DHS confirms illegal “Maryland Man” is a human smuggler.

[otto105]

Go look at the evidence released by Pam Bondi.

Thanks for playing.

She has nothing that hasn't been debunked already.

 

[TemplarKormac]

The law states that the Maryland Man was to have due process, do you support that law?

I have stated he needs to have his due process observed, I do not however dispute the evidence against him.

He is a piece of trash, but his due process was not observed.

 

[TemplarKormac]

YOu're just ignoring it.

"Uh huh, sure kid."

Is not an argument. Try again.

 

[Crepitus]

"Uh huh, sure kid."

Is not an argument. Try again.

Nope, that was me throwing up my hands in disgust and walking away for your dense ass.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Nope, that was me throwing up my hands in disgust and walking away for your dense ass.

Then walk away, because you aren't convincing me. I will defend his due process rights, but nothing else. He is a piece of filth, were it not for his due process, I would favor him being put in CECOT. But since I'm not that kind of person, I will support his due process rights nonetheless.

Not much for nuanced opinions, are you?

 

[otto105]

I have stated he needs to have his due process observed, I do not however dispute the evidence against him.

He is a piece of trash, but his due process was not observed.

So, just a cult member as the evidence against him is nonexistent.

 

[TemplarKormac]

So, just a cult member as the evidence against him is nonexistent.

Yeah, you go with that. Chequeo would love it.

 

[otto105]

Yeah, you go with that. Chequeo would love it.

Hilarious

 

[EvilCat Breath]

That's disturbing.

So now we dispense with the Constitution now because there is a perceived "end"?

Gosh. Nobody respects the law anymore, and that's very sad.

It's not dispensing with the Constitution. The Constitution is no longer applicable.

John Adams said that the Constitution was written for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inappropriate for any other. Ben Franklin said this

Closing Speech at the Constitutional Convention (1787) | Constitution Center

National Constitution Center Historic Documents Library record for Closing Speech at the Constitutional Convention (1787)

constitutioncenter.org

Sir, I agree to this Constitution, with all its Faults, if they are such: because I think a General Government necessary for us, and there is no Form of Government but what may be a Blessing to the People if well administred; and I believe farther that this is likely to be well administred for a Course of Years, and can only end in Despotism as other Forms have done before it, when the People shall become so corrupted as to need Despotic Government, being incapable of any other.

We have reached the end of what they knew would happen. Only a people capable of responsibility can have freedom. Anything else is a jungle with license.

 

[TemplarKormac]

John Adams said that the Constitution was written for a moral and religious people

But if we are the moral and religious, the Constitution does not end. It ends when everyone ceases to be religious and moral.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

But if we are the moral and religious, the Constitution does not end. It ends when everyone ceases to be religious and moral.

We are no longer either a moral or religious. The applicability of the Constitution doesn't end when all of the people are immoral anti religious nut jobs. A minority accepted by the majority will do just fine.

 

[TemplarKormac]

We are no longer either a moral or religious. The applicability of the Constitution doesn't end when all of the people are immoral anti religious nut jobs. A minority accepted by the majority will do just fine.

Wait, so you and I don't qualify as "moral" or "religious?"

I find that hard to believe.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Wait, so you and I don't qualify as "moral" or "religious?"not

I find that hard to believe.

You could well be both moral and religious. So could I. But if 500 people are Tesla vandals, or trans men using sports to beat up women, or child predators calling themselves caring advocates and those 500 are accepted by 2,000 more it doesn't matter how moral or religious we are.

We are devolving into a tyranny of criminals who are supported by a social, legal and legislative system. There is no place there for the constitution. It's not that it's wrong. It's inapplicable.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You could well be both moral and religious. So could I. But if 500 people are Tesla vandals, or trans men using sports to beat up women, or child predators calling themselves caring advocates and those 500 are accepted by 2,000 more it doesn't matter how moral or religious we are.

We are devolving into a tyranny of criminals who are supported by a social, legal and legislative system. There is no place there for the constitution. It's not that it's wrong. It's inapplicable.

It sounds like you're just giving up.

So, the Constitution no longer applies to me, either. That's tough to swallow.

 

[TemplarKormac]

We are devolving into a tyranny

I'm not arguing that. Both the government and criminals.

But we must stand for what the founders fought for. Giving up on it would mean an end to the nation.

 

[Mack The Finger]

It cute how you think that facts will get due process with these lunatics.

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Didn't you hear...his case went in front of 2 federal judges.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

It sounds like you're just giving up.

So, the Constitution no longer applies to me, either. That's tough to swallow.

I know. It's a difficult one. We were raised to be secure in the protection of the Constitution. Now, it's done.

 

[yidnar]

Sure fuckup

Was he convicted or even charged with anything? Human garbage is ashti babbit.

was she convicted or even charged with anything ? and I notice your dem cult leaders go out of their way to visit a ms13 gang member being held in his own country but have yet to visit Americans in locked up in the US ..

 

[TemplarKormac]

I know. It's a difficult one. We were raised to be secure in the protection of the Constitution. Now, it's done.

If we give up on the Constitution, then what, as conservatives, are we actually fighting for?

 

[yidnar]

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Unless the judge who issued the order issued a separate ruling to say that, the order was still in place. Now, if you show me that, I will drop my protests altogether.

as far as my understanding goes .. local judges don't have control over immigration or foreign policy .. that's in the preview or the executive branch ..