Deportations:Obama vs Trump

[Lesh]

Recently Trump supporters have claimed that Trump is using the same criteria for deportation as Obama.

That’s not true and here is an excellent description of the differences

Obama deportations vs. Trump: Context is everything. | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump wants to deport a lot of people this weekend. “You know what? They came in illegally. They have to go out,” he told reporters Friday as he confirmed that planned immigration raids would go ahead in certain cities starting this weekend.

amp.cnn.com

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Biden created this colossal mess with his treasonous abandonment of our borders that let in, literally, 100,000's of criminals and gang members. This has never occurred before in the history of this nation. So it is going to take unprecedented measures to cure the absolute mess that Biden let happen and YOU voted for and didn't care about

 

[Darkwind]

Recently Trump supporters have claimed that Trump is using the same criteria for deportation as Obama.

That’s not true and here is an excellent description of the differences

Obama deportations vs. Trump: Context is everything. | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump wants to deport a lot of people this weekend. “You know what? They came in illegally. They have to go out,” he told reporters Friday as he confirmed that planned immigration raids would go ahead in certain cities starting this weekend.

amp.cnn.com

The 1996 Immigration Law Signed by Bill Clinton​

The law you are referring to is the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (IIRIRA). Signed by President Bill Clinton, IIRIRA significantly overhauled U.S. immigration policy, particularly regarding enforcement and deportation procedures125.

Key Provisions of IIRIRA​

• Strengthened Border and Interior Enforcement: Increased penalties for undocumented immigrants, particularly those involved in crimes, and enhanced border controls15.
• Expanded Deportation Grounds: Broadened the list of crimes (including many misdemeanors and non-violent offenses) that could trigger deportation234.
• Unlawful Presence Bars: Established 3-year and 10-year reentry bars for immigrants unlawfully present in the U.S. for certain periods135.
• Streamlined Removal Proceedings: Merged exclusion and deportation into a single process called “removal proceedings”2.
• Expedited Removal: Allowed immigration officials to summarily remove certain noncitizens without a hearing before a judge, especially those without valid documents or who committed fraud upon entry24.
• Mandatory Detention: Required detention of noncitizens convicted of certain crimes, limiting judicial discretion4.

Summary of Deportation (Removal) Requirements in IIRIRA​

1. Criminal Convictions and Deportation

• The law expanded the definition of “aggravated felony” to include many more offenses, some of which are neither aggravated nor felonies under state law24.
• Any noncitizen convicted of an “aggravated felony” is subject to mandatory deportation and is generally ineligible for most forms of relief, including asylum24.
• Deportation can be triggered by the maximum possible sentence for a crime, not just the sentence actually imposed4.
• The law allows retroactive application, so older convictions can also lead to deportation if they now fall under the expanded aggravated felony list24.

2. Unlawful Presence Bars

• Unlawful presence in the U.S. for 180 days but less than a year results in a 3-year bar from reentry after departure135.
• Unlawful presence for a year or more results in a 10-year bar from reentry135.
• If someone returns without proper authorization after a prior removal, they face a 10-year wait before they can even apply for a waiver1.

3. Removal Proceedings

• All noncitizens (including those admitted, applying for admission, or present without inspection) are subject to removal proceedings if found removable2.
• Proceedings start with a “Notice to Appear,” detailing the charges and alleged violations2.
• Immigration judges oversee removal proceedings, but relief options are much more limited than before IIRIRA24.

4. Expedited and Stipulated Removal

• Expedited removal allows for summary deportation of certain noncitizens without a court hearing, particularly those at the border or recently arrived without valid documents24.
• Stipulated removal allows noncitizens to agree to removal as part of a plea deal, waiving their right to a hearing2.

5. Mandatory Detention

• Noncitizens with certain criminal convictions, including “crimes involving moral turpitude,” are subject to mandatory detention pending removal proceedings, with little opportunity for release24.

In Summary​

The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 made it much easier for the government to deport noncitizens, even for minor or old criminal offenses, and imposed strict penalties for unlawful presence. It also reduced the discretion of immigration judges to consider individual circumstances, making deportation a near-automatic consequence for many offenses245.

 

[struth]

Recently Trump supporters have claimed that Trump is using the same criteria for deportation as Obama.

That’s not true and here is an excellent description of the differences

Obama deportations vs. Trump: Context is everything. | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump wants to deport a lot of people this weekend. “You know what? They came in illegally. They have to go out,” he told reporters Friday as he confirmed that planned immigration raids would go ahead in certain cities starting this weekend.

amp.cnn.com

They are literally using the same law, other then for terrorist.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

They are literally using the same law, other then for terrorist.

He/She doesn't care.
They just hate Trump. Whatever he is doing, they are against.
Noting else matters. At all. Even a little.

 

[SeaMajor7]

The 1996 Immigration Law Signed by Bill Clinton​

The law you are referring to is the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (IIRIRA). Signed by President Bill Clinton, IIRIRA significantly overhauled U.S. immigration policy, particularly regarding enforcement and deportation procedures125.

Key Provisions of IIRIRA​

• Strengthened Border and Interior Enforcement: Increased penalties for undocumented immigrants, particularly those involved in crimes, and enhanced border controls15.
• Expanded Deportation Grounds: Broadened the list of crimes (including many misdemeanors and non-violent offenses) that could trigger deportation234.
• Unlawful Presence Bars: Established 3-year and 10-year reentry bars for immigrants unlawfully present in the U.S. for certain periods135.
• Streamlined Removal Proceedings: Merged exclusion and deportation into a single process called “removal proceedings”2.
• Expedited Removal: Allowed immigration officials to summarily remove certain noncitizens without a hearing before a judge, especially those without valid documents or who committed fraud upon entry24.
• Mandatory Detention: Required detention of noncitizens convicted of certain crimes, limiting judicial discretion4.

Summary of Deportation (Removal) Requirements in IIRIRA​

1. Criminal Convictions and Deportation

• The law expanded the definition of “aggravated felony” to include many more offenses, some of which are neither aggravated nor felonies under state law24.
• Any noncitizen convicted of an “aggravated felony” is subject to mandatory deportation and is generally ineligible for most forms of relief, including asylum24.
• Deportation can be triggered by the maximum possible sentence for a crime, not just the sentence actually imposed4.
• The law allows retroactive application, so older convictions can also lead to deportation if they now fall under the expanded aggravated felony list24.

2. Unlawful Presence Bars

• Unlawful presence in the U.S. for 180 days but less than a year results in a 3-year bar from reentry after departure135.
• Unlawful presence for a year or more results in a 10-year bar from reentry135.
• If someone returns without proper authorization after a prior removal, they face a 10-year wait before they can even apply for a waiver1.

3. Removal Proceedings

• All noncitizens (including those admitted, applying for admission, or present without inspection) are subject to removal proceedings if found removable2.
• Proceedings start with a “Notice to Appear,” detailing the charges and alleged violations2.
• Immigration judges oversee removal proceedings, but relief options are much more limited than before IIRIRA24.

4. Expedited and Stipulated Removal

• Expedited removal allows for summary deportation of certain noncitizens without a court hearing, particularly those at the border or recently arrived without valid documents24.
• Stipulated removal allows noncitizens to agree to removal as part of a plea deal, waiving their right to a hearing2.

5. Mandatory Detention

• Noncitizens with certain criminal convictions, including “crimes involving moral turpitude,” are subject to mandatory detention pending removal proceedings, with little opportunity for release24.

In Summary​

The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 made it much easier for the government to deport noncitizens, even for minor or old criminal offenses, and imposed strict penalties for unlawful presence. It also reduced the discretion of immigration judges to consider individual circumstances, making deportation a near-automatic consequence for many offenses245.

Thread OVER.
Shut it down.
End of discussion.
The End.

 

[Hellokitty]

Recently Trump supporters have claimed that Trump is using the same criteria for deportation as Obama.

That’s not true and here is an excellent description of the differences

Obama deportations vs. Trump: Context is everything. | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump wants to deport a lot of people this weekend. “You know what? They came in illegally. They have to go out,” he told reporters Friday as he confirmed that planned immigration raids would go ahead in certain cities starting this weekend.

amp.cnn.com

LOL, so it was okay for Obama to ignore illegals due process because they hadn't been in the country long...

 

[Lesh]

They are literally using the same law, other then for terrorist.

That’s sorta true. But it’s also a lie because of HOW, where, and on who… the law is being used

 

[SeaMajor7]

That’s sorta true. But it’s also a lie because of HOW, where, and on who… the law is being used

Nah, you're just a flaming HYPOCRITE.
GTFOH

 

[struth]

That’s sorta true. But it’s also a lie because of HOW, where, and on who… the law is being used

Agreed, Xiden and Obama didn't acutally fully enforce the law, and selectively used it on certain people...which frankly is what authoritarians do.

Trump enforces the law across the board, how Govt should.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

That’s sorta true. But it’s also a lie because of HOW, where, and on who… the law is being used

Biden created this colossal mess, and you supported it.
When the crimes against Americans rose - you didn't care. Like other liberals, I will go out on a limb and say you were one of the deniers.
Now Trump is working to get these people out of here - and all you care about is their "rights". And protecting them.

We are perfectly okay that the Trump admin is deporting them in mass in a speedy way, if a few get out that maybe shouldn't have - we are good with that. Because we care about Americans and our children more than the rights of criminals and gang members.
Biden caused this - and everyone who voted for him and then Harris also caused this.

 

[Lesh]

“Crimes against Americans…” are perpetrated primarily BY Americans

 

[SeaMajor7]

“Crimes against Americans…” are perpetrated primarily BY Americans

Yeah, by ASSHOLES like YOU who approve of the INVASION OF ILLEGAL ALIENS.

 

[Nostra]

Recently Trump supporters have claimed that Trump is using the same criteria for deportation as Obama.

That’s not true and here is an excellent description of the differences

Obama deportations vs. Trump: Context is everything. | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump wants to deport a lot of people this weekend. “You know what? They came in illegally. They have to go out,” he told reporters Friday as he confirmed that planned immigration raids would go ahead in certain cities starting this weekend.

amp.cnn.com

CNN opinion piece quoting an Obama lackey.

 

[struth]

“Crimes against Americans…” are perpetrated primarily BY Americans

This is true, and they specifically ID as Dems

 

[Lesh]

This is true, and they specifically ID as Dems

Fuck you

 

[struth]

Fuck you

Thanks for proving my point

 

[M14 Shooter]

That’s not true and here is an excellent description of the differences

The difference is Trump wants to deport all illegals and Obama didn't.
Advantage: Trump.

Again ,tell us:
Obama deported people regardless if they were criminals or not - why can't Trump?
Obama did not need to put every deportee before a judge - why does Trump?
Obama deported people with nothing but a review by a DHS or ICE agent - why can't Trump?
Obama deported people w/o witnesses, attorneys, or appeals - why can't Trump?

 

[Lesh]

The difference is Trump wants to deport all illegals and Obama didn't.
Advantage: Trump.

Again ,tell us:
Obama deported people regardless if they were criminals or not - why can't Trump?
Obama did not need to put every deportee before a judge - why does Trump?
Obama deported people with nothing but a review by a DHS or ICE agent - why can't Trump?
Obama deported people w/o witnesses, attorneys, or appeals - why can't Trump?

Trump wants to deport 17 million people?

Yeah that ain’t happening

 

[M14 Shooter]

“Crimes against Americans…” are perpetrated primarily BY Americans

Primarily by Americans... who vote Democrat 90% of the time.