Denying illegals the sale of alcohol and tobacco products

[JGalt]

I'm doing my part in making it easier for illegal aliens to want to self-deport. I am doing this by depriving them of being able to illegally purchase tobacco and alcohol products. I emailed corporate headquarters of the store chain I work for, asking them to clarify the rules on checking foreign identification cards. They basically punted, and responded like this:

"Hello XXX,

While we can’t list every acceptable form of ID in the policy, we suggest contacting your store leader for guidance. If you still have questions, please reach out to (or have your store leader reach out to) your local municipality for guidance.

Thanks!

Talent Team"

So the next thing I did was to go to our local Sheriff's Department for information. From what I was told, they are being "overwhelmed" with so many forms of identification they come across, and are more concerned about those individuals operating vehicles, as opposed to those attempting to illegally purchase alcohol and tobacco products.

I then responded with this:

"Well I had today off and my store leader was unavailable. But I did make contact with our local Sheriff's Department for more information. Apparently they are overwhelmed with so many forms of identification they come across, and are more concerned about those individuals operating vehicles, as opposed to those attempting to illegally purchase alcohol and tobacco products.

So I put together this guide, perhaps it can be of some assistance to you. I can attest that every one of these forms of identification has been presented to me previously and in every case, I have refused the sale of alcohol or tobacco products.

 

[candycorn]

Why would you want fewer sales? Do you hate brown people that much?

 

[JGalt]

Why would you want fewer sales? Do you hate brown people that much?

A better question is "Why would you want to allow the illegal sale of alcoholic beverages to people who aren't legally eligible?"

Aren't there enough dead Americans on the highways and roads to suit you? Do you also condone the sale of alcohol to minors? Should gun dealers just sell guns to anyone too, whether they're US citizens or not?

 

[candycorn]

A better question is "Why would you want to allow the illegal sale of alcoholic beverages to illegal aliens?"

An illegal alien buying a beer is illegal?

Should gun dealers just sell guns to anyone too, whether they're US citizens or not?

They do already...no questions asked. Thanks to people...like you.

 

[JGalt]

....and candycorn laughs. Like it's some kind of ******* joke that illegal immigrants drink, drive, and kill Americans on the highways.

How typical.

 

[JGalt]

An illegal alien buying a beer is illegal?

They do already...no questions asked. Thanks to people...like you.

Yes. It is illegal to purchase beer, wine, alcoholic beverages, tobacco products, and THC products if the purchaser cannot provide a valid US state or federal-issued form of identification. Not only that, the person who knowingly sells those to that person can be fined and arrested, as well as fines for the company the seller works for.

And **** you. I don't sell my guns to anyone.

 

[candycorn]

Yes. It is illegal to purchase beer, wine, alcoholic beverages, tobacco products, and THC products if the purchaser cannot provide a valid US state or federal-issued form of identification.

So the rum and coke I purchased on Saturday was an illegal transaction since I wasn't carded?

Are you on cocaine?

Not only that, the person who knowingly sells those to that person can be fined and arrested, as well as fines for the company the seller works for.

LOL...make me laugh harder.

And **** you. I don't sell my guns to anyone.

No but all of the white children in Hickville do.

 

[Mack The Finger]

And **** you. I don't sell my guns to anyone.

DAM...I was hoping you H&R 922 or a H&R 929 for sale.

 

[JGalt]

So the rum and coke I purchased on Saturday was an illegal transaction since I wasn't carded?

Are you on cocaine?

LOL...make me laugh harder.

No but all of the white children in Hickville do.

If you asked me for a rum and coke and refused to provide me with a valid form of ID, or presented one I suspected was fraudulent, I could by all rights tell you to "Get the **** out of here." And there wouldn't be a thing you could do about it.

I regularly refuse the sale of cigarettes, alcoholic beverages, and THC products to customers who have no form of ID, or ID I suspect is fraudulent. That's company policy.

Let's ask AI...

"In Wisconsin, can I sell cigarettes to a person using a Mexican Consular ID card?"

AI Overview

"No, you generally cannot sell cigarettes to a person using only a Mexican Consular ID card in Wisconsin. Acceptable forms of identification for tobacco sales in Wisconsin must be government-issued and include a driver's license, state-issued ID card, passport, or military ID. A Mexican Consular ID is not listed as an acceptable form of identification by Wisconsin law or federal guidance for verifying age for tobacco purchases, and therefore cannot be used."

"Can i sell alcoholic beverages to a person using a Mexican Consular ID card?"

AI Overview

"No, you cannot sell alcoholic beverages in Wisconsin using a Mexican consular ID because it is not a form of valid identification for this purpose Wisconsin law requires a valid photo ID, such as a U.S. driver's license, a U.S. passport, or a military ID, to purchase alcohol, and foreign government-issued IDs are not accepted by themselves."

"Can i sell alcoholic beverages to a person using a foreign voter ID card?"

AI Overview

"No, you cannot reliably accept a foreign voter ID card as a form of identification for purchasing alcohol in the U.S..

• Voter IDs are typically not considered valid proof of age for alcohol sales. In many cases, U.S. voter registration cards are not even considered valid ID for alcohol purchases because they often lack a photograph, date of birth, or signature, and in the U.S., people can vote at 18 but must be 21 to purchase alcohol.
• Establishments have the right to refuse service. Even if an ID meets certain criteria, private businesses can set stricter ID policies and refuse service to anyone."

 

[JGalt]

DAM...I was hoping you H&R 922 or a H&R 929 for sale.

Damned fine .22 pistols those are. I've own each of them at different times in the past.

Coon hunters loved those things.

 

[egp320i]

I'm doing my part in making it easier for illegal aliens to want to self-deport. I am doing this by depriving them of being able to illegally purchase tobacco and alcohol products. I emailed corporate headquarters of the store chain I work for, asking them to clarify the rules on checking foreign identification cards. They basically punted, and responded like this:

"Hello XXX,

While we can’t list every acceptable form of ID in the policy, we suggest contacting your store leader for guidance. If you still have questions, please reach out to (or have your store leader reach out to) your local municipality for guidance.

Thanks!

Talent Team"

So the next thing I did was to go to our local Sheriff's Department for information. From what I was told, they are being "overwhelmed" with so many forms of identification they come across, and are more concerned about those individuals operating vehicles, as opposed to those attempting to illegally purchase alcohol and tobacco products.

I then responded with this:

"Well I had today off and my store leader was unavailable. But I did make contact with our local Sheriff's Department for more information. Apparently they are overwhelmed with so many forms of identification they come across, and are more concerned about those individuals operating vehicles, as opposed to those attempting to illegally purchase alcohol and tobacco products.

So I put together this guide, perhaps it can be of some assistance to you. I can attest that every one of these forms of identification has been presented to me previously and in every case, I have refused the sale of alcohol or tobacco products.

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illegal or legal is the key, how many illegals even have ID.......none most likely

Somebody visiting from Ireland can't buy a 6 pack of Guinness here?

If we can buy booze and smokes when we visit somewhere why can't they?

cruise ships would suck without booze

 

[JGalt]

Mexican consular ID cards and voter registration cards are not accepted for alcohol and cigarette purchases in Wisconsin because the state law explicitly defines a narrow list of accepted "official identification cards," which generally does not include those specific foreign-issued documents.

Establishments also have the right to refuse any ID they are not confident in verifying.

Reasons for Non-Acceptance

Specific State Law Requirements: Wisconsin statutes explicitly list the forms of identification that are recognized as "official identification cards" for age verification. The accepted forms are:

A valid Wisconsin operator's license (driver's license).
A valid Wisconsin identification card.
A valid military identification card issued to a member of the U.S. armed forces.
A valid U.S. passport.
A valid identification card issued by a federally recognized American Indian tribe or band in Wisconsin that contains the card holder's photograph, full name, address, and date of birth.

The law specifies that no other card may be recognized as an official identification card in the state for these purposes.

Retailer Discretion: While the above IDs are legally recognized, Wisconsin law also states that a licensee (retailer) may require any other form of identification acceptable to them, but they are not required to accept any ID that they deem invalid or unauthentic. Many retailers have policies to only accept IDs they are familiar with to avoid fines and legal penalties for selling to minors.

Verification Concerns: The primary function of the ID check is age verification. Foreign documents like a Mexican consular ID (Matrícula Consular) or a voter registration card might lack security features familiar to U.S. retailers or law enforcement, making them difficult to authenticate reliably.

In practice, this means that even if a specific local establishment might be willing to accept them (which is rare), state law does not recognize them as official proof of age, and most retailers will refuse them to ensure compliance with strict alcohol and tobacco regulations.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

illegal or legal is the key, how many illegals even have ID.......none most likely

Somebody visiting from Ireland can't buy a 6 pack of Guinness here?

If we can buy booze and smokes when we visit somewhere why can't they?

cruise ships would suck without booze

Does he have a passport?

My brother had to show his passport in St, Kitts 3 weeks ago.

Cruise ships require a valid ID. You show your passport when checking in and they even take your photo to verify your identity. When they scan your cruise card at the bar, your picture comes up! No one else can use your card. No card, no booze.

 

[egp320i]

Does he have a passport?

My brother had to show his passport in St, Kitts 3 weeks ago.

Cruise ships require a valid ID. You show your passport when checking in and they even take your photo to verify your identity. When they scan your cruise card at the bar, your picture comes up! No one else can use your card. No card, no booze.

well yeah you need some form of government issued ID, if you have a grey beard they might let it slide

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

I'm doing my part in making it easier for illegal aliens to want to self-deport. I am doing this by depriving them of being able to illegally purchase tobacco and alcohol products. I emailed corporate headquarters of the store chain I work for, asking them to clarify the rules on checking foreign identification cards. They basically punted, and responded like this:

"Hello XXX,

While we can’t list every acceptable form of ID in the policy, we suggest contacting your store leader for guidance. If you still have questions, please reach out to (or have your store leader reach out to) your local municipality for guidance.

Thanks!

Talent Team"

So the next thing I did was to go to our local Sheriff's Department for information. From what I was told, they are being "overwhelmed" with so many forms of identification they come across, and are more concerned about those individuals operating vehicles, as opposed to those attempting to illegally purchase alcohol and tobacco products.

I then responded with this:

"Well I had today off and my store leader was unavailable. But I did make contact with our local Sheriff's Department for more information. Apparently they are overwhelmed with so many forms of identification they come across, and are more concerned about those individuals operating vehicles, as opposed to those attempting to illegally purchase alcohol and tobacco products.

So I put together this guide, perhaps it can be of some assistance to you. I can attest that every one of these forms of identification has been presented to me previously and in every case, I have refused the sale of alcohol or tobacco products.

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anything in a foreign language should be rejected...
Anything from south or central america should be rejected


The passports are good anywhere

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

well yeah you need some form of government issued ID, if you have a grey beard they might let it slide

Nope. It was documented on your cruise card and that was all you needed to buy booze on the ship. Ashore they wanted his passport.

On the ship they checked my card too and my beard is gray. So is my brother's. No card, no booze. Not even sodas or water bottles without the card. They need to know what to charge you if at all.

 

[egp320i]

Nope. It was documented on your cruise card and that was all you needed to buy booze on the ship. Ashore they wanted his passport.

On the ship they checked my card too and my beard is gray. So is my brother's. No card, no booze. Not even sodas or water bottles without the card. They need to know what to charge you if at all.

good to know, never been on a cruise ship and likely never will to be carded to buy a beer, it's not like you buying state secrets, good grief
obviously if you look barely 21 then of course but no discretion when you are clearly twice the age is kinda silly

It's like soup nazi.....no soup for you, but I am 50 with grey hair.....sorry ID or no beer

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

good to know, never been on a cruise ship and likely never will to be carded to buy a beer, it's not like you buying state secrets, good grief
obviously if you look barely 21 then of course but no discretion when you are clearly twice the age is kinda silly

It's like soup nazi.....no soup for you, but I am 50 with grey hair.....sorry ID or no beer

You have my condolences. My hair is brown with occasional gray.

 

[Unkotare]

Why would you want fewer sales? Do you hate brown people that much?

Who the hell are "Brown people"?

 

[JGalt]

Who the hell are "Brown people"?

People who don't have valid forms of identification.

I've refused sales to white people too. Expired DL? No sale for you.