Zone1 Did Jesus - Yeshua go to hell on behalf of all of us?

[DennisPTate]

Near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai was shown something kind of shocking about what was being accomplished by Messiah Yeshua - Jesus on behalf of you and I and all eight billion of us, while He was in "the heart of the earth," Sheol, the grave, "tasting death" on behalf of all of us.

I am of the belief that this is powerful evidence that the Love of our Creator, the Ancient of Days the Heavenly Father, was in Messiah Jesus - Yeshua at a level that we would have difficulty even beginning to imagine.

[Kevin L. Zadai]

THE DEPTHS OF VISITATION AND PRAYER: THE STEPS JESUS WENT THROUGH IN HELL​

Jesus relinquished His authority, power, and His will over to the Father and the Holy Spirit. He commended His Spirit to them all as He descended into the pit. To fulfill all that was required by justice, He had to go further into hell than any man will ever have to go. He had to go to the depths of hell in order to make redemption complete. During those days in hell, He rehearsed Psalm 16 to Himself, believing that the Father would give the command for the Holy Spirit to raise Him to life again.

Christ’s journey into hell and resurrection has made my spirit a brand-new being (see 2 Cor. 5:17).

Jesus went through everything we go through so that we can have authority and victory in this life.

THE AGREEMENT​

Jesus had an agreement with the Holy Spirit and with the Father about His activities from the time that He was born until the time that He ascended on high.

Because Jesus fulfilled all righteousness, we are therefore able to have victory without having to master situations. Remember that Jesus went before us as our High Priest. He paved the way for us to be successful in everything. He did what He did in the earth realm, and it causes you to walk in such a visitation. During prayer, because of visitation you will see your prayers immediately answered. That is because you are walking in His authority, operating the way He did while He was here on the earth.
Excerpt from Praying from the Heavenly Realms Chapter 20: The Depths of Visitation and Prayer: The Steps Jesus Went Through in Hell

The Depths of Visitation and Prayer: The Steps Jesus Went Through in Hell – Kevin Zadai

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Here is some more information about the near death experience of Kevin L. Zadai.

[Kevin L. Zadai] :

To Heaven And Back​

November 1, 2016/in Featured, Visitations/by Kevin L Zadai
In 1992, I went to Heaven and back. I was scheduled for a day surgery to extract my impacted wisdom teeth. Instead, I went to heaven and back. In a prep room, I was sedated and told to count backwards from 100. I didn’t get very far before I became unconscious. Abruptly, I was outside my body and standing beside the operating table, watching the surgeon and his two assistants work.

I had no idea I was going to heaven and back, but when I realized that I had passed on, I wanted to inform the doctor, but to no avail: I could no longer communicate with the earthly realm. As I waited in the operating room, I witnessed my body on the table begin to glow with a glistening white light. Suddenly, my body was transformed into what was perfection to me. I looked like an angel. My face looked like me but was so bright and perfect. I thought, I look beautiful. Then I heard a man’s voice from behind me, “That’s what you look like to Me all the time!” I turned around and that was when I saw Him.

Jesus is the most handsome King upon whom I have ever laid my eyes. He wore a beautiful, full-length robe and was about 5’ 10” tall. He had long hair resembling a lion’s mane. His eyes were so deep and full of destiny. His presence demanded my attention as I stood in adoration.

Then, He began to teach me how the supernatural realm works. He said words are of utmost importance to the operation of the realm of the supernatural. He explained how the supernatural realm responds to me when I speak by the Holy Spirit with an authority and faith born from the Spirit’s revelation and not from my own understanding, producing what is called a faith rest.

Jesus taught me that the single most important thing I could do to participate in the supernatural realm was to pray in tongues. He told me that praying in tongues would lead me into my destiny and into situations where I would increase financially instead of decreasing; that I would have appointments and not disappointments because there are no disappointments in Heaven. Jesus said, “The Holy Spirit doesn’t know ‘defeat’,” and I should yield to Him continually.

Jesus asked me to turn and again look at my body as it lay on the operating table, still in its glorified state. What I saw astounded me. A black vest covered the area from my chest to my stomach. I immediately understood that the black area was my soul. The soul is the center of the will and emotions and connects directly to the mind. Jesus pointed out that my darkened soul was obscuring my beauty, covering my beautiful, glorified body.

In a flash, Jesus took me to the table to see the black vest up close. It was made up of untrue words that had been spoken over me. He explained, “This is a lifetime of words spoken against you, and they continue to affect you.” With a wave of His hand, a panoramic view like a large screen appeared, and He began to show me the occasions when those words were spoken. The pain created by those incidents welled up as I relived them in fast succession. It wasn’t long before I began to cry as each incident increased my grief.

At this point, Jesus stopped the review. He said, “I did not show you this to upset you, but only to reveal to you that the hurt is still there.” He added, “We need to deal with the hurt caused by these words. They are affecting you.” Jesus wanted to show me the contrast between the beauty of my spirit man and my damaged soul. Hurtful words of the past were obscuring who I really was. Many of the people who spoke those damaging things did not understand they were not speaking the truth and were hindering my God-ordained destiny. In a sense, without intending to, they were speaking the enemy’s intentions over me. I believe everyone has similar hurts that need healing.

We live by our words
Jesus focused on the effects that words have on our lives, both good and bad. He then revealed to me the four ways that He heals our souls:

1. Jesus can wave His hand over a person’s chest (soul) and heal them immediately.
2. We can listen to the truth, continually renewing our minds until the lies we have believed about ourselves are replaced with the truth.
3. We can pray in the Holy Spirit until our inner (spirit) man becomes so powerful that he overthrows the soul with its mind, will, and emotions and becomes the dominant influence.
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To Heaven And Back – Kevin Zadai

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Messiah Yeshua - Jesus made it clear that those three days were the most important sign that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus was Messiah the Passover Lamb, Moshiach ben David / Messiah Son of David.

The Scribes and Pharisees Ask for a Sign
38Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered, saying, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from You.”
39But He answered and said to them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. 41The men of Nineveh will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, because they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and indeed a greater than Jonah is here. 42The queen of the South will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and indeed a greater than Solomon is here.
[Matthew 12]

Matthew 12 | NKJV Bible | YouVersion

Jesus Is Lord of the SabbathAt that time #Mark 2:23; Luke 6:1–5Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. And His disciples were hungry, and began to #Deut. 23:25pluck heads of grain and

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Videos – Kevin Zadai

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This analysis of the future for this world and specifically for the USA from August 11, 2020 sure does have a lot of interesting insights. I like how Kevin Zadai explains how our prayers and our decisions and our actions can have a positive effect on how events work out.

 

[Crepitus]

Near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai was shown something kind of shocking about what was being accomplished by Messiah Yeshua - Jesus on behalf of you and I and all eight billion of us, while He was in "the heart of the earth," Sheol, the grave, "tasting death" on behalf of all of us.

I am of the belief that this is powerful evidence that the Love of our Creator, the Ancient of Days the Heavenly Father, was in Messiah Jesus - Yeshua at a level that we would have difficulty even beginning to imagine.






Here is some more information about the near death experience of Kevin L. Zadai.



Messiah Yeshua - Jesus made it clear that those three days were the most important sign that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus was Messiah the Passover Lamb, Moshiach ben David / Messiah Son of David.

Videos – Kevin Zadai

kevinzadai.com

This analysis of the future for this world and specifically for the USA from August 11, 2020 sure does have a lot of interesting insights. I like how Kevin Zadai explains how our prayers and our decisions and our actions can have a positive effect on how events work out.

why the question? I thought that was the whole new testament premise.

 

[Hafar1014]

Near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai was shown something kind of shocking about what was being accomplished by Messiah Yeshua - Jesus on behalf of you and I and all eight billion of us, while He was in "the heart of the earth," Sheol, the grave, "tasting death" on behalf of all of us.

I am of the belief that this is powerful evidence that the Love of our Creator, the Ancient of Days the Heavenly Father, was in Messiah Jesus - Yeshua at a level that we would have difficulty even beginning to imagine.






Here is some more information about the near death experience of Kevin L. Zadai.



Messiah Yeshua - Jesus made it clear that those three days were the most important sign that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus was Messiah the Passover Lamb, Moshiach ben David / Messiah Son of David.

Videos – Kevin Zadai

kevinzadai.com

This analysis of the future for this world and specifically for the USA from August 11, 2020 sure does have a lot of interesting insights. I like how Kevin Zadai explains how our prayers and our decisions and our actions can have a positive effect on how events work out.

This is total bull shit. The afterlife is not sectarian and Jesus wont be there. Before Jesus we all went to the afterlife no Jesus was needed.

 

[DennisPTate]

This is total bull shit. The afterlife is not sectarian and Jesus wont be there. Before Jesus we all went to the afterlife no Jesus was needed.

But the wording of Isaiah 53 as it is translated from the original Hebrew does leave all of us with some questions that could be answered by these details?

YESHAYAH 53​

1Who hath believed our report?
And to whom is the Zero'a Hashem revealed?
2For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant,
and as a Shoresh (Root, Shoresh Yishai, Moshiach Ben Dovid) out of a dry ground;
he hath no form nor comeliness;
and when we shall see him,
there is no beauty that we should desire him.
3He is despised and chadal ishim (rejected by men);
a man of sorrows, and acquainted with suffering;
and we hid as it were our faces from him;
he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4Surely he hath borne our sufferings,
and nasah (carried) our sorrows;
yet we did esteem him stricken,
smitten of G-d, and afflicted.
5But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was bruised mei'avonoteinu (for our iniquities);
the musar (chastisement) that brought us shalom was upon him [Moshiach];
and at the cost of his [Moshiachʼs] chaburah (stripes, lacerations) we are healed.
6All we like sheep have gone astray;
we have turned every one to his own derech (way);
and Hashem hath laid on him
the avon (iniquity, the guilt that separates from G-d) of us all.

7He was oppressed, and he was afflicted,
yet he opened not his mouth;
he is brought as a seh (lamb) to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb,
so he openeth not his mouth.
8He was taken from prison and from judgment;
and who of his generation declared?
For he was cut off out of Eretz Chayyim
mipesha ami (for the transgression of my people [Yisroel]),
nega (plague) lamo ([fell] on him).
9And he made his kever (grave) with the resha'im,
and with the oisher (rich man) bemotayv (in his deaths, intensive plural should be translated singular, death);
because he had done no chamas (violence),
neither was any mirmah (deceit) in his mouth.

10Yet it pleased Hashem to bruise him;
He hath put him to suffering;
when Thou shalt make his nefesh an asham offering for sin,
he (Moshiach) shall see zera,
He shall prolong his yamim (days)
and the chefetz Hashem (pleasure, will of Hashem) shall prosper in his hand.
11He shall see of the travail of his nefesh, and shall be satisfied;
by knowledge of him
shall Tzadik Avdi (My Righteous Servant) justify many;
for he shall bear their avon (iniquities).
12Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great,
and he shall divide the spoil with the strong;
because he hath poured out his nefesh unto mavet (death);
and he was numbered with the transgressors;
and he nasah (bore) [like the Yom Kippur scapegoat] the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors.
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Yeshayah 53: TOJB2011

 

[DennisPTate]

why the question? I thought that was the whole new testament premise.

You are absolutely correct, I only used the question to make the point that certain bits and pieces of the puzzle can be rather new to us and be somewhat offensive. I did know of this general idea since I was a teenager but the specific details that were shown to near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai did somewhat surprise me, [although I admit that I probably should not have been surprised at all].

For instance I did NOT know that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus was repeating Psalm 16 while He was in the grave.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai was shown something kind of shocking about what was being accomplished by Messiah Yeshua - Jesus on behalf of you and I and all eight billion of us, while He was in "the heart of the earth," Sheol, the grave, "tasting death" on behalf of all of us.

I am of the belief that this is powerful evidence that the Love of our Creator, the Ancient of Days the Heavenly Father, was in Messiah Jesus - Yeshua at a level that we would have difficulty even beginning to imagine.






Here is some more information about the near death experience of Kevin L. Zadai.



Messiah Yeshua - Jesus made it clear that those three days were the most important sign that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus was Messiah the Passover Lamb, Moshiach ben David / Messiah Son of David.

Videos – Kevin Zadai

kevinzadai.com

This analysis of the future for this world and specifically for the USA from August 11, 2020 sure does have a lot of interesting insights. I like how Kevin Zadai explains how our prayers and our decisions and our actions can have a positive effect on how events work out.

Just as Revealing as Getting the Facts Wrong

Anyone who pretends to be educated by writing "on behalf of you and I" should go to Grammatical Gehenna for being too lazy and sure of himself to bother learning the rules about pronouns being changed by their structure in the sentence.

 

[onefour1]

Well, one can argue that Jesus coming to this world was a kind of hell seeing that he, being without sin, was persecuted and suffered death. But Jesus upon dying on the cross went among the spirits of the dead to preach his gospel.

1 Peter 3:18-20
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

1 Peter 4:6
6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

Upon Jesus' death but before his resurrection, he went among the spirit of those who have died and set up his gospel among them. So this would mean that after death, mankind still has the opportunity to hear the gospel and accept it. For this reason the doctrine of baptism for the dead and other ordinances are preformed for the dead so that they can enter the kingdom of heaven.

John 3:5
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

In the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, revelation has been received regarding this whole issue of what Jesus did after death but before his resurrection and it can be found at Doctrine and Covenants 138.

 

[DennisPTate]

Just as Revealing as Getting the Facts Wrong

Anyone who pretends to be educated by writing "on behalf of you and I" should go to Grammatical Gehenna for being too lazy and sure of himself to bother learning the rules about pronouns being changed by their structure in the sentence.

Well... I guess that there is no hope for me if being bad at grammar and spelling can get us into the scary afterlife dimensions.

 

[DennisPTate]

Well, one can argue that Jesus coming to this world was a kind of hell seeing that he, being without sin, was persecuted and suffered death. But Jesus upon dying on the cross went among the spirits of the dead to preach his gospel.

1 Peter 3:18-20
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

1 Peter 4:6
6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

Upon Jesus' death but before his resurrection, he went among the spirit of those who have died and set up his gospel among them. So this would mean that after death, mankind still has the opportunity to hear the gospel and accept it. For this reason the doctrine of baptism for the dead and other ordinances are preformed for the dead so that they can enter the kingdom of heaven.

John 3:5
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

In the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, revelation has been received regarding this whole issue of what Jesus did after death but before his resurrection and it can be found at Doctrine and Covenants 138.

Very interesting onefour1. I certainly do hope that the Latter day Saints are correct about the idea of the dead being able to learn and progress in the afterlife.

The Postmortal Spirit World
“Chapter 41: The Postmortal Spirit World,” Gospel Principles (2011), 240–44

The spirits are classified according to the purity of their lives and their obedience to the will of the Lord while on earth. The righteous and the wicked are separated (see 1 Nephi 15:28–30), but the spirits may progress as they learn gospel principles and live in accordance with them. The spirits in paradise can teach the spirits in prison (see D&C 138).

Chapter 41: The Postmortal Spirit World

Chapter 41: The Postmortal Spirit World

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[onefour1]

Very interesting onefour1. I certainly do hope that the Latter day Saints are correct about the idea of the dead being able to learn and progress in the afterlife.

From my point of view, it only seems fair that the Lord would first allow all mankind the opportunity to hear the gospel and have a chance of accepting it or rejecting before pronouncing eternal judgment upon them. We know that there have been many who in this life have not had the chance to receive the gospel and have died. If Jesus truly loves all mankind, he would make every effort for all mankind to have the opportunity to be saved into his kingdom. We see that this is taught even in the Bible by the apostle Peter and that this is not just a teaching of the LDS church. Why teach the gospel to the dead spirits if they have not way of accepting his teachings or being saved? God is good and God is fair.

 

[task0778]

Are there references in the Bible that specifically say Jesus was condemned to Hell? I'm not even sure there are specific references in the Bible that Hell exists. My personal belief is that it does not; those who believe in Jesus will be risen to Heaven but those who don't are not. They just stay dead.

 

[DennisPTate]

Are there references in the Bible that specifically say Jesus was condemned to Hell? I'm not even sure there are specific references in the Bible that Hell exists. My personal belief is that it does not; those who believe in Jesus will be risen to Heaven but those who don't are not. They just stay dead.

That is an excellent question. The Hebrew word Sheol, comes up quite a few times in the Jewish Bible and what is said about this "realm of the dead" is pretty interesting.

Isaiah 14 writes things about Sheol that are intriguing indeed, because this seems to be talking about the guy who will be the personification of the "Anti-Christ" person of the Book of Revelation?

I am of the belief that the full truth about Sheol, and the meaning of that word, can be used to set in motion a massive Spiritual Awakening even among Drug Cartel leaders and their enforcers?

9“Hell from beneath is excited about you,
To meet you at your coming;
It stirs up the dead for you,
All the chief ones of the earth;
It has raised up from their thrones
All the kings of the nations.
10They all shall speak and say to you:
‘Have you also become as weak as we?
Have you become like us?
11Your pomp is brought down to Sheol,
And the sound of your stringed instruments;
The maggot is spread under you,
And worms cover you.’
The Fall of Lucifer
12“How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
13For you have said in your heart:
‘I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.’
15Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol,
To the lowest depths of the Pit.
16“Those who see you will gaze at you,
And consider you, saying:
‘Is this the man who made the earth tremble,
Who shook kingdoms,
17Who made the world as a wilderness
And destroyed its cities,
Who did not open the house of his prisoners?’
18“All the kings of the nations,
All of them, sleep in glory,
Everyone in his own house;
19But you are cast out of your grave
Like an abominable branch,
Like the garment of those who are slain,
Thrust through with a sword,
Who go down to the stones of the pit,
Like a corpse trodden underfoot.
20You will not be joined with them in burial,
Because you have destroyed your land
And slain your people.
The brood of evildoers shall never be named.
21Prepare slaughter for his children
Because of the iniquity of their fathers,
Lest they rise up and possess the land,
And fill the face of the world with cities.”
Babylon Destroyed
22“For I will rise up against them,” says the Lord of hosts,
“And cut off from Babylon the name and remnant,
And offspring and posterity,” says the Lord.
23“I will also make it a possession for the porcupine,
And marshes of muddy water;

Isaiah 14 | NKJV Bible | YouVersion

Mercy on JacobFor the Lord #Ps. 102:13; Is. 49:13, 15; 54:7, 8will have mercy on Jacob, and #Is. 41:8, 9; Zech. 1:17; 2:12will still choose Israel, and settle them in their own land. #Is. 60:4, 5, 10

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[DennisPTate]

From my point of view, it only seems fair that the Lord would first allow all mankind the opportunity to hear the gospel and have a chance of accepting it or rejecting before pronouncing eternal judgment upon them. We know that there have been many who in this life have not had the chance to receive the gospel and have died. If Jesus truly loves all mankind, he would make every effort for all mankind to have the opportunity to be saved into his kingdom. We see that this is taught even in the Bible by the apostle Peter and that this is not just a teaching of the LDS church. Why teach the gospel to the dead spirits if they have not way of accepting his teachings or being saved? God is good and God is fair.

Do you know where to find the specific teachings that you Latter day Saints have regarding specifically what Messiah Yeshua - Jesus did and experienced while he was in Sheol, the grave, the "heart of the earth" when he fulfilled the type set in motion by the Prophet Jonah?

I have a suggestion for all Latter day Saints....
near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai and his friend and Dean of Students Dr. Mike Cowen, have done up an online Degree or Diploma in "Chaplaincy." An official Degree in Diplomacy from an Evangelical Christian church might just be very useful to many Latter day Saints, [especially after they have already finished their two years as an Elder or Sister doing missionary work?

www.KevinZadai.org/

Warrior Notes School of Ministry

Dr. Kevin Zadai welcomes you to the Warrior Notes School of Ministry. Our mission is to equip you to go to the next level in God and empower you to fulfill your destiny.

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Chaplaincy Courses

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Program Overview
The Bachelor’s in Chaplaincy & Divinity is designed for those called to walk with people through life’s most meaningful and most difficult moments. At a time when communities, institutions, and individuals are seeking spiritual care beyond traditional church settings, chaplaincy has become an essential and expanding ministry role.

This program combines theological depth with hands-on preparation, equipping students to serve with wisdom, discernment, and compassion in real-world ministry environments. Chaplaincy is not theoretical work—it requires presence, emotional intelligence, spiritual maturity, and the ability to respond wisely in moments of crisis, grief, trauma, and transition. This degree is intentionally structured to prepare students for that responsibility.

*For more information on how to earn a degree, including a breakdown of credit hours, visit our How to Earn Your Degree page.

Program Focus
The Bachelor’s in Chaplaincy & Divinity integrates multiple areas of study, including:

Biblical and theological foundations
Ministry and leadership training
Applied chaplaincy formation
Graduates are prepared for chaplaincy service across a wide range of environments, including healthcare, first responder support, churches, schools, community organizations, and other public and private settings. The program emphasizes ministry that extends beyond the pulpit—equipping chaplains to meet people where they are, often in moments when traditional ministry is not accessible.

Chaplaincy Courses
The Chaplaincy Courses below focus specifically on the calling, character, and competencies required for effective chaplaincy. These courses emphasize presence, discernment, ethical care, crisis response, trauma awareness, and practical ministry skills. They are designed to prepare students for the relational and spiritual demands of chaplaincy service while maintaining clear boundaries and professional responsibility.

*NOTE: The Chaplaincy Courses are one component of the Bachelor’s in Chaplaincy & Divinity program. In addition to these courses, the degree includes further required coursework in theology, ministry foundations, and divinity studies to ensure a well-rounded and comprehensive academic experience.

Of course I am sure that Brigham Young University offers a similar program but in the interest of reaching out to other Christians I believe that the courses by Warrior Notes School of Ministry might just be especially useful in the career path plus missionary goals, of many Latter day Saints.

 

[onefour1]

Do you know where to find the specific teachings that you Latter day Saints have regarding specifically what Messiah Yeshua - Jesus did and experienced while he was in Sheol, the grave, the "heart of the earth" when he fulfilled the type set in motion by the Prophet Jonah?

As mentioned before, the revelation we've received regarding Jesus setting up the teaching of the gospel among the dead is this:

Section 138

A vision given to President Joseph F. Smith in Salt Lake City, Utah, on October 3, 1918. In his opening address at the 89th Semiannual General Conference of the Church, on October 4, 1918, President Smith declared that he had received several divine communications during the previous months. One of these, concerning the Savior’s visit to the spirits of the dead while His body was in the tomb, President Smith had received the previous day. It was written immediately following the close of the conference. On October 31, 1918, it was submitted to the counselors in the First Presidency, the Council of the Twelve, and the Patriarch, and it was unanimously accepted by them.

1–10, President Joseph F. Smith ponders upon the writings of Peter and our Lord’s visit to the spirit world; 11–24, President Smith sees the righteous dead assembled in paradise and Christ’s ministry among them; 25–37, He sees how the preaching of the gospel was organized among the spirits; 38–52, He sees Adam, Eve, and many of the holy prophets in the spirit world who considered their spirit state before their resurrection as a bondage; 53–60, The righteous dead of this day continue their labors in the world of spirits.

1 On the third of October, in the year nineteen hundred and eighteen, I sat in my room pondering over the scriptures;

2 And reflecting upon the great atoning sacrifice that was made by the Son of God, for the redemption of the world;

3 And the great and wonderful love made manifest by the Father and the Son in the coming of the Redeemer into the world;

4 That through his atonement, and by obedience to the principles of the gospel, mankind might be saved.

5 While I was thus engaged, my mind reverted to the writings of the apostle Peter, to the primitive saints scattered abroad throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, and other parts of Asia, where the gospel had been preached after the crucifixion of the Lord.

6 I opened the Bible and read the third and fourth chapters of the first epistle of Peter, and as I read I was greatly impressed, more than I had ever been before, with the following passages:

7 “For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

8 “By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

9 “Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.” (1 Peter 3:18–20.)

10 “For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.” (1 Peter 4:6.)

11 As I pondered over these things which are written, the eyes of my understanding were opened, and the Spirit of the Lord rested upon me, and I saw the hosts of the dead, both small and great.

12 And there were gathered together in one place an innumerable company of the spirits of the just, who had been faithful in the testimony of Jesus while they lived in mortality;

13 And who had offered sacrifice in the similitude of the great sacrifice of the Son of God, and had suffered tribulation in their Redeemer’s name.

14 All these had departed the mortal life, firm in the hope of a glorious resurrection, through the grace of God the Father and his Only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ.

15 I beheld that they were filled with joy and gladness, and were rejoicing together because the day of their deliverance was at hand.

16 They were assembled awaiting the advent of the Son of God into the spirit world, to declare their redemption from the bands of death.

17 Their sleeping dust was to be restored unto its perfect frame, bone to his bone, and the sinews and the flesh upon them, the spirit and the body to be united never again to be divided, that they might receive a fulness of joy.

18 While this vast multitude waited and conversed, rejoicing in the hour of their deliverance from the chains of death, the Son of God appeared, declaring liberty to the captives who had been faithful;

19 And there he preached to them the everlasting gospel, the doctrine of the resurrection and the redemption of mankind from the fall, and from individual sins on conditions of repentance.

20 But unto the wicked he did not go, and among the ungodly and the unrepentant who had defiled themselves while in the flesh, his voice was not raised;

21 Neither did the rebellious who rejected the testimonies and the warnings of the ancient prophets behold his presence, nor look upon his face.

22 Where these were, darkness reigned, but among the righteous there was peace;

23 And the saints rejoiced in their redemption, and bowed the knee and acknowledged the Son of God as their Redeemer and Deliverer from death and the chains of hell.

24 Their countenances shone, and the radiance from the presence of the Lord rested upon them, and they sang praises unto his holy name.

25 I marveled, for I understood that the Savior spent about three years in his ministry among the Jews and those of the house of Israel, endeavoring to teach them the everlasting gospel and call them unto repentance;

26 And yet, notwithstanding his mighty works, and miracles, and proclamation of the truth, in great power and authority, there were but few who hearkened to his voice, and rejoiced in his presence, and received salvation at his hands.

27 But his ministry among those who were dead was limited to the brief time intervening between the crucifixion and his resurrection;

28 And I wondered at the words of Peter—wherein he said that the Son of God preached unto the spirits in prison, who sometime were disobedient, when once the long-suffering of God waited in the days of Noah—and how it was possible for him to preach to those spirits and perform the necessary labor among them in so short a time.

29 And as I wondered, my eyes were opened, and my understanding quickened, and I perceived that the Lord went not in person among the wicked and the disobedient who had rejected the truth, to teach them;

30 But behold, from among the righteous, he organized his forces and appointed messengers, clothed with power and authority, and commissioned them to go forth and carry the light of the gospel to them that were in darkness, even to all the spirits of men; and thus was the gospel preached to the dead.

31 And the chosen messengers went forth to declare the acceptable day of the Lord and proclaim liberty to the captives who were bound, even unto all who would repent of their sins and receive the gospel.

32 Thus was the gospel preached to those who had died in their sins, without a knowledge of the truth, or in transgression, having rejected the prophets.

33 These were taught faith in God, repentance from sin, vicarious baptism for the remission of sins, the gift of the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands,

34 And all other principles of the gospel that were necessary for them to know in order to qualify themselves that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

35 And so it was made known among the dead, both small and great, the unrighteous as well as the faithful, that redemption had been wrought through the sacrifice of the Son of God upon the cross.

36 Thus was it made known that our Redeemer spent his time during his sojourn in the world of spirits, instructing and preparing the faithful spirits of the prophets who had testified of him in the flesh;

37 That they might carry the message of redemption unto all the dead, unto whom he could not go personally, because of their rebellion and transgression, that they through the ministration of his servants might also hear his words.

38 Among the great and mighty ones who were assembled in this vast congregation of the righteous were Father Adam, the Ancient of Days and father of all,

39 And our glorious Mother Eve, with many of her faithful daughters who had lived through the ages and worshiped the true and living God.

40 Abel, the first martyr, was there, and his brother Seth, one of the mighty ones, who was in the express image of his father, Adam.

41 Noah, who gave warning of the flood; Shem, the great high priest; Abraham, the father of the faithful; Isaac, Jacob, and Moses, the great law-giver of Israel;

42 And Isaiah, who declared by prophecy that the Redeemer was anointed to bind up the broken-hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that were bound, were also there.

43 Moreover, Ezekiel, who was shown in vision the great valley of dry bones, which were to be clothed upon with flesh, to come forth again in the resurrection of the dead, living souls;

44 Daniel, who foresaw and foretold the establishment of the kingdom of God in the latter days, never again to be destroyed nor given to other people;

45 Elias, who was with Moses on the Mount of Transfiguration;

46 And Malachi, the prophet who testified of the coming of Elijah—of whom also Moroni spake to the Prophet Joseph Smith, declaring that he should come before the ushering in of the great and dreadful day of the Lord—were also there.

47 The Prophet Elijah was to plant in the hearts of the children the promises made to their fathers,

48 Foreshadowing the great work to be done in the temples of the Lord in the dispensation of the fulness of times, for the redemption of the dead, and the sealing of the children to their parents, lest the whole earth be smitten with a curse and utterly wasted at his coming.

49 All these and many more, even the prophets who dwelt among the Nephites and testified of the coming of the Son of God, mingled in the vast assembly and waited for their deliverance,

50 For the dead had looked upon the long absence of their spirits from their bodies as a bondage.

51 These the Lord taught, and gave them power to come forth, after his resurrection from the dead, to enter into his Father’s kingdom, there to be crowned with immortality and eternal life,

52 And continue thenceforth their labor as had been promised by the Lord, and be partakers of all blessings which were held in reserve for them that love him.

53 The Prophet Joseph Smith, and my father, Hyrum Smith, Brigham Young, John Taylor, Wilford Woodruff, and other choice spirits who were reserved to come forth in the fulness of times to take part in laying the foundations of the great latter-day work,

54 Including the building of the temples and the performance of ordinances therein for the redemption of the dead, were also in the spirit world.

55 I observed that they were also among the noble and great ones who were chosen in the beginning to be rulers in the Church of God.

56 Even before they were born, they, with many others, received their first lessons in the world of spirits and were prepared to come forth in the due time of the Lord to labor in his vineyard for the salvation of the souls of men.

57 I beheld that the faithful elders of this dispensation, when they depart from mortal life, continue their labors in the preaching of the gospel of repentance and redemption, through the sacrifice of the Only Begotten Son of God, among those who are in darkness and under the bondage of sin in the great world of the spirits of the dead.

58 The dead who repent will be redeemed, through obedience to the ordinances of the house of God,

59 And after they have paid the penalty of their transgressions, and are washed clean, shall receive a reward according to their works, for they are heirs of salvation.

60 Thus was the vision of the redemption of the dead revealed to me, and I bear record, and I know that this record is true, through the blessing of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, even so. Amen.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Well... I guess that there is no hope for me if being bad at grammar and spelling can get us into the scary afterlife dimensions.

Diplomas for Dumbos

Blowhards are being dishonest about it, pretending that college graduates' pathetic attempts at sounding grammatical don't prove that college "education" is a fraud, but instead that their degrees (of separation from real learning) make them entitled to change grammar any way they want to. Some of worst made-up grammar comes from English majors.

 

[DennisPTate]

Diplomas for Dumbos

Blowhards are being dishonest about it, pretending that college graduates' pathetic attempts at sounding grammatical don't prove that college "education" is a fraud, but instead that their degrees (of separation from real learning) make them entitled to change grammar any way they want to. Some of worst made-up grammar comes from English majors.

I really liked some of the new words that President George W. Bush created out of thin air. "Mis-underestimated" was one of the best new words that I have ever heard!

 

[Woodznutz]

From my point of view, it only seems fair that the Lord would first allow all mankind the opportunity to hear the gospel and have a chance of accepting it or rejecting before pronouncing eternal judgment upon them. We know that there have been many who in this life have not had the chance to receive the gospel and have died. If Jesus truly loves all mankind, he would make every effort for all mankind to have the opportunity to be saved into his kingdom. We see that this is taught even in the Bible by the apostle Peter and that this is not just a teaching of the LDS church. Why teach the gospel to the dead spirits if they have not way of accepting his teachings or being saved? God is good and God is fair.

Everyone not saved will get a crack at it in the White Throne judgment period of the millennium.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I really liked some of the new words that President George W. Bush created out of thin air. "Mis-underestimated" was one of the best new words that I have ever heard!

Anyone Born with a Silver Spoon in His Mouth Will Always Speak with a Forked Tongue

 

[DennisPTate]

Anyone Born with a Silver Spoon in His Mouth Will Always Speak with a Forked Tongue

Yes, it is a sad thing but I am glad that I had to struggle throughout my life. I have friends who walked away from management and a white collar job due to the psychological games and at least partial deception that they saw there.

I am listening to an audio book in the background right now that seems to proceed from a true heart. Some people might think that this is sufficiently generated by A. I. but I believe that this is by a many who had a profound spiritual experience, similar to what happened to Kevin L. Zadai.

My Walk With Jesus audio | 44 Hours In Heaven

www.44hoursinheavenministries.org