Democrats say "You cannot touch Social Security, Medicaire and Medicaid!"

[MarathonMike]

What they are REALLY saying is "You cannot unmask and reclaim the hundreds of billions in waste, inefficiency, fraud and abuse!" Just think about that. They would rather protect broken, defrauded and corrupt systems than return hundreds of billions of dollars PER ANNUM back the Treasury! That is how insane the Democrat Party has become.

 

[daveman]

 

[Cougarbear]

What they are REALLY saying is "You cannot unmask and reclaim the hundreds of billions in waste, inefficiency, fraud and abuse!" Just think about that. They would rather protect broken, defrauded and corrupt systems than return hundreds of billions of dollars PER ANNUM back the Treasury! That is how insane the Democrat Party has become.

Well, as we see in the House Bill and from what Trump said at his press conference today, recipients of social security, medicare and medicaid will not change. Waste, fraud and abuse will change which actually could increase benefits for these.

 

[sealybobo]

What they are REALLY saying is "You cannot unmask and reclaim the hundreds of billions in waste, inefficiency, fraud and abuse!" Just think about that. They would rather protect broken, defrauded and corrupt systems than return hundreds of billions of dollars PER ANNUM back the Treasury! That is how insane the Democrat Party has become.

No, what I'm saying is don't cut my benefits. Don't raise my age. I'm 54 and planning to retire at 62 and I want the full amount promised to me. That's what I mean. And medicare. I want what my grandmother and father got. Not what Dr. Oz is trying to sell us. His option sucks. When people go on it, and get sick, they go right back on the old plan. Because his plan sucks.

If you get rid of the waste, fraud and abuse GREAT! That should strengthen those programs right?

 

[MarathonMike]

Democrats don't give a rat's ass about the taxpayer, America's poor, Inner City kids or Veterans. We all know who they care about.

 

[JoeB131]

What they are REALLY saying is "You cannot unmask and reclaim the hundreds of billions in waste, inefficiency, fraud and abuse!" Just think about that. They would rather protect broken, defrauded and corrupt systems than return hundreds of billions of dollars PER ANNUM back the Treasury! That is how insane the Democrat Party has become.

Except there's no evidence that this constitutes all that much.

The government's own estimates that erroneous payments from Social Security constitute only about 10 Billion a year out of a 1.5 TRILLION dollar budget.

Medicare, it's less than 60 Billion out of a 1 Trillion dollar budget.

 

[MarathonMike]

If you get rid of the waste, fraud and abuse GREAT! That should strengthen those programs right?

Well yeah! But the chant from the Democrats and their Media Machine is "YOU CAN"T TOUCH SS, MEDICARE or MEDICAID!". That means DOGE cannot assess current state of the antiquated systems used, they can't have access to the data bases, they can't cut the dead people off the Social Security payroll, etc. That is pure insanity.

 

[sealybobo]

Except there's no evidence that this constitutes all that much.

The government's own estimates that erroneous payments from Social Security constitute only about 10 Billion a year out of a 1.5 TRILLION dollar budget.

Medicare, it's less than 60 Billion out of a 1 Trillion dollar budget.

And we all pay into it. It's where we want our tax dollars going towards.

 

[Foxfyre]

What they are REALLY saying is "You cannot unmask and reclaim the hundreds of billions in waste, inefficiency, fraud and abuse!" Just think about that. They would rather protect broken, defrauded and corrupt systems than return hundreds of billions of dollars PER ANNUM back the Treasury! That is how insane the Democrat Party has become.

Trump has pledged not to touch legal Social Security and Medicare so far as benefits to legal recipients goes. But he sure will go after that being disbursed to people not legally entitled to have it and green light eliminating waste, fraud, inefficiency, corruption from the systems.

Those who claim those wasted amounts--totaling 10s of billions--are so small within a huge HUGE budget they aren't any problem have to be the most fiscally clueless people on Earth.

As the great late Senator Everitt Dirksen has often been quoted as saying: "A billion here, a billion there and pretty soon you're talking about real money!"

A billion dollars is an unimaginable large amount of money to somebody like me. And I worked hard for the hundreds of thousands of dollars I paid in taxes over the 50+ years I was in the workforce.

When that money is deducted from my paycheck or when I write out my check to pay my taxes, I should have every right to expect that the government will treat that money with respect, will use it for something that is beneficial for America and all Americans. I have every right to expect them to treat it with respect and care and get every penny of value possible out of it, and won't waste it via inefficiency, ineffectiveness, incompetence, improper uses, fraud or corruption.

 

[MarathonMike]

Except there's no evidence that this constitutes all that much.

The government's own estimates that erroneous payments from Social Security constitute only about 10 Billion a year out of a 1.5 TRILLION dollar budget.

Medicare, it's less than 60 Billion out of a 1 Trillion dollar budget.

Yeah so why even TRY, right Joe? Just look the other way like administrations have been doing for half a century. You can't fix it all with Medicare savings, so give up and just keep spending. Keep the benefits flowing to dead people. Brilliant.

 

[Dr.Destructo]

After the DemonicRats have drained 90% of OUR hard earned money paid for SS, there isn't much left for anybody to do anything WITH.

 

[sealybobo]

Trump has pledged not to touch legal Social Security and Medicare so far as benefits to legal recipients goes. But he sure will go after that being disbursed to people not legally entitled to have it and green light eliminating waste, fraud, inefficiency, corruption from the systems.

I don't like them lying and telling us 150 year olds are getting SS. They had to know that wasn't true. Come on Elon. Be best.

 

[daveman]

I don't like them lying and telling us 150 year olds are getting SS. They had to know that wasn't true. Come on Elon. Be best.

How do you know it's not true?

I want every single dollar that flows through the government audited.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah so why even TRY, right Joe? Just look the other way like administrations have been doing for half a century. You can't fix it all with Medicare savings, so give up and just keep spending. Keep the benefits flowing to dead people. Brilliant.

except there's no real evidence of Medicare going to dead people. *Unless you are talking about people who died, but their estates have to resolve their medical bills after they die.

Again, if we live in a society where we want to yank benefits from the elderly that they've earned to give tax breaks to billionaires, there is something wrong with our priorities.

 

[Mashmont]

What they are REALLY saying is "You cannot unmask and reclaim the hundreds of billions in waste, inefficiency, fraud and abuse!" Just think about that. They would rather protect broken, defrauded and corrupt systems than return hundreds of billions of dollars PER ANNUM back the Treasury! That is how insane the Democrat Party has become.

Everyone knows that any cuts to those programs against inefficiency or fraud will be lied about by the media. "See? Trump is cutting Social Security!"

 

[JoeB131]

How do you know it's not true?

I want every single dollar that flows through the government audited.

You realize that audting costs money and requires skilled accountants... like the ones Muskrat is currently firing.

 

[Mashmont]

I don't like them lying and telling us 150 year olds are getting SS. They had to know that wasn't true. Come on Elon. Be best.

So who is getting the money sent to these long-dead people? That's the question. That's the fraud.

 

[Mashmont]

You realize that audting costs money and requires skilled accountants... like the ones Muskrat is currently firing.

Just what we need. Deep state 'accountants' -- the ones who cooked the books to begin with. No, it's time to get honest professionals working there. Trump has his A -team doing historic important work.

 

[sealybobo]

So who is getting the money sent to these long-dead people? That's the question. That's the fraud.

It turned out not to be true. You haven't heard?

 

[Godboy]

No, what I'm saying is don't cut my benefits. Don't raise my age. I'm 54 and planning to retire at 62 and I want the full amount promised to me. That's what I mean. And medicare. I want what my grandmother and father got. Not what Dr. Oz is trying to sell us. His option sucks. When people go on it, and get sick, they go right back on the old plan. Because his plan sucks.

If you get rid of the waste, fraud and abuse GREAT! That should strengthen those programs right?

We have to make DRAMATIC cuts to SS, Medicare, Medicaid or Welfare, or this nation will go bankrupt. Which one of those are you willing to sacrifice? I say we dump welfare. How about you?