Do these Black democrat voters know the history of Planned Parenthood AND they are the largest users?

[ThisIsMe]

I don't care how they vote. Targeting black voters to disenfranchise them is racist, Moron.

Yeah, it’s bad, but it’s not racist…even the court opinion , which i quoted from your article, said that it wasn’t racially motivated but political.

It was based on voting patterns, not because they were black.

 

[Curried Goats]

Ok, so we’re parsing it out. So black Americans..how many is that? I don’t know the numbers of American born black people…let’s say…35 million?

No, we are not. You're just flailing now that you find it difficult to deny Black Americans were victims of injustice.

I mean, white people would certainly be involved in this, so they should be considered.

In what capacity?

The price tag is certainly not beyond the point. It’s extremely relevant..so, give me a number? How much cash payout should be given? We’re talking cash only here…not related to other economic help…just the cash portion.

Why is it relevant? Where Black Americans victims of government sponsored and supported injustice or not?

How much do you believe should be given to each black American?

I don't care, so long as it is as significant as the discrimination was.

 

[Curried Goats]

Yeah, it’s bad, but it’s not racist…

I'll stop you there. It is to me and around 90% of black voters.

 

[ThisIsMe]

No, we are not. You're just flailing now that you find it difficult to deny Black Americans were victims of injustice.

In what capacity?

Why is it relevant? Where Black Americans victims of government sponsored and supported injustice or not?

I don't care, so long as it is as significant as the discrimination was.

You're just flailing now that you find it difficult to deny Black Americans were victims of injustice.

I’ve never denied that. Show me where I have

In what capacity?

In the capacity that it will be their tax dollars paying for it.

Why is it relevant? Where Black Americans victims of government sponsored and supported injustice or not?

It’s relevant because depending on the number you choose, it could affect different things in different ways.

I don't care, so long as it is as significant as the discrimination was.

Surely you have to have a number. You’ve not thought about all of this and not come up with a figure. I mean, if you are talking about lost wages, lost generational wealth, among other things, the amount would have to be extraordinary, and that’s not even considering the other subsidies you are suggesting.

I’m not saying black folk weren’t wronged, I’m just trying to get a number out of you, as a start.

 

[ThisIsMe]

I'll stop you there. It is to me and around 90% of black voters.

That’s because you choose to look at it through scope of racism, all the time. In your eyes, anything wrong done to a black person is “racism”. You choose to do so because it’s a weapon that can satiate your hate.

The article explained it, the article you linked. Even the court explained it. You want to believe everything in the article except the part that doesn’t fit your narrative.

There wasn’t a racial component to it. They found that black people overwhelmingly voted democrat, and made their changes based on that information. You choose to see it as “the changed it because they were black”, but the courts found they did it because they vote democrat.

 

[Curried Goats]

I’ve never denied that. Show me where I have

Learn to read. I never said you denied anything. I said you're flailing now that you find it difficult to deny the injustice and it is difficult except for the most committed of cosplayers to deny the facts when they are laid out.

In the capacity that it will be their tax dollars paying for it.

And mine, and every other tax payer.

It’s relevant because depending on the number you choose, it could affect different things in different ways.

Such as?

Surely you have to have a number. You’ve not thought about all of this and not come up with a figure. I mean, if you are talking about lost wages, lost generational wealth, among other things, the amount would have to be extraordinary, and that’s not even considering the other subsidies you are suggesting.

I don't have a number. That's for smarter people than me to calculate.

I’m not saying black folk weren’t wronged, I’m just trying to get a number out of you, as a start.

Because you agree they are owed? That all I'm trying to get you to concede. Your quest for an actual number is your own.

 

[Curried Goats]

That’s because you choose to look at it through scope of racism, all the time.

We choose to look it from our perspective. Learn what subjectivism is, dumb ass.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Learn to read. I never said you denied anything. I said you're flailing now that you find it difficult to deny the injustice and it is difficult except for the most committed of cosplayers to deny the facts when they are laid out.

And mine, and every other tax payer.

Such as?

I don't have a number. That's for smarter people than me to calculate.

Because you agree they are owed? That all I'm trying to get you to concede. Your quest for an actual number is your own.

I never said you denied anything. I said you're flailing now that you find it difficult to deny the injustice

Ok, so I’m denying but not denying..anyway…

Such as?

Well, I’ll need a number before I get into that.

Because you agree they are owed? That all I'm trying to get you to concede.

The answer is complex, I do think black people were wronged, they were abused, and I think they deserve some sort of help, but like anything else, there is nuance to that. The answer is not always straight forward. This is why the dollar amount is important.

You say you don’t have a number…not even a ballpark figure? Less that a million? More than a million? I’m not believing you’ve contemplated all of this and have not formulated what you feel would be just.

 

[Curried Goats]

Ok, so I’m denying but not denying..anyway…

What I said you were doing is flailing. Flailing was the verb in my sentence you illiterate moron.

Well, I’ll need a number before I get into that.

I dont actually care if you cant explain or expand your own argument.

The answer is complex, I do think black people were wronged, they were abused, and I think they deserve some sort of help, but like anything else, there is nuance to that. The answer is not always straight forward. This is why the dollar amount is important.

The answer is complex? Its a yes or no? Were they victims of injustice? Are they owed. You're simply asking about the cost of doing the right thing as if to argue that the cost is outcome determantive on whether or not you do the right thing. Is that what you're arguing? Because I think we should do the right thing no matter the cost. The right thing being full compensation for the breadth of the injustice done to them.

You say you don’t have a number…not even a ballpark figure?

Yep.

Less that a million? More than a million?

A million what? In total? Per person? Seems more like you have a number mind.

I’m not believing you’ve contemplated all of this and have not formulated what you feel would be just.

I don't care what you imagine. Imagine away cosplayer.

 

[ThisIsMe]

What I said you were doing is flailing. Flailing was the verb in my sentence you illiterate moron.

I dont actually care if you cant explain or expand your own argument.

The answer is complex? Its a yes or no? Were they victims of injustice? Are they owed. You're simply asking about the cost of doing the right thing as if to argue that the cost is outcome determantive on whether or not you do the right thing. Is that what you're arguing? Because I think we should do the right thing no matter the cost. The right thing being full compensation for the breadth of the injustice done to them.

Yep.

A million what? In total? Per person? Seems more like you have a number mind.

I don't care what you imagine. Imagine away cosplayer.

What I said you were doing is flailing. Flailing was the verb in my sentence you illiterate moron.

I said you're flailing now that you find it difficult to deny the injustice

Read your own posts.

I dont actually care if you cant explain or expand your own argument.

I can expand my argument, I’m just trying to have you tell me what you think a fair amount is first.

The answer is complex? Its a yes or no? Were they victims of injustice? Are they owed. You're simply asking about the cost of doing the right thing as if to argue that the cost is outcome determantive on whether or not you do the right thing. Is that what you're arguing? Because I think we should do the right thing no matter the cost. The right thing being full compensation for the breadth of the injustice done to them.

Yes, the answer is complex, there are a lot of moving parts to that discussion, but the amount is relevant to that discussion. Why are you reluctant to just tell us what you think is an appropriate amount?

A million what? In total? Per person? Seems more like you have a number mind.

That’s what I’m asking you. On a per person level. I have no idea, ive seen different numbers tossed around, the numbers vary greatly. Which number do you agree with ? I know you’ve read up on it.

I don't care what you imagine. Imagine away cosplayer.

It would be strange for you to feel so strongly about this, and not have thought about what fair recompense is. You simply don’t want to say it. Why? I have no idea.

 

[Curried Goats]

Read your own posts.

I have. The verb that describes something you're doing is flailing. Denying is not something you were doing in that sentence it was something I said you would find difficult to do. You really are a Moron, aren't you?

I can expand my argument, I’m just trying to have you tell me what you think a fair amount is first.

I don't see why it should matter to your argument. Either Black Americans were victims or not. And you either think they are owed justice or not.

Yes, the answer is complex, there are a lot of moving parts to that discussion, but the amount is relevant to that discussion. Why are you reluctant to just tell us what you think is an appropriate amount?

Because as i said i don't know. That calculation is also complicated. We're talking about generations of discrimination and disenfranchisment.

That’s what I’m asking you. On a per person level. I have no idea, ive seen different numbers tossed around, the numbers vary greatly. Which number do you agree with ? I know you’ve read up on it.

You don't know. You're imagining and flailing to avoid answering whether or not you think Black people deserve reparations.

It would be strange for you to feel so strongly about this, and not have thought about what fair recompense is. You simply don’t want to say it. Why? I have no idea.

Why would that be strange? You think I run trauma calculations for funnsies?

 

[ThisIsMe]

I have. The verb that describes something you're doing is flailing. Denying is not something you were doing in that sentence it was something I said you would find difficult to do. You really are a Moron, aren't you?

I don't see why it should matter to your argument. Either Black Americans were victims or not. And you either think they are owed justice or not.

Because as i said i don't know. That calculation is also complicated. We're talking about generations of discrimination and disenfranchisment.

You don't know. You're imagining and flailing to avoid answering whether or not you think Black people deserve reparations.

Why would that be strange? You think I run trauma calculations for funnsies?

I don't see why it should matter to your argument. Either Black Americans were victims or not. And you either think they are owed justice or not.

I think I’ve already answered that. Slavery and the racism that followed had an impact on the black community, but the argument around reparations changed depending on what form and how much those reparations are.

Because as i said i don't know. That calculation is also complicated. We're talking about generations of discrimination and disenfranchisment.

Ok, the San Francisco model (I believe) is suggesting a 5 million dollar cash patent for every eligible black person. Do you agree this number is sufficient, too high, or too low?

Why would that be strange? You think I run trauma calculations for funnsies?

You’re obviously passionate about the subject, so I’m assuming you’ve done more than rudimentary research into it.

 

[Curried Goats]

I think I’ve already answered that. Slavery and the racism that followed had an impact on the black community, but the argument around reparations changed depending on what form and how much those reparations are.



Ok, the San Francisco model (I believe) is suggesting a 5 million dollar cash patent for every eligible black person. Do you agree this number is sufficient, too high, or too low?



You’re obviously passionate about the subject, so I’m assuming you’ve done more than rudimentary research into it.

I'm not being coy with you guy. If I had a number in mind I'd give it to you but I don't. I also don't know much about San Francisco’s proposal other than there were a bunch of them. I'd need more details on the 5 mil proposal before I was able to give you any thoughts about it.

 

[ThisIsMe]

I'm not being coy with you guy. If I had a number in mind I'd give it to you but I don't. I also don't know much about San Francisco’s proposal other than there were a bunch of them. I'd need more details on the 5 mil proposal before I was able to give you any thoughts about it.

San Francisco board open to reparations with $5M payouts

The draft reparations plan, released in December, is unmatched nationwide in its specificity and breadth.

www.nbcnews.com

5 million cash payout
Elimination of personal debt and taxes
Guaranteed income of 97,000 for 250 years
Ability to purchase a home for $1

Those are a couple of more than 100 proposals.

 

[Curried Goats]

San Francisco board open to reparations with $5M payouts

The draft reparations plan, released in December, is unmatched nationwide in its specificity and breadth.

www.nbcnews.com

5 million cash payout
Elimination of personal debt and taxes
Guaranteed income of 97,000 for 250 years
Ability to purchase a home for $1

Those are a couple of more than 100 proposals.

Ok and?

 

[ThisIsMe]

Ok and?

you said you didn’t know much about it so I provided some reading material

 

[Curried Goats]

you said you didn’t know much about it so I provided some reading material

It doesn't really say much. I'm not opposed to every Black San Franciscoin getting 5 mil but the article doesn't really say how they arrived there.

 

[ThisIsMe]

It doesn't really say much. I'm not opposed to every Black San Franciscoin getting 5 mil but the article doesn't really say how they arrived there.

Would you agree with that model on a national scale?