Do these Black democrat voters know the history of Planned Parenthood AND they are the largest users?

[Curried Goats]

So if I say black people vote democrat, that’s racism, but if you say white people vote for trump, that’s a pejorative. ..

What? No, moron. If anyone says Trump voters are a cult that's a pejorative. If anyone believes 86% of black voters aren't making informed decisions that's simply racist paternalism.

That true. Your subjective opinion is based entirely on your own thoughts and not in any facts.

I never pretend my opinions are anything but.

I course, because you look for racism in everything. You use it as a weapon.

I do because it is as are shame, ridicule and guilt. Useful ones.

No, you said that. Is it not true that about 86% of the black vote goes to democrats? There has to be a reason for that.

Why hasnt it occured to you that those reasons are arrived at by an informed choice? Never-mind that one, it was rhetorical.

It has nothing to do with black people not being able to think, it’s because they’ve been misled by the democrats for all these years, and, that it’s partly because have been voting democrat en masse for a very long time.

And you know what's better for black voters than they do themselves?

We all make decisions based on influences around us. In this instance, that influence is the democrat party.

Explain this:

Why So Many Black Voters Are Democrats, Even When They Aren’t Liberal

At first blush, black voters appear to be an almost monolithically Democratic bloc. In 2016, black Americans cast 24 percent of Democratic primary votes — the l…

fivethirtyeight.com

From the outside looking in I've always just thought Black Americans were better Christians than Republicans for having conservative beliefs but not wanting to force them on others.

Why are Blacks Democrats?

African Americans are Democrats. Since 1968 no Republican presidential candidate has received more than 13% of the African American vote and surveys of African Americans regularly show that upwards of 80% of African Americans self-identify as Democrats. However, understanding why African...

press.princeton.edu

This is suggesting that voting democrat is partly social pressure, in which black people are pressured into it by other black people, based on the idea that, it’s just what they have always done.

Except they haven't. Black voters used to be solidly Republican voters when Republicans were the liberal party. The social pressure isn't other black people, its in understanding political power can't rest in the hands of people who always vote to deny black people and marginalized communities equal rights. My family isn't black american. We came to this country in the 80s. We don't have generations of social pressure from friends or relatives to vote for the democratic party but it really doesn't take long to sus out who the fucking racists are. They'll tell you. Republican governors celebrating Confederates day on MLK jr. birthday might imagine they're being coy but we all, no matter where we are from, read that message load and clear.

So when I say it, it’s not racist, it’s just how it has been for a very long time. According to that last article, black culture expects you to vote democrat.

My Jamaican culture knew absolutely nothing about democrats verse Republicans. We taught this shit to ourselves.

I’d love it if we could break through those pressure and get more black people interested in the Republican Party, the problem is, if that ever happens, the rest of the black people call them a sellout, or Uncle Tom…etc..

I have black Republican family members. Two of them. No one cares. They're extremely wealthy and love tax cuts and their kids are also incredibly wealthy and die hard progressives. So? That's some narrative you've been fed. Whenever you're denying black people the agency to make their own choices, even to be Republican, you're being paternalistic.

I only questioned why they target black communities when it comes to locations of abortion clinics. I agreed with you when you explained about black women having higher rates of at risk pregnancies, but what I said wasn’t about racism at all.

It's in the fact that you imagined simply putting abortion clinics in black neighborhoods would trick unwitting black women into having way more abortions which displays how little respect you have for us black people thinking for ourselves.

 

[Redheaded Stranger]

They should rename themselves Planned Death.

 

[ThisIsMe]

What? No, moron. If anyone says Trump voters are a cult that's a pejorative. If anyone believes 86% of black voters aren't making informed decisions that's simply racist paternalism.

I never pretend my opinions are anything but.

I do because it is as are shame, ridicule and guilt. Useful ones.

Why hasnt it occured to you that those reasons are arrived at by an informed choice? Never-mind that one, it was rhetorical.

And you know what's better for black voters than they do themselves?

From the outside looking in I've always just thought Black Americans were better Christians than Republicans for having conservative beliefs but not wanting to force them on others.

Except they haven't. Black voters used to be solidly Republican voters when Republicans were the liberal party. The social pressure isn't other black people, its in understanding political power can't rest in the hands of people who always vote to deny black people and marginalized communities equal rights. My family isn't black american. We came to this country in the 80s. We don't have generations of social pressure from friends or relatives to vote for the democratic party but it really doesn't take long to sus out who the fucking racists are. They'll tell you. Republican governors celebrating Confederates day on MLK jr. birthday might imagine they're being coy but we all, no matter where we are from, read that message load and clear.

My Jamaican culture knew absolutely nothing about democrats verse Republicans. We taught this shit to ourselves.

I have black Republican family members. Two of them. No one cares. They're extremely wealthy and love tax cuts and their kids are also incredibly wealthy and die hard progressives. So? That's some narrative you've been fed. Whenever you're denying black people the agency to make their own choices, even to be Republican, you're being paternalistic.

It's in the fact that you imagined simply putting abortion clinics in black neighborhoods would trick unwitting black women into having way more abortions which displays how little respect you have for us black people thinking for ourselves.

If anyone believes 86% of black voters aren't making informed decisions that's simply racist paternalism.

You keep putting words into my mouth. I said their decisions are influenced by the social and history around them. The informed decisions they make are based largely on the influences around them.

You want me to accept that almost 90% of the black voters in America are voting democrat and that somehow they are all monolithic in thought? That no outside influence is in play here? The fact that you believe the Republican Party is a racist party is proof that the people are being lied to and actually believe that. It’s simply not true.

Yes, you can find racists in republican and democrats, but that doesn’t define either party.

I do because it is as are shame, ridicule and guilt. Useful ones.

I suppose they are useful in the circles you run in, because it makes you all feel good inside to throw those words around for anyone you disagree with, but most of the white people out there probably don’t care. You just expose you’re hate every time you try to make that stick to the wall, which is a lot.

Why hasnt it occured to you that those reasons are arrived at by an informed choice? Never-mind that one, it was rhetorical.

Informed by what?

And you know what's better for black voters than they do themselves?

I would never presume to know what’s better for anyone else. You vote how you feel, but I have every right to observe that the democrat party spreads a lot of lies about the repubs, and the articles I’ve read, and linked, have stated that much of the black vote is influenced by social pressure. Their words, not mine.

From the outside looking in I've always just thought Black Americans were better Christians than Republicans for having conservative beliefs but not wanting to force them on others.

what’s wrong with wanting to follow the cotus as best as possible. That’s what most conservatives believe. Also, are you suggesting that democrats don’t try to push their beliefs on others ??

The social pressure isn't other black people, its in understanding political power can't rest in the hands of people who always vote to deny black people and marginalized communities equal rights

Again, what equal rights are being denied by republicans?

They'll tell you. Republican governors celebrating Confederates day on MLK jr. birthday might imagine they're being coy but we all, no matter where we are from, read that message load and clear

I don’t know anything about this so I did a little reading. It seems a couple of states made this a holiday but not for celebration but to remember what happened, the mistakes that were made, and to learn from them. That’s what I got out of the brief reading of it.

Whenever you're denying black people the agency to make their own choices, even to be Republican, you're being paternalistic.

I’m not denying anything to anyone. I’m suggesting that, like the articles suggest, the informed decision that they make is based off of left wing fabrications and decades old lies.

People have to get informed decision from somewhere, right?

It's in the fact that you imagined simply putting abortion clinics in black neighborhoods would trick unwitting black women into having way more abortions which displays how little respect you have for us black people thinking for ourselves.

No, again, you’re putting words in my mouth. I was suggesting that it was part of the design from Sanger, that’s all. But we’ve discussed this and I’ve conceded that black women might be more prone to have abortion due to risk factors.

 

[Curried Goats]

You keep putting words into my mouth. I said their decisions are influenced by the social and history around them. The informed decisions they make are based largely on the influences around them.

So are black voters making choices that are best for them or not?

You want me to accept that almost 90% of the black voters in America are voting democrat and that somehow they are all monolithic in thought? That no outside influence is in play here? The fact that you believe the Republican Party is a racist party is proof that the people are being lied to and actually believe that. It’s simply not true.

Black people aren't a monolith. The fact that we vote 90% against the Republican party should suggest to you that the belief that the Republican Party is incredibly racist is very real for the vast majority of us. You don't get 90% of voters because you ran some lie on a commercial. These are beliefs born from experience and observation.

Yes, you can find racists in republican and democrats, but that doesn’t define either party.

Racism does define the Republican party. Again, this is the same party that has decided to celebrate Confedrates day on MLK Jr's birthday and holiday. Let's put aside the fact that these fucking deplorables even celebrate these mutants in the first place, the fact that they choose to do it on MLK's birthday is pretty clear message.

I suppose they are useful in the circles you run in, because it makes you all feel good inside to throw those words around for anyone you disagree with, but most of the white people out there probably don’t care. You just expose you’re hate every time you try to make that stick to the wall, which is a lot.

It's useful as a social and political weapon.

Informed by what?

A lifetime of experience.

I would never presume to know what’s better for anyone else. You vote how you feel, but I have every right to observe that the democrat party spreads a lot of lies about the repubs, and the articles I’ve read, and linked, have stated that much of the black vote is influenced by social pressure. Their words, not mine.

I dont give a shit what you read. I am a black voter, I don't need to read an article about it.

what’s wrong with wanting to follow the cotus as best as possible. That’s what most conservatives believe. Also, are you suggesting that democrats don’t try to push their beliefs on others ??

The fact that it was written by racist, misogynistic slavers? That's a pretty good reason to view it skeptically, no? Fucking moron Orginalists Conservative justices like to forget that the original intent of the Slaver Founders wasn't equality for all men.

Again, what equal rights are being denied by republicans?

They oppose the end to electoral college for instance and oppose making D.C. a state.

I don’t know anything about this so I did a little reading. It seems a couple of states made this a holiday but not for celebration but to remember what happened, the mistakes that were made, and to learn from them. That’s what I got out of the brief reading of it.

Have they learned from it? The keep celebrating it.

I’m not denying anything to anyone. I’m suggesting that, like the articles suggest, the informed decision that they make is based off of left wing fabrications and decades old lies.

So? Do you never question anyting you read? Candace told you they put abortion clinics in black neighborhoods to trick them like a roach motel and you swallowed that shit too so maybe. Maybe you are that easily swayed and gullible instead of naturally skeptical like I am.

People have to get informed decision from somewhere, right?

Most people make them from their experience.

No, again, you’re putting words in my mouth. I was suggesting that it was part of the design from Sanger, that’s all. But we’ve discussed this and I’ve conceded that black women might be more prone to have abortion due to risk factors.

So what you read and what Candace told you was shit? Maybe apply that consideration elsewhere, Clown.

 

[ThisIsMe]

So are black voters making choices that are best for them or not?

Black people aren't a monolith. The fact that we vote 90% against the Republican party should suggest to you that the belief that the Republican Party is incredibly racist is very real for the vast majority of us. You don't get 90% of voters because you ran some lie on a commercial. These are beliefs born from experience and observation.

Racism does define the Republican party. Again, this is the same party that has decided to celebrate Confedrates day on MLK Jr's birthday and holiday. Let's put aside the fact that these fucking deplorables even celebrate these mutants in the first place, the fact that they choose to do it on MLK's birthday is pretty clear message.

It's useful as a social and political weapon.

A lifetime of experience.

I dont give a shit what you read. I am a black voter, I don't need to read an article about it.

The fact that it was written by racist, misogynistic slavers? That's a pretty good reason to view it skeptically, no? Fucking moron Orginalists Conservative justices like to forget that the original intent of the Slaver Founders wasn't equality for all men.

They oppose the end to electoral college for instance and oppose making D.C. a state.

Have they learned from it? The keep celebrating it.

So? Do you never question anyting you read? Candace told you they put abortion clinics in black neighborhoods to trick them like a roach motel and you swallowed that shit too so maybe. Maybe you are that easily swayed and gullible instead of naturally skeptical like I am.

Most people make them from their experience.

So what you read and what Candace told you was shit? Maybe apply that consideration elsewhere, Clown.

So are black voters making choices that are best for them or not?

They are making the best choice based on what they’ve been lead to believe. Again, the studies I quoted said a lot of it was social pressure. Again, people’s decisions are influenced by the things around them.

Black people aren't a monolith. The fact that we vote 90% against the Republican party should suggest to you that the belief that the Republican Party is incredibly racist is very real for the vast majority of us.

And that “belief” that the Republican Party racist is instilled because of generations of democrats telling you that. And that belief is reinforced by other people in the black community, like Jackson, like sharpton, who tell them all these things. They make up lies about the Republican policies, say they are against black people, when they are not, there’s no proof that the republicans are doing anything to specifically be anti black.

You don't get 90% of voters because you ran some lie on a commercial. These are beliefs born from experience and observation.

Ok, what are some of the experiences you know of that would lead black people to think the Republican Party is the party of racism?

Racism does define the Republican party. Again, this is the same party that has decided to celebrate Confedrates day on MLK Jr's birthday and holiday.

No, you had a couple state governors decide to commemorate the confederate past, not as a way of celebrating what they did, but as a way of remembering history and the mistakes they did. I believe it was Mississippi that was one that did this? They were also the ones that signed a law to remove the confederate emblem from their flag.

Let's put aside the fact that these fucking deplorables even celebrate these mutants in the first place, the fact that they choose to do it on MLK's birthday is pretty clear message.

They are not celebrating confederates, as I explained above. MLK was born in January, this confederate day is in April, from what I read.

It's useful as a social and political weapon.

Thanks for admitting it’s is a weapon though.

I dont give a shit what you read. I am a black voter, I don't need to read an article about it.

So we just ignore the studies? You speak for all black people? You assume every black personal experience is the same as yours?

The fact that it was written by racist, misogynistic slavers? That's a pretty good reason to view it skeptically, no? Fucking moron Orginalists Conservative justices like to forget that the original intent of the Slaver Founders wasn't equality for all men.

Yes, but, it’s not that way today. It’s a document for all people, and, as you have stated earlier in this debate, past does not affect the future. You disassociate planned parenthood from Margret Sanger because they are no longer what she made them, and they do good now, so don’t you think you could disassociate the cotus from the slavers that wrote it, since the founders are no longer here and the cotus does good?

They oppose the end to electoral college for instance and oppose making D.C. a state.

Well yeah…first of all, if you want to end the EC, then you need to amend the cotus. Secondly, the EC was put in place to allow smaller states to have a voice. What you’re wanting is to allow a small handful of states to be able to dictate the outcome of every election. Like..3 states would be able to steer politics forever.

Yes, they do oppose making dc a state because we know why you want to make dc a state. You want majority in the senate.

if they want representation, they should petition to have the land that was ceded to make DC, given back to their respective states, and they could have representation.

Have they learned from it? The keep celebrating it.

I think people have learned from their mistakes, yes. It’s why there is no longer confederate states.

You act as if the holiday was decided to celebrate racism…from my reading, it isn’t that at all.

So? Do you never question anyting you read? Candace told you they put abortion clinics in black neighborhoods to trick them like a roach motel and you swallowed that shit too so maybe. Maybe you are that easily swayed and gullible instead of naturally skeptical like I am.

She wasn’t wrong according to the website she got the data from. Planned parenthood does operate in a majority of black communities. Her message may have been wrong, but the information was right.

Still, the articles I linked were not just someone’s opinion, they researched the information about black voting.

again, you’d have to believe that the reason for upwards of 90% of the black community voting for democrats is because they all believe the Republican Party is racist and they have experienced racism at the hands of the Republican Party. I find that unlikely, because, as a member of the Republican Party, in anything I see and hear, racism isn’t an issue.

I can’t recall a single time I’ve ever heard anyone in the Republican Party say “we need to do this to keep black people down!”, or anything like that.

Most people make them from their experience.

What experiences do black peolle experience that would lead them to believe that the entire Republican Party is racist? What are some of yours?

So what you read and what Candace told you was shit? Maybe apply that consideration elsewhere,

Again, the data was right, it’s just her reasoning for presenting it was incorrect.

Because one person was wrong doesn’t mean we ignore all data.

 

[Curried Goats]

And that “belief” that the Republican Party racist is instilled because of generations of democrats telling you that. And that belief is reinforced by other people in the black community, like Jackson, like sharpton, who tell them all these things. They make up lies about the Republican policies, say they are against black people, when they are not, there’s no proof that the republicans are doing anything to specifically be anti black.

What generations of democrats telling me that? My family came to this country in the 80s. My parents were geen cars holders. I was one of the first people in my family to vote. My parents didn't become naturalized until after I was 18. Until after 9/11. Anti immigrant sentiment afterwards encouraged them to.

 

[ThisIsMe]

What generations of democrats telling me that? My family came to this country in the 80s. My parents were geen cars holders. I was one of the first people in my family to vote. My parents didn't become naturalized until after I was 18. Until after 9/11. Anti immigrant sentiment afterwards encouraged them to.

I meant “you” as in the collective. Anti Republican sentiment is passed down from generation to generation, because back people have been told all their lives that republicans are racist and hate them. That’s a bunch of lies. Then, social pressure puts weight on black people to vote democrat, and we know this is true because we see it right here. If a black person says they are voting republican, they are called Uncle Tom and sellout….

 

[Curried Goats]

I meant “you” as in the collective. Anti Republican sentiment is passed down from generation to generation, because back people have been told all their lives that republicans are racist and hate them. That’s a bunch of lies. Then, social pressure puts weight on black people to vote democrat, and we know this is true because we see it right here. If a black person says they are voting republican, they are called Uncle Tom and sellout….

What generation after generation? I'm a first generation American.

 

[ThisIsMe]

What generation after generation? I'm a first generation American.

Read the first sentence.

As for you specifically, explain what your influences have been that lead you to think that the Republican Party is the party of racism. What experiences have you had that brought you to that conclusion ?

 

[Curried Goats]

Read the first sentence.

I understand you're trying not to address me specifically because I upset your theory. Try anyway.

 

[ThisIsMe]

I understand you're trying not to address me specifically because I upset your theory. Try anyway.

You’ve not upset anything. Read the question. You say you were born in the 80’s? So what have your experiences been that brought you to the conclusion that the republicans are all racists?

 

[Curried Goats]

You’ve not upset anything. Read the question. You say you were born in the 80’s? So what have your experiences been that brought you to the conclusion that the republicans are all racists?

Personal experiences and observations about what the Republicans stand for.

They are the ones that defend Confederate idolatry today. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/30/florida-may-block-removal-of-confederate-monuments-00138677#:~:text=TALLAHASSEE%2C%20Florida%20%E2%80%94%20Florida's%20Republican%2D,history%2C%20racism%20and%20white%20supremacy.

They're the ones who target black voters with racist ID laws. Court: North Carolina Voter ID Law Targeted Black Voters

And they oppose reparations. https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...421f82-9d2a-11eb-b7a8-014b14aeb9e4_story.html

 

[ThisIsMe]

Personal experiences and observations about what the Republicans stand for.

They are the ones that defend Confederate idolatry today. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/30/florida-may-block-removal-of-confederate-monuments-00138677#:~:text=TALLAHASSEE%2C%20Florida%20%E2%80%94%20Florida's%20Republican%2D,history%2C%20racism%20and%20white%20supremacy.

They're the ones who target black voters with racist ID laws. Court: North Carolina Voter ID Law Targeted Black Voters

And they oppose reparations. https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...421f82-9d2a-11eb-b7a8-014b14aeb9e4_story.html

They are the ones that defend Confederate idolatry today. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/30/florida-may-block-removal-of-confederate-monuments-00138677#:~:text=TALLAHASSEE%2C%20Florida%20%E2%80%94%20Florida's%20Republican%2D,history%2C%20racism%20and%20white%20supremacy.

https://m.flsenate.gov/session/bill/2024/1122/billtext/c1/html

I like how politico tries to ratchet up the racial tension by trying to say it was specifically about confederate statues. According to the bill, it’s for any historical monument, plaque, etc that has been standing for at least 25 years with the intent of being there permanently..it’s in the bill.

They're the ones who target black voters with racist ID laws. Court: North Carolina Voter ID Law Targeted Black Voters

I can’t find the text of the bill that was struck down so I can read it, but, just going off of the NPR article you listed, did it ever occur to you that their intentions wasn’t about race, but about the fact that, as the article says, black people in NC overwhelmingly vote democrat? Now, that’s still a shitty thing to do, you should never try to do anything to try and disenfranchise any voter, but the assertion that it was about making it “so black people cant vote” isn’t the only explanation, maybe it’s they were trying to make it harder for those people who vote democrat.

I would probably be correct in saying, if black people in NC overwhelmingly voted Republican, they wouldn’t probably be trying make it harder for them to vote.

And they oppose reparations. https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...421f82-9d2a-11eb-b7a8-014b14aeb9e4_story.html

Yeah…many people feel that the white population of today shouldn’t be in the hook for paying cash payment to people they had no part in enslaving, especially with some of the studies that had already done where they came up with the idea that each black person should be paid tens of millions of dollars.

That doesn’t mean it was about race, it was just opposing an idea that they didn’t agree with.


So you have 3 articles that appear to have nothing to do with race, except for the fact that people are inclined to make it about race.

 

[Curried Goats]

Yeah…many people feel that the white population of today shouldn’t be in the hook for paying cash payment to people they had no part in enslaving, especially with some of the studies that had already done where they came up with the idea that each black person should be paid tens of millions of dollars.

That doesn’t mean it was about race, it was just opposing an idea that they didn’t agree with.


So you have 3 articles that appear to have nothing to do with race, except for the fact that people are inclined to make it about race.

And this where we come to the crux of your racism. You don't believe in justice for Black Americans. You said it plainly yourself. The Japanese were intervened during WW 2 and reparations to them weren't paid out until the 1980s. A good portion of those tax payers had no part in the internment or in electing the government who perpetrated it but it didn't matter. The American government wronged people, infringed on their equal rights and owed redress. This is no different. You want to wash your hands of the injustice done by your country. That's why I think you're a racist piece of shit.

 

[Curried Goats]

I can’t find the text of the bill that was struck down so I can read it, but, just going off of the NPR article you listed, did it ever occur to you that their intentions wasn’t about race, but about the fact that, as the article says, black people in NC overwhelmingly vote democrat? Now, that’s still a shitty thing to do, you should never try to do anything to try and disenfranchise any voter, but the assertion that it was about making it “so black people cant vote” isn’t the only explanation, maybe it’s they were trying to make it harder for those people who vote democrat.

I would probably be correct in saying, if black people in NC overwhelmingly voted Republican, they wouldn’t probably be trying make it harder for them to vote.

That's not what the court ruled. Did you read the article? The court found that Republicans in North Carolina looked up voting data. Specifically asked for data on black voters and used that data to target black voters with surgical precision. That's a quote from the actual ruling of the court, targeted with surgical precision.

 

[ThisIsMe]

And this where we come to the crux of your racism. You don't believe in justice for Black Americans. You said it plainly yourself. The Japanese were intervened during WW 2 and reparations to them weren't paid out until the 1980s. A good portion of those tax payers had no part in the internment or in electing the government who perpetrated it but it didn't matter. The American government wronged people, infringed on their equal rights and owed redress. This is no different. You want to wash your hands of the injustice done by your country. That's why I think you're a racist piece of shit.

Nope, I believe I said that black people were harmed by the institution of slavery, and all that came after it, I just said that in todays world, you’re asking for white people to pay out an undisclosed amount of money. Back in 1948, they paid 38 million, and then in the 80’s, about 82,000 Japanese received about $20,000. You’re asking that over 42 million black residents receive a cash payout, some saying in the tens of millions of dollars, but even if it were just 1 million, you’d be looking at 42 trillion dollars, and that’s not even including the subsidies you are asking for.

 

[ThisIsMe]

That's not what the court ruled. Did you read the article? The court found that Republicans in North Carolina looked up voting data. Specifically asked for data on black voters and used that data to target black voters with surgical precision. That's a quote from the actual ruling of the court, targeted with surgical precision.

I read the article, and what I’m saying is, the article also says that black people in NC overwhelmingly vote democrat. So if they were singling out black people, you don’t consider that it’s not about them being black, but because they all vote democrat?

Again, if they voted republican, it might have been different, which rules out the issue of skin color and puts ideology center stage.

Also, do you happen to have links to the ruling and the version of the law they struck down, because I can’t find eaither. All I get are articles from left wing sites talking about how they struck down the law. I’d much rather read the actual bill and the ruling from the court than a filtered version from a left wing site.

I’m still searching but everything keeps coming back with articles about this story

Also, from the NPR article, buried down deep in the story:

The appeals court suggested that the motivation was fundamentally political — a Republican legislature attempting to secure its power by blocking votes from a population likely to vote for Democrats.

"Our conclusion does not mean, and we do not suggest, that any member of the General Assembly harbored racial hatred or animosity toward any minority group,"

As I had suggested.

 

[Curried Goats]

Nope, I believe I said that black people were harmed by the institution of slavery, and all that came after it, I just said that in todays world, you’re asking for white people to pay out an undisclosed amount of money. Back in 1948, they paid 38 million, and then in the 80’s, about 82,000 Japanese received about $20,000. You’re asking that over 42 million black residents receive a cash payout, some saying in the tens of millions of dollars, but even if it were just 1 million, you’d be looking at 42 trillion dollars, and that’s not even including the subsidies you are asking for.

No I'm asking Americans you stupid fucking moron. You're the one making it about white people. I'm a tax payer too. My taxes would go to pay for this even though I wasn't even born when these atrocities took place. Even though I'm a first generation American. So what? That's how government and taxes work. And the price tag is beyond the point. Either you believe in justice or you don't.

 

[Curried Goats]

I read the article, and what I’m saying is, the article also says that black people in NC overwhelmingly vote democrat. So if they were singling out black people, you don’t consider that it’s not about them being black, but because they all vote democrat?

Again, if they voted republican, it might have been different, which rules out the issue of skin color and puts ideology center stage.

Also, do you happen to have links to the ruling and the version of the law they struck down, because I can’t find eaither. All I get are articles from left wing sites talking about how they struck down the law. I’d much rather read the actual bill and the ruling from the court than a filtered version from a left wing site.

I’m still searching but everything keeps coming back with articles about this story

Also, from the NPR article, buried down deep in the story:




As I had suggested.

I don't care how they vote. Targeting black voters to disenfranchise them is racist, Moron.

 

[ThisIsMe]

No I'm asking Americans you stupid fucking moron. You're the one making it about white people. I'm a tax payer too. My taxes would go to pay for this even though I wasn't even born when these atrocities took place. Even though I'm a first generation American. So what? That's how government and taxes work. And the price tag is beyond the point. Either you believe in justice or you don't.

Ok, so we’re parsing it out. So black Americans..how many is that? I don’t know the numbers of American born black people…let’s say…35 million?

I mean, white people would certainly be involved in this, so they should be considered.

The price tag is certainly not beyond the point. It’s extremely relevant..so, give me a number? How much cash payout should be given? We’re talking cash only here…not related to other economic help…just the cash portion.

How much do you believe should be given to each black American?