Death Penalty- No Doubt

[PoliticalChic]

I don't believe in the electric chair.

My plan....the electric sofa, so we can take 3-4 of 'em at a time.

I would prefer the firing squad, if it were I, facing the death penalty. Freedom of choice, and all that....

And let's make the 'last meal' a buffet, so we can speed it up!

 

[Wry Catcher]

The death penalty is a waste of time and money. Besides, it's not much different than receiving a general anesthetic.

Retribution is the only reason to kill, punishment is what is called for. Read the link below on ADX Florence, the Federal Governments supermax prison, and ask yourself which you would prefer - painless death or the rest of your life as described below.

ADX Florence - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

From the link:

ADX Florence is a 37-acre (15 ha), 490-bed complex at 5880 Highway 67, Florence, Colorado, about 100 miles (160 km) south of Denver and 40 miles (60 km) south of Colorado Springs.[14] It is one part of the Florence Federal Correctional Complex (FFCC), which comprises three correctional facilities, each with a different security rating.[15]

The majority of the facility is above ground. The only part that is underground is a subterranean corridor that links cellblocks to the lobby. Inmates spend 23 hours a day locked in their cells and are escorted by a minimum of three officers for their five hours of private recreation per week.[16] Each cell has a desk, a stool, and a bed, which are almost entirely made out of poured concrete, as well as a toilet that shuts off if blocked, a shower that runs on a timer to prevent flooding, and a sink lacking a potentially dangerous tap. Rooms may also be fitted with polished steel mirrors bolted to the wall, an electric light, a radio, and a black and white television that shows recreational, educational, and religious programming.[17]

The 4 in (10 cm) by 4 ft (120 cm) windows are designed to prevent inmates from knowing their specific location within the complex because they can see only the sky and roof through them, making it virtually impossible to plan an escape. Inmates exercise in a concrete pit resembling an empty swimming pool, also designed to prevent them from knowing their location in the facility.[18]Telecommunication with the outside world is forbidden, and food is hand-delivered by correction officers. However, inmates sent here from other prisons can potentially be allowed to eat in a shared dining room.[6] The prison as a whole contains a multitude of motion detectors and cameras, and 1,400 remote-controlled steel doors. Pressure pads and 12-foot-tall (3.7 m) razor wire fences surround the perimeter.

Cheri Nolan, a Deputy Assistant Attorney General under President George W. Bush, toured ADX Florence in 2004 while a member of the advisory board for the National Institute of Corrections, a federal agency that supports correctional programs. Nolan stated, "I've never seen anything like it as far as the technology and physical set up. Once you're inside you really can't tell where you are - what's north, south, east or west. The way it's designed, it's an interesting kind of setup," Nolan said. "Because of the high value of targets they have there - on a world scale, whether it be a drug cartel or terrorists - they are as concerned with someone trying to get in to break someone out as much as they are about inmates trying to escape. The protection around the prison is pretty remarkable."[16]

 

[protectionist]

Can't ever support the death penalty

Without it, you risk more people being killed, as long as the killer remains alive.

And it will send a great message to ISIS and other radical Islamist wannabes to "bring it." Free room and board for years to come, should you not be put away.

I'd say they got sent a hell of a message by Pamela Geller and the AFDI in Garland, TX. They got dusted the second they started shooting, and not a single person at the event got killed.

It goes back to that old saying by a Japanese general during World War II > "The United States can never be invaded. There is a gun behind every blade of grass."

 

[protectionist]

The death penalty is a waste of time and money. Besides, it's not much different than receiving a general anesthetic.

Retribution is the only reason to kill, punishment is what is called for. Read the link below on ADX Florence, the Federal Governments supermax prison, and ask yourself which you would prefer - painless death or the rest of your life as described below.

ADX Florence - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

From the link:

ADX Florence is a 37-acre (15 ha), 490-bed complex at 5880 Highway 67, Florence, Colorado, about 100 miles (160 km) south of Denver and 40 miles (60 km) south of Colorado Springs.[14] It is one part of the Florence Federal Correctional Complex (FFCC), which comprises three correctional facilities, each with a different security rating.[15]

The majority of the facility is above ground. The only part that is underground is a subterranean corridor that links cellblocks to the lobby. Inmates spend 23 hours a day locked in their cells and are escorted by a minimum of three officers for their five hours of private recreation per week.[16] Each cell has a desk, a stool, and a bed, which are almost entirely made out of poured concrete, as well as a toilet that shuts off if blocked, a shower that runs on a timer to prevent flooding, and a sink lacking a potentially dangerous tap. Rooms may also be fitted with polished steel mirrors bolted to the wall, an electric light, a radio, and a black and white television that shows recreational, educational, and religious programming.[17]

The 4 in (10 cm) by 4 ft (120 cm) windows are designed to prevent inmates from knowing their specific location within the complex because they can see only the sky and roof through them, making it virtually impossible to plan an escape. Inmates exercise in a concrete pit resembling an empty swimming pool, also designed to prevent them from knowing their location in the facility.[18]Telecommunication with the outside world is forbidden, and food is hand-delivered by correction officers. However, inmates sent here from other prisons can potentially be allowed to eat in a shared dining room.[6] The prison as a whole contains a multitude of motion detectors and cameras, and 1,400 remote-controlled steel doors. Pressure pads and 12-foot-tall (3.7 m) razor wire fences surround the perimeter.

Cheri Nolan, a Deputy Assistant Attorney General under President George W. Bush, toured ADX Florence in 2004 while a member of the advisory board for the National Institute of Corrections, a federal agency that supports correctional programs. Nolan stated, "I've never seen anything like it as far as the technology and physical set up. Once you're inside you really can't tell where you are - what's north, south, east or west. The way it's designed, it's an interesting kind of setup," Nolan said. "Because of the high value of targets they have there - on a world scale, whether it be a drug cartel or terrorists - they are as concerned with someone trying to get in to break someone out as much as they are about inmates trying to escape. The protection around the prison is pretty remarkable."[16]

You've missed the entire reason for the death penalty > Protection of the public. Even in this supermax, the killer can still kill again. As long as he's alive, he's a threat.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The death penalty is a waste of time and money. Besides, it's not much different than receiving a general anesthetic.

Retribution is the only reason to kill, punishment is what is called for. Read the link below on ADX Florence, the Federal Governments supermax prison, and ask yourself which you would prefer - painless death or the rest of your life as described below.

ADX Florence - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

From the link:

ADX Florence is a 37-acre (15 ha), 490-bed complex at 5880 Highway 67, Florence, Colorado, about 100 miles (160 km) south of Denver and 40 miles (60 km) south of Colorado Springs.[14] It is one part of the Florence Federal Correctional Complex (FFCC), which comprises three correctional facilities, each with a different security rating.[15]

The majority of the facility is above ground. The only part that is underground is a subterranean corridor that links cellblocks to the lobby. Inmates spend 23 hours a day locked in their cells and are escorted by a minimum of three officers for their five hours of private recreation per week.[16] Each cell has a desk, a stool, and a bed, which are almost entirely made out of poured concrete, as well as a toilet that shuts off if blocked, a shower that runs on a timer to prevent flooding, and a sink lacking a potentially dangerous tap. Rooms may also be fitted with polished steel mirrors bolted to the wall, an electric light, a radio, and a black and white television that shows recreational, educational, and religious programming.[17]

The 4 in (10 cm) by 4 ft (120 cm) windows are designed to prevent inmates from knowing their specific location within the complex because they can see only the sky and roof through them, making it virtually impossible to plan an escape. Inmates exercise in a concrete pit resembling an empty swimming pool, also designed to prevent them from knowing their location in the facility.[18]Telecommunication with the outside world is forbidden, and food is hand-delivered by correction officers. However, inmates sent here from other prisons can potentially be allowed to eat in a shared dining room.[6] The prison as a whole contains a multitude of motion detectors and cameras, and 1,400 remote-controlled steel doors. Pressure pads and 12-foot-tall (3.7 m) razor wire fences surround the perimeter.

Cheri Nolan, a Deputy Assistant Attorney General under President George W. Bush, toured ADX Florence in 2004 while a member of the advisory board for the National Institute of Corrections, a federal agency that supports correctional programs. Nolan stated, "I've never seen anything like it as far as the technology and physical set up. Once you're inside you really can't tell where you are - what's north, south, east or west. The way it's designed, it's an interesting kind of setup," Nolan said. "Because of the high value of targets they have there - on a world scale, whether it be a drug cartel or terrorists - they are as concerned with someone trying to get in to break someone out as much as they are about inmates trying to escape. The protection around the prison is pretty remarkable."[16]

See that!

Like that 'blind squirrel,' you finally found one we agree on!

I knew you wouldn't be 100% stupid 24-7 (though heaven knows you try!)

"The death penalty ... it's not much different than receiving a general anesthetic."


My feeling exactly!

They should be put to death in the same fashion that they did so to their victims.

After all, while it may be 'cruel,' it won't be 'unusual' to the murderer!

 

[PoliticalChic]

The death penalty is a waste of time and money. Besides, it's not much different than receiving a general anesthetic.

Retribution is the only reason to kill, punishment is what is called for. Read the link below on ADX Florence, the Federal Governments supermax prison, and ask yourself which you would prefer - painless death or the rest of your life as described below.

ADX Florence - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

From the link:

ADX Florence is a 37-acre (15 ha), 490-bed complex at 5880 Highway 67, Florence, Colorado, about 100 miles (160 km) south of Denver and 40 miles (60 km) south of Colorado Springs.[14] It is one part of the Florence Federal Correctional Complex (FFCC), which comprises three correctional facilities, each with a different security rating.[15]

The majority of the facility is above ground. The only part that is underground is a subterranean corridor that links cellblocks to the lobby. Inmates spend 23 hours a day locked in their cells and are escorted by a minimum of three officers for their five hours of private recreation per week.[16] Each cell has a desk, a stool, and a bed, which are almost entirely made out of poured concrete, as well as a toilet that shuts off if blocked, a shower that runs on a timer to prevent flooding, and a sink lacking a potentially dangerous tap. Rooms may also be fitted with polished steel mirrors bolted to the wall, an electric light, a radio, and a black and white television that shows recreational, educational, and religious programming.[17]

The 4 in (10 cm) by 4 ft (120 cm) windows are designed to prevent inmates from knowing their specific location within the complex because they can see only the sky and roof through them, making it virtually impossible to plan an escape. Inmates exercise in a concrete pit resembling an empty swimming pool, also designed to prevent them from knowing their location in the facility.[18]Telecommunication with the outside world is forbidden, and food is hand-delivered by correction officers. However, inmates sent here from other prisons can potentially be allowed to eat in a shared dining room.[6] The prison as a whole contains a multitude of motion detectors and cameras, and 1,400 remote-controlled steel doors. Pressure pads and 12-foot-tall (3.7 m) razor wire fences surround the perimeter.

Cheri Nolan, a Deputy Assistant Attorney General under President George W. Bush, toured ADX Florence in 2004 while a member of the advisory board for the National Institute of Corrections, a federal agency that supports correctional programs. Nolan stated, "I've never seen anything like it as far as the technology and physical set up. Once you're inside you really can't tell where you are - what's north, south, east or west. The way it's designed, it's an interesting kind of setup," Nolan said. "Because of the high value of targets they have there - on a world scale, whether it be a drug cartel or terrorists - they are as concerned with someone trying to get in to break someone out as much as they are about inmates trying to escape. The protection around the prison is pretty remarkable."[16]

You've missed the entire reason for the death penalty > Protection of the public. Even in this supermax, the killer can still kill again. As long as he's alive, he's a threat.

You're just a tad too moderate for my tastes.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The death penalty is a waste of time and money. Besides, it's not much different than receiving a general anesthetic.

Retribution is the only reason to kill, punishment is what is called for. Read the link below on ADX Florence, the Federal Governments supermax prison, and ask yourself which you would prefer - painless death or the rest of your life as described below.

ADX Florence - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

From the link:

ADX Florence is a 37-acre (15 ha), 490-bed complex at 5880 Highway 67, Florence, Colorado, about 100 miles (160 km) south of Denver and 40 miles (60 km) south of Colorado Springs.[14] It is one part of the Florence Federal Correctional Complex (FFCC), which comprises three correctional facilities, each with a different security rating.[15]

The majority of the facility is above ground. The only part that is underground is a subterranean corridor that links cellblocks to the lobby. Inmates spend 23 hours a day locked in their cells and are escorted by a minimum of three officers for their five hours of private recreation per week.[16] Each cell has a desk, a stool, and a bed, which are almost entirely made out of poured concrete, as well as a toilet that shuts off if blocked, a shower that runs on a timer to prevent flooding, and a sink lacking a potentially dangerous tap. Rooms may also be fitted with polished steel mirrors bolted to the wall, an electric light, a radio, and a black and white television that shows recreational, educational, and religious programming.[17]

The 4 in (10 cm) by 4 ft (120 cm) windows are designed to prevent inmates from knowing their specific location within the complex because they can see only the sky and roof through them, making it virtually impossible to plan an escape. Inmates exercise in a concrete pit resembling an empty swimming pool, also designed to prevent them from knowing their location in the facility.[18]Telecommunication with the outside world is forbidden, and food is hand-delivered by correction officers. However, inmates sent here from other prisons can potentially be allowed to eat in a shared dining room.[6] The prison as a whole contains a multitude of motion detectors and cameras, and 1,400 remote-controlled steel doors. Pressure pads and 12-foot-tall (3.7 m) razor wire fences surround the perimeter.

Cheri Nolan, a Deputy Assistant Attorney General under President George W. Bush, toured ADX Florence in 2004 while a member of the advisory board for the National Institute of Corrections, a federal agency that supports correctional programs. Nolan stated, "I've never seen anything like it as far as the technology and physical set up. Once you're inside you really can't tell where you are - what's north, south, east or west. The way it's designed, it's an interesting kind of setup," Nolan said. "Because of the high value of targets they have there - on a world scale, whether it be a drug cartel or terrorists - they are as concerned with someone trying to get in to break someone out as much as they are about inmates trying to escape. The protection around the prison is pretty remarkable."[16]

You've missed the entire reason for the death penalty > Protection of the public. Even in this supermax, the killer can still kill again. As long as he's alive, he's a threat.

Retribution is the reason for the death penalty - see PoliticalChic's post for an example of retribution on steroids. How long until all the appeals are heard and ruled on, and guess who pays the attorney's for every phone call, every letter written, every appeal filed? The Taxpayer. I say, let the SOB spent 23 hours a day for the next 50 years in a cage.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The death penalty is a waste of time and money. Besides, it's not much different than receiving a general anesthetic.

Retribution is the only reason to kill, punishment is what is called for. Read the link below on ADX Florence, the Federal Governments supermax prison, and ask yourself which you would prefer - painless death or the rest of your life as described below.

ADX Florence - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

From the link:

ADX Florence is a 37-acre (15 ha), 490-bed complex at 5880 Highway 67, Florence, Colorado, about 100 miles (160 km) south of Denver and 40 miles (60 km) south of Colorado Springs.[14] It is one part of the Florence Federal Correctional Complex (FFCC), which comprises three correctional facilities, each with a different security rating.[15]

The majority of the facility is above ground. The only part that is underground is a subterranean corridor that links cellblocks to the lobby. Inmates spend 23 hours a day locked in their cells and are escorted by a minimum of three officers for their five hours of private recreation per week.[16] Each cell has a desk, a stool, and a bed, which are almost entirely made out of poured concrete, as well as a toilet that shuts off if blocked, a shower that runs on a timer to prevent flooding, and a sink lacking a potentially dangerous tap. Rooms may also be fitted with polished steel mirrors bolted to the wall, an electric light, a radio, and a black and white television that shows recreational, educational, and religious programming.[17]

The 4 in (10 cm) by 4 ft (120 cm) windows are designed to prevent inmates from knowing their specific location within the complex because they can see only the sky and roof through them, making it virtually impossible to plan an escape. Inmates exercise in a concrete pit resembling an empty swimming pool, also designed to prevent them from knowing their location in the facility.[18]Telecommunication with the outside world is forbidden, and food is hand-delivered by correction officers. However, inmates sent here from other prisons can potentially be allowed to eat in a shared dining room.[6] The prison as a whole contains a multitude of motion detectors and cameras, and 1,400 remote-controlled steel doors. Pressure pads and 12-foot-tall (3.7 m) razor wire fences surround the perimeter.

Cheri Nolan, a Deputy Assistant Attorney General under President George W. Bush, toured ADX Florence in 2004 while a member of the advisory board for the National Institute of Corrections, a federal agency that supports correctional programs. Nolan stated, "I've never seen anything like it as far as the technology and physical set up. Once you're inside you really can't tell where you are - what's north, south, east or west. The way it's designed, it's an interesting kind of setup," Nolan said. "Because of the high value of targets they have there - on a world scale, whether it be a drug cartel or terrorists - they are as concerned with someone trying to get in to break someone out as much as they are about inmates trying to escape. The protection around the prison is pretty remarkable."[16]

You've missed the entire reason for the death penalty > Protection of the public. Even in this supermax, the killer can still kill again. As long as he's alive, he's a threat.

Retribution is the reason for the death penalty - see PoliticalChic's post for an example of retribution on steroids. How long until all the appeals are heard and ruled on, and guess who pays the attorney's for every phone call, every letter written, every appeal filed? The Taxpayer. I say, let the SOB spent 23 hours a day for the next 50 years in a cage.

Here's my plan: jury comes back with 'guilty,' the judge throws a switch and the chair in which the perp is sitting drops into a pool filled with piranhas.

Or.....the killer is shuttle-bused to your humble abode ' 23 hours a day for the next 50 years.'

 

[Wry Catcher]

The death penalty is a waste of time and money. Besides, it's not much different than receiving a general anesthetic.

Retribution is the only reason to kill, punishment is what is called for. Read the link below on ADX Florence, the Federal Governments supermax prison, and ask yourself which you would prefer - painless death or the rest of your life as described below.

ADX Florence - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

From the link:

ADX Florence is a 37-acre (15 ha), 490-bed complex at 5880 Highway 67, Florence, Colorado, about 100 miles (160 km) south of Denver and 40 miles (60 km) south of Colorado Springs.[14] It is one part of the Florence Federal Correctional Complex (FFCC), which comprises three correctional facilities, each with a different security rating.[15]

The majority of the facility is above ground. The only part that is underground is a subterranean corridor that links cellblocks to the lobby. Inmates spend 23 hours a day locked in their cells and are escorted by a minimum of three officers for their five hours of private recreation per week.[16] Each cell has a desk, a stool, and a bed, which are almost entirely made out of poured concrete, as well as a toilet that shuts off if blocked, a shower that runs on a timer to prevent flooding, and a sink lacking a potentially dangerous tap. Rooms may also be fitted with polished steel mirrors bolted to the wall, an electric light, a radio, and a black and white television that shows recreational, educational, and religious programming.[17]

The 4 in (10 cm) by 4 ft (120 cm) windows are designed to prevent inmates from knowing their specific location within the complex because they can see only the sky and roof through them, making it virtually impossible to plan an escape. Inmates exercise in a concrete pit resembling an empty swimming pool, also designed to prevent them from knowing their location in the facility.[18]Telecommunication with the outside world is forbidden, and food is hand-delivered by correction officers. However, inmates sent here from other prisons can potentially be allowed to eat in a shared dining room.[6] The prison as a whole contains a multitude of motion detectors and cameras, and 1,400 remote-controlled steel doors. Pressure pads and 12-foot-tall (3.7 m) razor wire fences surround the perimeter.

Cheri Nolan, a Deputy Assistant Attorney General under President George W. Bush, toured ADX Florence in 2004 while a member of the advisory board for the National Institute of Corrections, a federal agency that supports correctional programs. Nolan stated, "I've never seen anything like it as far as the technology and physical set up. Once you're inside you really can't tell where you are - what's north, south, east or west. The way it's designed, it's an interesting kind of setup," Nolan said. "Because of the high value of targets they have there - on a world scale, whether it be a drug cartel or terrorists - they are as concerned with someone trying to get in to break someone out as much as they are about inmates trying to escape. The protection around the prison is pretty remarkable."[16]

You've missed the entire reason for the death penalty > Protection of the public. Even in this supermax, the killer can still kill again. As long as he's alive, he's a threat.

Retribution is the reason for the death penalty - see PoliticalChic's post for an example of retribution on steroids. How long until all the appeals are heard and ruled on, and guess who pays the attorney's for every phone call, every letter written, every appeal filed? The Taxpayer. I say, let the SOB spent 23 hours a day for the next 50 years in a cage.

Here's my plan: jury comes back with 'guilty,' the judge throws a switch and the chair in which the perp is sitting drops into a pool filled with piranhas.

Or.....the killer is shuttle-bused to your humble abode ' 23 hours a day for the next 50 years.'

I'm sure other Callous Conservatives like you feel the same way. Fortunately, there are others who actually believe in justice:

Home The Innocence Project

 

[PoliticalChic]

The death penalty is a waste of time and money. Besides, it's not much different than receiving a general anesthetic.

Retribution is the only reason to kill, punishment is what is called for. Read the link below on ADX Florence, the Federal Governments supermax prison, and ask yourself which you would prefer - painless death or the rest of your life as described below.

ADX Florence - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

From the link:

ADX Florence is a 37-acre (15 ha), 490-bed complex at 5880 Highway 67, Florence, Colorado, about 100 miles (160 km) south of Denver and 40 miles (60 km) south of Colorado Springs.[14] It is one part of the Florence Federal Correctional Complex (FFCC), which comprises three correctional facilities, each with a different security rating.[15]

The majority of the facility is above ground. The only part that is underground is a subterranean corridor that links cellblocks to the lobby. Inmates spend 23 hours a day locked in their cells and are escorted by a minimum of three officers for their five hours of private recreation per week.[16] Each cell has a desk, a stool, and a bed, which are almost entirely made out of poured concrete, as well as a toilet that shuts off if blocked, a shower that runs on a timer to prevent flooding, and a sink lacking a potentially dangerous tap. Rooms may also be fitted with polished steel mirrors bolted to the wall, an electric light, a radio, and a black and white television that shows recreational, educational, and religious programming.[17]

The 4 in (10 cm) by 4 ft (120 cm) windows are designed to prevent inmates from knowing their specific location within the complex because they can see only the sky and roof through them, making it virtually impossible to plan an escape. Inmates exercise in a concrete pit resembling an empty swimming pool, also designed to prevent them from knowing their location in the facility.[18]Telecommunication with the outside world is forbidden, and food is hand-delivered by correction officers. However, inmates sent here from other prisons can potentially be allowed to eat in a shared dining room.[6] The prison as a whole contains a multitude of motion detectors and cameras, and 1,400 remote-controlled steel doors. Pressure pads and 12-foot-tall (3.7 m) razor wire fences surround the perimeter.

Cheri Nolan, a Deputy Assistant Attorney General under President George W. Bush, toured ADX Florence in 2004 while a member of the advisory board for the National Institute of Corrections, a federal agency that supports correctional programs. Nolan stated, "I've never seen anything like it as far as the technology and physical set up. Once you're inside you really can't tell where you are - what's north, south, east or west. The way it's designed, it's an interesting kind of setup," Nolan said. "Because of the high value of targets they have there - on a world scale, whether it be a drug cartel or terrorists - they are as concerned with someone trying to get in to break someone out as much as they are about inmates trying to escape. The protection around the prison is pretty remarkable."[16]

You've missed the entire reason for the death penalty > Protection of the public. Even in this supermax, the killer can still kill again. As long as he's alive, he's a threat.

Retribution is the reason for the death penalty - see PoliticalChic's post for an example of retribution on steroids. How long until all the appeals are heard and ruled on, and guess who pays the attorney's for every phone call, every letter written, every appeal filed? The Taxpayer. I say, let the SOB spent 23 hours a day for the next 50 years in a cage.

Here's my plan: jury comes back with 'guilty,' the judge throws a switch and the chair in which the perp is sitting drops into a pool filled with piranhas.

Or.....the killer is shuttle-bused to your humble abode ' 23 hours a day for the next 50 years.'

I'm sure other Callous Conservatives like you feel the same way. Fortunately, there are others who actually believe in justice:

Home The Innocence Project

Ooooo....you're sooooo good hearted.
Let's not waste any of that sympathy on the victims.

Pity you're sooooo dumb.

Studies say that every execution saves lives in the future.

"More precisely, our recent research shows that each execution carried out is correlated with about 74 fewer murders the following year."
Capital Punishment Works
By ROY D. ADLER and MICHAEL SUMMERS
November 2, 2007; Page A13

Capital Punishment Works - WSJ

 

[Wry Catcher]

The death penalty is a waste of time and money. Besides, it's not much different than receiving a general anesthetic.

Retribution is the only reason to kill, punishment is what is called for. Read the link below on ADX Florence, the Federal Governments supermax prison, and ask yourself which you would prefer - painless death or the rest of your life as described below.

ADX Florence - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

From the link:

ADX Florence is a 37-acre (15 ha), 490-bed complex at 5880 Highway 67, Florence, Colorado, about 100 miles (160 km) south of Denver and 40 miles (60 km) south of Colorado Springs.[14] It is one part of the Florence Federal Correctional Complex (FFCC), which comprises three correctional facilities, each with a different security rating.[15]

The majority of the facility is above ground. The only part that is underground is a subterranean corridor that links cellblocks to the lobby. Inmates spend 23 hours a day locked in their cells and are escorted by a minimum of three officers for their five hours of private recreation per week.[16] Each cell has a desk, a stool, and a bed, which are almost entirely made out of poured concrete, as well as a toilet that shuts off if blocked, a shower that runs on a timer to prevent flooding, and a sink lacking a potentially dangerous tap. Rooms may also be fitted with polished steel mirrors bolted to the wall, an electric light, a radio, and a black and white television that shows recreational, educational, and religious programming.[17]

The 4 in (10 cm) by 4 ft (120 cm) windows are designed to prevent inmates from knowing their specific location within the complex because they can see only the sky and roof through them, making it virtually impossible to plan an escape. Inmates exercise in a concrete pit resembling an empty swimming pool, also designed to prevent them from knowing their location in the facility.[18]Telecommunication with the outside world is forbidden, and food is hand-delivered by correction officers. However, inmates sent here from other prisons can potentially be allowed to eat in a shared dining room.[6] The prison as a whole contains a multitude of motion detectors and cameras, and 1,400 remote-controlled steel doors. Pressure pads and 12-foot-tall (3.7 m) razor wire fences surround the perimeter.

Cheri Nolan, a Deputy Assistant Attorney General under President George W. Bush, toured ADX Florence in 2004 while a member of the advisory board for the National Institute of Corrections, a federal agency that supports correctional programs. Nolan stated, "I've never seen anything like it as far as the technology and physical set up. Once you're inside you really can't tell where you are - what's north, south, east or west. The way it's designed, it's an interesting kind of setup," Nolan said. "Because of the high value of targets they have there - on a world scale, whether it be a drug cartel or terrorists - they are as concerned with someone trying to get in to break someone out as much as they are about inmates trying to escape. The protection around the prison is pretty remarkable."[16]

You've missed the entire reason for the death penalty > Protection of the public. Even in this supermax, the killer can still kill again. As long as he's alive, he's a threat.

Retribution is the reason for the death penalty - see PoliticalChic's post for an example of retribution on steroids. How long until all the appeals are heard and ruled on, and guess who pays the attorney's for every phone call, every letter written, every appeal filed? The Taxpayer. I say, let the SOB spent 23 hours a day for the next 50 years in a cage.

Here's my plan: jury comes back with 'guilty,' the judge throws a switch and the chair in which the perp is sitting drops into a pool filled with piranhas.

Or.....the killer is shuttle-bused to your humble abode ' 23 hours a day for the next 50 years.'

I'm sure other Callous Conservatives like you feel the same way. Fortunately, there are others who actually believe in justice:

Home The Innocence Project

Ooooo....you're sooooo good hearted.
Let's not waste any of that sympathy on the victims.

Pity you're sooooo dumb.

Studies say that every execution saves lives in the future.

"More precisely, our recent research shows that each execution carried out is correlated with about 74 fewer murders the following year."
Capital Punishment Works
By ROY D. ADLER and MICHAEL SUMMERS
November 2, 2007; Page A13

Capital Punishment Works - WSJ

• Released prisoners with the highest rearrest rates were robbers (70.2%), burglars (74.0%), larcenists (74.6%), motor vehicle thieves (78.8%), those in prison for possessing or selling stolen property (77.4%), and those in prison for possessing, using, or selling illegal weapons (70.2%). • Released prisoners with the lowest rearrest rates were those in prison for homicide (40.7%), rape (46.0%), other sexual assault (41.4%), and driving under the influence (51.5%). • Within 3 years, 2.5% of released rapists were arrested for another rape, and 1.2% of those who had served time for homicide were arrested for homicide. • The 272,111 offenders discharged in 1994 had accumulated 4.1 million arrest charges before their most recent imprisonment and another 744,000 charges within 3 years of release

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdf

 

[PoliticalChic]

You've missed the entire reason for the death penalty > Protection of the public. Even in this supermax, the killer can still kill again. As long as he's alive, he's a threat.

Retribution is the reason for the death penalty - see PoliticalChic's post for an example of retribution on steroids. How long until all the appeals are heard and ruled on, and guess who pays the attorney's for every phone call, every letter written, every appeal filed? The Taxpayer. I say, let the SOB spent 23 hours a day for the next 50 years in a cage.

Here's my plan: jury comes back with 'guilty,' the judge throws a switch and the chair in which the perp is sitting drops into a pool filled with piranhas.

Or.....the killer is shuttle-bused to your humble abode ' 23 hours a day for the next 50 years.'

I'm sure other Callous Conservatives like you feel the same way. Fortunately, there are others who actually believe in justice:

Home The Innocence Project

Ooooo....you're sooooo good hearted.
Let's not waste any of that sympathy on the victims.

Pity you're sooooo dumb.

Studies say that every execution saves lives in the future.

"More precisely, our recent research shows that each execution carried out is correlated with about 74 fewer murders the following year."
Capital Punishment Works
By ROY D. ADLER and MICHAEL SUMMERS
November 2, 2007; Page A13

Capital Punishment Works - WSJ

• Released prisoners with the highest rearrest rates were robbers (70.2%), burglars (74.0%), larcenists (74.6%), motor vehicle thieves (78.8%), those in prison for possessing or selling stolen property (77.4%), and those in prison for possessing, using, or selling illegal weapons (70.2%). • Released prisoners with the lowest rearrest rates were those in prison for homicide (40.7%), rape (46.0%), other sexual assault (41.4%), and driving under the influence (51.5%). • Within 3 years, 2.5% of released rapists were arrested for another rape, and 1.2% of those who had served time for homicide were arrested for homicide. • The 272,111 offenders discharged in 1994 had accumulated 4.1 million arrest charges before their most recent imprisonment and another 744,000 charges within 3 years of release

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdf

I understand how difficult anything new is for you...but, focus like a laser: what does this have to do with putting murderers to death....as they deserve?


Take a deep breath....and try to work through the concept.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Retribution is the reason for the death penalty - see PoliticalChic's post for an example of retribution on steroids. How long until all the appeals are heard and ruled on, and guess who pays the attorney's for every phone call, every letter written, every appeal filed? The Taxpayer. I say, let the SOB spent 23 hours a day for the next 50 years in a cage.

Here's my plan: jury comes back with 'guilty,' the judge throws a switch and the chair in which the perp is sitting drops into a pool filled with piranhas.

Or.....the killer is shuttle-bused to your humble abode ' 23 hours a day for the next 50 years.'

I'm sure other Callous Conservatives like you feel the same way. Fortunately, there are others who actually believe in justice:

Home The Innocence Project

Ooooo....you're sooooo good hearted.
Let's not waste any of that sympathy on the victims.

Pity you're sooooo dumb.

Studies say that every execution saves lives in the future.

"More precisely, our recent research shows that each execution carried out is correlated with about 74 fewer murders the following year."
Capital Punishment Works
By ROY D. ADLER and MICHAEL SUMMERS
November 2, 2007; Page A13

Capital Punishment Works - WSJ

• Released prisoners with the highest rearrest rates were robbers (70.2%), burglars (74.0%), larcenists (74.6%), motor vehicle thieves (78.8%), those in prison for possessing or selling stolen property (77.4%), and those in prison for possessing, using, or selling illegal weapons (70.2%). • Released prisoners with the lowest rearrest rates were those in prison for homicide (40.7%), rape (46.0%), other sexual assault (41.4%), and driving under the influence (51.5%). • Within 3 years, 2.5% of released rapists were arrested for another rape, and 1.2% of those who had served time for homicide were arrested for homicide. • The 272,111 offenders discharged in 1994 had accumulated 4.1 million arrest charges before their most recent imprisonment and another 744,000 charges within 3 years of release

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdf

I understand how difficult anything new is for you...but, focus like a laser: what does this have to do with putting murderers to death....as they deserve?


Take a deep breath....and try to work through the concept.

You can't be as dumb as your responses suggest. Do your friends (oops, if you have any friends) call you goldie? You have the attention span of a gold fish. And you do carp quite a bit, too.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here's my plan: jury comes back with 'guilty,' the judge throws a switch and the chair in which the perp is sitting drops into a pool filled with piranhas.

Or.....the killer is shuttle-bused to your humble abode ' 23 hours a day for the next 50 years.'

I'm sure other Callous Conservatives like you feel the same way. Fortunately, there are others who actually believe in justice:

Home The Innocence Project

Ooooo....you're sooooo good hearted.
Let's not waste any of that sympathy on the victims.

Pity you're sooooo dumb.

Studies say that every execution saves lives in the future.

"More precisely, our recent research shows that each execution carried out is correlated with about 74 fewer murders the following year."
Capital Punishment Works
By ROY D. ADLER and MICHAEL SUMMERS
November 2, 2007; Page A13

Capital Punishment Works - WSJ

• Released prisoners with the highest rearrest rates were robbers (70.2%), burglars (74.0%), larcenists (74.6%), motor vehicle thieves (78.8%), those in prison for possessing or selling stolen property (77.4%), and those in prison for possessing, using, or selling illegal weapons (70.2%). • Released prisoners with the lowest rearrest rates were those in prison for homicide (40.7%), rape (46.0%), other sexual assault (41.4%), and driving under the influence (51.5%). • Within 3 years, 2.5% of released rapists were arrested for another rape, and 1.2% of those who had served time for homicide were arrested for homicide. • The 272,111 offenders discharged in 1994 had accumulated 4.1 million arrest charges before their most recent imprisonment and another 744,000 charges within 3 years of release

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdf

I understand how difficult anything new is for you...but, focus like a laser: what does this have to do with putting murderers to death....as they deserve?


Take a deep breath....and try to work through the concept.

You can't be as dumb as your responses suggest. Do your friends (oops, if you have any friends) call you goldie? You have the attention span of a gold fish. And you do carp quite a bit, too.

And you think this is as good as actually answering the query???


Really?

You must be a Liberal.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I'm sure other Callous Conservatives like you feel the same way. Fortunately, there are others who actually believe in justice:

Home The Innocence Project

Ooooo....you're sooooo good hearted.
Let's not waste any of that sympathy on the victims.

Pity you're sooooo dumb.

Studies say that every execution saves lives in the future.

"More precisely, our recent research shows that each execution carried out is correlated with about 74 fewer murders the following year."
Capital Punishment Works
By ROY D. ADLER and MICHAEL SUMMERS
November 2, 2007; Page A13

Capital Punishment Works - WSJ

• Released prisoners with the highest rearrest rates were robbers (70.2%), burglars (74.0%), larcenists (74.6%), motor vehicle thieves (78.8%), those in prison for possessing or selling stolen property (77.4%), and those in prison for possessing, using, or selling illegal weapons (70.2%). • Released prisoners with the lowest rearrest rates were those in prison for homicide (40.7%), rape (46.0%), other sexual assault (41.4%), and driving under the influence (51.5%). • Within 3 years, 2.5% of released rapists were arrested for another rape, and 1.2% of those who had served time for homicide were arrested for homicide. • The 272,111 offenders discharged in 1994 had accumulated 4.1 million arrest charges before their most recent imprisonment and another 744,000 charges within 3 years of release

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdf

I understand how difficult anything new is for you...but, focus like a laser: what does this have to do with putting murderers to death....as they deserve?


Take a deep breath....and try to work through the concept.

You can't be as dumb as your responses suggest. Do your friends (oops, if you have any friends) call you goldie? You have the attention span of a gold fish. And you do carp quite a bit, too.

And you think this is as good as actually answering the query???


Really?

You must be a Liberal.

No I'm a liberal Democrat. Liberal (that's with the big 'L') is a member of a Liberal political party. Most educated people understand the distinction.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I'm sure other Callous Conservatives like you feel the same way. Fortunately, there are others who actually believe in justice:

Home The Innocence Project

Ooooo....you're sooooo good hearted.
Let's not waste any of that sympathy on the victims.

Pity you're sooooo dumb.

Studies say that every execution saves lives in the future.

"More precisely, our recent research shows that each execution carried out is correlated with about 74 fewer murders the following year."
Capital Punishment Works
By ROY D. ADLER and MICHAEL SUMMERS
November 2, 2007; Page A13

Capital Punishment Works - WSJ

• Released prisoners with the highest rearrest rates were robbers (70.2%), burglars (74.0%), larcenists (74.6%), motor vehicle thieves (78.8%), those in prison for possessing or selling stolen property (77.4%), and those in prison for possessing, using, or selling illegal weapons (70.2%). • Released prisoners with the lowest rearrest rates were those in prison for homicide (40.7%), rape (46.0%), other sexual assault (41.4%), and driving under the influence (51.5%). • Within 3 years, 2.5% of released rapists were arrested for another rape, and 1.2% of those who had served time for homicide were arrested for homicide. • The 272,111 offenders discharged in 1994 had accumulated 4.1 million arrest charges before their most recent imprisonment and another 744,000 charges within 3 years of release

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdf

I understand how difficult anything new is for you...but, focus like a laser: what does this have to do with putting murderers to death....as they deserve?


Take a deep breath....and try to work through the concept.

You can't be as dumb as your responses suggest. Do your friends (oops, if you have any friends) call you goldie? You have the attention span of a gold fish. And you do carp quite a bit, too.

And you think this is as good as actually answering the query???


Really?

You must be a Liberal.

No I'm a liberal Democrat. Liberal (that's with the big 'L') is a member of a Liberal political party. Most educated people understand the distinction.

 

[protectionist]

Here's my plan: jury comes back with 'guilty,' the judge throws a switch and the chair in which the perp is sitting drops into a pool filled with piranhas.

Or.....the killer is shuttle-bused to your humble abode ' 23 hours a day for the next 50 years.'

I'm sure other Callous Conservatives like you feel the same way. Fortunately, there are others who actually believe in justice:

Home The Innocence Project

Ooooo....you're sooooo good hearted.
Let's not waste any of that sympathy on the victims.

Pity you're sooooo dumb.

Studies say that every execution saves lives in the future.

"More precisely, our recent research shows that each execution carried out is correlated with about 74 fewer murders the following year."
Capital Punishment Works
By ROY D. ADLER and MICHAEL SUMMERS
November 2, 2007; Page A13

Capital Punishment Works - WSJ

• Released prisoners with the highest rearrest rates were robbers (70.2%), burglars (74.0%), larcenists (74.6%), motor vehicle thieves (78.8%), those in prison for possessing or selling stolen property (77.4%), and those in prison for possessing, using, or selling illegal weapons (70.2%). • Released prisoners with the lowest rearrest rates were those in prison for homicide (40.7%), rape (46.0%), other sexual assault (41.4%), and driving under the influence (51.5%). • Within 3 years, 2.5% of released rapists were arrested for another rape, and 1.2% of those who had served time for homicide were arrested for homicide. • The 272,111 offenders discharged in 1994 had accumulated 4.1 million arrest charges before their most recent imprisonment and another 744,000 charges within 3 years of release

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdf

I understand how difficult anything new is for you...but, focus like a laser: what does this have to do with putting murderers to death....as they deserve?


Take a deep breath....and try to work through the concept.

You can't be as dumb as your responses suggest. Do your friends (oops, if you have any friends) call you goldie? You have the attention span of a gold fish. And you do carp quite a bit, too.

EARTH TO WC: PC asked you a perfectly valid question. You responded with a DODGE. So once again, what does your Post # 131 have to do with putting murderers to death....as they deserve? Note: you may dodge this too. No law against it.

 

[protectionist]

Executions in the US........Almost exclusively in "Jesusland"

Confirmation that we do things right here in Dixie. Rest of the country ? They let the killers live, so they can kill again. They estimated that Al Capone killed about 50 more people from his prison cell, during the few years he was incarcerated. No doubt, other gang leaders do the same. Stupid liberals.

 

[protectionist]

Retribution is the reason for the death penalty - see PoliticalChic's post for an example of retribution on steroids. How long until all the appeals are heard and ruled on, and guess who pays the attorney's for every phone call, every letter written, every appeal filed? The Taxpayer. I say, let the SOB spent 23 hours a day for the next 50 years in a cage.

I refuted this dumb notion further back in the thread. If long appeals drive up the cost of the death penalty, the answer is simple. Don't have long appeals. 3 appeals with 2 years. That's it. We're talking cases where the evidence is conclusive. If done right, the death penalty is much less expensive than housing somebody for decades. And if you want to house the guy for 50 (or 70) years, you pay for it. And if he kills somebody else, you bear responsibility for that.

 

[whitehall]

Doesn't the death penalty for a federal crime of bombing and murder turn the people of Mass. into hypocrites when they would not justify the death penalty for any other conviction for the same crime? Let the Feds do it and our liberal conscience is clear? Freaking hypocrites.