Democrats can’t win the gerrymander war

[Doc7505]

Democrats can’t win the gerrymander war​

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28 Aug 2025 ~~ By David Daley

Democrats are staring down a gerrymandering Armageddon, and don’t have a lot of good answers. But if they think this current moment is frightening, just wait until the coming reapportionment apocalypse.
Their current gerrymandering problem threatens their hopes of taking back control of the House of Representatives in the 2026 midterms. Reapportionment could be much worse than that, potentially an existential threat that pushes them into a minority for another decade.
How leading Democrats address these two significant challenges will determine whether they can pry back control of Congress, state legislatures and even the White House. But as Republican gerrymanders threaten to metastasize uncontrollably across the national map, Democrats don’t seem to fully understand the math or the depth of their difficulties.
Any day now, Texas will enact a new congressional map that nets as many as five additional GOP seats. This brazen mid-decade power grab will enhance the Republicans’ slender, three-seat majority in the U.S. House — and it won’t stop there. Ohio, Indiana, Missouri and Florida will go next, grabbing the GOP perhaps another six seats. Should Republicans decide to play serious hardball, they could remap North Carolina, Kentucky, Kansas and New Hampshire too.
~Snip~
Democrats are in a hole, and the retaliatory gerrymander of California only gets them a couple of rungs up the ladder. They need a plan that gets them all the way out. Instead of “fighting fire with fire,” and declaring wars that they can’t actually wage for another three years — in the 2028 presidential campaign, that is — they’d be wise to devise such a plan. It has to start with persuading voters in states where the Democratic brand has become toxic to consider them afresh. And it had better start now.

Commentary:
Surprised this comes from Salon....
Democrats are only interested in winning the gerrymander PR war.
t is the same old stand-by for DSA Marxist Democrat Leftists, when the will of the voters is against them: Turn to activist judges, who are more than willing to make findings in Blue states that conservative judges wont do in Red states.
Truth in the matter is that Ultra Blue states are already gerrymandered so 40% GOP voters in state garner less than 20% house seats. Law of diminishing returns is in play.
The article basically says: what the Democrats need is a brilliant plan. It gives no clue as to what the brilliant plan might be, perhaps because they have none.
Democrats have already done what the GOP is doing now.
“Democrats simply control too few states, and they’ve pretty much maxed out the maps in the states where they hold trifecta power.”

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Democrats can’t win the gerrymander war​

MSN

28 Aug 2025 ~~ By David Daley

Democrats are staring down a gerrymandering Armageddon, and don’t have a lot of good answers. But if they think this current moment is frightening, just wait until the coming reapportionment apocalypse.
Their current gerrymandering problem threatens their hopes of taking back control of the House of Representatives in the 2026 midterms. Reapportionment could be much worse than that, potentially an existential threat that pushes them into a minority for another decade.
How leading Democrats address these two significant challenges will determine whether they can pry back control of Congress, state legislatures and even the White House. But as Republican gerrymanders threaten to metastasize uncontrollably across the national map, Democrats don’t seem to fully understand the math or the depth of their difficulties.
Any day now, Texas will enact a new congressional map that nets as many as five additional GOP seats. This brazen mid-decade power grab will enhance the Republicans’ slender, three-seat majority in the U.S. House — and it won’t stop there. Ohio, Indiana, Missouri and Florida will go next, grabbing the GOP perhaps another six seats. Should Republicans decide to play serious hardball, they could remap North Carolina, Kentucky, Kansas and New Hampshire too.
~Snip~
Democrats are in a hole, and the retaliatory gerrymander of California only gets them a couple of rungs up the ladder. They need a plan that gets them all the way out. Instead of “fighting fire with fire,” and declaring wars that they can’t actually wage for another three years — in the 2028 presidential campaign, that is — they’d be wise to devise such a plan. It has to start with persuading voters in states where the Democratic brand has become toxic to consider them afresh. And it had better start now.

Commentary:
Surprised this comes from Salon....
Democrats are only interested in winning the gerrymander PR war.
t is the same old stand-by for DSA Marxist Democrat Leftists, when the will of the voters is against them: Turn to activist judges, who are more than willing to make findings in Blue states that conservative judges wont do in Red states.
Truth in the matter is that Ultra Blue states are already gerrymandered so 40% GOP voters in state garner less than 20% house seats. Law of diminishing returns is in play.
The article basically says: what the Democrats need is a brilliant plan. It gives no clue as to what the brilliant plan might be, perhaps because they have none.
Democrats have already done what the GOP is doing now.
“Democrats simply control too few states, and they’ve pretty much maxed out the maps in the states where they hold trifecta power.”

The Democrats don't have to win the gerrymandering war.

60% of Americans hate Trump's fucked up tariffs and they hate his Big Ugly Bill.

The vast majority of Americans are absolutely disgusted with the Republican Party and how they have allowed Trump to pursue these disastrous policies.....even though most of them privately know these policies are horrible for the country.

A couple of days ago, a Democrat in Iowa won 55% of the vote in a state Senate race in a heavily Trump district. This does not portend well for the Republican Party next year.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Doc7505 is wrong, yet again.

Using the same voting from the last election, the gerrymandering going on would result in a ten seat Dem majority in the House and a 50 50 tie in the Senate.

 

[Independent thinker]

Democrats can’t win the gerrymander war​

MSN

28 Aug 2025 ~~ By David Daley

Democrats are staring down a gerrymandering Armageddon, and don’t have a lot of good answers. But if they think this current moment is frightening, just wait until the coming reapportionment apocalypse.
Their current gerrymandering problem threatens their hopes of taking back control of the House of Representatives in the 2026 midterms. Reapportionment could be much worse than that, potentially an existential threat that pushes them into a minority for another decade.
How leading Democrats address these two significant challenges will determine whether they can pry back control of Congress, state legislatures and even the White House. But as Republican gerrymanders threaten to metastasize uncontrollably across the national map, Democrats don’t seem to fully understand the math or the depth of their difficulties.
Any day now, Texas will enact a new congressional map that nets as many as five additional GOP seats. This brazen mid-decade power grab will enhance the Republicans’ slender, three-seat majority in the U.S. House — and it won’t stop there. Ohio, Indiana, Missouri and Florida will go next, grabbing the GOP perhaps another six seats. Should Republicans decide to play serious hardball, they could remap North Carolina, Kentucky, Kansas and New Hampshire too.
~Snip~
Democrats are in a hole, and the retaliatory gerrymander of California only gets them a couple of rungs up the ladder. They need a plan that gets them all the way out. Instead of “fighting fire with fire,” and declaring wars that they can’t actually wage for another three years — in the 2028 presidential campaign, that is — they’d be wise to devise such a plan. It has to start with persuading voters in states where the Democratic brand has become toxic to consider them afresh. And it had better start now.

Commentary:
Surprised this comes from Salon....
Democrats are only interested in winning the gerrymander PR war.
t is the same old stand-by for DSA Marxist Democrat Leftists, when the will of the voters is against them: Turn to activist judges, who are more than willing to make findings in Blue states that conservative judges wont do in Red states.
Truth in the matter is that Ultra Blue states are already gerrymandered so 40% GOP voters in state garner less than 20% house seats. Law of diminishing returns is in play.
The article basically says: what the Democrats need is a brilliant plan. It gives no clue as to what the brilliant plan might be, perhaps because they have none.
Democrats have already done what the GOP is doing now.
“Democrats simply control too few states, and they’ve pretty much maxed out the maps in the states where they hold trifecta power.”

The bottom line is that democrats may win the gerrymandering PR war while Republicans get more House seats. That's the problem with democrats. Words mean more to them than winning.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The bottom line is that democrats may win the gerrymandering PR war while Republicans get more House seats. That's the problem with democrats. Words mean more to them than winning.

The Dems will come out to 10 to 15 seats majority in the House. Senate is iffy.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

The Dems will come out to 10 to 15 seats majority in the House. Senate is iffy.

It's very possible that the Repugs will steal every House seat in Texas and Florida....including House seats in major cities like Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio.

They will cheat like they have never cheated before next year.

 

[Independent thinker]

The Dems will come out to 10 to 15 seats majority in the House. Senate is iffy.

The House is 50/50. Democrats don't have a prayer in the Senate. But, my post wasn't talking about the election, it was who was going to win the gerrymandering war. Republicans will gerrymander more seats than the dems will. The election is a different story.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

If the voting is the same, then the Dems take the House, the Senate is iffy, and Trump will be impeached.

 

[jackflash]

Democrats can’t win the gerrymander war​

MSN

28 Aug 2025 ~~ By David Daley

Democrats are staring down a gerrymandering Armageddon, and don’t have a lot of good answers. But if they think this current moment is frightening, just wait until the coming reapportionment apocalypse.
Their current gerrymandering problem threatens their hopes of taking back control of the House of Representatives in the 2026 midterms. Reapportionment could be much worse than that, potentially an existential threat that pushes them into a minority for another decade.
How leading Democrats address these two significant challenges will determine whether they can pry back control of Congress, state legislatures and even the White House. But as Republican gerrymanders threaten to metastasize uncontrollably across the national map, Democrats don’t seem to fully understand the math or the depth of their difficulties.
Any day now, Texas will enact a new congressional map that nets as many as five additional GOP seats. This brazen mid-decade power grab will enhance the Republicans’ slender, three-seat majority in the U.S. House — and it won’t stop there. Ohio, Indiana, Missouri and Florida will go next, grabbing the GOP perhaps another six seats. Should Republicans decide to play serious hardball, they could remap North Carolina, Kentucky, Kansas and New Hampshire too.
~Snip~
Democrats are in a hole, and the retaliatory gerrymander of California only gets them a couple of rungs up the ladder. They need a plan that gets them all the way out. Instead of “fighting fire with fire,” and declaring wars that they can’t actually wage for another three years — in the 2028 presidential campaign, that is — they’d be wise to devise such a plan. It has to start with persuading voters in states where the Democratic brand has become toxic to consider them afresh. And it had better start now.

Commentary:
Surprised this comes from Salon....
Democrats are only interested in winning the gerrymander PR war.
t is the same old stand-by for DSA Marxist Democrat Leftists, when the will of the voters is against them: Turn to activist judges, who are more than willing to make findings in Blue states that conservative judges wont do in Red states.
Truth in the matter is that Ultra Blue states are already gerrymandered so 40% GOP voters in state garner less than 20% house seats. Law of diminishing returns is in play.
The article basically says: what the Democrats need is a brilliant plan. It gives no clue as to what the brilliant plan might be, perhaps because they have none.
Democrats have already done what the GOP is doing now.
“Democrats simply control too few states, and they’ve pretty much maxed out the maps in the states where they hold trifecta power.”

Yeah, the gerrymandering is looking to favor the Conservatives heavily going into the midterms. Keeping inflation LOW will benefit the Conservative movement greatly @ the ballot box. It appears to me that the statist left are getting backed into a corner. I keep seeing online that the statist left are @ or close to 33% favorability. Margin of error could be as high as 4% putting the statist left @ a high of 37% favorability, or as low as 29% unfavorably. If the statist left's favorability drops below 30% that's when the writing on the wall becomes visible.

The statist left are completely addicted to their marxinazi ideology/religion of "One World Without Borders"(OWWB) while the vast bulk of folks realize that OWWB is a death sentence for humanity(that's WHY humanity created borders!). Simply put the statist left are not only down in the polls regarding favorability but they have no positive agenda to offer the American constituency. With the gerrymandering added into the mix the forecast for the statist left in the midterm elections looks bleak indeed.

 

[imawhosure]

Democrats can’t win the gerrymander war​

MSN

28 Aug 2025 ~~ By David Daley

Democrats are staring down a gerrymandering Armageddon, and don’t have a lot of good answers. But if they think this current moment is frightening, just wait until the coming reapportionment apocalypse.
Their current gerrymandering problem threatens their hopes of taking back control of the House of Representatives in the 2026 midterms. Reapportionment could be much worse than that, potentially an existential threat that pushes them into a minority for another decade.
How leading Democrats address these two significant challenges will determine whether they can pry back control of Congress, state legislatures and even the White House. But as Republican gerrymanders threaten to metastasize uncontrollably across the national map, Democrats don’t seem to fully understand the math or the depth of their difficulties.
Any day now, Texas will enact a new congressional map that nets as many as five additional GOP seats. This brazen mid-decade power grab will enhance the Republicans’ slender, three-seat majority in the U.S. House — and it won’t stop there. Ohio, Indiana, Missouri and Florida will go next, grabbing the GOP perhaps another six seats. Should Republicans decide to play serious hardball, they could remap North Carolina, Kentucky, Kansas and New Hampshire too.
~Snip~
Democrats are in a hole, and the retaliatory gerrymander of California only gets them a couple of rungs up the ladder. They need a plan that gets them all the way out. Instead of “fighting fire with fire,” and declaring wars that they can’t actually wage for another three years — in the 2028 presidential campaign, that is — they’d be wise to devise such a plan. It has to start with persuading voters in states where the Democratic brand has become toxic to consider them afresh. And it had better start now.

Commentary:
Surprised this comes from Salon....
Democrats are only interested in winning the gerrymander PR war.
t is the same old stand-by for DSA Marxist Democrat Leftists, when the will of the voters is against them: Turn to activist judges, who are more than willing to make findings in Blue states that conservative judges wont do in Red states.
Truth in the matter is that Ultra Blue states are already gerrymandered so 40% GOP voters in state garner less than 20% house seats. Law of diminishing returns is in play.
The article basically says: what the Democrats need is a brilliant plan. It gives no clue as to what the brilliant plan might be, perhaps because they have none.
Democrats have already done what the GOP is doing now.
“Democrats simply control too few states, and they’ve pretty much maxed out the maps in the states where they hold trifecta power.”

The Democrats don't have to win the gerrymandering war.

60% of Americans hate Trump's fucked up tariffs and they hate his Big Ugly Bill.

The vast majority of Americans are absolutely disgusted with the Republican Party and how they have allowed Trump to pursue these disastrous policies.....even though most of them privately know these policies are horrible for the country.

A couple of days ago, a Democrat in Iowa won 55% of the vote in a state Senate race in a heavily Trump district. This does not portend well for the Republican Party next year.

Yeah, the gerrymandering is looking to favor the Conservatives heavily going into the midterms. Keeping inflation LOW will benefit the Conservative movement greatly @ the ballot box. It appears to me that the statist left are getting backed into a corner. I keep seeing online that the statist left are @ or close to 33% favorability. Margin of error could be as high as 4% putting the statist left @ a high of 37% favorability, or as low as 29% unfavorably. If the statist left's favorability drops below 30% that's when the writing on the wall becomes visible.

The statist left are completely addicted to their marxinazi ideology/religion of "One World Without Borders"(OWWB) while the vast bulk of folks realize that OWWB is a death sentence for humanity(that's WHY humanity created borders!). Simply put the statist left are not only down in the polls regarding favorability but they have no positive agenda to offer the American constituency. With the gerrymandering added into the mix the forecast for the statist left in the midterm elections looks bleak indeed.

Fact--------->many Americans are NOT happy with the GOP. Why this is, pertains to QUACKS propagandizing/astro turfing what the GOP has done.

Better fact--> Most Americans can NOT STAND the QUACKS. This is NOT because of what the GOP said, but rather because of what the QUACKS did; mostly to their own constituents!

REALITY----------->the QUACKS are acting all Terminator 2 on here, when in actuality, their whole political party is on life support in the ER. They SING the praises of what happened in Iowa, but refuse to acknowledge that in almost every DEEP BLUE state in 24, the GOP picked up a SIGNIFICANT amount of votes, and that every media source covering it, is admitting the LOVABLE QUACKS, have lost 2.4 million voters, and the GOP has picked them up!

If you want to believe in their QUACKERY, Biden was as smart as Einstein, and Mamala is now the President because Biden...........just didn't want to defeat the GOP that badly.......so put up the (burp) cackling, drunk, buffoon knowing they were going to win! (oh yeah, and Trump is a Russian stooge too, lolololol)

Many Democrats are decent people, they really are. But the people that come here and spin, you couldn't trust them if they told you that "water is wet!" That is why they are called QUACKS!

And can all of you imagine, one of the head QUACKS on here claims he/she/zee has something to do with finance! It told you that if Trump got elected, the market might collapse! It told you, that it wasn't Bidens fault that inflation was at (depending upon who/whom you listen to) a 30, or maybe 50 year high! It STILL comes here and tells you fairy tales with zero proof, just PROJECTIONS! (EXAMPLE--------->what if Trump invades Greenland, what will you say, lolololol) Notice, this clown sounds like a car salesperson. He has to make up stuff to get you to answer the way he wants you to.

Would you invest with this CLOWN?????????????

If all you LEFTISTS want to invest with his no nothing rearend, then PM the charming and delightful MACAFLOOZY, and let us know what you are investing in so we can sell it short, lol. If we want to make double the money, have FLOOZY confer with GWILIKERS, heheheheheheheehehehe.

 

[Doc7505]

It's very possible that the Repugs will steal every House seat in Texas and Florida....including House seats in major cities like Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio.

They will cheat like they have never cheated before next year.

~~~~~~
To Democrats that's good politics, when turned against them it's called cheating....

 

[Edgetho]

Democrats can’t win the gerrymander war​

MSN

28 Aug 2025 ~~ By David Daley

Democrats are staring down a gerrymandering Armageddon, and don’t have a lot of good answers. But if they think this current moment is frightening, just wait until the coming reapportionment apocalypse.
Their current gerrymandering problem threatens their hopes of taking back control of the House of Representatives in the 2026 midterms. Reapportionment could be much worse than that, potentially an existential threat that pushes them into a minority for another decade.
How leading Democrats address these two significant challenges will determine whether they can pry back control of Congress, state legislatures and even the White House. But as Republican gerrymanders threaten to metastasize uncontrollably across the national map, Democrats don’t seem to fully understand the math or the depth of their difficulties.
Any day now, Texas will enact a new congressional map that nets as many as five additional GOP seats. This brazen mid-decade power grab will enhance the Republicans’ slender, three-seat majority in the U.S. House — and it won’t stop there. Ohio, Indiana, Missouri and Florida will go next, grabbing the GOP perhaps another six seats. Should Republicans decide to play serious hardball, they could remap North Carolina, Kentucky, Kansas and New Hampshire too.
~Snip~
Democrats are in a hole, and the retaliatory gerrymander of California only gets them a couple of rungs up the ladder. They need a plan that gets them all the way out. Instead of “fighting fire with fire,” and declaring wars that they can’t actually wage for another three years — in the 2028 presidential campaign, that is — they’d be wise to devise such a plan. It has to start with persuading voters in states where the Democratic brand has become toxic to consider them afresh. And it had better start now.

Commentary:
Surprised this comes from Salon....
Democrats are only interested in winning the gerrymander PR war.
t is the same old stand-by for DSA Marxist Democrat Leftists, when the will of the voters is against them: Turn to activist judges, who are more than willing to make findings in Blue states that conservative judges wont do in Red states.
Truth in the matter is that Ultra Blue states are already gerrymandered so 40% GOP voters in state garner less than 20% house seats. Law of diminishing returns is in play.
The article basically says: what the Democrats need is a brilliant plan. It gives no clue as to what the brilliant plan might be, perhaps because they have none.
Democrats have already done what the GOP is doing now.
“Democrats simply control too few states, and they’ve pretty much maxed out the maps in the states where they hold trifecta power.”

Ever notice? Everything dimocrap scum do is about Strategy. Or Packaging. Or Messaging. They approach Elections like a General would approach a coming Major Battle. Strategy, taking the high ground, controlling the message, choosing the battlefield where to place assets....

Never about Policy. Never about doing the Right Thing. Never about the Moral Thing. Never about the American Thing.

Never.

they are a despicable organization and their voters are even worse.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Ever notice? Everything dimocrap scum do is about Strategy. Or Packaging. Or Messaging. They approach Elections like a General would approach a coming Major Battle. Strategy, taking the high ground, controlling the message, choosing the battlefield where to place assets....

Never about Policy. Never about doing the Right Thing. Never about the Moral Thing. Never about the American Thing.

Never.

they are a despicable organization and their voters are even worse.

MAGA is never about the right thing. Never.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Dems will win the gerrymander hands down.

 

[whitehall]

Like every other issue the democrat party is on the wrong side of, they depend on the total support of the mainstream media but the mainstream media is falling apart too.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

~~~~~~
To Democrats that's good politics, when turned against them it's called cheating....

You worthless, incompetent ***** couldn't win an election in a major U.S. city no matter how hard you tried.

 

[Doc7505]

Fact--------->many Americans are NOT happy with the GOP. Why this is, pertains to QUACKS propagandizing/astro turfing what the GOP has done.

Better fact--> Most Americans can NOT STAND the QUACKS. This is NOT because of what the GOP said, but rather because of what the QUACKS did; mostly to their own constituents!

REALITY----------->the QUACKS are acting all Terminator 2 on here, when in actuality, their whole political party is on life support in the ER. They SING the praises of what happened in Iowa, but refuse to acknowledge that in almost every DEEP BLUE state in 24, the GOP picked up a SIGNIFICANT amount of votes, and that every media source covering it, is admitting the LOVABLE QUACKS, have lost 2.4 million voters, and the GOP has picked them up!

If you want to believe in their QUACKERY, Biden was as smart as Einstein, and Mamala is now the President because Biden...........just didn't want to defeat the GOP that badly.......so put up the (burp) cackling, drunk, buffoon knowing they were going to win! (oh yeah, and Trump is a Russian stooge too, lolololol)

Many Democrats are decent people, they really are. But the people that come here and spin, you couldn't trust them if they told you that "water is wet!" That is why they are called QUACKS!

And can all of you imagine, one of the head QUACKS on here claims he/she/zee has something to do with finance! It told you that if Trump got elected, the market might collapse! It told you, that it wasn't Bidens fault that inflation was at (depending upon who/whom you listen to) a 30, or maybe 50 year high! It STILL comes here and tells you fairy tales with zero proof, just PROJECTIONS! (EXAMPLE--------->what if Trump invades Greenland, what will you say, lolololol) Notice, this clown sounds like a car salesperson. He has to make up stuff to get you to answer the way he wants you to.

Would you invest with this CLOWN?????????????

If all you LEFTISTS want to invest with his no nothing rearend, then PM the charming and delightful MACAFLOOZY, and let us know what you are investing in so we can sell it short, lol. If we want to make double the money, have FLOOZY confer with GWILIKERS, heheheheheheheehehehe.

~~~~~~
You omitted the representatives of the DSA Marxist Democrats in Congress that promise all and give nothing in return but higher taxes, DEI, defunding of the military, and turned our nation into a laughing stock on foreign policy.

 

[Doc7505]

Dems will win the gerrymander hands down.

~~~~~~
They may hang on in Blue States but will lose in the more than 30 Red States.

 

[Old Rocks]

Doc7505 is wrong, yet again.

Using the same voting from the last election, the gerrymandering going on would result in a ten seat Dem majority in the House and a 50 50 tie in the Senate.

By the end of 2026, there will be enough pain in the previously rural red areas that we may see a much larger Dem majority than that, and many previously MAGAt GOP reps ready to vote with Dems simply assure their seats in 2028. Look at the reception that GOP reps and senators have been getting in solidly red districts and states.

 

[Old Rocks]

~~~~~~
They may hang on in Blue States but will lose in the more than 30 Red States.

Not all the red states will go along with this simply because of the goose and gander problem.