Democrats 1984

[80zephyr]

When Orwell wrote his book, he understood very well who the "bad guys" were.

So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot. George Orwell

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

Mark

Making up fake quotes is fun, innit.

​

Posta please.

The quotes are attributed to George Orwell. So you are asking for a second hand reference to his quotes? No sir. My attribution is correct. Unless you feel that you can disprove them, they will stand.

Mark

I don't NEED to "disprove" it, stickypants --- YOU NEED TO VALIDATE IT..

YOU put 'em up there, and I want your source. Get fucking busy or take the shame.

My source? Like I said, George Orwell. If you need a source for a source, thats your problem.

Mark

 

[80zephyr]

When Orwell wrote his book, he understood very well who the "bad guys" were.

So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot. George Orwell

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

Mark

Making up fake quotes is fun, innit.

​

Posta please.

Prove he didn't those things.

Liberal: a power worshipper without power.

– George Orwell

You don't "prove a negative", Sparkles. When you make an ass-ertion, you take the burden of proof with it. It's the job of the poster of fake quotes to prove the source, no one else's.

Wasn't even your claim anyway.

What you have there is one of gazillions of "quotes" sites with NO SOURCE ATTRIBUTION. As I just said, anybody can make shit up without attribution. I just did the same thing with Lincoln.

Find me a valid source and prove my skepticism wrong. Aaaaaand GO.

What is a valid source?

Mark

A valid source is something Orwell actually published containing that line, from which it was quoted.

Whatcha got?

Nothing?

Yeah I hear you combing the internet looking for something. Anything. Don't bother, I already did. Which is what you should have done before you put up a fake quote.

Here's the irony of all this, Hunior. By posting a fake quote from George Orwell of all people you're engaging in exactly the same thing Orwell's "Ministry of Truth" did. You're proving his point.

Good job Homer.

Are you now saying that only a quote from a book Orwell wrote is to be believed? That he couldn't have been quoted by a reporter or from a speech?

Is that what you are saying?

Mark

 

[Pogo]

Making up fake quotes is fun, innit.

​

Posta please.

Prove he didn't those things.

Liberal: a power worshipper without power.

– George Orwell

You don't "prove a negative", Sparkles. When you make an ass-ertion, you take the burden of proof with it. It's the job of the poster of fake quotes to prove the source, no one else's.

Wasn't even your claim anyway.

What you have there is one of gazillions of "quotes" sites with NO SOURCE ATTRIBUTION. As I just said, anybody can make shit up without attribution. I just did the same thing with Lincoln.

Find me a valid source and prove my skepticism wrong. Aaaaaand GO.

What is a valid source?

Mark

A valid source is something Orwell actually published containing that line, from which it was quoted.

Whatcha got?

Nothing?

Yeah I hear you combing the internet looking for something. Anything. Don't bother, I already did. Which is what you should have done before you put up a fake quote.

Here's the irony of all this, Hunior. By posting a fake quote from George Orwell of all people you're engaging in exactly the same thing Orwell's "Ministry of Truth" did. You're proving his point.

Good job Homer.

Are you now saying that only a quote from a book Orwell wrote is to be believed? That he couldn't have been quoted by a reporter or from a speech?

Is that what you are saying?

Mark

I'm saying, I gave you all day to come up with a source, and you can't do it.

And NO, some echoblog site parroting the same unsourced quote another echobabble site did, is not in any way a source.

 

[80zephyr]

Prove he didn't those things.

Liberal: a power worshipper without power.

– George Orwell

You don't "prove a negative", Sparkles. When you make an ass-ertion, you take the burden of proof with it. It's the job of the poster of fake quotes to prove the source, no one else's.

Wasn't even your claim anyway.

What you have there is one of gazillions of "quotes" sites with NO SOURCE ATTRIBUTION. As I just said, anybody can make shit up without attribution. I just did the same thing with Lincoln.

Find me a valid source and prove my skepticism wrong. Aaaaaand GO.

What is a valid source?

Mark

A valid source is something Orwell actually published containing that line, from which it was quoted.

Whatcha got?

Nothing?

Yeah I hear you combing the internet looking for something. Anything. Don't bother, I already did. Which is what you should have done before you put up a fake quote.

Here's the irony of all this, Hunior. By posting a fake quote from George Orwell of all people you're engaging in exactly the same thing Orwell's "Ministry of Truth" did. You're proving his point.

Good job Homer.

Are you now saying that only a quote from a book Orwell wrote is to be believed? That he couldn't have been quoted by a reporter or from a speech?

Is that what you are saying?

Mark

I'm saying, I gave you all day to come up with a source, and you can't do it.

And NO, some echoblog site parroting the same unsourced quote another echobabble site did, is not in any way a source.

I'm not gonna hunt for a quote. Especially if you believe it has to be in one of his books. He was much more than his books.

Mark

 

[Pogo]

When Orwell wrote his book, he understood very well who the "bad guys" were.

So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot. George Orwell

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

Mark

Making up fake quotes is fun, innit.

​

Posta please.

The quotes are attributed to George Orwell. So you are asking for a second hand reference to his quotes? No sir. My attribution is correct. Unless you feel that you can disprove them, they will stand.

Mark

I don't NEED to "disprove" it, stickypants --- YOU NEED TO VALIDATE IT..

YOU put 'em up there, and I want your source. Get fucking busy or take the shame.

My source? Like I said, George Orwell. If you need a source for a source, thats your problem.

Mark

NO sweetcheeks, it's YOURS.

YOU posted it as if it were real.

YOU have the burden of proving it is.

PERIOD.

You don't "prove a negative", Sparkles. When you make an ass-ertion, you take the burden of proof with it. It's the job of the poster of fake quotes to prove the source, no one else's.

Wasn't even your claim anyway.

What you have there is one of gazillions of "quotes" sites with NO SOURCE ATTRIBUTION. As I just said, anybody can make shit up without attribution. I just did the same thing with Lincoln.

Find me a valid source and prove my skepticism wrong. Aaaaaand GO.

What is a valid source?

Mark

A valid source is something Orwell actually published containing that line, from which it was quoted.

Whatcha got?

Nothing?

Yeah I hear you combing the internet looking for something. Anything. Don't bother, I already did. Which is what you should have done before you put up a fake quote.

Here's the irony of all this, Hunior. By posting a fake quote from George Orwell of all people you're engaging in exactly the same thing Orwell's "Ministry of Truth" did. You're proving his point.

Good job Homer.

Are you now saying that only a quote from a book Orwell wrote is to be believed? That he couldn't have been quoted by a reporter or from a speech?

Is that what you are saying?

Mark

I'm saying, I gave you all day to come up with a source, and you can't do it.

And NO, some echoblog site parroting the same unsourced quote another echobabble site did, is not in any way a source.

I'm not gonna hunt for a quote. Especially if you believe it has to be in one of his books. He was much more than his books.

Mark

You'd be wasting your time if you did. So you concede that it's a fake quote. Do you also concede that you should have vetted it before you posted a fake quote?

I knew that was bullshit as soon as I smelled it. Why the fuck would George Orwell make a statement like that about Liberalism?

 

[Marion Morrison]

There a movie called 1984 it reminds me of our current democrat party.

Big brother controls everything in the movie controled by the elite.
We have more democrats that are openly socialist aka neo communist.

They want to control every aspect of our lives.

You see it more and more.

You actually think "1984" is a MOVIE. Doesn't that speak volumes.

Is it in line with the book, or no?

The only movie I've ever seen true to the book was the original cartoon "The Hobbit".

Every other one has been a disappointment. Not a damn one has been true to the book except that one.

 

[80zephyr]

When Orwell wrote his book, he understood very well who the "bad guys" were.

So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot. George Orwell

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

Mark

Making up fake quotes is fun, innit.

​

Posta please.

The quotes are attributed to George Orwell. So you are asking for a second hand reference to his quotes? No sir. My attribution is correct. Unless you feel that you can disprove them, they will stand.

Mark

I don't NEED to "disprove" it, stickypants --- YOU NEED TO VALIDATE IT..

YOU put 'em up there, and I want your source. Get fucking busy or take the shame.

My source? Like I said, George Orwell. If you need a source for a source, thats your problem.

Mark

NO sweetcheeks, it's YOURS.

YOU posted it as if it were real.

YOU have the burden of proving it is.

PERIOD.

What is a valid source?

Mark

A valid source is something Orwell actually published containing that line, from which it was quoted.

Whatcha got?

Nothing?

Yeah I hear you combing the internet looking for something. Anything. Don't bother, I already did. Which is what you should have done before you put up a fake quote.

Here's the irony of all this, Hunior. By posting a fake quote from George Orwell of all people you're engaging in exactly the same thing Orwell's "Ministry of Truth" did. You're proving his point.

Good job Homer.

Are you now saying that only a quote from a book Orwell wrote is to be believed? That he couldn't have been quoted by a reporter or from a speech?

Is that what you are saying?

Mark

I'm saying, I gave you all day to come up with a source, and you can't do it.

And NO, some echoblog site parroting the same unsourced quote another echobabble site did, is not in any way a source.

I'm not gonna hunt for a quote. Especially if you believe it has to be in one of his books. He was much more than his books.

Mark

You'd be wasting your time if you did. So you concede that it's a fake quote. Do you also concede that you should have vetted it before you posted a fake quote?

I knew that was bullshit as soon as I smelled it. Why the fuck would George Orwell make a statement like that about Liberalism?

Why wouldn't he have? The book Animal Farm is a critique of Soviet Russia.

Mark

 

[Pogo]

There a movie called 1984 it reminds me of our current democrat party.

Big brother controls everything in the movie controled by the elite.
We have more democrats that are openly socialist aka neo communist.

They want to control every aspect of our lives.

You see it more and more.

You actually think "1984" is a MOVIE. Doesn't that speak volumes.

Is it in line with the book, or no?

The only movie I've ever seen true to the book was the original cartoon "The Hobbit".

Every other one has been a disappointment. Not a damn one has been true to the book except that one.

I've actually seen the 1950s one, the one with Richard Burton in it. It was eminently forgettable.

I submit that movies are intrinsically an inferior medium for the same reason television is --- all the images, characters, scenery, speech, everything --- is dictated into the brain while the viewer is told to sit down and shut up. A book on the other hand lets the imagination run and fill all that in to one's personal tastes. In terms of imagination the book is "alive" while the film is a cadaver -- completely constricted to what the director thought should or shouldn't go in there, and how.

That, and invariably some of the various subplots and nuances the book goes into are either cut out, or morphed into something that never was there, for the purpose of holding an audience --- which is all a movie's purpose is anyway.

Back in 1915 D.W. Griffith's "Birth of a Nation" depicted the Klan burning crosses. That had never happened historically. He just tossed it in there for image effect. The only reason the real-life Klan started doing it is because founder Simmons saw the movie image and emulated it. So much for "authenticity".

 

[Pogo]

Making up fake quotes is fun, innit.

​

Posta please.

The quotes are attributed to George Orwell. So you are asking for a second hand reference to his quotes? No sir. My attribution is correct. Unless you feel that you can disprove them, they will stand.

Mark

I don't NEED to "disprove" it, stickypants --- YOU NEED TO VALIDATE IT..

YOU put 'em up there, and I want your source. Get fucking busy or take the shame.

My source? Like I said, George Orwell. If you need a source for a source, thats your problem.

Mark

NO sweetcheeks, it's YOURS.

YOU posted it as if it were real.

YOU have the burden of proving it is.

PERIOD.

A valid source is something Orwell actually published containing that line, from which it was quoted.

Whatcha got?

Nothing?

Yeah I hear you combing the internet looking for something. Anything. Don't bother, I already did. Which is what you should have done before you put up a fake quote.

Here's the irony of all this, Hunior. By posting a fake quote from George Orwell of all people you're engaging in exactly the same thing Orwell's "Ministry of Truth" did. You're proving his point.

Good job Homer.

Are you now saying that only a quote from a book Orwell wrote is to be believed? That he couldn't have been quoted by a reporter or from a speech?

Is that what you are saying?

Mark

I'm saying, I gave you all day to come up with a source, and you can't do it.

And NO, some echoblog site parroting the same unsourced quote another echobabble site did, is not in any way a source.

I'm not gonna hunt for a quote. Especially if you believe it has to be in one of his books. He was much more than his books.

Mark

You'd be wasting your time if you did. So you concede that it's a fake quote. Do you also concede that you should have vetted it before you posted a fake quote?

I knew that was bullshit as soon as I smelled it. Why the fuck would George Orwell make a statement like that about Liberalism?

Why wouldn't he have? The book Animal Farm is a critique of Soviet Russia.

Mark

Dafuck does that have to do with Liberalism?

 

[Marion Morrison]

There a movie called 1984 it reminds me of our current democrat party.

Big brother controls everything in the movie controled by the elite.
We have more democrats that are openly socialist aka neo communist.

They want to control every aspect of our lives.

You see it more and more.

You actually think "1984" is a MOVIE. Doesn't that speak volumes.

Is it in line with the book, or no?

The only movie I've ever seen true to the book was the original cartoon "The Hobbit".

Every other one has been a disappointment. Not a damn one has been true to the book except that one.

I've actually seen the 1950s one, the one with Richard Burton in it. It was eminently forgettable.

I submit that movies are intrinsically an inferior medium for the same reason television is --- all the images, characters, scenery, speech, everything --- is dictated into the brain while the viewer is told to sit down and shut up. A book on the other hand lets the imagination run and fill all that in to one's personal tastes. In terms of imagination the book is "alive" while the film is a cadaver -- completely constricted to what the director thought should or shouldn't go in there, and how.

That, and invariably some of the various subplots and nuances the book goes into are either cut out, or morphed into something that never was there, for the purpose of holding an audience --- which is all a movie's purpose is anyway.

Back in 1915 D.W. Griffith's "Birth of a Nation" depicted the Klan burning crosses. That had never happened historically. He just tossed it in there for image effect. The only reason the real-life Klan started doing it is because founder Simmons saw the movie image and emulated it. So much for "authenticity".

I don't necessarily like you, but that was spot on!

 

[Aponi]

1984 was released in 1956 and another movie in 1984. Both based upon the book. You didn't know it was a movie, that speaks volumes.

Correct. I don't do "movies". Fuck "movies".

1984 was written in 1948 (transposition: 48/84, also 35 years in the future) and published in 1949. If you get your education from fucking "movies" ----- which exist to sell popcorn ---- then that speaks way more volumes.

No you moron i dont get my education from movies you dumb bastard.I said the new democrats always remind me of it .they are all about goverment control you lug nut

Well apparently you do since you characterized 1984 as a "movie" right at the outset in your own OP.

Let's watch it, shall we? Roll tape.

There a movie called 1984

First five words of the thread. Cat's outta the bag. You had no idea there was a book and have never even touched it.

Nope never did read the book yes I knew there was one cats out of the bag your a moron who assumes making a total ass out of him or her self

I just exposed YOU didn't I?

Not that it was a challenge. You dug your own hole.

The good news is, Rump "loves the poorly educated".

honey the only thing you exposed is the space between your ears and you ego

 

[Faun]

There a movie called 1984 it reminds me of our current democrat party.

Big brother controls everything in the movie controled by the elite.
We have more democrats that are openly socialist aka neo communist.

They want to control every aspect of our lives.

You see it more and more.

The Republicans created the Department of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act. Wasn't J. Edgar Hoover a Republican?

funny how republicans ignore that and act like it never happened..

the PA is the single biggest violation of the bill of rights in the history of the country and it was done by republicans,,,

OH and it was written by joe biden

Utter nonsense. Jim Sensenbrenner wrote it...

Author of Patriot Act says NSA phone records collection 'never the intent' of law

If you’re gonna whine like a little girl, at least know what you’re whining about.

 

[Aponi]

There a movie called 1984 it reminds me of our current democrat party.

Big brother controls everything in the movie controled by the elite.
We have more democrats that are openly socialist aka neo communist.

They want to control every aspect of our lives.

You see it more and more.

The Republicans created the Department of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act. Wasn't J. Edgar Hoover a Republican?

funny how republicans ignore that and act like it never happened..

the PA is the single biggest violation of the bill of rights in the history of the country and it was done by republicans,,,

OH and it was written by joe biden

Utter nonsense. Jim Sensenbrenner wrote it...

Author of Patriot Act says NSA phone records collection 'never the intent' of law

If you’re gonna whine like a little girl, at least know what you’re whining about.

Yes jim did write it

 

[Aponi]

we really wont have to worry to much about it for a but the 2 bigest nut bar learders are cortez and bernie then omar harris etc for now the more they open their mouth the more moderate and the few blue dogs that are let with look at them as nuts but young people dont know better . a slick well spoken runner like obama coyld change that that had their values

 

[rightwinger]

There a movie called 1984 it reminds me of our current democrat party.

Big brother controls everything in the movie controled by the elite.
We have more democrats that are openly socialist aka neo communist.

They want to control every aspect of our lives.

You see it more and more.

You actually think "1984" is a MOVIE. Doesn't that speak volumes.

Shows Republican educational reforms are paying off

 

[progressive hunter]

There a movie called 1984 it reminds me of our current democrat party.

Big brother controls everything in the movie controled by the elite.
We have more democrats that are openly socialist aka neo communist.

They want to control every aspect of our lives.

You see it more and more.

The Republicans created the Department of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act. Wasn't J. Edgar Hoover a Republican?

funny how republicans ignore that and act like it never happened..

the PA is the single biggest violation of the bill of rights in the history of the country and it was done by republicans,,,

OH and it was written by joe biden

Utter nonsense. Jim Sensenbrenner wrote it...

Author of Patriot Act says NSA phone records collection 'never the intent' of law

If you’re gonna whine like a little girl, at least know what you’re whining about.

Yes jim did write it

Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995 - Wikipedia

 

[progressive hunter]

There a movie called 1984 it reminds me of our current democrat party.

Big brother controls everything in the movie controled by the elite.
We have more democrats that are openly socialist aka neo communist.

They want to control every aspect of our lives.

You see it more and more.

The Republicans created the Department of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act. Wasn't J. Edgar Hoover a Republican?

funny how republicans ignore that and act like it never happened..

the PA is the single biggest violation of the bill of rights in the history of the country and it was done by republicans,,,

OH and it was written by joe biden

Utter nonsense. Jim Sensenbrenner wrote it...

Author of Patriot Act says NSA phone records collection 'never the intent' of law

If you’re gonna whine like a little girl, at least know what you’re whining about.

he plagiarized it from joes work,,,

and it really doesnt matter who wrote it,,

it was the republicans that passed it with the help of democrats

 

[Faun]

There a movie called 1984 it reminds me of our current democrat party.

Big brother controls everything in the movie controled by the elite.
We have more democrats that are openly socialist aka neo communist.

They want to control every aspect of our lives.

You see it more and more.

The Republicans created the Department of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act. Wasn't J. Edgar Hoover a Republican?

funny how republicans ignore that and act like it never happened..

the PA is the single biggest violation of the bill of rights in the history of the country and it was done by republicans,,,

OH and it was written by joe biden

Utter nonsense. Jim Sensenbrenner wrote it...

Author of Patriot Act says NSA phone records collection 'never the intent' of law

If you’re gonna whine like a little girl, at least know what you’re whining about.

Yes jim did write it

Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995 - Wikipedia

Holyfuckingshit

That’s not the Patriot Act.

 

[progressive hunter]

The Republicans created the Department of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act. Wasn't J. Edgar Hoover a Republican?

funny how republicans ignore that and act like it never happened..

the PA is the single biggest violation of the bill of rights in the history of the country and it was done by republicans,,,

OH and it was written by joe biden

Utter nonsense. Jim Sensenbrenner wrote it...

Author of Patriot Act says NSA phone records collection 'never the intent' of law

If you’re gonna whine like a little girl, at least know what you’re whining about.

Yes jim did write it

Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995 - Wikipedia

Holyfuckingshit

That’s not the Patriot Act.

cant get anything past you

 

[Marion Morrison]

The Republicans created the Department of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act. Wasn't J. Edgar Hoover a Republican?

funny how republicans ignore that and act like it never happened..

the PA is the single biggest violation of the bill of rights in the history of the country and it was done by republicans,,,

OH and it was written by joe biden

Utter nonsense. Jim Sensenbrenner wrote it...

Author of Patriot Act says NSA phone records collection 'never the intent' of law

If you’re gonna whine like a little girl, at least know what you’re whining about.

Yes jim did write it

Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995 - Wikipedia

Holyfuckingshit

That’s not the Patriot Act.

Ayep, "The Patriot Act" (What a farce!) came after 2001.

Whenever they push a bill like that, it's the opposite of whatever they claim it is.

Oh ok, it's your twin I'm arguing with in another thread.