Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

[Coyote]

Why do you have such a problem with people doing business with like-minded people?

I forget the term for it, but some professions have a system of ethics that are above that and the medical profession is one of those. They can't simply decide not to treat black people, or not to treat homosexuals or not to treat Jews.

 

[WillowTree]

Why do you have such a problem with people doing business with like-minded people?

I forget the term for it, but some professions have a system of ethics that are above that and the medical profession is one of those. They can't simply decide not to treat black people, or not to treat homosexuals or not to treat Jews.

and where did this physician say any of that?? he said obama supporters. did he knot? and then he didn't refuse to treat them, he advised them that their new health care would start now,,didn't someone post here that a physician was going to a cash only basis,, so as to avoid dealing with insurance companies now run by big government? Can't fault them for that. And do pretend you weren't warned.

 

[Coyote]

Why do you have such a problem with people doing business with like-minded people?

I forget the term for it, but some professions have a system of ethics that are above that and the medical profession is one of those. They can't simply decide not to treat black people, or not to treat homosexuals or not to treat Jews.

and where did this physician say any of that?? he said obama supporters. did he knot? and then he didn't refuse to treat them, he advised them that their new health care would start now,,didn't someone post here that a physician was going to a cash only basis,, so as to avoid dealing with insurance companies now run by big government? Can't fault them for that. And do pretend you weren't warned.

He essentially told those who voted for Obama could seek health care elsewhere did he not?

Aside from that....most people don't realize that there has been an increasing trend, starting long before this bill, for doctors to go to a cash only basis to avoid the overhead costs and frustrations and limitations of having to accept INSURANCE - private insurance - not government.

 

[boedicca]

I forget the term for it, but some professions have a system of ethics that are above that and the medical profession is one of those. They can't simply decide not to treat black people, or not to treat homosexuals or not to treat Jews.

They have such strong ethics - but Obama justifies health care reform by claiming that they needlessly whack off people's feet to get $20,000.

Go figure.

 

[Ava]

MOUNT DORA — A doctor who considers the national health-care overhaul to be bad medicine for the country posted a sign on his office door telling patients who voted for President Barack Obama to seek care "elsewhere."

The sign reads: "If you voted for Obama … seek urologic care elsewhere. Changes to your healthcare begin right now, not in four years."



I love stories like this

Obama health care supporters: Florida doctor tells Obama health care supporters to go elsewhere - South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com

Changes in HIS health care began when the government took control. He has a right to be pissed.

 

[WillowTree]

I forget the term for it, but some professions have a system of ethics that are above that and the medical profession is one of those. They can't simply decide not to treat black people, or not to treat homosexuals or not to treat Jews.

and where did this physician say any of that?? he said obama supporters. did he knot? and then he didn't refuse to treat them, he advised them that their new health care would start now,,didn't someone post here that a physician was going to a cash only basis,, so as to avoid dealing with insurance companies now run by big government? Can't fault them for that. And do pretend you weren't warned.

He essentially told those who voted for Obama could seek health care elsewhere did he not?

Aside from that....most people don't realize that there has been an increasing trend, starting long before this bill, for doctors to go to a cash only basis to avoid the overhead costs and frustrations and limitations of having to accept INSURANCE - private insurance - not government.

which is what I've been saying all along. Hello, and now you are screaming about race,, hello

 

[Coyote]

I forget the term for it, but some professions have a system of ethics that are above that and the medical profession is one of those. They can't simply decide not to treat black people, or not to treat homosexuals or not to treat Jews.

They have such strong ethics - but Obama justifies health care reform by claiming that they needlessly whack off people's feet to get $20,000.

Go figure.

Oh? I seriously doubt that is the principle justification or even a minor justification for healthcare reform. Sounds like the typical rightwing talking points.

 

[boedicca]

Here you go, in The One's own words:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG56B2et4M8]Obama SPEAKS![/ame]


I didn't recall properly - he actually said $30,000 - $40,0000, not $20,000.

 

[Coyote]

Here you go, in The One's own words:

Obama SPEAKS!


I didn't recall properly - he actually said $30,000 - $40,0000, not $20,000.

Again, not his main justification for healthcare reform.

 

[boedicca]

He used this claim on his stump speech to scare people into supporting his government takeover agenda.

 

[MaggieMae]

We see a lot of specialists besides our family doctor. Here is how they stand.

Family Doctor: Has quit doing volunteer work at a free clinic, is now refusing any new Medicare/medicaid patients.

Endocrinologist: HE simply shakes his head and looks skyward.

Podiatrist: She actually used the words; "Stupid fuckers"

Dentist: "I'm trying to ignore Washington"

Hematologist: "I hope it's a joke"

Cardiologist: "They'll be after you next."

Not one who cares for this legislation. And the good Doctor is within his rights to turn down new patients. After all he's a busy man.

Money, honey, as I said. How many poor doctors do any of us know? How many even have incomes that would put them in middle- to upper-middle class neighborhoods? They all live in gated communities. I feel sorry for none of them. Poor, poor doctors being 'forced' to actually do their jobs on poor people. Waaaaaaaah!!!!!!!

 

[MaggieMae]

He sounds like a great doctor to go to.

At least you don't have to worry about sitting in a waiting room full of dummies.

I'm actually working on advocating this kind of behavior for all business just in a little different way.

Interviewing owners of businesses, starting with friends and members of "the club" to find out who is with us, then giving them a sign/logo to display.

Members are then encouraged to only patronize businesses with logos whenever possible.

Lists of those that don't merit a logo will be made available.

Good luck with that. My brother-in-law who used to own a car dealership had a big 11 X 14 photograph of George and Laura Bush peering over his desk, always has right-wing talk radio in the background, and he lost a customer because of it. The customer simply said "If you think its appropriate to display political propaganda, then I don't trust you not to have propagandized your sales pitch to me." Who knows how many other customers he lost but didn't have the balls to say why?

yep! obama showed those uppity Reppublican car dealership owners who was bozz didn't he?

Another repeat of another con myth, completely debunked as soon as it went viral. Gullible-itis has become a pandemic.

snopes.com: Steve Rattner - Car Czar

 

[MaggieMae]

Republican heroes. Soldiers that won't serve their country and doctors that won't serve the public.

Hear hear. And what about doctor-soldiers? Would this creep bend over a bleeding GI or Marine and ask if he voted for Obama before committing to saving his life?

Honestly, in 22 years I don't remember having actual Political discussions while on active duty. Closest thing we got to that was having a Voting Assistance Officer. And he/she only assited you in getting an absentee ballot.

I was only using that as an analogy to the absurdity of the situation. But that reminds me, God Bless those doctors who sacrifice the good life to become dedicated to the Veterans Administration and who earn on average $20K less per year.

 

[MaggieMae]

I forget the term for it, but some professions have a system of ethics that are above that and the medical profession is one of those. They can't simply decide not to treat black people, or not to treat homosexuals or not to treat Jews.

They have such strong ethics - but Obama justifies health care reform by claiming that they needlessly whack off people's feet to get $20,000.

Go figure.

There's plenty of background material suggesting that doctors routinely perform unnecessary hysterectomies and tonsillectomies, full hip replacements, and the like. Also, OBGYNs are performing far more cessarian sections for deliveries these days. It takes a lot less time than having to wait around for many hours for a baby to come out the old-fashioned way. After all, they could be playing golf!

 

[boedicca]

There's plenty of background material suggesting that doctors routinely perform unnecessary hysterectomies and tonsillectomies, full hip replacements, and the like. Also, OBGYNs are performing far more cessarian sections for deliveries these days. It takes a lot less time than having to wait around for many hours for a baby to come out the old-fashioned way. After all, they could be playing golf!

Oh really?

Then please provide that Plenty of Background Material.

 

[MaggieMae]

I forget the term for it, but some professions have a system of ethics that are above that and the medical profession is one of those. They can't simply decide not to treat black people, or not to treat homosexuals or not to treat Jews.

They have such strong ethics - but Obama justifies health care reform by claiming that they needlessly whack off people's feet to get $20,000.

Go figure.

I just Googled your accusation and found no other reference to Obama ever having made such an absurd statement. Congratulations, your comment is now officially in Google's files, since yours is the ONLY reference to it.

You can have your opinions, people, but please stop the outright lies. I expect that kind of idiotic remark from someone like Willow, but not someone who at least tries to convince everyone she has some credentialed smarts.

 

[boedicca]

I posted the Youtube clip in which you can hear him say it in his own words.

If a direct video quote isn't good enough for you, then so be it.

I checked Clusty and found quite a few links, so I can't help but wonder at how you use Google.

http://www.healthleadersmedia.com/c...steps-on-Foot-Amputation-Pay-to-Surgeons.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...oose_amputation_because_of_reimbursement.html

http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-docto...cause-surgeons-get-paid-more-than-physicians/

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2009/08/at-what-cost-cutting-off-a-leg/23197/



Now, please post your Plenty of Background Material that proves that doctors routinely perform unnecessary hysterectomies and tonsillectomies, full hip replacements, cesareans, and the like.

 

[Immanuel]

I forget the term for it, but some professions have a system of ethics that are above that and the medical profession is one of those. They can't simply decide not to treat black people, or not to treat homosexuals or not to treat Jews.

They have such strong ethics - but Obama justifies health care reform by claiming that they needlessly whack off people's feet to get $20,000.

Go figure.

I just Googled your accusation and found no other reference to Obama ever having made such an absurd statement. Congratulations, your comment is now officially in Google's files, since yours is the ONLY reference to it.

You can have your opinions, people, but please stop the outright lies. I expect that kind of idiotic remark from someone like Willow, but not someone who at least tries to convince everyone she has some credentialed smarts.

See post #108, if you have not already see it.

Immie

 

[MaggieMae]

Here you go, in The One's own words:

Obama SPEAKS!


I didn't recall properly - he actually said $30,000 - $40,0000, not $20,000.

"All I am saying is let's take the example of Diabetes.........Right now if a family care physician works with his patient to modify diet, etc they might get reimbursed a pittance, but if that same diabetic ends up getting his foot amputated that's 30,000-50,000 the surgeon is reimbursed. Why not make sure we are also reimbursing the care that prevents the amputation?"

Operative words, and of course he is right-on.

 

[MaggieMae]

There's plenty of background material suggesting that doctors routinely perform unnecessary hysterectomies and tonsillectomies, full hip replacements, and the like. Also, OBGYNs are performing far more cessarian sections for deliveries these days. It takes a lot less time than having to wait around for many hours for a baby to come out the old-fashioned way. After all, they could be playing golf!

Oh really?

Then please provide that Plenty of Background Material.

Take your pick. There are pages and pages relating incidents.
Doctors perform unnecessary surgery - Google Search