Did the USA do good to seize a Venezuelan oil tanker?

[scruffy]

The cocaine trade predates Maduro and has never been stopped by anyone despite the US spending trillions trying to do so.

Because of people like Maduro, who perpetuate it.

The only reason there is a cocaine trade is because the US is filled with customers wanting it.

Because it's cheap and easy to get. Because of people like Maduro.

There is no trade without someone willing to buy it

And someone willing to risk their life to get it here. No one's going to take that job for 500 bucks anymore.

 

[Norm Paperman]

No I also read reports from private journalist, and from the Nobel prize winning opposition leader there

What I am hearing from you is that you are grossly uninformed of what is happening in Venezuela…which is not surprising

I live in the region. I have investment property in Columbia and I am in the process of buying some in Guyana.

You know what the US media tells you and what the US government tells you.

The percent of people in the region that support the actions of the US is in single digits.

I know boat owners that are scared to take their boats out into the open sea as they do not wish to be added to the US kill count.

 

[Norm Paperman]

Because of people like Maduro, who perpetuate it.



Because it's cheap and easy to get. Because of people like Maduro.



And someone willing to risk their life to get it here. No one's going to take that job for 500 bucks anymore.

Maduro could not perpetuate it if the customers were not there to begin with.

 

[scruffy]

Maduro could not perpetuate it if the customers were not there to begin with.

Supply and demand. Make the product very expensive and the customers will vanish.

 

[struth]

I live in the region. I have investment property in Columbia and I am in the process of buying some in Guyana.

You know what the US media tells you and what the US government tells you.

The percent of people in the region that support the actions of the US is in single digits.

I know boat owners that are scared to take their boats out into the open sea as they do not wish to be added to the US kill count.

So Venezuela is doing just fine and it’s the United States that’s caused any issues there??? Hahahab

 

[Norm Paperman]

So Venezuela is doing just fine and it’s the United States that’s caused any issues there??? Hahahab

No, Venezuela is a mess and the US is just making it worse.

 

[struth]

No, Venezuela is a mess and the US is just making it worse.

By helping the nobel peace prize opposition leader?

Sure, I can understand that if you’re aligned with the leftist dictator there

 

[Norm Paperman]

Supply and demand. Make the product very expensive and the customers will vanish.

More than 80% of cocaine entering the US is from Columbia, not Venezuela

Peru and Bolivia now have large coca growing areas.

What the US is doing to Venezuela has nothing to do with drugs and everything to do with oil.

 

[Norm Paperman]

By helping the nobel peace prize opposition leader?

Sure, I can understand that if you’re aligned with the leftist dictator there

I am all for helping her, murdering people in international waters is not the way to do so

 

[struth]

I am all for helping her, murdering people in international waters is not the way to do so

I don’t disagree

But we aren’t doing that

Murder is an unlawful killing

Killing narconterrorist posing a threat to the United States is lawful

 

[ColonelAngus]

US hits Venezuela with new sanctions after Maduro’s ‘illegitimate’ inauguration​

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5079514-biden-venezuela-sanctions-maduro-inauguration-trump-dhs-tps/

******* BIDEN.

SO STALIN!

“The Biden administration announced a slew of new sanctions against allies of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro in opposition to his claim of election victory, calling his Friday inauguration “illegitimate” and a “desperate attempt to seize power.”


Lefties, push that camel through the eye of a needle.

WHEN BIDEN SANCTIONED VENEZUELA, IT WAS GOOD.

WHEN TRUMP ENFORCES THOSE SANCTIONS. IT IS BAD.



You people are out of your ******* minds.

 

[struth]

US hits Venezuela with new sanctions after Maduro’s ‘illegitimate’ inauguration​

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5079514-biden-venezuela-sanctions-maduro-inauguration-trump-dhs-tps/

******* BIDEN.

SO STALIN!

“The Biden administration announced a slew of new sanctions against allies of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro in opposition to his claim of election victory, calling his Friday inauguration “illegitimate” and a “desperate attempt to seize power.”


Lefties, push that camel through the eye of a needle.

WHEN BIDEN SANCTIONED VENEZUELA, IT WAS GOOD.

WHEN TRUMP ENFORCES THOSE SANCTIONS. IT IS BAD.



You people are out of your ******* minds.

They are dembots only doing what they are programmed to do

 

[Norm Paperman]

I don’t disagree

But we aren’t doing that

Murder is an unlawful killing

Killing narconterrorist posing a threat to the United States is lawful

It goes against international law. The US labeled them terrotist to make it “legal” to kill them.

The problem is they do not meet the definition of a terrorist.

 

[scruffy]

More than 80% of cocaine entering the US is from Columbia, not Venezuela

Peru and Bolivia now have large coca growing areas.

One cartel at a time.

What the US is doing to Venezuela has nothing to do with drugs and everything to do with oil.

Maybe. We'll know soon enough.

 

[DennisPTate]

Yes, now grab more tankers. Cut the socialist world off from Venezuelan oil, and cut Maduro off from funding his illegal regime.

If for nothing else, do it for the environment. Do it to prevent climate change. The black goo they produce is the most sulfur-laden eco-unfriendly oil being produced in the world today.

But, is it true that for the moment that only mega-scale desalination plants fueled by natural gas are the only hope of putting a comparable amount of H2O into the deserts as is cracking and sliding in big chunks off the LAND BASED Greenland Ice Sheets?

 

[struth]

It goes against international law. The US labeled them terrotist to make it “legal” to kill them.

The problem is they do not meet the definition of a terrorist.

No it doesn't , we have an absolute right to defend ourselves, including deadly force, from terrorist,

Of course they do, they have been designated terrorist organizations by our Govt, and even if not, they meet the defination. They engage in violence and criminal acts for political means. Moreover, they don't need to be terrorist for us to defend ourselves from them

Drug trafficking, however, does violate international law, not to mention narcoterrorism....hence why it's perfectly legal for a country to defend itself from their deadly attacks

 

[ColonelAngus]

Trump enforces Biden sanctions.


Somehow this turns into ORANGE MAN BAD.

******* lunatics.

 

[JWBooth]

Trump enforces Biden sanctions.


Somehow this turns into ORANGE MAN BAD.

******* lunatics.

Pokes a hole in the Trump was elected to undo the dotard's stupid shit argument.

 

[Norm Paperman]

Pokes a hole in the Trump was elected to undo the dotard's stupid shit argument.

Yep. It is fun to watch so many people on here point to Biden as a defense of Trump.

I have never witnessed anything like this

 

[struth]

Trump enforces Biden sanctions.


Somehow this turns into ORANGE MAN BAD.

******* lunatics.

Now these dembots like Norm Paperman have come out saying that countries have no legal right to do anything against narcoterrorist and they can traffic drugs whereever they want and countries can't do anything about it.

It's like they are paid agents of the Cartel de los Soles