Does a criminal indictment of a former US President reek of a third world country?

[otto105]

Go tell scumbag Garland.

We either have equal law, or no law at all.

If you want open season , just say so. It'll be YOUR decision. I'm fine with either choice, but whichever way you choose, I'll hold you to it.

kiss that ring sycophant.

 

[Slade3200]

Just remember this, dumbass....if you go after a king you had better get him. Because if you don't, YOU die.

Hahahahahaha. Now Trump is King-like?! Wow you’re off your rocker

 

[westwall]

You talk tough. That's all. Nothing but talk. Sore fn loser.

No, it is called history. You had better read some, dumbass.

 

[westwall]

Hahahahahaha. Now Trump is King-like?! Wow you’re off your rocker

Good gosh you ARE a fucking retard. It is a very famous quote.

Unless you are an uneducated dolt.

Hello dolt.

 

[westwall]

My question was not trolling… your response was

Yeah, you ARE a troll.

 

[okfine]

My question was not trolling… your response was

He is the epitome of troll

 

[Slade3200]

Good gosh you ARE a fucking retard. It is a very famous quote.

Unless you are an uneducated dolt.

Hello dolt.

Right and you’re using that quote in reference to Trump. WTF is wrong with you?

 

[Slade3200]

Yeah, you ARE a troll.

Ok so the point you’re making is that you weren’t saying that my question was trolling you were just trying to call me a troll??

That pretty much fits the definition of trolling does it not?

 

[candycorn]

Oh I dunno..,

Is France a third world country?

France: In 2018, former French President Nicolas Sarkozy was indicted on charges of corruption and influence peddling. He is accused of accepting millions of euros in illegal campaign funding from the regime of late Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi.

Is Italy a third world country?

Italy: In 2011, Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi was indicted on charges of paying an underage prostitute and abuse of power. He was ultimately acquitted of the charges, but he has faced several other legal challenges throughout his career.

Is Israel a third world country?

Israel: In 2019, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was indicted on charges of bribery, fraud, and breach of trust. He is accused of accepting gifts from wealthy businessmen and offering political favors in exchange for positive news coverage.

Is Iceland a third world country?

Iceland: In 2016, Iceland's Prime Minister Sigmundur Davíð Gunnlaugsson resigned after the Panama Papers revealed that he and his wife had set up a company in an offshore tax haven. He was later indicted for tax evasion.

Is Spain a third world country?

Spain: In 2018, Spain's Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy was ousted in a no-confidence vote following a corruption scandal involving his Popular Party. Several members of his party were indicted on charges of embezzlement, fraud, and money laundering.

In other words, indicting a Prime Minister or President among the first world countries, AKA 'western developed nations',of which the US is a member, is NOT unusual.

You see, these countries believe in the concept that 'no one is above the law' and if we do not, then rule of law is dead, and if rule of law is dead, then we become a third world country. We only become a third world country when the rule of law fails, and the rule of men supplants it.

Do the crime, do the time. Goes for everyone, including the president.

I will accept the premise that if we are going to indict a President, it shouldn't be for a trivial misdemeanor. I want to see some felonies, the more the merrier, in the indictment, and NOT made up or trumped up charges, though I'm sure many on the right will characterize it that way.

What you who will make a political characterization do not realize is that no prosecutor, when it comes to the former President, is going to indict a US president without above and beyond compelling evidence. The bar shouldn't be any higher than any one else, but, prosecutors are human.

Prosecutors are human. Speaking of which, Imagine you are a prosecutor, state or federal, and you have facts which would conceivably allow you to indict the former President Of the United States, and not just any former president, a very rich former president whose base historically has threatened persons acting in ways not favorable to Trump.

You will be engaging in what is known as a 'maiden voyage prosecution', which is one that has never been done, i.e., the indictment of a former President.

And you know your case, though it might be good, almost always have a few slight defects. Few cases are slam dunk, even obvious ones. Those little defects in your presentation will be exploited, scrutinized, cross-examined, not to mention severely blown out of proportion by Trump in the public sphere, all without regard to costs of defense, all designed to mobilize his base against you. .

And you'd better not lose the case. The old proverb, 'if you shoot an arrow at the king, you'd better not miss' comes to mind. There can be no stakes higher for a prosecutor than to indict a President or a former President.

You will be thrown onto the world stage, you will be making history in the grandest of terms, and your every move, comment, anything and everything will be subject to world scrutiny, reporters will follow you everywhere, as Trump loving protesters will never cease harassing you, threatening your life and that of your loved ones, during the entire proceeding. Trump will make sly comments which will be tacit approval of such acts, such as 'bad things will happen if I am indicted' (while never condoning or being specific as to what those things are, in mob-esque fashion).

Trump warns of ‘problems’ like ‘we’ve never seen’ if he’s indicted. Well, he's been indicted, and we shall see.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/...like-weve-never-seen-if-hes-indicted-00056911

And Trump will be smearing you all day every day as long as you pursue the case against him, and it will not stop, the harassments by his base will be like a fire hose spraying poison into your house with indefatigable force.

And, if you lose the case, hell hath no fury like a Donald Trump on the vengeance path, all directed towards you with the full weight of his base and his wealth..

And there you sit many on the right, thinking this is just some petty bureaucrat who thinks it would be cool to indict the Us President, that he's some fuddy duddy who didn't give it a second thought, thought it would be cool to get 15 minutes of fame.

Nah, if you can grasp the circumstance facing Alan Bragg, Fani Willis, and Jack Smith/Merrick Garland, you'll understand that that view is cynical and simplistic.

No.

Its most remarkable that he's only been indicted once. The blob is filthy and hopefully this indictment will embolden all of the other investigations to move forward and finally file suit against this loser for his many abuses of power.

 

[westwall]

Right and you’re using that quote in reference to Trump. WTF is wrong with you?

No, dumbfuck, I am using it in regard to BRAGG!

Try and keep up, moron.

 

[BothWings]

Oh I dunno..,

Is France a third world country?

France: In 2018, former French President Nicolas Sarkozy was indicted on charges of corruption and influence peddling. He is accused of accepting millions of euros in illegal campaign funding from the regime of late Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi.

Is Italy a third world country?

Italy: In 2011, Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi was indicted on charges of paying an underage prostitute and abuse of power. He was ultimately acquitted of the charges, but he has faced several other legal challenges throughout his career.

Is Israel a third world country?

Israel: In 2019, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was indicted on charges of bribery, fraud, and breach of trust. He is accused of accepting gifts from wealthy businessmen and offering political favors in exchange for positive news coverage.

Is Iceland a third world country?

Iceland: In 2016, Iceland's Prime Minister Sigmundur Davíð Gunnlaugsson resigned after the Panama Papers revealed that he and his wife had set up a company in an offshore tax haven. He was later indicted for tax evasion.

Is Spain a third world country?

Spain: In 2018, Spain's Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy was ousted in a no-confidence vote following a corruption scandal involving his Popular Party. Several members of his party were indicted on charges of embezzlement, fraud, and money laundering.

In other words, indicting a Prime Minister or President among the first world countries, AKA 'western developed nations',of which the US is a member, is NOT unusual.

You see, these countries believe in the concept that 'no one is above the law' and if we do not, then rule of law is dead, and if rule of law is dead, then we become a third world country. We only become a third world country when the rule of law fails, and the rule of men supplants it.

Do the crime, do the time. Goes for everyone, including the president.

I will accept the premise that if we are going to indict a President, it shouldn't be for a trivial misdemeanor. I want to see some felonies, the more the merrier, in the indictment, and NOT made up or trumped up charges, though I'm sure many on the right will characterize it that way.

What you who will make a political characterization do not realize is that no prosecutor, when it comes to the former President, is going to indict a US president without above and beyond compelling evidence. The bar shouldn't be any higher than any one else, but, prosecutors are human.

Prosecutors are human. Speaking of which, Imagine you are a prosecutor, state or federal, and you have facts which would conceivably allow you to indict the former President Of the United States, and not just any former president, a very rich former president whose base historically has threatened persons acting in ways not favorable to Trump.

You will be engaging in what is known as a 'maiden voyage prosecution', which is one that has never been done, i.e., the indictment of a former President.

And you know your case, though it might be good, almost always have a few slight defects. Few cases are slam dunk, even obvious ones. Those little defects in your presentation will be exploited, scrutinized, cross-examined, not to mention severely blown out of proportion by Trump in the public sphere, all without regard to costs of defense, all designed to mobilize his base against you. .

And you'd better not lose the case. The old proverb, 'if you shoot an arrow at the king, you'd better not miss' comes to mind. There can be no stakes higher for a prosecutor than to indict a President or a former President.

You will be thrown onto the world stage, you will be making history in the grandest of terms, and your every move, comment, anything and everything will be subject to world scrutiny, reporters will follow you everywhere, as Trump loving protesters will never cease harassing you, threatening your life and that of your loved ones, during the entire proceeding. Trump will make sly comments which will be tacit approval of such acts, such as 'bad things will happen if I am indicted' (while never condoning or being specific as to what those things are, in mob-esque fashion).

Trump warns of ‘problems’ like ‘we’ve never seen’ if he’s indicted. Well, he's been indicted, and we shall see.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/...like-weve-never-seen-if-hes-indicted-00056911

And Trump will be smearing you all day every day as long as you pursue the case against him, and it will not stop, the harassments by his base will be like a fire hose spraying poison into your house with indefatigable force.

And, if you lose the case, hell hath no fury like a Donald Trump on the vengeance path, all directed towards you with the full weight of his base and his wealth..

And there you sit many on the right, thinking this is just some petty bureaucrat who thinks it would be cool to indict the Us President, that he's some fuddy duddy who didn't give it a second thought, thought it would be cool to get 15 minutes of fame.

Nah, if you can grasp the circumstance facing Alan Bragg, Fani Willis, and Jack Smith/Merrick Garland, you'll understand that that view is cynical and simplistic.

I think he meant to say "manifesting socialist regime". Then France and the U.S. could be more accurately compared.

 

[Slade3200]

No, dumbfuck, I am using it in regard to BRAGG!

Try and keep up, moron.

Bragg is going after Trump… idiot

 

[White 6]

Just remember this, dumbass....if you go after a king you had better get him. Because if you don't, YOU die.

I had heard something about him wanting violence and that people might die, but are you saying he is finally going to get around to shooting people onf 5th avenue?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

We're a third world nation in decline.

A fractured people with China and Russia watching and laughing at the dying Tiger that can't even command the loyalty of its own people.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I had heard something about him wanting violence and that people might die, but are you saying he is finally going to get around to shooting people onf 5th avenue?

Democrats made it up. Maybe they are prepared to run with it.

 

[Rumpole]

I guess he hasn't figured out that walls of text don't imply great intellect. They actually PROVE the opposite.

Intelligent people can convey ideas, accurately, with few words.

Yes, tell that to Mssrs Madison and Hamilton, who wrote the Federalist papers

Tell that to Henry Kissinger, whose eloquent treatise entitled 'White House Years' extended over 1000 pages.

Now, you might argue that I'm no Madison, Hamilton, or Kissinger, which I do not claim to be, but I could name someone you've never heard of, but that would hardly make for an impactful point.

On second thought, tell that to the one of the more significant framers of the Constitution, who is probably someone you've never heard of-- Gouverneur Morris, not to mention the four Gospels of the Bible, whose authors are unknown.

I could go on to destroy your logic, but why bother? You'll just spew another easily debunkable point.

Well, some wise folks do not live by pithy aphorisms, we say what needs to be said, and those with attention deficits be damned.

IF all the knowledge in the world could be reduced as you perscribed, we would know very little. Life is so diverse, so infinite, so robust, so magnificent, and you are claiming the story can be told in a few lines. My, what an anemic view.

But, for those weaned on social media, short sound bites, snarky one liners, those who are more concerned with likes than stimulation, etc., I can see how elusive for such persons the message herein will be.

 

[westwall]

I had heard something about him wanting violence and that people might die, but are you saying he is finally going to get around to shooting people onf 5th avenue?

Not in the slightest. But, when this blows up in Braggs face, don't be surprised when your fascists start riots in anger that they couldn't get Trump yet again.

You people truly are idiots. You never read your history books so you are always dumbfounded when you get your asses handed to you.

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

Oh I dunno..,

Is France a third world country?

France: In 2018, former French President Nicolas Sarkozy was indicted on charges of corruption and influence peddling. He is accused of accepting millions of euros in illegal campaign funding from the regime of late Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi.

Is Italy a third world country?

Italy: In 2011, Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi was indicted on charges of paying an underage prostitute and abuse of power. He was ultimately acquitted of the charges, but he has faced several other legal challenges throughout his career.

Is Israel a third world country?

Israel: In 2019, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was indicted on charges of bribery, fraud, and breach of trust. He is accused of accepting gifts from wealthy businessmen and offering political favors in exchange for positive news coverage.

Is Iceland a third world country?

Iceland: In 2016, Iceland's Prime Minister Sigmundur Davíð Gunnlaugsson resigned after the Panama Papers revealed that he and his wife had set up a company in an offshore tax haven. He was later indicted for tax evasion.

Is Spain a third world country?

Spain: In 2018, Spain's Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy was ousted in a no-confidence vote following a corruption scandal involving his Popular Party. Several members of his party were indicted on charges of embezzlement, fraud, and money laundering.

In other words, indicting a Prime Minister or President among the first world countries, AKA 'western developed nations',of which the US is a member, is NOT unusual.

You see, these countries believe in the concept that 'no one is above the law' and if we do not, then rule of law is dead, and if rule of law is dead, then we become a third world country. We only become a third world country when the rule of law fails, and the rule of men supplants it.

Do the crime, do the time. Goes for everyone, including the president.

I will accept the premise that if we are going to indict a President, it shouldn't be for a trivial misdemeanor. I want to see some felonies, the more the merrier, in the indictment, and NOT made up or trumped up charges, though I'm sure many on the right will characterize it that way.

What you who will make a political characterization do not realize is that no prosecutor, when it comes to the former President, is going to indict a US president without above and beyond compelling evidence. The bar shouldn't be any higher than any one else, but, prosecutors are human.

Prosecutors are human. Speaking of which, Imagine you are a prosecutor, state or federal, and you have facts which would conceivably allow you to indict the former President Of the United States, and not just any former president, a very rich former president whose base historically has threatened persons acting in ways not favorable to Trump.

You will be engaging in what is known as a 'maiden voyage prosecution', which is one that has never been done, i.e., the indictment of a former President.

And you know your case, though it might be good, almost always have a few slight defects. Few cases are slam dunk, even obvious ones. Those little defects in your presentation will be exploited, scrutinized, cross-examined, not to mention severely blown out of proportion by Trump in the public sphere, all without regard to costs of defense, all designed to mobilize his base against you. .

And you'd better not lose the case. The old proverb, 'if you shoot an arrow at the king, you'd better not miss' comes to mind. There can be no stakes higher for a prosecutor than to indict a President or a former President.

You will be thrown onto the world stage, you will be making history in the grandest of terms, and your every move, comment, anything and everything will be subject to world scrutiny, reporters will follow you everywhere, as Trump loving protesters will never cease harassing you, threatening your life and that of your loved ones, during the entire proceeding. Trump will make sly comments which will be tacit approval of such acts, such as 'bad things will happen if I am indicted' (while never condoning or being specific as to what those things are, in mob-esque fashion).

Trump warns of ‘problems’ like ‘we’ve never seen’ if he’s indicted. Well, he's been indicted, and we shall see.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/...like-weve-never-seen-if-hes-indicted-00056911

And Trump will be smearing you all day every day as long as you pursue the case against him, and it will not stop, the harassments by his base will be like a fire hose spraying poison into your house with indefatigable force.

And, if you lose the case, hell hath no fury like a Donald Trump on the vengeance path, all directed towards you with the full weight of his base and his wealth..

And there you sit many on the right, thinking this is just some petty bureaucrat who thinks it would be cool to indict the Us President, that he's some fuddy duddy who didn't give it a second thought, thought it would be cool to get 15 minutes of fame.

Nah, if you can grasp the circumstance facing Alan Bragg, Fani Willis, and Jack Smith/Merrick Garland, you'll understand that that view is cynical and simplistic.

The Manhattan district attorney is an animal and a racist. He’s a disgrace to America he has no right to be in office he doesn’t even deserve that job. He doesn’t deserve to be a street sweeper

That a black person is partially or mostly responsible for being the first person to charge a president with a crime is so despicable. Look at how horrible that will look in American history. You imagine if a white person charged Barack Obama with a crime. Why not right.

And those who support the charges against trump are the ugliest people in the world.

 

[westwall]

Yes, tell that to Mssrs Madison and Hamilton, who wrote the Federalist papers

Tell that to Henry Kissinger, whose eloquent treatise entitled 'White House Years' extended over 1000 pages.

Now, you might argue that I'm no Madison, Hamilton, or Kissinger, which I do not claim to be, but I could name someone you've never heard of, but that would hardly make for an impactful point.

On second thought, tell that to the one of the more significant framers of the Constitution, who is probably someone you've never heard of-- Gouverneur Morris, not to mention the four Gospels of the Bible, whose authors are unknown.

I could go on to destroy your logic, but why bother? You'll just spew another easily debunkable point.

Well, some wise folks do not live by pithy aphorisms, we say what needs to be said, and those with attention deficits be damned.

IF all the knowledge in the world could be reduced as you perscribed, we would know very little. Life is so diverse, so infinite, so robust, so magnificent, and you are claiming the story can be told in a few lines. My, what an anemic view.

You are a cut and paste expert for the most part. You had one post that I thought was your own work, but the rest of what you post was written by others, better.

 

[White 6]

Not in the slightest. But, when this blows up in Braggs face, don't be surprised when your fascists start riots in anger that they couldn't get Trump yet again.

You people truly are idiots. You never read your history books so you are always dumbfounded when you get your asses handed to you.

How you classify me in that group is beyond me. I did see where he called for protests when he was supposed be indicted, but his lawyers denied knowing anything about and indictment and Trumpers didn't sound too enthusiastic.