Do Not Boycott Israel - Letter To Edinburgh University

[Phoenall]

One such example of propaganda would be that Israel has a system of apartheid. Obviously, they do not. The truth is that Israel has never had a system of apartheid.

Israel has apartheid roads........one for arabs and one for Jews ........running parallel next to each other. ....

Wrong again sunni boy, they are not in Israel but in the occupied territories. They are there for the security of Israel.

 

[Phoenall]

1. there is not and has never been a system of apartheid in Israel.

Bullshit. Of course it is an Apartheid state. Gaza and the West Bank are equivalent to the Bantustans in Apartheid South Africa.

2. Where are the Israeli concentration camps?

Just because the Israeli Jews use bombs to murder hundreds of children in Gaza rather than gas and ovens, does it make it any different?

3. Under Israeli law, Arab Israelis have exactly the same rights as Jews or anyone else; Muslims have the same rights as Jews or Christians;

Bullshit.

A Jew from anywhere has the right of return. A Muslim or Christian who lost his father's or grand parents's home and land cannot return to his land.

Land-ownership "Overall, Israeli laws and ILA policy prohibit Arabs from buying, leasing or using land exclusively reserved for Jews."

Israel 8217 s Discriminatory Land Policies Global Research

The whole letter is full of lies.

For example:

"Arabs in Israel can go anywhere they want, unlike blacks in apartheid South Africa."

Total bullshit. Arabs can't even travel on some roads.

WRONG as they are part of the west bank and gaza which have their own government, the roads are under military law.

The bombs are in direct retaliation to violence, terrorism and belligerence

You want apartheid look no further than the Palestinians charters that deny any Jew the right to live in Palestine, and proclaims they will be murdered if they try.

 

[P F Tinmore]

1. there is not and has never been a system of apartheid in Israel.

Bullshit. Of course it is an Apartheid state. Gaza and the West Bank are equivalent to the Bantustans in Apartheid South Africa.

2. Where are the Israeli concentration camps?

Just because the Israeli Jews use bombs to murder hundreds of children in Gaza rather than gas and ovens, does it make it any different?

3. Under Israeli law, Arab Israelis have exactly the same rights as Jews or anyone else; Muslims have the same rights as Jews or Christians;

Bullshit.

A Jew from anywhere has the right of return. A Muslim or Christian who lost his father's or grand parents's home and land cannot return to his land.

Land-ownership "Overall, Israeli laws and ILA policy prohibit Arabs from buying, leasing or using land exclusively reserved for Jews."

Israel 8217 s Discriminatory Land Policies Global Research

The whole letter is full of lies.

For example:

"Arabs in Israel can go anywhere they want, unlike blacks in apartheid South Africa."

Total bullshit. Arabs can't even travel on some roads.

Where is there apartheid IN ISRAEL?

That is an easy one.

In international law, when a state is dissolved and new states are established, “the population follows the change of sovereignty in matters of nationality.”5 As a rule, therefore, citizens of the former state should automatically acquire the nationality of the successor state in which they had already been residing.

Genesis of Citizenship in Palestine and Israel

This means that all of the Palestinians who normally lived in the territory that became Israel are Israelis.

Why does Israel keep Israelis out of their country away from their homes and properties. Why does Israel prevent Israelis the right to vote?

 

[Penelope]

1. there is not and has never been a system of apartheid in Israel.

Bullshit. Of course it is an Apartheid state. Gaza and the West Bank are equivalent to the Bantustans in Apartheid South Africa.

2. Where are the Israeli concentration camps?

Just because the Israeli Jews use bombs to murder hundreds of children in Gaza rather than gas and ovens, does it make it any different?

3. Under Israeli law, Arab Israelis have exactly the same rights as Jews or anyone else; Muslims have the same rights as Jews or Christians;

Bullshit.

A Jew from anywhere has the right of return. A Muslim or Christian who lost his father's or grand parents's home and land cannot return to his land.

Land-ownership "Overall, Israeli laws and ILA policy prohibit Arabs from buying, leasing or using land exclusively reserved for Jews."

Israel 8217 s Discriminatory Land Policies Global Research

The whole letter is full of lies.

For example:

"Arabs in Israel can go anywhere they want, unlike blacks in apartheid South Africa."

Total bullshit. Arabs can't even travel on some roads.

WRONG as they are part of the west bank and gaza which have their own government, the roads are under military law.

The bombs are in direct retaliation to violence, terrorism and belligerence

You want apartheid look no further than the Palestinians charters that deny any Jew the right to live in Palestine, and proclaims they will be murdered if they try.

Well I happen to agree with this guys opinion. Gets old to hear the same old all the time, our security , BS.

Israel’s moment of choice
In an exclusive opinion piece for Haaretz, senior Fatah official Husam Zomlot says that Israel can’t have it both ways: either it takes full responsibility for the Palestinians or it relinquishes control of their lives and territory.

By Dr. Husam Zomlot Sep. 26, 2014 | 7:28 PM
When the Palestinian consensus government was sworn in on 2 June 2014, ending seven years of Palestinian political and institutional division, Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu immediately rejected it, telling Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in a public statement that he must choose between peace and Hamas.

Today we are saying this is Israel’s moment of choice. Either Netanyahu must declare that the status quo is a military occupation of the territory occupied in 1967, in which case after 47 years it must come to an end. Or he must declare that the status quo is not an occupation and that Israel intends to continue taking effective control of the entire territory of historic Palestine and denying basic individual and collective rights to Palestinians living inside and in exile. Netanyahu’s habit of giving lip service to the first, while following the second, can no longer continue.

Israel can’t have it both ways: land without people, control without responsibility. This has gone on for far too long. Either Israel takes full responsibility or it gives up control of the lives and territory of millions of Palestinians.

I think everyone is sick and tired of watching this for years.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I think everyone is sick and tired of watching Israel be accused for what HAMAS and those supporting HAMAS are responsible for, Penelope. That is what I believe people are becoming sick of. And with the emerging of ISIS and ISIL we see Americans realizing the nature of the enemy that Israel has been defending herself from.

HAMAS is no different from ISIL OR ISIS OR Al Shabob or Islamic Jihad or Hizbollah - they are all enemies of Israel, enemies of the West - do the same barbaric things to their own people and others - there is no difference that I can see. Murder is murder, rape is rape, abduction is abduction, destruction is destruction, robbery is robbery, beheading is beheading....... What? Are we going to start grading it by levels of intensity? Sin is sin. The lies - the slander - the propaganda against Israel must be realized for what it is. An agenda to isolate her and turn the world against her. It's time for Israel's side to be heard. imo.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

1. there is not and has never been a system of apartheid in Israel.

Bullshit. Of course it is an Apartheid state. Gaza and the West Bank are equivalent to the Bantustans in Apartheid South Africa.

2. Where are the Israeli concentration camps?

Just because the Israeli Jews use bombs to murder hundreds of children in Gaza rather than gas and ovens, does it make it any different?

3. Under Israeli law, Arab Israelis have exactly the same rights as Jews or anyone else; Muslims have the same rights as Jews or Christians;

Bullshit.

A Jew from anywhere has the right of return. A Muslim or Christian who lost his father's or grand parents's home and land cannot return to his land.

Land-ownership "Overall, Israeli laws and ILA policy prohibit Arabs from buying, leasing or using land exclusively reserved for Jews."

Israel 8217 s Discriminatory Land Policies Global Research

The whole letter is full of lies.

For example:

"Arabs in Israel can go anywhere they want, unlike blacks in apartheid South Africa."

Total bullshit. Arabs can't even travel on some roads.

Where is there apartheid IN ISRAEL?

That is an easy one.

In international law, when a state is dissolved and new states are established, “the population follows the change of sovereignty in matters of nationality.”5 As a rule, therefore, citizens of the former state should automatically acquire the nationality of the successor state in which they had already been residing.

Genesis of Citizenship in Palestine and Israel

This means that all of the Palestinians who normally lived in the territory that became Israel are Israelis.

Why does Israel keep Israelis out of their country away from their homes and properties. Why does Israel prevent Israelis the right to vote?

The Arabs never called themselves Palestinians until AFTER Israel was reborn in 1948. The people of Israel have always been the Hebrews - going back 4,000 years. The Arabs must realize that this lie of them being "Palestinian" is paper thin - and many see straight through it. The challenge was made to prove their history to the region some time ago on USMB and not a single person was able to do it. Not even you! Israel belongs to the Jews.

 

[Penelope]

I think everyone is sick and tired of watching Israel be accused for what HAMAS and those supporting HAMAS are responsible for, Penelope. That is what I believe people are becoming sick of. And with the emerging of ISIS and ISIL we see Americans realizing the nature of the enemy that Israel has been defending herself from.

HAMAS is no different from ISIL OR ISIS OR Al Shabob or Islamic Jihad or Hizbollah - they are all enemies of Israel, enemies of the West - do the same barbaric things to their own people and others - there is no difference that I can see. Murder is murder, rape is rape, abduction is abduction, destruction is destruction, robbery is robbery, beheading is beheading....... What? Are we going to start grading it by levels of intensity? Sin is sin. The lies - the slander - the propaganda against Israel must be realized for what it is. An agenda to isolate her and turn the world against her. It's time for Israel's side to be heard. imo.

You believe all the Israel propaganda, everyone is a terrorist who doesn't agree with Israel despicable treatment of the Pals,

 

[Penelope]

1. there is not and has never been a system of apartheid in Israel.

Bullshit. Of course it is an Apartheid state. Gaza and the West Bank are equivalent to the Bantustans in Apartheid South Africa.

2. Where are the Israeli concentration camps?

Just because the Israeli Jews use bombs to murder hundreds of children in Gaza rather than gas and ovens, does it make it any different?

3. Under Israeli law, Arab Israelis have exactly the same rights as Jews or anyone else; Muslims have the same rights as Jews or Christians;

Bullshit.

A Jew from anywhere has the right of return. A Muslim or Christian who lost his father's or grand parents's home and land cannot return to his land.

Land-ownership "Overall, Israeli laws and ILA policy prohibit Arabs from buying, leasing or using land exclusively reserved for Jews."

Israel 8217 s Discriminatory Land Policies Global Research

The whole letter is full of lies.

For example:

"Arabs in Israel can go anywhere they want, unlike blacks in apartheid South Africa."

Total bullshit. Arabs can't even travel on some roads.

Where is there apartheid IN ISRAEL?

That is an easy one.

In international law, when a state is dissolved and new states are established, “the population follows the change of sovereignty in matters of nationality.”5 As a rule, therefore, citizens of the former state should automatically acquire the nationality of the successor state in which they had already been residing.

Genesis of Citizenship in Palestine and Israel

This means that all of the Palestinians who normally lived in the territory that became Israel are Israelis.

Why does Israel keep Israelis out of their country away from their homes and properties. Why does Israel prevent Israelis the right to vote?

The Arabs never called themselves Palestinians until AFTER Israel was reborn in 1948. The people of Israel have always been the Hebrews - going back 4,000 years. The Arabs must realize that this lie of them being "Palestinian" is paper thin - and many see straight through it. The challenge was made to prove their history to the region some time ago on USMB and not a single person was able to do it. Not even you! Israel belongs to the Jews.

1. there is not and has never been a system of apartheid in Israel.

Bullshit. Of course it is an Apartheid state. Gaza and the West Bank are equivalent to the Bantustans in Apartheid South Africa.

2. Where are the Israeli concentration camps?

Just because the Israeli Jews use bombs to murder hundreds of children in Gaza rather than gas and ovens, does it make it any different?

3. Under Israeli law, Arab Israelis have exactly the same rights as Jews or anyone else; Muslims have the same rights as Jews or Christians;

Bullshit.

A Jew from anywhere has the right of return. A Muslim or Christian who lost his father's or grand parents's home and land cannot return to his land.

Land-ownership "Overall, Israeli laws and ILA policy prohibit Arabs from buying, leasing or using land exclusively reserved for Jews."

Israel 8217 s Discriminatory Land Policies Global Research

The whole letter is full of lies.

For example:

"Arabs in Israel can go anywhere they want, unlike blacks in apartheid South Africa."

Total bullshit. Arabs can't even travel on some roads.

Where is there apartheid IN ISRAEL?

That is an easy one.

In international law, when a state is dissolved and new states are established, “the population follows the change of sovereignty in matters of nationality.”5 As a rule, therefore, citizens of the former state should automatically acquire the nationality of the successor state in which they had already been residing.

Genesis of Citizenship in Palestine and Israel

This means that all of the Palestinians who normally lived in the territory that became Israel are Israelis.

Why does Israel keep Israelis out of their country away from their homes and properties. Why does Israel prevent Israelis the right to vote?

The Arabs never called themselves Palestinians until AFTER Israel was reborn in 1948. The people of Israel have always been the Hebrews - going back 4,000 years. The Arabs must realize that this lie of them being "Palestinian" is paper thin - and many see straight through it. The challenge was made to prove their history to the region some time ago on USMB and not a single person was able to do it. Not even you! Israel belongs to the Jews.

Hey if your grandparents and your parents and you were born there that Is your home, like it or not, and now a whole bunch of generations have been born to the Pals there, so get over it.

The Jews or Hebrews have no proof either except in that book of theirs that is just their opinion.

 

[Sunni Man]

Israel belongs to the Jews.

Not for much longer........ .

 

[P F Tinmore]

1. there is not and has never been a system of apartheid in Israel.

Bullshit. Of course it is an Apartheid state. Gaza and the West Bank are equivalent to the Bantustans in Apartheid South Africa.

2. Where are the Israeli concentration camps?

Just because the Israeli Jews use bombs to murder hundreds of children in Gaza rather than gas and ovens, does it make it any different?

3. Under Israeli law, Arab Israelis have exactly the same rights as Jews or anyone else; Muslims have the same rights as Jews or Christians;

Bullshit.

A Jew from anywhere has the right of return. A Muslim or Christian who lost his father's or grand parents's home and land cannot return to his land.

Land-ownership "Overall, Israeli laws and ILA policy prohibit Arabs from buying, leasing or using land exclusively reserved for Jews."

Israel 8217 s Discriminatory Land Policies Global Research

The whole letter is full of lies.

For example:

"Arabs in Israel can go anywhere they want, unlike blacks in apartheid South Africa."

Total bullshit. Arabs can't even travel on some roads.

Where is there apartheid IN ISRAEL?

That is an easy one.

In international law, when a state is dissolved and new states are established, “the population follows the change of sovereignty in matters of nationality.”5 As a rule, therefore, citizens of the former state should automatically acquire the nationality of the successor state in which they had already been residing.

Genesis of Citizenship in Palestine and Israel

This means that all of the Palestinians who normally lived in the territory that became Israel are Israelis.

Why does Israel keep Israelis out of their country away from their homes and properties. Why does Israel prevent Israelis the right to vote?

The Arabs never called themselves Palestinians until AFTER Israel was reborn in 1948. The people of Israel have always been the Hebrews - going back 4,000 years. The Arabs must realize that this lie of them being "Palestinian" is paper thin - and many see straight through it. The challenge was made to prove their history to the region some time ago on USMB and not a single person was able to do it. Not even you! Israel belongs to the Jews.

What does all that have to do with my post?

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I think everyone is sick and tired of watching Israel be accused for what HAMAS and those supporting HAMAS are responsible for, Penelope. That is what I believe people are becoming sick of. And with the emerging of ISIS and ISIL we see Americans realizing the nature of the enemy that Israel has been defending herself from.

HAMAS is no different from ISIL OR ISIS OR Al Shabob or Islamic Jihad or Hizbollah - they are all enemies of Israel, enemies of the West - do the same barbaric things to their own people and others - there is no difference that I can see. Murder is murder, rape is rape, abduction is abduction, destruction is destruction, robbery is robbery, beheading is beheading....... What? Are we going to start grading it by levels of intensity? Sin is sin. The lies - the slander - the propaganda against Israel must be realized for what it is. An agenda to isolate her and turn the world against her. It's time for Israel's side to be heard. imo.

You believe all the Israel propaganda, everyone is a terrorist who doesn't agree with Israel despicable treatment of the Pals,

I have never said everyone who doesn't agree with Israel is a terrorist. I also disagree with you that Israel's treatment of the Arabs living in Gaza is despicable. I believe the treatment of Israel by many of those Arab Muslims who live in Gaza is despicable and they have shown little appreciation for all the goodness Israel has done unto them such as treating their people at Israel hospitals, dropping flyers when they had to stop Hamas from firing rockets into Israeli territory, etc.

With that said.........

Please post the thread / post where I said that, Penelope on this reply or retract the accusation. You do not get to make wild claims on my threads unless you can back them up with evidence.

I assure you I have never once on USMB made the statement that I believed everyone who didn't agree with Israeli was a terrorist.

That is completely untrue and incredibly reckless of you to make such a wild and twisted claim / accusation against me. If you cannot respond to the content of the OP admit it and go find a thread you can handle. This type of discussion isn't for everyone. I fully understand that not everyone is up to it.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

1. there is not and has never been a system of apartheid in Israel.

Bullshit. Of course it is an Apartheid state. Gaza and the West Bank are equivalent to the Bantustans in Apartheid South Africa.

2. Where are the Israeli concentration camps?

Just because the Israeli Jews use bombs to murder hundreds of children in Gaza rather than gas and ovens, does it make it any different?

3. Under Israeli law, Arab Israelis have exactly the same rights as Jews or anyone else; Muslims have the same rights as Jews or Christians;

Bullshit.

A Jew from anywhere has the right of return. A Muslim or Christian who lost his father's or grand parents's home and land cannot return to his land.

Land-ownership "Overall, Israeli laws and ILA policy prohibit Arabs from buying, leasing or using land exclusively reserved for Jews."

Israel 8217 s Discriminatory Land Policies Global Research

The whole letter is full of lies.

For example:

"Arabs in Israel can go anywhere they want, unlike blacks in apartheid South Africa."

Total bullshit. Arabs can't even travel on some roads.

Where is there apartheid IN ISRAEL?

That is an easy one.

In international law, when a state is dissolved and new states are established, “the population follows the change of sovereignty in matters of nationality.”5 As a rule, therefore, citizens of the former state should automatically acquire the nationality of the successor state in which they had already been residing.

Genesis of Citizenship in Palestine and Israel

This means that all of the Palestinians who normally lived in the territory that became Israel are Israelis.

Why does Israel keep Israelis out of their country away from their homes and properties. Why does Israel prevent Israelis the right to vote?

The Arabs never called themselves Palestinians until AFTER Israel was reborn in 1948. The people of Israel have always been the Hebrews - going back 4,000 years. The Arabs must realize that this lie of them being "Palestinian" is paper thin - and many see straight through it. The challenge was made to prove their history to the region some time ago on USMB and not a single person was able to do it. Not even you! Israel belongs to the Jews.

What does all that have to do with my post?

Everything. Your arab friends have no claim to the land they are one. As in "none". I believe Israel has done all they can do for your people and it is time to ask all of the Arabs to leave. HAMAS has no intention of making peace with Israel - the false accusations, claims, nonsense has gone on long enough. They should move to Jordan and exit Gaza peacefully so that Israel can remove Hamas once and for all.

 

[Penelope]

I think everyone is sick and tired of watching Israel be accused for what HAMAS and those supporting HAMAS are responsible for, Penelope. That is what I believe people are becoming sick of. And with the emerging of ISIS and ISIL we see Americans realizing the nature of the enemy that Israel has been defending herself from.

HAMAS is no different from ISIL OR ISIS OR Al Shabob or Islamic Jihad or Hizbollah - they are all enemies of Israel, enemies of the West - do the same barbaric things to their own people and others - there is no difference that I can see. Murder is murder, rape is rape, abduction is abduction, destruction is destruction, robbery is robbery, beheading is beheading....... What? Are we going to start grading it by levels of intensity? Sin is sin. The lies - the slander - the propaganda against Israel must be realized for what it is. An agenda to isolate her and turn the world against her. It's time for Israel's side to be heard. imo.

You believe all the Israel propaganda, everyone is a terrorist who doesn't agree with Israel despicable treatment of the Pals,

I have never said everyone who doesn't agree with Israel is a terrorist. I also disagree with you that Israel's treatment of the Arabs living in Gaza is despicable. I believe the treatment of Israel by many of those Arab Muslims who live in Gaza is despicable and they have shown little appreciation for all the goodness Israel has done unto them such as treating their people at Israel hospitals, dropping flyers when they had to stop Hamas from firing rockets into Israeli territory, etc.

With that said.........

Please post the thread / post where I said that, Penelope on this reply or retract the accusation. You do not get to make wild claims on my threads unless you can back them up with evidence.

I assure you I have never once on USMB made the statement that I believed everyone who didn't agree with Israeli was a terrorist.

That is completely untrue and incredibly reckless of you to make such a wild and twisted claim / accusation against me. If you cannot respond to the content of the OP admit it and go find a thread you can handle. This type of discussion isn't for everyone. I fully understand that not everyone is up to it.

this is Israel's propaganda that you believe. never said those were you words.

everyone is a terrorist who doesn't agree with Israel despicable treatment of the Pals,

or anyone that is not pro Israel. My words since daily they make accusations against everyone it seems.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Israel belongs to the Jews.

Not for much longer........ .

According to who? Your prophet? He has been proven wrong so many times concerning the Jews there should be no question as to his identity, Sunni Man. Wake up.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I think everyone is sick and tired of watching Israel be accused for what HAMAS and those supporting HAMAS are responsible for, Penelope. That is what I believe people are becoming sick of. And with the emerging of ISIS and ISIL we see Americans realizing the nature of the enemy that Israel has been defending herself from.

HAMAS is no different from ISIL OR ISIS OR Al Shabob or Islamic Jihad or Hizbollah - they are all enemies of Israel, enemies of the West - do the same barbaric things to their own people and others - there is no difference that I can see. Murder is murder, rape is rape, abduction is abduction, destruction is destruction, robbery is robbery, beheading is beheading....... What? Are we going to start grading it by levels of intensity? Sin is sin. The lies - the slander - the propaganda against Israel must be realized for what it is. An agenda to isolate her and turn the world against her. It's time for Israel's side to be heard. imo.

You believe all the Israel propaganda, everyone is a terrorist who doesn't agree with Israel despicable treatment of the Pals,

I have never said everyone who doesn't agree with Israel is a terrorist. I also disagree with you that Israel's treatment of the Arabs living in Gaza is despicable. I believe the treatment of Israel by many of those Arab Muslims who live in Gaza is despicable and they have shown little appreciation for all the goodness Israel has done unto them such as treating their people at Israel hospitals, dropping flyers when they had to stop Hamas from firing rockets into Israeli territory, etc.

With that said.........

Please post the thread / post where I said that, Penelope on this reply or retract the accusation. You do not get to make wild claims on my threads unless you can back them up with evidence.

I assure you I have never once on USMB made the statement that I believed everyone who didn't agree with Israeli was a terrorist.

That is completely untrue and incredibly reckless of you to make such a wild and twisted claim / accusation against me. If you cannot respond to the content of the OP admit it and go find a thread you can handle. This type of discussion isn't for everyone. I fully understand that not everyone is up to it.

this is Israel's propaganda that you believe. never said those were you words.

everyone is a terrorist who doesn't agree with Israel despicable treatment of the Pals,

or anyone that is not pro Israel.

So you cannot find any thread or post I've written on USMB to back up your claim, Penelope. Just as I knew you wouldn't because what you have claimed I've said is untrue. I think you should find another thread. Address the OP or find another thread. Your choice.

 

[Penelope]

I think everyone is sick and tired of watching Israel be accused for what HAMAS and those supporting HAMAS are responsible for, Penelope. That is what I believe people are becoming sick of. And with the emerging of ISIS and ISIL we see Americans realizing the nature of the enemy that Israel has been defending herself from.

HAMAS is no different from ISIL OR ISIS OR Al Shabob or Islamic Jihad or Hizbollah - they are all enemies of Israel, enemies of the West - do the same barbaric things to their own people and others - there is no difference that I can see. Murder is murder, rape is rape, abduction is abduction, destruction is destruction, robbery is robbery, beheading is beheading....... What? Are we going to start grading it by levels of intensity? Sin is sin. The lies - the slander - the propaganda against Israel must be realized for what it is. An agenda to isolate her and turn the world against her. It's time for Israel's side to be heard. imo.

You believe all the Israel propaganda, everyone is a terrorist who doesn't agree with Israel despicable treatment of the Pals,

I have never said everyone who doesn't agree with Israel is a terrorist. I also disagree with you that Israel's treatment of the Arabs living in Gaza is despicable. I believe the treatment of Israel by many of those Arab Muslims who live in Gaza is despicable and they have shown little appreciation for all the goodness Israel has done unto them such as treating their people at Israel hospitals, dropping flyers when they had to stop Hamas from firing rockets into Israeli territory, etc.

With that said.........

Please post the thread / post where I said that, Penelope on this reply or retract the accusation. You do not get to make wild claims on my threads unless you can back them up with evidence.

I assure you I have never once on USMB made the statement that I believed everyone who didn't agree with Israeli was a terrorist.

That is completely untrue and incredibly reckless of you to make such a wild and twisted claim / accusation against me. If you cannot respond to the content of the OP admit it and go find a thread you can handle. This type of discussion isn't for everyone. I fully understand that not everyone is up to it.

this is Israel's propaganda that you believe. never said those were you words.

everyone is a terrorist who doesn't agree with Israel despicable treatment of the Pals,

or anyone that is not pro Israel.

So you cannot find any thread or post I've written on USMB to back up your claim, Penelope. Just as I knew you wouldn't because what you have claimed I've said is untrue. I think you should find another thread. Address the OP or find another thread. Your choice.

What are saying I said you said and show me where. I never said you said anything. What claim?

Oh I said you believe all the Israel propaganda and that is their propaganda, everyone is a terrorist that doesn't suck up to them and bow down to them.

 

[montelatici]

1. there is not and has never been a system of apartheid in Israel.

Bullshit. Of course it is an Apartheid state. Gaza and the West Bank are equivalent to the Bantustans in Apartheid South Africa.

2. Where are the Israeli concentration camps?

Just because the Israeli Jews use bombs to murder hundreds of children in Gaza rather than gas and ovens, does it make it any different?

3. Under Israeli law, Arab Israelis have exactly the same rights as Jews or anyone else; Muslims have the same rights as Jews or Christians;

Bullshit.

A Jew from anywhere has the right of return. A Muslim or Christian who lost his father's or grand parents's home and land cannot return to his land.

Land-ownership "Overall, Israeli laws and ILA policy prohibit Arabs from buying, leasing or using land exclusively reserved for Jews."

Israel 8217 s Discriminatory Land Policies Global Research

The whole letter is full of lies.

For example:

"Arabs in Israel can go anywhere they want, unlike blacks in apartheid South Africa."

Total bullshit. Arabs can't even travel on some roads.

WRONG as they are part of the west bank and gaza which have their own government, the roads are under military law.

The bombs are in direct retaliation to violence, terrorism and belligerence

You want apartheid look no further than the Palestinians charters that deny any Jew the right to live in Palestine, and proclaims they will be murdered if they try.

Quite simply, Israel is an Apartheid state. The South African Government has indicated as such, and I don't believe that there are any people better qualified to determine whether or not Israel is an Apartheid state than people who lived under Apartheid.

 

[montelatici]

1. there is not and has never been a system of apartheid in Israel.

Bullshit. Of course it is an Apartheid state. Gaza and the West Bank are equivalent to the Bantustans in Apartheid South Africa.

2. Where are the Israeli concentration camps?

Just because the Israeli Jews use bombs to murder hundreds of children in Gaza rather than gas and ovens, does it make it any different?

3. Under Israeli law, Arab Israelis have exactly the same rights as Jews or anyone else; Muslims have the same rights as Jews or Christians;

Bullshit.

A Jew from anywhere has the right of return. A Muslim or Christian who lost his father's or grand parents's home and land cannot return to his land.

Land-ownership "Overall, Israeli laws and ILA policy prohibit Arabs from buying, leasing or using land exclusively reserved for Jews."

Israel 8217 s Discriminatory Land Policies Global Research

The whole letter is full of lies.

For example:

"Arabs in Israel can go anywhere they want, unlike blacks in apartheid South Africa."

Total bullshit. Arabs can't even travel on some roads.

Where is there apartheid IN ISRAEL?

"According to Article II of the International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid, adopted by the U.N. General Assembly in 1973, the term Apartheid applies to acts "committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one racial group of persons over any other racial group of persons and systematically oppressing them." Denying those others the right to life and liberty, subjecting them to arbitrary arrest, expropriating their property, depriving them of the right to leave and return to their country or the right to freedom of movement and of residence, creating separate reserves and ghettos for the members of different racial groups, preventing mixed marriages — these are all examples of the crime of apartheid specifically mentioned in the convention.

Seeing the reference to racial groups here, some people might think of race in a putatively biological sense or as a matter of skin color. That is a rather simplistic (and dated) way of thinking about racial identity. More to the point, however, the operative definition of "racial identity" is provided in the 1965 International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (to which Israel is a signatory), on which the apartheid convention explicitly draws.

And so it goes in all domains of life, from birth to death: a systematic, vigilantly policed separation of the two populations.-
There, the term "racial discrimination" is defined as "any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, color, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life."

Does the term apartheid fit Israel Of course it does. - LA Times

 

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About 60,000 African migrants have arrived in Israel since 2006, fleeing unrest in their home countries. But upon arrival in the ostensibly democratic country, the migrants have faced intense persecution and have been branded as "infiltrators" by right-wing politicians and activists.

Because they are infiltrators, moron.

What is it with you brainless dolts that you can't understand the concepts of Nation, A People, a Right to Self-Determination?

If it were up to me, and you guys are lucky that it's not, I'd parachute all the Arabs living in Israel deep into Saudi Arabia or Iran and let fellow Muslims deal with them. Israel for Jews and Jews alone.

 

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How can anyone justify people coming from another continent (Europe), settling and expelling the people that were living on the land (Palestine) for many generations. I don't get it.

When you wage war against a group, pre-Israel era Palestinians against the Jews, then you don't get to call for rulings or rewrite the rules when you find yourself losing.