Destroying the Rule of Law to Get Trump

[IM2]

"Discredited" by Leftist Media with their Maxrist enabling of socialism/communism via their conspiracy theories and lies, such as the "Russian & Trump collusion to steal the 2016 election from Hillary Clinton". Among many others.

Epoch Times is an objective and honest news source in contrast to the prejudice, bias, and Leftwing slant propaganda from the MSM (MainStreamMedia). Admittedly most of their op-ed tend to be conservative~Rightwing, which are rarely found in the Leftwing dominating MSM.

Trump is the enemy of those whom would abuse and misuse the Law and legal processes to undermine and destroy the USA.

We are seeing unlawful, unwarranted, and UnConstitutional abuse used for a witch hunt in form of a kangaroo court circus by Leftwing biased political hacks posing as legal arbitrators. Who are just plain traitors.

Epoch Times is a loon site full of disinformation.

 

[IM2]

Well let them try to cut down this precedent. Individual voter have no standing to challenge the constitutional qualifications of a candidates placement on a ballot.

Drake, et al. v. Obama, et al.; Barnett, et al. v. Obama, et al., No. 09-56827 (9th Cir. 2011)

Plaintiffs contended that Barack Obama was constitutionally ineligible to be President of the United States. In addition to plaintiffs' constitutional claims, as well as their claims for declaratory and injunctive relief, plaintiffs appealed the dismissal of their quo warranto claims for...

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There is nothing similar to what trump has done and the case you cite.

 

[OKTexas]

There is nothing similar to what trump has done and the case you cite.

Sure there is, individual voters do not have standing to challenge the constitutional qualifications of a candidate. It's exactly the same.

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[Mac1958]

It’s not hearsay. We literally have Trump saying it on record.

That's not good enough for them. They'll create a way to deny it.

I once had one of them tell me that Trump's recorded voice was computer generated, even though Trump had admitted he said it.

We're no longer operating in a world in which hard evidence matters. We're in trouble.

 

[OKTexas]

That's not good enough for them. They'll create a way to deny it.

I once had one of them tell me that Trump's recorded voice was computer generated, even though Trump had admitted he said it.

We're no longer operating in a world in which hard evidence matters. We're in trouble.

If he made no threats or offered a quid pro quo, he has every right to ask under the first amendment, and they have a right to say no.

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[frigidweirdo]

Thread title is from an article/op-ed in recent issue of Epoch Times.
Author is Laura Hollis*, and she leads off with a reference from Robert Bolt’s prize-winning play “A Man for All Seasons” which takes place in 16th-century England during the reign of King Henry VIII.

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Laura Hollis
Author

Laura Hirschfeld Hollis is a native of Champaign, Illinois. She received her undergraduate degree in English and her law degree from the University of Notre Dame. Hollis' career as an attorney has spanned 28 years, the past 23 of which have been in higher education. She has taught law at the graduate and undergraduate levels, and has nearly 15 years' experience in the development and delivery of entrepreneurship courses, seminars and workshops for multiple audiences. Her scholarly interests include entrepreneurship and public policy, economic development, technology commercialization and general business law. In addition to her legal publications, Hollis has been a freelance political writer since 1993, writing for The Detroit News, HOUR Detroit magazine, Townhall.com, and the Christian Post, on matters of politics and culture. She is a frequent public speaker.Hollis has received numerous awards for her teaching, research, community service and contributions to entrepreneurship education. She is married to Jess Hollis, a musician, voiceover artist, and audio engineer. They live in Indiana with their two children, Alistair and Celeste.
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Following posts are excerpts from her op-ed article.

Destroying the Rule of Law to Get Trump

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So, it's against the "rule of law" to convict someone of crimes?

 

[Stryder50]

Epoch Times is a loon site full of disinformation.

Well Komrade, I'll admit it's not the Pravda you prefer and disseminate.

Some here grow weary of the bias, prejudice, racism, and lies you prefer to spread; hence this as a source of alternate to 'fake news' common to the pseudo-liberal, propaganda and tripe common to that presented by you and fellow clowns from the political Left.

 

[Stryder50]

So, it's against the "rule of law" to convict someone of crimes?

The "rule of law" describes what constitutes crimes and how to pursue conviction of such.
You'll find the basic guideline in your USA Citizens' Owners Manual; a.k.a. U.S. Constitution; Amendments V & VI.
Would seem you neither know or are familiar with such.
I'd suggest some remedial study on your part.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The "rule of law" describes what constitutes crimes and how to pursue conviction of such.
You'll find the basic guideline in your USA Citizens' Owners Manual; a.k.a. U.S. Constitution; Amendments V & VI.
Would seem you neither know or are familiar with such.
I'd suggest some remedial study on your part.

The US Constitution says what about treason?

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort."

It's very vague.

"levying war"

Levying war

Definition of Levying war in the Legal Dictionary by The Free Dictionary

legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com

"LEVYING WAR, crim. law. The assembling of a body of men for the purpose of effecting by force a treasonable object; and all who perform any part however minute, or however remote from the scene of action, and who are leagued in the general conspiracy, are considered as engaged in levying war, within the meaning of the constitution."

Sounds kind of like what happened to me. They assemebled as a "body of men" for the purpose of "effecting by force a treasonable object"

U.S. v. Burr, 4 Cranch 469 (1807)

U.S. v. Burr, 4 Cranch 469 (1807)

"Coke does not give a complete definition of the term, but puts cases which amount to levying war. "An actual rebellion or insurrection," he says, "is a levying of war.""

"Foster says, "The joining with rebels in an act of rebellion, or with enemies in acts of hostility, will make a man a traitor." "Furnishing rebels or enemies with money, arms, ammunition) or other necessaries, will prima facie make a man a traitor.""

" If a rebel army, avowing its hostility to the sovereign power, should front that of the government, should march and countermarch before it, should manœuvre in its face, and should then disperse, from any cause whatever, without firing a gun, I confess I could not, without some surprise, hear gentlemen seriously contend that this could not amount to an act of levying war. "

"A case equally strong may be put with respect to the absence of military weapons. If the party be in a condition to execute the purposed treason without the usual implements of war, I can perceive no reason for requiring those implements in order to constitute the crime."

Did Trump commit "levying of war"? Or just give them "aid and comfort"? Doesn't really matter, either one of them is treason. Did the people on Jan 6th "levy war"? Almost certainly. They didn't need weapons, they got into the building via other means. However, to me, the whole point was to get in and then rally others to their side. I'm sure some of them thought that they'd be the spark that started something.

So, do you know the US Constitution?

 

[Fiero425]

The US Constitution says what about treason?

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort."

It's very vague.

"levying war"

Levying war

Definition of Levying war in the Legal Dictionary by The Free Dictionary

legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com

"LEVYING WAR, crim. law. The assembling of a body of men for the purpose of effecting by force a treasonable object; and all who perform any part however minute, or however remote from the scene of action, and who are leagued in the general conspiracy, are considered as engaged in levying war, within the meaning of the constitution."

Sounds kind of like what happened to me. They assemebled as a "body of men" for the purpose of "effecting by force a treasonable object"

U.S. v. Burr, 4 Cranch 469 (1807)

U.S. v. Burr, 4 Cranch 469 (1807)

"Coke does not give a complete definition of the term, but puts cases which amount to levying war. "An actual rebellion or insurrection," he says, "is a levying of war.""

"Foster says, "The joining with rebels in an act of rebellion, or with enemies in acts of hostility, will make a man a traitor." "Furnishing rebels or enemies with money, arms, ammunition) or other necessaries, will prima facie make a man a traitor.""

" If a rebel army, avowing its hostility to the sovereign power, should front that of the government, should march and countermarch before it, should maneuver in its face, and should then disperse, from any cause whatever, without firing a gun, I confess I could not, without some surprise, hear gentlemen seriously contend that this could not amount to an act of levying war. "

"A case equally strong may be put with respect to the absence of military weapons. If the party be in a condition to execute the purposed treason without the usual implements of war, I can perceive no reason for requiring those implements in order to constitute the crime."

Did Trump commit "levying of war"? Or just give them "aid and comfort"? Doesn't really matter, either one of them is treason. Did the people on Jan 6th "levy war"? Almost certainly. They didn't need weapons, they got into the building via other means. However, to me, the whole point was to get in and then rally others to their side. I'm sure some of them thought that they'd be the spark that started something.

So, do you know the US Constitution?

Since Trump was fellating Putin throughout his admin., does that count?

 

[Dragonlady]

....
New York’s Democrat attorney general, Letitia James, filed an action for civil fraud against President Trump, alleging that he undervalued his extensive property in Palm Beach, Florida, when applying for business loans. Ms. James wants to confiscate all of President Trump’s New York properties and cancel his licenses to conduct business.

New York Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron, the judge presiding over the case, is determined to help her do it. Justice Engoron ruled pre-trial that President Trump had committed fraud. During the trial, Justice Engoron has deliberately ignored defense testimony from multiple real estate experts supporting the valuation of the property in President Trump’s financial statements, as well as that of the lenders themselves, who testified that they used their own appraisers, were paid back promptly, and were not defrauded.

The latest travesty is the decision of the Colorado Supreme Court to strike President Trump’s name from the ballot in that state “for his role in the January 6, 2021” riots at the U.S. Capitol. This gravely inappropriate decision not only exceeds the court’s power according to legal experts on both the left and right, but also is an obvious effort to ignore mounting evidence that undermines the left’s narrative that the Jan. 6 protests were an “insurrection” that President Trump “instigated,” an accusation for which President Trump has not been criminally charged and of which he was acquitted by the U.S. Senate in the second impeachment proceeding.
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Destroying the Rule of Law to Get Trump

www.theepochtimes.com

I love how you quote Chinese propaganda in order to slag the department of justice. What a great American you are.

The Epoch Times - Bias and Credibility

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Anyone believing the bullshit put out by the Chinese government and re-posting it here is an enemy of the American people.

 

[Dragonlady]

Since Trump was fellating Putin throughout his admin., does that count?

Depends on what secrets he sold them.

Telling Putin he’ll hand the Ukraine over to him if hes re-elected is definitely giving comfort to Putin.

 

[Mac1958]

So, it's against the "rule of law" to convict someone of crimes?

The Orange Lamb o' God™ is above the law. An innocent, persecuted victim who has been sent by God to save America from Satan.

This is a cult.

 

[Dragonlady]

Well Komrade, I'll admit it's not the Pravda you prefer and disseminate.

Some here grow weary of the bias, prejudice, racism, and lies you prefer to spread; hence this as a source of alternate to 'fake news' common to the pseudo-liberal, propaganda and tripe common to that presented by you and fellow clowns from the political Left.

Those are some very fancy words you’re using to justify posting quotes from a Chinese propaganda site.

It’s really difficult to pretend to be a pseudo-intellectual, while quoting actual provable “fake news” from a genuine Chinese propaganda site.

 

[Smokin' OP]

None of these charges would have been possible if Trump had only listened to his advisors

Mar 16, 2016 — "My primary consultant is myself and I have a good instinct for this stuff."

 

[Smokin' OP]

Care to discuss the fraud of the phony Russia collusion hoax?

Mueller Report Shows Depth of Connections Between ...​

The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics
Jan 26, 2019 — Donald J. Trump and 18 of his associates had at least 140 contacts with Russian nationals and WikiLeaks, or their intermediaries, during the ...

Why would ANY US presidential campaign have 140 contacts with a foreign government, let alone Russia?

 

[Mac1958]

Epoch Times is a loon site full of disinformation.

To them, it and sites like it all provide The Truth™. We need to understand that. We can't dismiss them or their influence. The danger is only increasing.

 

[Batcat]

Donald J Trump is a victim of his own poor decisions

True. The message the Deep State is trying to deliver is if you are an unapproved outsider, don’t even think of running for President. Your life will be ruined and you will likely be bankrupt and possibly imprisoned.

 

[Dragonlady]

The "rule of law" describes what constitutes crimes and how to pursue conviction of such.
You'll find the basic guideline in your USA Citizens' Owners Manual; a.k.a. U.S. Constitution; Amendments V & VI.
Would seem you neither know or are familiar with such.
I'd suggest some remedial study on your part.

You're really in no position to criticize anyone else' knowledge of Constitutional law. There isn't a single Constitutional scholar or practicing attorney who has signed onto any of the legally insane defense strategies Trump is trying to float.

The mere fact that you're suggesting Trump's prosecution is anything other than legally necessary, shows your abject ignorance of the US Constitution. Hardly surprising given that right wing media has been lying to you about the Constitution for decades.

 

[BS Filter]

You're really in no position to criticize anyone else' knowledge of Constitutional law. There isn't a single Constitutional scholar or practicing attorney who has signed onto any of the legally insane defense strategies Trump is trying to float.

The mere fact that you're suggesting Trump's prosecution is anything other than legally necessary, shows your abject ignorance of the US Constitution. Hardly surprising given that right wing media has been lying to you about the Constitution for decades.

You will soon learn a valuable lesson about the Constitution. You're gonna melt like the wicked witch in Oz.