Dissecting John Stossel's Anti-Communist Lies

[Red Front]

they would think of something because entrepreneurs are the thinkers of society

Without them no progress is made

Capitalists undermine progress. It's the science community, comprised of scientists and engineers, in research labs around the world, often funded by governments, which are responsible for human progress. Philosophers, and scholars, also make a significant impact on society, contributing to the evolution of mankind.

Capitalists are parasite leeches, living off of other people's labor, undermining progress when it threatens their profits. We're stuck now relying on fossil fuels because capitalists want to continue milking the fossil fuel cash cow, and refuse to allow the adoption of nuclear energy.

They love it when the government builds highways, and designs cities with cars in mind because commuting in America always has to be done with cars, not with public transit or some other easier, more cost-effective mode of transportation. Nuclear plants have to be built for electric cars to replace gas-guzzling vehicles, that pollute our atmosphere. The mortal enemy of nuclear energy is the fossil fuel industry. They don't care how carbon emissions affect the environment as long as they're making billions in profits yearly. The government is even subsidizing EXXON and other big oil companies.

Capitalism is destroying the world. The military-industrial complex loves war and will keep us always looking for someone to hate around the world, like Russia or China. The more boogiemen exist in the world, the more money weapons manufacturers make, selling their weapons to Uncle Sam and foreign governments. The war profiteers love conflict and will eventually lead us into a war with China or/and Russia. Capitalism leads to mass extinction.

https://www.heritage-history.com/site/hclass/secret_societies/ebooks/pdf/butler_racket.pdf

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[Red Front]

A where would that be ?

Morocco ?

Here in the US of course.

 

[Red Front]

What is the capital of the most successful communist country today?

What's your definition of success? According to right-wing Republicans, that would be Berlin. They're all commies according to American right-wingers.

Being constantly threatened with war, bombed, invaded, and economically embargoed by the US and its allies, also takes a heavy toll on countries that openly identify as having Marxist-socialist economies. Most nations just adopt socialist policies, without identifying themselves as socialist in order to avoid the wrath of the THE EMPIRE i.e. United States.

You lack critical reasoning, hence you assume that because material conditions didn't exist in the past to establish a modern, marketless, non-profit economy or system of production, those material requirements will NEVER exist. You're quite irrational Todd. Advanced 21st century automation technology and artificial intelligence, is the end of capitalism and the beginning of the socialist age.

 

[Mac-7]

Capitalists undermine progress. It's the science community, comprised of scientists and engineers, in research labs around the world, often funded by governments, which are responsible for human progress. Philosophers, and scholars, also make a significant impact on society, contributing to the evolution of mankind.

Capitalists are parasite leeches, living off of other people's labor, undermining progress when it threatens their profits. We're stuck now relying on fossil fuels because capitalists want to continue milking the fossil fuel cash cow, and refuse to allow the adoption of nuclear energy.

They love it when the government builds highways, and designs cities with cars in mind because commuting in America always has to be done with cars, not with public transit or some other easier, more cost-effective mode of transportation. Nuclear plants have to be built for electric cars to replace gas-guzzling vehicles, that pollute our atmosphere. The mortal enemy of nuclear energy is the fossil fuel industry. They don't care how carbon emissions affect the environment as long as they're making billions in profits yearly. The government is even subsidizing EXXON and other big oil companies.

Capitalism is destroying the world. The military-industrial complex loves war and will keep us always looking for someone to hate around the world, like Russia or China. The more boogiemen exist in the world, the more money weapons manufacturers make, selling their weapons to Uncle Sam and foreign governments. The war profiteers love conflict and will eventually lead us into a war with China or/and Russia. Capitalism leads to mass extinction.

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https://www.heritage-history.com/site/hclass/secret_societies/ebooks/pdf/butler_racket.pdf

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Scientists are important to economic progress also

But to dismiss capitalists as leaches is a very immature and uninformed opinion

entrepreneurs put the rubber of scientific discoveries to the road and make things go

 

[Red Front]

Scientists are important to economic progress also

But to dismiss capitalists as leaches is a very immature and uninformed opinion

entrepreneurs put the rubber of scientific discoveries to the road and make things go

In response to your claptrap that capitalists play a vital role in propelling scientific discoveries into practical applications.

The reality is that the capitalist system often stifles genuine innovation and is driven by short-term profitability rather than long-term societal benefits.

Capitalists, in their quest for profit, have been known to patent scientific discoveries, limiting the accessibility and further development of these innovations by others in the field. A broad example of this is the pharmaceutical industry. When a company patents a potentially life-saving drug, it can monopolize its distribution and pricing, often making it inaccessible to many who need it.

Moreover, capitalists, in their risk-averse nature, are known to avoid funding innovative research if it doesn't promise quick returns. This has led to crucial scientific inquiries, especially those with long-term societal implications, being left to government-funded institutions or philanthropic organizations. How can we argue that capitalism drives innovation when so much groundbreaking research is deemed "unprofitable"?

Furthermore, your point about entrepreneurs putting rubber on the road doesn't account for the negative externalities often produced by capitalist enterprises. While they may bring certain innovations to market, they also frequently disregard environmental, social, or ethical concerns in the pursuit of profit. A glaring example is the continued reliance on fossil fuels. Despite the clear evidence of their environmental impact and the availability of cleaner alternatives, capitalists in the fossil fuel industry have persistently lobbied against change, putting short-term profits over the planet's long-term health.

While you argue that dismissing capitalists as leeches is "immature" and "uninformed," there are nonetheless numerous examples of capitalist structures prioritizing profits over genuine societal advancement. A more equitable system, where innovations are pursued for the collective good rather than individual gain, will certainly lead to more sustainable and widespread progress.

Capitalism will eventually, in the not-too-distant future, be eliminated by advanced automation and artificial intelligence technology.

 

[LibertyKid]

It sounds like the United States, where you go to jail if you don't comply with the law.

What! Are you serious. You aren't in jail for your belief are you? Most communistic states, historically have imprisoned those that speak against the state. Period.

Socialists aren't really allowed to participate in the political process and life of this country, especially far-left communists. So what's good for the goose, is good for the gander.

This country has had it share of politically active socialists and communists. Not in Jail for that belief.

How about answering my questions now?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You need to wake up. Are you aware, that the internet used to be ARPANET? It was created by the US government for the Department Of Defense, DOD. Moreover, WIFI was first created by the University of Hawai, and funded by the US government.

"ALOHAnet, also known as the ALOHA System, or simply ALOHA, was a pioneering computer networking system developed at the University of Hawaii. The ALOHAnet used a new method of medium access, called ALOHA random access, and experimental ultra high frequency (UHF) for its operation."

"In the 1970s ALOHA random access was employed in the nascent Ethernet cable based network[16] and then in the Marisat (now Inmarsat) satellite network.[17]

In the early 1980s frequencies for mobile networks became available, and in 1985 frequencies suitable for what became known as Wi-Fi were allocated in the US.[18] These regulatory developments made it possible to use the ALOHA random-access techniques in both Wi-Fi and in mobile telephone networks."

Source: ALOHAnet - Wikipedia.

Following your silly line of reasoning, capitalists shouldn't use the internet.

Much of the technology that we use today and take for granted, was researched and developed in government labs or in universities that rely heavily on government research grants. Those are public funds or according to the definition of socialism offered by right-wing Republicans, that's socialism, You didn't know that? Apparently, you didn't. I can give you a very long list of technologies that were first developed by the government or through government funding (through socialism). Here are a few...

1946: MRIs​

These days, magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) is used to detect many potential health problems, from tumors to multiple sclerosis. But magnetic resonance was originally used to study atomic nuclei in 1946, and with the help of grants from the NSF from 1955 to 1990, the technology soon became a regular medical tool.

1949: Accelerometers​

Accelerometers are used to measure acceleration forces, often to find an object's position and track its movement. They have been made commercially since 1949, and even today, the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) continually makes and monitors them for use in cars, planes, pacemakers, and more.

1953: Supercomputers​

Largely a product used almost exclusively by national governments, the U.S. National Lab funded efforts to create supercomputers that could conduct nuclear research. IBM created the first commercial computer, called the 701, for defense purposes, and it was first used in 1953.

It’s Not Just the Internet: How Government Built the Computer Industry – Tech.pinions

techpinions.com

1951: First Nuclear Plants in the US:

Experimental Breeder Reactor-I (EBR-I)

Idaho National Laboratory | Experimental Breeder Reactor-I (EBR-I)

inl.gov

Nuclear Power in the USA - World Nuclear Association

The USA's reactors provide about 20% of its electricity. These have a high level of performance.

world-nuclear.org

No Uncle Sam, no nukes, no nuclear energy in America.

1958: Microchips​

The government first facilitated the mass production of microchips in the aftermath of World War II, while looking for small devices to assist personnel with missile targeting. These days, they're everywhere, from pet microchips to computer microchips.

1966: Autonomous robots​

From Roombas to the Mars Rover, auto robots play a big role in how modern society functions. They can trace their lineage back to Shakey the Robot, a DARPA-funded creation that is known as one of the seminal breakthroughs in artificial intelligence. The same technology has been applied to the everyday robot technology that consumers know today.

1992: Smartphones​

In the early 1990s, while working on mini cameras for spacecraft, NASA developed the image sensors that made smartphones, as well as webcams and digital single-lens reflex cameras, possible today. Then, University of Delaware researchers made touch screens using CIA and NSF funding, ultimately resulting in the refined phone technologies users have today.

1993: GPS​

In the 1970s, the Defense Department began working on creating a comprehensive satellite navigation system for national defense and scientific purposes. By 1993, a fully functional, 24-satellite system was primed to grow into the commercial GPS services that civilians also use today.

1998: Google​

Although this invention was somewhat inadvertent, the NSF funded the Digital Library Initiative to index websites in the early days of the Internet. The NSF and CIA went on to fund Stanford graduates Sergey Brin, who received an NSF student fellowship, and Larry Page's research to make an algorithm that ranks web pages by importance. By 1998, this became Google.

NO GOVERNMENT = NO GOOGLE!

1998: Touch screens​

With help from NSF fellowships and grants, researchers at the University of Delaware created what would become the touch screens people now use on tablets and smartphones. Doctoral student Wayne Westerman created the company FingerWorks, which was later purchased by Apple for their own devices.

2004: Self-driving cars

The first self-driving cars were used in 2004, after Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency director Anthony Tether offered a $1 million prize to anyone who could create a driverless car that could navigate a 142-mile course. This continued the next year, and while self-driving cars aren't yet totally approved, Teslas now come with autopilot and self-driving capability software.

2010: Tesla cars

Elon Musk's company has received an estimated $4.9 billion in government subsidies, aiding Tesla Motors Inc.'s production of cutting-edge automobile technology. Tesla first received a federal loan from the Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing Loan Program in 2010, just a year after the 2009 financial crisis.

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Do you know where the first mobile phone, working from a tower, like our current cell phones, was first invented and developed? The USSR. The Soviets created the first cell phone.

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"The Altai mobile telephone system is the pre-cellular 0G radiotelephone service that was first introduced in the Soviet Union in 1963, and became available in the most large cities by 1965. It is a fully automated UHF/VHF network that allows a mobile node to connect to a landline phones, and was originally conceived to serve government officials and emergency services, but has since spread into general use, and is still in use in some places, where its advantages outweigh those of conventional cellular networks. Work on the system of automatic duplex mobile communication started in 1958 in Voronezh Research Institute of Communications (VNIIS, now concern Sozvezdie). It was established subscriber stations and base stations for communicating with them.

Altai (mobile telephone system) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Lasers:

In 1964 Charles H. Townes, Nikolay Basov, and Aleksandr Prokhorov shared the Nobel Prize in Physics, "for fundamental work in the field of quantum electronics, which has led to the construction of oscillators and amplifiers based on the maser–laser principle".

The Soviets were advanced in laser technology. I can provide another list of Soviet inventions, like the Sattelite, the first space capsules, the first manned rockets, the first probes, the first spacecraft docking in space, the first, the first, the fist...the first airliners, the first blood banks, the first use of viruses to kill bacteria...etc

10 Greastest Inventions Made By The Soviet Union

Below are ten Soviet inventions that have had a particular impact on health sciences, space exploration, and technology in everyday life.

www.worldatlas.com

FOLLOWING YOUR LINE OF STUPID REASONING, THE CAPITALISTS CAN'T EVEN USE CELL PHONES!


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You have your head in the sand, like an ostrich. You're completely brainwashed by your capitalist masters.

The truth is that without the government, capitalists would have NOTHING. You wouldn't have money, because the USD is exclusively issued and backed by the US government. Socialism is the foundation of commerce, without it capitalism can't even function. You need courts, police, the military, laws, regulations, roads and bridges, electric grids, water sanitation, sewers, building codes..etc. You couldn't conduct business without socialism. You need the subsidies, the grants, bailouts, the loans, the contracts the tax breaks, the............. Without all of that capitalism collapses into societal chaos and civil war.

How much research and development is done by the government because greedy, fucking capitalists don't consider a product or service commercially viable or profitable?

Governments around the world often step in to fund research and development (R&D) in areas where the private sector (capitalists) might be hesitant due to concerns about profitability, high risks, or extended time horizons for returns on investment.

Examples of government-funded R&D:

• Space Exploration: Missions like the Apollo moon landings were funded by governments due to their high costs and uncertain direct commercial benefits.
• Health Research: Governments worldwide invest in medical research on diseases that might not be immediately profitable for pharmaceutical companies but have significant public health implications. The rapid development of COVID-19 vaccines was made possible in part due to significant government funding and coordination.
• Agriculture: Research into new crop varieties, sustainable farming techniques, and food security is often funded by governments to ensure national food security.

Wake up!​

Wow!
All those cool inventions in the USSR and it was still a shithole.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The government is even subsidizing EXXON and other big oil companies.

How?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What's your definition of success? According to right-wing Republicans, that would be Berlin. They're all commies according to American right-wingers.

Being constantly threatened with war, bombed, invaded, and economically embargoed by the US and its allies, also takes a heavy toll on countries that openly identify as having Marxist-socialist economies. Most nations just adopt socialist policies, without identifying themselves as socialist in order to avoid the wrath of the THE EMPIRE i.e. United States.

You lack critical reasoning, hence you assume that because material conditions didn't exist in the past to establish a modern, marketless, non-profit economy or system of production, those material requirements will NEVER exist. You're quite irrational Todd. Advanced 21st century automation technology and artificial intelligence, is the end of capitalism and the beginning of the socialist age.

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What's your definition of success?

What's yours? And where is the capital?

 

[Red Front]

Wow!
All those cool inventions in the USSR and it was still a shithole.

It wasn't a shithole. Only in a shit mind like yours was it a "shithole". This is a shithole:

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[Soupnazi630]

It wasn't a shithole. Only in a shit mind like yours was it a "shithole". This is a shithole:

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Yes it was.

The scenes in that video are from cities with left wing progressive leadership. Same results as the USSR

 

[Red Front]

What's your definition of success?

What's yours? And where is the capital?

You're the one asking me what I would identify as a "successful" socialist nation or capital city. What is your definition of success? Define your terms.

 

[Red Front]

How?

I already provided a long list of companies that are being subsidized on a yearly basis.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It wasn't a shithole. Only in a shit mind like yours was it a "shithole". This is a shithole:

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Commiefrisco is also a commie shithole.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You're the one asking me what I would identify as a "successful" socialist nation or capital city. What is your definition of success? Define your terms.

There are no successful commie countries today, are there?

 

[Red Front]

Commiefrisco is also a commie shithole.

I see, so now you're admitting that American liberals are "commies"? REALLY? Shit, you just dug your own hole in this friendly dialogue of ours. Commie Western Europe, is doing quite well huh? To answer your previous disingenuous, stupid question. Berlin, Germany. That's the commie city.

 

[Red Front]

There are no successful commie countries today, are there?

There are many, according to your metric of who is and isn't a "COMMIE".

 

[HikerGuy83]

Here in the US of course.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

There are many, according to your metric of who is and isn't a "COMMIE".

Not my metric, yours.

So, none?

Thanks!

 

[Red Front]

Not my metric, yours.

So, none?

Thanks!

I just answered your question. Do you know how to read shithead? If SanFran is commie, then Berlin and all of Western Europe is commie as well. You stupid Republican retards, throw the word "commie" and "socialist" around to demonize Dems because they're for many policies that are taken for granted in Western Europe. So all of Western Europe is COMMIE!