Dem Senators: Frank's Take:

[VaYank5150]

Oh wait, let me finish because I sometimes give people too much credit for having any intelligence.

Our Soldiers, the same ones Kerry thinks are stupid, get justice from a military tribunal, the same as KSM got under Bush. However, the Democrat Senators are saying that Islamists and Jihadists Enemy Combatants and War Criminals deserve BETTER treatment than out fighting men and women; that was the point of the Title and OP.

OUR men and women soldiers are actually part of an ARMY. Islamic Jihadists are not, but rather, mere criminals. Hence, no military tribunal. What part of this do you NOT understand?

 

[California Girl]

Osama bin Laden, you have the right to remain silent.

Remind me again, why do we need Democrats? Is there any reason?

so that society can actually progress. I think civil rights, womens rights, the coming gay rights, adoption of stem cell research, flattening of the war on drugs, etc are all good things that would never come from a christian dictatorship like the GOP wants to impose. the dark ages already erased 1000 years of progress from the wrold, don't need the church imposing that again

Can you provide a link to your claim that the GOP wants to impose a Christian dictatorship? Thanks.

 

[Oddball]

OUR men and women soldiers are actually part of an ARMY. Islamic Jihadists are not, but rather, mere criminals. Hence, no military tribunal. What part of this do you NOT understand?

Normally, combatants without any military affiliation (i.e. maquisards, partisans, spies and guerrillas) have been summarily shot.

Would that make you feel better?

 

[VaYank5150]

OUR men and women soldiers are actually part of an ARMY. Islamic Jihadists are not, but rather, mere criminals. Hence, no military tribunal. What part of this do you NOT understand?

Normally, combatants without any military affiliation (i.e. maquisards, partisans, spies and guerrillas) have been summarily shot.

Would that make you feel better?

Shot BEFORE they were captured? Yes.

 

[California Girl]

Well, you Fabian socialists have been in charge of the gubmint schools for a few decades now...Is this lack of education you can see in others supposed to be some kind of evidence of success?

What a dumb answer. Not really much you can say though when someone cuts you down to size.

whoooooosh

Sadly, there wasn't even a need to duck.... it went so far over the head of that poster that it could have hit the space station.

 

[Oddball]

OUR men and women soldiers are actually part of an ARMY. Islamic Jihadists are not, but rather, mere criminals. Hence, no military tribunal. What part of this do you NOT understand?

Normally, combatants without any military affiliation (i.e. maquisards, partisans, spies and guerrillas) have been summarily shot.

Would that make you feel better?

Shot BEFORE they were captured? Yes.

Wrong...The traditional method of disposing of combatants without military affiliation has been summary execution...Period.

And the Geneva Convention doesn't apply to them, either.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Oh wait, let me finish because I sometimes give people too much credit for having any intelligence.

Our Soldiers, the same ones Kerry thinks are stupid, get justice from a military tribunal, the same as KSM got under Bush. However, the Democrat Senators are saying that Islamists and Jihadists Enemy Combatants and War Criminals deserve BETTER treatment than out fighting men and women; that was the point of the Title and OP.

OUR men and women soldiers are actually part of an ARMY. Islamic Jihadists are not, but rather, mere criminals. Hence, no military tribunal. What part of this do you NOT understand?

So we have to Mirandize Islamisists caught planting IED's?

Are Marines allowed to return fire or must they first try to apprehend the perp?

 

[California Girl]

OUR men and women soldiers are actually part of an ARMY. Islamic Jihadists are not, but rather, mere criminals. Hence, no military tribunal. What part of this do you NOT understand?

Normally, combatants without any military affiliation (i.e. maquisards, partisans, spies and guerrillas) have been summarily shot.

Would that make you feel better?

That's a sensible solution!

 

[VaYank5150]

Oh wait, let me finish because I sometimes give people too much credit for having any intelligence.

Our Soldiers, the same ones Kerry thinks are stupid, get justice from a military tribunal, the same as KSM got under Bush. However, the Democrat Senators are saying that Islamists and Jihadists Enemy Combatants and War Criminals deserve BETTER treatment than out fighting men and women; that was the point of the Title and OP.

OUR men and women soldiers are actually part of an ARMY. Islamic Jihadists are not, but rather, mere criminals. Hence, no military tribunal. What part of this do you NOT understand?

So we have to Mirandize Islamisists caught planting IED's?

Are Marines allowed to return fire or must they first try to apprehend the perp?

Here's some good parallels: Timothy McVeigh. Ted Kaczynski. Were they tried by military tribunals?

 

[Oddball]

OUR men and women soldiers are actually part of an ARMY. Islamic Jihadists are not, but rather, mere criminals. Hence, no military tribunal. What part of this do you NOT understand?

So we have to Mirandize Islamisists caught planting IED's?

Are Marines allowed to return fire or must they first try to apprehend the perp?

Here's some good parallels: Timothy McVeigh. Ted Kaczynski. Were they tried by military tribunals?

They were American citizens, not foreign nationals....You're not this dense.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

OUR men and women soldiers are actually part of an ARMY. Islamic Jihadists are not, but rather, mere criminals. Hence, no military tribunal. What part of this do you NOT understand?

So we have to Mirandize Islamisists caught planting IED's?

Are Marines allowed to return fire or must they first try to apprehend the perp?

Here's some good parallels: Timothy McVeigh. Ted Kaczynski. Were they tried by military tribunals?

Yeah, ignoring the Al Qaeda link in OKC worked great for us! Does John Doe #2 look like someone we know?

 

[California Girl]

So we have to Mirandize Islamisists caught planting IED's?

Are Marines allowed to return fire or must they first try to apprehend the perp?

Here's some good parallels: Timothy McVeigh. Ted Kaczynski. Were they tried by military tribunals?

They were American citizens, not foreign nationals....You're not this dense.

I don't often tell you you're wrong, Dude.... but in this case I think the last part of your sentence was wrong.

 

[VaYank5150]

So we have to Mirandize Islamisists caught planting IED's?

Are Marines allowed to return fire or must they first try to apprehend the perp?

Here's some good parallels: Timothy McVeigh. Ted Kaczynski. Were they tried by military tribunals?

They were American citizens, not foreign nationals....You're not this dense.

Good point Dude (damn that hurts to say). I retract my attempt at parallels.

EDIT: How about Richard Reid?

 

[Oddball]

Good point Dude (damn that hurts to say). I retract my attempt at parallels.

EDIT: How about Richard Reid?

What about the Mexican nationals that have raped and murdered in America, and then tried to claim immunity?

Not that I'm advocating summary executions for domestic criminal acts, but if you're determined to go down this road.....

 

[VaYank5150]

Good point Dude (damn that hurts to say). I retract my attempt at parallels.

EDIT: How about Richard Reid?

What about the Mexican nationals that have raped and murdered in America, and then tried to claim immunity?

Not that I'm advocating summary executions for domestic criminal acts, but if you're determined to go down this road.....

Which road are we on at this point? Killing on the spot or US justice system versus military tribunals?

 

[California Girl]

Good point Dude (damn that hurts to say). I retract my attempt at parallels.

EDIT: How about Richard Reid?

What about the Mexican nationals that have raped and murdered in America, and then tried to claim immunity?

Not that I'm advocating summary executions for domestic criminal acts, but if you're determined to go down this road.....

You first have to work out that you're both actually traveling in the same direction. At this point VaYank seems to be walking in another direction entirely - in that he is unable to grasp the difference between those captured in the field of conflict, US citizens commiting terrorist acts against their own country, and other criminals generally. Until he turns around - whether its on the same road or another one, he at least needs to be traveling in the same direction.

 

[VaYank5150]

Good point Dude (damn that hurts to say). I retract my attempt at parallels.

EDIT: How about Richard Reid?

What about the Mexican nationals that have raped and murdered in America, and then tried to claim immunity?

Not that I'm advocating summary executions for domestic criminal acts, but if you're determined to go down this road.....

You first have to work out that you're both actually traveling in the same direction. At this point VaYank seems to be walking in another direction entirely - in that he is unable to grasp the difference between those captured in the field of conflict, US citizens commiting terrorist acts against their own country, and other criminals generally. Until he turns around - whether its on the same road or another one, he at least needs to be traveling in the same direction.

I like your term "field of conflict". Would this apply to the recent shoot out in Tacoma, Washington state where 4 state troopers were shot and killed by an ex-con?

 

[Rinata]

To whoever challenged me to back up the original thread Title:

“You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.” -- John Kerry

This should be Common knowledge and I'm sorry that I have a life outside of USMB and did not get to post this before now, but John Kerry did say our soldiers were stupid. Just fucking deal with it

I really don't think that's what he meant. My favorite cousin and I are the same age and went to school together. He hated it and was constantly ditching and refused to go. He was 17 and his Dad told him to go to school or get his butt in the army. He chose the army instead of school.

Well, he ended up in Vietnam for 13 months. Needless to say, he regretted his decision. But he hated school that much. So I understand what Kerry is saying.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I ask that you please give one example that makes this president is a "Marxists".

LOL!!! WTF with the broken English shit?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

To whoever challenged me to back up the original thread Title:

“You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.” -- John Kerry

This should be Common knowledge and I'm sorry that I have a life outside of USMB and did not get to post this before now, but John Kerry did say our soldiers were stupid. Just fucking deal with it

I really don't think that's what he meant. My favorite cousin and I are the same age and went to school together. He hated it and was constantly ditching and refused to go. He was 17 and his Dad told him to go to school or get his butt in the army. He chose the army instead of school.

Well, he ended up in Vietnam for 13 months. Needless to say, he regretted his decision. But he hated school that much. So I understand what Kerry is saying.

You don't think that's what Kerry meant? You may not be even half as bright as you think you are