David Duke in Syria

You are a bright young man...however for the life of me I cannot understand your obsession with bashing Israel...and now your attachment with "David Duke" this guy is a loser 'Big Time"...I can understand your being against "Affirmative Action" it is definetly overdone and out of place...not to mention being unfair...however I truly believe your anger is more directed toward the 'Modern' New York and 'Hollywood' type of Jewish influence vs the Orthodox influence of the majority in Israel...It stands to reason that most if not all modern Jews that are in the Porn business as well as quite a few who are attorneys attached or sympathetic with the ACLU and liberal members of congress and the senate! But to continually bash Israel is beyond my comprehension!
 
I personally don't care if Israel wants to secure itself; my problem is U.S. involvement with it. We fund Israel to the tune of BILLIONS. U.S. taxpayer dollars built their wall to keep out terrorists. But the very same neocons who support THAT say it's "racist" for the U.S. to have the same thing on the border of Mexico (which, by the way, is likely an entry portal of al Qada terrorists to our country).

If nobody sees an inconsistency there, I can't help 'em.

Duke responds to the attack by the MSM:

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=7091
 
Americans refuse to believe anything negative about Israel or Jews. It's if they are perfect and without sin. Americans have bought the entire Israeli agenda hook line and sinker. All it takes is a little willing to take a critical look at the situation and the whole picture begins to fall apart. I guess Israel represents some kind of an underdog that Americans like to blindly cheer for.
 
William Joyce said:
I personally don't care if Israel wants to secure itself; my problem is U.S. involvement with it. We fund Israel to the tune of BILLIONS. U.S. taxpayer dollars built their wall to keep out terrorists. But the very same neocons who support THAT say it's "racist" for the U.S. to have the same thing on the border of Mexico (which, by the way, is likely an entry portal of al Qada terrorists to our country).

If nobody sees an inconsistency there, I can't help 'em.

Duke responds to the attack by the MSM:

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=7091

uh, dude, the neo cons overwhelmingly support a wall on the Mexican border.

I KNOW because when they bring the subject up, I am in opposistion to their posistion.

You do realize though the major influx now is not Mexicans. The group does have brown skin, and speaks spanish, see if you can guess what country they come from.

Dilloduck,,,Israel is supported by the US for many reasons. Dont forget, administrations do things for reasons they dont make apparent to the general public.

Israel is a great ally in the war on terror.

There are many other reasons, I wont bother reciting them, as those who are against Jews generally just have an emotional thing going on and drop any real rationality. Its plain senseless trying to discuss it with such people.

Dennis Prager had this one guy on, who represented a small group, small, but vocal and passionate. They are very anti Jewish, and they claim the holocaust never happened. Well, safe to say, its impossible to argue reason or logic with such people.

I mean, when I presented the notion to the guy that those who orchastrated the holocaust didnt even deny it occured, they merely all denied responsability.

He had no response, and had to deflect the answer, he basically just spoke on another aspect and ignored my comment. Because he had no answer.

So, WJ, Im wondering, do you support David Dukes notion that America should be white? That interacial mixing should be outlawed?
 
Holy Shit!!!!

I've never seen such an ill-conceived and unsubstantiated bunch of outright lies and misinterpretations. You care to share with the rest of us where you draw all these interpretations?

Psychoblues

LuvRPgrl said:
uh, dude, the neo cons overwhelmingly support a wall on the Mexican border.

I KNOW because when they bring the subject up, I am in opposistion to their posistion.

You do realize though the major influx now is not Mexicans. The group does have brown skin, and speaks spanish, see if you can guess what country they come from.

Dilloduck,,,Israel is supported by the US for many reasons. Dont forget, administrations do things for reasons they dont make apparent to the general public.

Israel is a great ally in the war on terror.

There are many other reasons, I wont bother reciting them, as those who are against Jews generally just have an emotional thing going on and drop any real rationality. Its plain senseless trying to discuss it with such people.

Dennis Prager had this one guy on, who represented a small group, small, but vocal and passionate. They are very anti Jewish, and they claim the holocaust never happened. Well, safe to say, its impossible to argue reason or logic with such people.

I mean, when I presented the notion to the guy that those who orchastrated the holocaust didnt even deny it occured, they merely all denied responsability.

He had no response, and had to deflect the answer, he basically just spoke on another aspect and ignored my comment. Because he had no answer.

So, WJ, Im wondering, do you support David Dukes notion that America should be white? That interacial mixing should be outlawed?
 
dilloduck said:
Americans refuse to believe anything negative about Israel or Jews. It's if they are perfect and without sin. Americans have bought the entire Israeli agenda hook line and sinker. All it takes is a little willing to take a critical look at the situation and the whole picture begins to fall apart. I guess Israel represents some kind of an underdog that Americans like to blindly cheer for.

It doesn't take swallowing anything hook, line, and sinker to see who the good guys and who the bad guys are in this little play on the world stage.
 
GunnyL said:
It doesn't take swallowing anything hook, line, and sinker to see who the good guys and who the bad guys are in this little play on the world stage.

Perhaps you could explain where all our tax money that goes to Israel is spent and why they even need it anymore.

Dilloduck,,,Israel is supported by the US for many reasons. Dont forget, administrations do things for reasons they dont make apparent to the general public

Billions a year in foreign aid that goes unaccounted for??? That's one hell of a big secret. No--you ASSUME I have a personal vendetta against Israel and Jews. You have proven my point for me. Thanks!
 
dilloduck said:
Perhaps you could explain where all our tax money that goes to Israel is spent and why they even need it anymore.


Billions a year in foreign aid that goes unaccounted for??? That's one hell of a big secret. No--you ASSUME I have a personal vendetta against Israel and Jews. You have proven my point for me. Thanks!

The same place a lot of our foreign aid goes .... to promote and support democracy.

Mine is, there are no such thing as "Palestinians." They were absorbed centuries ago by the Arabs. The so-called "Palestinians" are Transjordan Arabs who were displaced when Israel was given to the Jews.

Transjordan allied itself with Hitler and lost. Too bad. No Nation would accept the Jews, so it was antisemitism that created Israel as much as anything else. They were give a plot of dirt and made a Nation out of it.

Since the creation of Israel, it has been under constant attack by different groups of Middle Eastern terrorists whose collective stated intent is the destruction of Israel.

While you may wish to get lost in the minutia of Israel did this and Israel did that, I maintain the bigger picture view that Israel has the right to exist.

And Hell, they're one ally who we don't have to babysit and fight their battles for them. My kind of ally.
 
GunnyL said:
The same place a lot of our foreign aid goes .... to promote and support democracy.

Mine is, there are no such thing as "Palestinians." They were absorbed centuries ago by the Arabs. The so-called "Palestinians" are Transjordan Arabs who were displaced when Israel was given to the Jews.

Transjordan allied itself with Hitler and lost. Too bad. No Nation would accept the Jews, so it was antisemitism that created Israel as much as anything else. They were give a plot of dirt and made a Nation out of it.

Since the creation of Israel, it has been under constant attack by different groups of Middle Eastern terrorists whose collective stated intent is the destruction of Israel.

While you may wish to get lost in the minutia of Israel did this and Israel did that, I maintain the bigger picture view that Israel has the right to exist.

And Hell, they're one ally who we don't have to babysit and fight their battles for them. My kind of ally.

Just curious as to why Israel needs more aid than all the other countries put together. The are certainly far more advanced economicaly,scientifically, medically and militarily.
Agreed--Plalestinians are displaced Arabs--the got the handle Palestinians along the way. It doesnt matter much what you call em. They are people who are ignored and hated by much but thier plight provides a great cause for those that truly hate Israel.
Many Arabs suppported the the Allies too and were promised compensation that they never received. They were divided into European spheres of influence. Too bad.
As far as an ally, I can't see where they have really thrown their troops en masse into any area where the US troops needed help. All I see is they represent a deterrent for further Islamic expansion in a tiny area of the world.
 
dilloduck said:
Just curious as to why Israel needs more aid than all the other countries put together. The are certainly far more advanced economicaly,scientifically, medically and militarily.
Agreed--Plalestinians are displaced Arabs--the got the handle Palestinians along the way. It doesnt matter much what you call em. They are people who are ignored and hated by much but thier plight provides a great cause for those that truly hate Israel.
Many Arabs suppported the the Allies too and were promised compensation that they never received. They were divided into European spheres of influence. Too bad.
As far as an ally, I can't see where they have really thrown their troops en masse into any area where the US troops needed help. All I see is they represent a deterrent for further Islamic expansion in a tiny area of the world.

Israel's alliance benefits us in two ways.

1) It's in the frickin' Middle East. For many years, Israel was the only ally we had in the whole region, making it vital to our operations in the Middle East (originally against the Soviets).

2) Israel has one of the best intel services in the world. Mossad is right up there with the CIA, and Shin Bet lacks the moral restraints of other intelligence services, and since Israel doesn't care about world opinion, they can get away with it.
 
dilloduck said:
Just curious as to why Israel needs more aid than all the other countries put together. The are certainly far more advanced economicaly,scientifically, medically and militarily.
Agreed--Plalestinians are displaced Arabs--the got the handle Palestinians along the way. It doesnt matter much what you call em. They are people who are ignored and hated by much but thier plight provides a great cause for those that truly hate Israel.
Many Arabs suppported the the Allies too and were promised compensation that they never received. They were divided into European spheres of influence. Too bad.
As far as an ally, I can't see where they have really thrown their troops en masse into any area where the US troops needed help. All I see is they represent a deterrent for further Islamic expansion in a tiny area of the world.

It is my opinion that Israel is a hedged bet against all-out war in the ME. We have kept them out of our military actions to date in the hopes of not alienating supporting or at least neutral ME Nations. If push comes to shove, bet we won't call in our marker.

One of the problems in the ME, as you have illustrated, is post-WWII "business as usual." The West wanted to hold on to the past. The damned Islamoradicals want to hold on to the past. There cannot be many displaced Arabs still living, so you have a whole group of Arabs calling themselves something and claiming rights to something that is long gone in the past. Had they just assimilated anywhere else in the Middle East 50 years ago, this would not be an issue.

In the end, I cannot support a xenophobic race of people whose religion teaches them to destroy all other peoples and religions in the world. And that IS what it boils down to.

You get those camel-jockeys to simmer down and keep their crap within their borders, and I don't give a rat's ass about them.
 
The main reason the displaced arabs havent assimilated elsewhere in the ME is because all the other countries treat them like dogs, in fact, palestinians get their best treatment in Israel. ironic, isnt it?
 
GunnyL said:
It is my opinion that Israel is a hedged bet against all-out war in the ME. We have kept them out of our military actions to date in the hopes of not alienating supporting or at least neutral ME Nations. If push comes to shove, bet we won't call in our marker.

One of the problems in the ME, as you have illustrated, is post-WWII "business as usual." The West wanted to hold on to the past. The damned Islamoradicals want to hold on to the past. There cannot be many displaced Arabs still living, so you have a whole group of Arabs calling themselves something and claiming rights to something that is long gone in the past. Had they just assimilated anywhere else in the Middle East 50 years ago, this would not be an issue.

In the end, I cannot support a xenophobic race of people whose religion teaches them to destroy all other peoples and religions in the world. And that IS what it boils down to.

You get those camel-jockeys to simmer down and keep their crap within their borders, and I don't give a rat's ass about them.

Weren't they keeping their crap within their borders prior until Kuwait asked for US assistance?
 
Psychoblues said:
Holy Shit!!!!

I've never seen such an ill-conceived and unsubstantiated bunch of outright lies and misinterpretations. You care to share with the rest of us where you draw all these interpretations?

Psychoblues

I believe it was you who got upset in another thread, your own, when someone made personal insults on you. You stated something like, "why do you have to say such things, why cant we have a rational discussion about this?"

hahhaha, then you post the above.

I really only made a few comments, can you please elaborate which specifically are the outright lies first?
 
LuvRPgrl said:
The main reason the displaced arabs havent assimilated elsewhere in the ME is because all the other countries treat them like dogs, in fact, palestinians get their best treatment in Israel. ironic, isnt it?

Not at all---Israel is under great pressure to treat them in a civil manner. It could cost them millions in aid if they didn't.
 

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