Demorats....Time To Kiss Your Party Good-bye.

There is no need for a new message. I think you Republicans need to start looking at your party. Trump barely won, and you guys are acting like he got 99 percent of the vote. Between the people who voted for Harris and the people who didn't vote, over 160 million people are opposed to what Republicans have to offer. You are about to get a true reality check
Nah. Republicans and Libertarians try to figure out what's wrong with their message.

Democrats try to figure out what's wrong with everybody else.

You can't change a person who refuses to admit when they're wrong.
 
There is no need for a new message.
Kiss your party goodbye then.
I think you Republicans need to start looking at your party.
Deflection and whataboutism from the O/P.
Trump barely won, and you guys are acting like he got 99 percent of the vote. Between the people who voted for Harris and the people who didn't vote, over 160 million people are opposed to what Republicans have to offer. You are about to get a true reality check

Cry out your eyes.

Here's some reality for you. Trump won and will be the president for 1330 more days. The hateful ones will just have to learn to cope. 😆
 
Geeezzzz. What a messed up confabulartion, the Democrat Party.

But.....a landslid loss can do that to you, I guess.

Now they can't decide who to blame, what to double down on, what agenda to keep, what to jettison, whether to support murder.....





1.Here is the basis for the war in today's Democrat Party:
"...cascading crisis around Biden — his infirmity, the crisis of confidence in the party it caused, his saddling of the party with a weak successor, his final, fatal extraction from her to promise not to break from him — wasn’t really Biden’s decision to run again. It had been the Democratic establishment’s desperation to stop Bernie Sanders and his movement from taking over the party in 2020, something they could only do by saddling themselves with a man whose political abilities many of them had little faith in."

jacobin.com

Will Democrats Learn From the Biden Disaster? Probably Not.

The Democratic Party’s propping up an obviously declining Joe Biden is one of the greatest political disasters in American history.
jacobin.com
jacobin.com






2. "The Democratic Socialists of America Don’t Know If They Should Condemn Murder
A split inside the far-left group over the shootings of Sarah Milgrim and Yaron Lischinsky has spilled into New York’s mayoral race.
Last Wednesday, a 31-year-old progressive activist allegedly shot and killed two employees of the Israeli embassy in Washington, D.C., in cold blood.

You would think that this would be easy to condemn. Yet when the New York City chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America (objected) ....members of the political organization revolted. Almost immediately, a debate broke out in the national DSA’s internal message board for dues-paying members over how to respond to the killings outside the Capital Jewish Museum.

“Is it good to condemn violence against a genocidal apartheid state?” a DSA member with the username “SebastianFG” said in a post. Other members responded to the post with emojis of a heart and applause.





3. "OUT OF TOUCH Wisconsin Democrats Introduce 164-Page Bill to Erase Gender Language In the Name of Equity
They never learn.

Wisconsin's Democratic Party -- who only control the governorship -- have decided to go all-in on the gender ideology nonsense.
Democratic Governor Tony Evers proposed changing the word 'mother' to the Orwellian (and gross) phrase 'inseminated persons' not too long ago, but that apparently wasn't radical enough.

Now the Dems have introduced legislation to erase 'mother' and 'father' from state documents and legislation.
Democrats in the Wisconsin Legislature have introduced a bill that replaces the word "mother" with "person who gave birth" 370 times and eliminates the concept of a "biological mother," replacing it with "natural parent" 47 times."
Twitchy.com





4. 'The time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it'

www.wnd.com

Leftist: Let's use coronavirus to eliminate 'the family' * WorldNetDaily * by WND Staff

A far-left publication that gets some of its support for the liberal billionaire George Soros says there could be some good that comes out of the coronavirus pandemic.
www.wnd.com
www.wnd.com

For example, the total elimination of "the family."

"We deserve better than the family. And the time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it," wrote radical-feminist activist Sophie Lewis on the website openDemocracy.

"It norms us for productive work. It makes us believe we are 'individuals,'" she said. "It minimizes costs for capital while maximizing human beings' life-making labor (across billions of tiny boxes, each kitted out – absurdly – with its own kitchen, micro-creche and laundry.) It blackmails us into mistaking the only sources of love and care we have for the extent of what is possible."



5. No Democrat can explain why they voted for this:
Race and gender preferences

Language police

No punishment for criminals

Open borders

Attacks on the Supreme Court

Transgender sports competitions

Antisemitism

Wealth tax

Cancel culture

Welfare State

Government run healthcare mandates

Sanctuary Cities

Two-Tiered Justice system




What can the Democrat run on???????????
Are you predicting another 'landslide' in the mid-terms or will the Dem rise, Phoenix-like, from the ashes?
 
Geeezzzz. What a messed up confabulartion, the Democrat Party.

But.....a landslid loss can do that to you, I guess.

Now they can't decide who to blame, what to double down on, what agenda to keep, what to jettison, whether to support murder.....





1.Here is the basis for the war in today's Democrat Party:
"...cascading crisis around Biden — his infirmity, the crisis of confidence in the party it caused, his saddling of the party with a weak successor, his final, fatal extraction from her to promise not to break from him — wasn’t really Biden’s decision to run again. It had been the Democratic establishment’s desperation to stop Bernie Sanders and his movement from taking over the party in 2020, something they could only do by saddling themselves with a man whose political abilities many of them had little faith in."

jacobin.com

Will Democrats Learn From the Biden Disaster? Probably Not.

The Democratic Party’s propping up an obviously declining Joe Biden is one of the greatest political disasters in American history.
jacobin.com
jacobin.com






2. "The Democratic Socialists of America Don’t Know If They Should Condemn Murder
A split inside the far-left group over the shootings of Sarah Milgrim and Yaron Lischinsky has spilled into New York’s mayoral race.
Last Wednesday, a 31-year-old progressive activist allegedly shot and killed two employees of the Israeli embassy in Washington, D.C., in cold blood.

You would think that this would be easy to condemn. Yet when the New York City chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America (objected) ....members of the political organization revolted. Almost immediately, a debate broke out in the national DSA’s internal message board for dues-paying members over how to respond to the killings outside the Capital Jewish Museum.

“Is it good to condemn violence against a genocidal apartheid state?” a DSA member with the username “SebastianFG” said in a post. Other members responded to the post with emojis of a heart and applause.





3. "OUT OF TOUCH Wisconsin Democrats Introduce 164-Page Bill to Erase Gender Language In the Name of Equity
They never learn.

Wisconsin's Democratic Party -- who only control the governorship -- have decided to go all-in on the gender ideology nonsense.
Democratic Governor Tony Evers proposed changing the word 'mother' to the Orwellian (and gross) phrase 'inseminated persons' not too long ago, but that apparently wasn't radical enough.

Now the Dems have introduced legislation to erase 'mother' and 'father' from state documents and legislation.
Democrats in the Wisconsin Legislature have introduced a bill that replaces the word "mother" with "person who gave birth" 370 times and eliminates the concept of a "biological mother," replacing it with "natural parent" 47 times."
Twitchy.com





4. 'The time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it'

www.wnd.com

Leftist: Let's use coronavirus to eliminate 'the family' * WorldNetDaily * by WND Staff

A far-left publication that gets some of its support for the liberal billionaire George Soros says there could be some good that comes out of the coronavirus pandemic.
www.wnd.com
www.wnd.com

For example, the total elimination of "the family."

"We deserve better than the family. And the time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it," wrote radical-feminist activist Sophie Lewis on the website openDemocracy.

"It norms us for productive work. It makes us believe we are 'individuals,'" she said. "It minimizes costs for capital while maximizing human beings' life-making labor (across billions of tiny boxes, each kitted out – absurdly – with its own kitchen, micro-creche and laundry.) It blackmails us into mistaking the only sources of love and care we have for the extent of what is possible."



5. No Democrat can explain why they voted for this:
Race and gender preferences

Language police

No punishment for criminals

Open borders

Attacks on the Supreme Court

Transgender sports competitions

Antisemitism

Wealth tax

Cancel culture

Welfare State

Government run healthcare mandates

Sanctuary Cities

Two-Tiered Justice system




What can the Democrat run on???????????
They said that about the Republicans in ‘64.
 
Geeezzzz. What a messed up confabulartion, the Democrat Party.

In fairness, it applies equally to both parties .

Deep State runs both --- pointless having a Shadow Government if it cannot produce and run on a Win- Win paradigm .

However , Trumpfy appeared as an exceptional candidate -- Charisma , Showman , Con Artist etc
and was the ideal person to be gifted the Presidency.

Which is exactly what they gave him , courtesy of a joke opponent and a Fake assassination attempt to whip up the sympathy .

First act of the Theatre Drama has been most entertaining .
Next Act will be very painful .
 
Geeezzzz. What a messed up confabulartion, the Democrat Party.

But.....a landslid loss can do that to you, I guess.

Now they can't decide who to blame, what to double down on, what agenda to keep, what to jettison, whether to support murder.....





1.Here is the basis for the war in today's Democrat Party:
"...cascading crisis around Biden — his infirmity, the crisis of confidence in the party it caused, his saddling of the party with a weak successor, his final, fatal extraction from her to promise not to break from him — wasn’t really Biden’s decision to run again. It had been the Democratic establishment’s desperation to stop Bernie Sanders and his movement from taking over the party in 2020, something they could only do by saddling themselves with a man whose political abilities many of them had little faith in."

jacobin.com

Will Democrats Learn From the Biden Disaster? Probably Not.

The Democratic Party’s propping up an obviously declining Joe Biden is one of the greatest political disasters in American history.
jacobin.com
jacobin.com






2. "The Democratic Socialists of America Don’t Know If They Should Condemn Murder
A split inside the far-left group over the shootings of Sarah Milgrim and Yaron Lischinsky has spilled into New York’s mayoral race.
Last Wednesday, a 31-year-old progressive activist allegedly shot and killed two employees of the Israeli embassy in Washington, D.C., in cold blood.

You would think that this would be easy to condemn. Yet when the New York City chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America (objected) ....members of the political organization revolted. Almost immediately, a debate broke out in the national DSA’s internal message board for dues-paying members over how to respond to the killings outside the Capital Jewish Museum.

“Is it good to condemn violence against a genocidal apartheid state?” a DSA member with the username “SebastianFG” said in a post. Other members responded to the post with emojis of a heart and applause.





3. "OUT OF TOUCH Wisconsin Democrats Introduce 164-Page Bill to Erase Gender Language In the Name of Equity
They never learn.

Wisconsin's Democratic Party -- who only control the governorship -- have decided to go all-in on the gender ideology nonsense.
Democratic Governor Tony Evers proposed changing the word 'mother' to the Orwellian (and gross) phrase 'inseminated persons' not too long ago, but that apparently wasn't radical enough.

Now the Dems have introduced legislation to erase 'mother' and 'father' from state documents and legislation.
Democrats in the Wisconsin Legislature have introduced a bill that replaces the word "mother" with "person who gave birth" 370 times and eliminates the concept of a "biological mother," replacing it with "natural parent" 47 times."
Twitchy.com





4. 'The time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it'

www.wnd.com

Leftist: Let's use coronavirus to eliminate 'the family' * WorldNetDaily * by WND Staff

A far-left publication that gets some of its support for the liberal billionaire George Soros says there could be some good that comes out of the coronavirus pandemic.
www.wnd.com
www.wnd.com

For example, the total elimination of "the family."

"We deserve better than the family. And the time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it," wrote radical-feminist activist Sophie Lewis on the website openDemocracy.

"It norms us for productive work. It makes us believe we are 'individuals,'" she said. "It minimizes costs for capital while maximizing human beings' life-making labor (across billions of tiny boxes, each kitted out – absurdly – with its own kitchen, micro-creche and laundry.) It blackmails us into mistaking the only sources of love and care we have for the extent of what is possible."



5. No Democrat can explain why they voted for this:
Race and gender preferences

Language police

No punishment for criminals

Open borders

Attacks on the Supreme Court

Transgender sports competitions

Antisemitism

Wealth tax

Cancel culture

Welfare State

Government run healthcare mandates

Sanctuary Cities

Two-Tiered Justice system




What can the Democrat run on???????????

The Dems are setting themselves up for a midterm disaster. :party:
 
More tin foil hat.
Do you not understand that this is your opportunity to articulate your disagreement?

Free speech is what the Right has fought to allow you, defeating the censorship and cancel culture of the Democrat Party.


Certainly you can do better that that silly post.
 
Nah. 1.5 percent loss after winning the last 3 national elections does not spell demise. What needs explanation is why Republicans voted for racism.
A better attempt.



A Democrat far smarter than you wrote this......would you like to debate him?




STEPHEN A. SMITH: It is a mandate, and I'm going to explain why.

Now I don't mind the question, but let me be very clear. I'm no supporter of Trump. I'm a supporter of truth and facts. And here's the facts. The man won every swing state. He increased in terms of his vote, his voter turnout, in his favor, from the standpoint of blacks, Latinos and young voters. He increased his numbers in that regard from 2020. 89 percent of the counties shifted to the right. That's a mandate.

We can sit up here and play around all we want to. In 2020, Trump didn't win the popular vote. He didn't win the electoral college vote. As a matter of fact the Republicans have won the popular vote, if I remember correctly, since 2004. But they did this year. So 20 years after they last won a popular vote, they won the popular vote. They won the electoral college vote. The man won every swing state. And on top of it all, 89 percent of the counties shifted (inaudible.)

I don't understand how people can look at that and say "There's no mandate." There's a mandate.
 
Their definition of "landslide" is "a winning vote margin and electoral vote percentage that are both BELOW AVERAGE by historical standards".

It's the alternate universe! It comes with its own dictionary!

:spinner:
Not just the vote margin.


Let me help.



A Democrat far smarter than you wrote this......would you like to debate him?




STEPHEN A. SMITH: It is a mandate, and I'm going to explain why.

Now I don't mind the question, but let me be very clear. I'm no supporter of Trump. I'm a supporter of truth and facts. And here's the facts. The man won every swing state. He increased in terms of his vote, his voter turnout, in his favor, from the standpoint of blacks, Latinos and young voters. He increased his numbers in that regard from 2020. 89 percent of the counties shifted to the right. That's a mandate.

We can sit up here and play around all we want to. In 2020, Trump didn't win the popular vote. He didn't win the electoral college vote. As a matter of fact the Republicans have won the popular vote, if I remember correctly, since 2004. But they did this year. So 20 years after they last won a popular vote, they won the popular vote. They won the electoral college vote. The man won every swing state. And on top of it all, 89 percent of the counties shifted (inaudible.)

I don't understand how people can look at that and say "There's no mandate." There's a mandate.
 
but what is a "landslid" supposedly OP is an "Ivy League" intellectual :rolleyes:
A Democrat far smarter than you wrote this......would you like to debate him?




STEPHEN A. SMITH: It is a mandate, and I'm going to explain why.

Now I don't mind the question, but let me be very clear. I'm no supporter of Trump. I'm a supporter of truth and facts. And here's the facts. The man won every swing state. He increased in terms of his vote, his voter turnout, in his favor, from the standpoint of blacks, Latinos and young voters. He increased his numbers in that regard from 2020. 89 percent of the counties shifted to the right. That's a mandate.

We can sit up here and play around all we want to. In 2020, Trump didn't win the popular vote. He didn't win the electoral college vote. As a matter of fact the Republicans have won the popular vote, if I remember correctly, since 2004. But they did this year. So 20 years after they last won a popular vote, they won the popular vote. They won the electoral college vote. The man won every swing state. And on top of it all, 89 percent of the counties shifted (inaudible.)

I don't understand how people can look at that and say "There's no mandate." There's a mandate.




Which total would you choose, Trump's or the Fascists?
 
The Democratic Party's approval ratings have dived to 29%.

When will they stop blaming, pointing their fingers, and get busy with a new message, anything new for that matter?
They're one big snooze-fest. Even without Joe and Kamala in their way, they still don't have any fresh leadership to help them change course.
Haven't seen you before: welcome to the board and the battles.


This and my previous three OPs are about exactly that, the disunity and conflicts in the party trying to explain the landslide loss, and which direction to chooose from here on.

Some have suggested that this has happened to them before, as in the Carter mess and three national loses before the chose a "new Democrat" and a more reasonable agenda. Clinton actually signed a welfare bill that Obama destroyed.
 
:rolleyes:

Come on Frankie... there was no "landslid" like OP claims.
This is a problem for the party: too many of their followers with their head in the sand.




The election is over, and the debate firmly settled......yet some posters, you, are from the same pattern as Hiroo Onoda......


.... after the Trump victory, are like Hiroo Onoda.
I read his book some time ago....
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"Hiroo Onoda March 19, 1922 January 16, 2014) was an Imperial Japanese Army intelligence officer who fought in World War II and did not surrender in 1945. .... Onoda had spent almost 30 years holding out in the Philippines.[1]" Hiroo Onoda - Wikipedia...

On this board we can all name some dozen Hiroo Onodas who will hold out forever for their beloved lords and masters.


"Kamala's Kommandos" still fighting a war that they lost resoundingly.



Part of the Trump landslide is a religious revival, folks no longer afraid to mention religion and here it is pertinent......
Let me put it this way:

"MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN" you have been weighed ... and found wanting;"


Americans don't want your sort of Fascism here.


Wake the heck up, you dunce.
 
There is no need for a new message. I think you Republicans need to start looking at your party. Trump barely won, and you guys are acting like he got 99 percent of the vote. Between the people who voted for Harris and the people who didn't vote, over 160 million people are opposed to what Republicans have to offer. You are about to get a true reality check
"There is no need for a new message"



1 There are those of us who have been brought up correctly, with the right principles and knowledge of right and wrong



2. Some of us may not have had that start, and been misled by sophistry, but finally saw through it and moved in the right direction.



3. I see that you belong to neither of those categories. But you are not alone: Around 22% of Americans identify as strong Democrats, meaning they are highly likely to consistently vote for Democratic candidates, no matter how many lies and hoaxes are revealed.
 
This is a problem for the party: too many of their followers with their head in the sand.




The election is over, and the debate firmly settled......yet some posters, you, are from the same pattern as Hiroo Onoda......


.... after the Trump victory, are like Hiroo Onoda.
I read his book some time ago....
1735934073153.png




"Hiroo Onoda March 19, 1922 January 16, 2014) was an Imperial Japanese Army intelligence officer who fought in World War II and did not surrender in 1945. .... Onoda had spent almost 30 years holding out in the Philippines.[1]" Hiroo Onoda - Wikipedia...

On this board we can all name some dozen Hiroo Onodas who will hold out forever for their beloved lords and masters.


"Kamala's Kommandos" still fighting a war that they lost resoundingly.



Part of the Trump landslide is a religious revival, folks no longer afraid to mention religion and here it is pertinent......
Let me put it this way:

"MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN" you have been weighed ... and found wanting;"


Americans don't want your sort of Fascism here.


Wake the heck up, you dunce.
On this board we can all name some dozen Hiroo Onodas who will hold out forever for their beloved lords and masters.

lollzz Trumpers, right?
 
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