with you conflating a word's common usage with "reality". Commonly held misconceptions do not reality make.TV pundits call that socialism, just like Rush Limbaugh calls leftists liberals like we're still having the same conversations we were in the '90's. Personally, I'm a firm believer in maintaining the precise definitions of our words and terms. Tools should be kept clean and optimally functional.Business bailouts aren't socialism. Social safety nets aren't socialism. You could argue that public education is socialistic, but as long as private educators are legally allowed to operate, it's still not socialism. Nationalizing industries is socialism.Well that the US is largely Socialist she would be right that Puerto Rico being a part of the US would be also.
When they say REALLY IDIOTIC garbage like this.....is there really any room for discussion ?
Again, unable to dispute. Where in capitalism do we find the government bailing out business? We already have programs that cover a large portion of people's health care. Universal health care would only expand on that.
We already have public education. Expanding that to higher education would only expand on that.
SHould I continue?
When a politician wants to "bail out" the poor it's call socialism. If we can agree that it is not, great.
Business bail outs are NOT capitalism though in any form.
That's all well and fine but classroom ideas rarely match up to reality. It wasn't just TV pundits calling Sanders a Socialist for arguing for safety nets for the poor. It was many doing that.
Business bail outs don't negate capitalism. Capitalism is just a derogatory term that Marxists came up with in the 20th century to describe economies of private ownership.
It may not "negate" capitalism but it is NOT capitalism.
Sanders calls HIMSELF a socialist.TV pundits call that socialism, just like Rush Limbaugh calls leftists liberals like we're still having the same conversations we were in the '90's. Personally, I'm a firm believer in maintaining the precise definitions of our words and terms. Tools should be kept clean and optimally functional.Business bailouts aren't socialism. Social safety nets aren't socialism. You could argue that public education is socialistic, but as long as private educators are legally allowed to operate, it's still not socialism. Nationalizing industries is socialism.Well that the US is largely Socialist she would be right that Puerto Rico being a part of the US would be also.
When they say REALLY IDIOTIC garbage like this.....is there really any room for discussion ?
Again, unable to dispute. Where in capitalism do we find the government bailing out business? We already have programs that cover a large portion of people's health care. Universal health care would only expand on that.
We already have public education. Expanding that to higher education would only expand on that.
SHould I continue?
When a politician wants to "bail out" the poor it's call socialism. If we can agree that it is not, great.
Business bail outs are NOT capitalism though in any form.
That's all well and fine but classroom ideas rarely match up to reality. It wasn't just TV pundits calling Sanders a Socialist for arguing for safety nets for the poor. It was many doing that.
Business bail outs don't negate capitalism. Capitalism is just a derogatory term that Marxists came up with in the 20th century to describe economies of private ownership.
It may not "negate" capitalism but it is NOT capitalism.
But yeah, if you're making the point that all sorts of people shit all over the proper usage of that term, I won't disagree. However, I will disagree with you conflating a word's common usage with "reality". The commonly held misconceptions of ignoramuses and simpletons does not reality make.
I say it doesn't negate capitalism because a system that bails out businesses, impoverished individuals, or anything in between can still be called capitalism. It just depends on whether or not their economy is privately owned. In the same way that taxing citizens to provide services doesn't qualify a nation as socialist, it also doesn't disqualify them from being capitalist.
Out of curiosity, are you implying that Venezuela's economic woes are due to the fact that they didn't go socialist enough?Remind me which industries the US government has taken over and now controls the means and distribution of its products goods and services.Well that the US is largely Socialist she would be right that Puerto Rico being a part of the US would be also.
There is very little that is capitalistic in what the Fed is doing to artificially prop up the economy. You can call that whatever you wish but it is not capitalism.
YES IT IS.
The USA does not have a PURE capitalist system. it is mixed.
People like you need to be sent to Venezuela for a few years. You'd come back vomiting at the word "Socialism"
As we both have already agreed, we have aspects of Socialism already. Without it we would be Venezuela.
Out of curiosity, are you implying that Venezuela's economic woes are due to the fact that they didn't go socialist enough?Remind me which industries the US government has taken over and now controls the means and distribution of its products goods and services.Well that the US is largely Socialist she would be right that Puerto Rico being a part of the US would be also.
There is very little that is capitalistic in what the Fed is doing to artificially prop up the economy. You can call that whatever you wish but it is not capitalism.
YES IT IS.
The USA does not have a PURE capitalist system. it is mixed.
People like you need to be sent to Venezuela for a few years. You'd come back vomiting at the word "Socialism"
As we both have already agreed, we have aspects of Socialism already. Without it we would be Venezuela.
You have people now addicted to those policies. Playing the game with the system. For ll the money spent, poverty should be lower. Really!Well, considering you dic suckers claim she is the mastermind behind the Biden campaign and will turn the whole country into communist-socialist-ville -- I would say you folks believe she is very much an expert on Socialism....So how does having a mother from Puerto Rico qualify you to be an expert on socialism??There's only ONE important takeaway here.......
And that is that Socialism is in fact a treacherous and dangerous ideology.
Everything else is fluff and bullshit
And how is Kimmers a 1st generation American??
How does being Ocasio Cortez qualify her to be an expert on Socialism (or anything). Yet you likely support her.
I could all but guarantee Kimberly knows a lot more about socialism than Cortez.
I don't give a fuck what "generation" she is. I care that she knows her shit......unlike the Left.
Maybe next time you fragile minded cucks shouldn't call everything socialist because people find those policies more popular than the vomit your side comes up with
