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Because it doesn't have enough battery to run the car for 40 miles or better. And is not a plug in.
We both have agreed as to the merits of diesel engines. Wouldn't a transition to all- diesel transportation be more expedient and economical? And I would say that next on the list would be natural gas vehicles.
This issue of hybrids, all electric vehicles, or the production of energies from alternative and/or renewable sources isn't about expedience or economics or efficiencies- it's about petrophobia. Or hydrocarbophobia.
Carter started this nation- and the world for that matter- on a course not steeped in energy economics, but steeped in fear, loathing, and disdain for all things hydrocarbon. It was and always will be a notion of lies, half truths, propaganda, and Liberal hyperbole.
First, a constant rpm diesel combined with a large battery pack would be the ideal for a really efficient hybrid that has more than adaquete power.
Second, the cost of hydrocarbons is going to continue to go up, even as the cost at the citizens level of creating one's own electricity is going to go down. Simple economics says that most of us will be driving EVs and hybrids in my lifetime.
I'm thinking about getting a Toyota Prius or even a Honda Civic gas @ 39mpg, just for an in-town/commuting/rush-hour car. But it would mean getting rid of one of my Volvos and I love them both.
The Honda Civic Hybrid is not worth the extra $5k, just to gain an additional 5mpg. And Honda doesn't support their battery as well as Toyota yet.
No, expensive cars don't impress me. There isn't $70,000 difference in the ride of a high-end Lexus and any $20,000 car.I'm thinking about getting a Toyota Prius or even a Honda Civic gas @ 39mpg, just for an in-town/commuting/rush-hour car. But it would mean getting rid of one of my Volvos and I love them both.
The Honda Civic Hybrid is not worth the extra $5k, just to gain an additional 5mpg. And Honda doesn't support their battery as well as Toyota yet.
Why not buy one of these 73 mpg Porshe's? they only cost $845,000....think about all of the money you'll save on gas, not to mention the smug feeling of overpaying to be "green"....
Well let's see. 3.1 0 to 60. About 200 mph top end. And mileage of 70+ miles per gallon in normal driving. Kind of like having ones cake and eating it, too.
Obviously, you have never driven a high end sports/luxury car.No, expensive cars don't impress me. There isn't $70,000 difference in the ride of a high-end Lexus and any $20,000 car.
Of course, that's a subjective comment, because I think expensive cars are stupid.
In performance. Not ride.Obviously, you have never driven a high end sports/luxury car.No, expensive cars don't impress me. There isn't $70,000 difference in the ride of a high-end Lexus and any $20,000 car.
Of course, that's a subjective comment, because I think expensive cars are stupid.
Yes, Dorothy, there is a huge difference.
Yes, major difference in ride and handeling.In performance. Not ride.Obviously, you have never driven a high end sports/luxury car.No, expensive cars don't impress me. There isn't $70,000 difference in the ride of a high-end Lexus and any $20,000 car.
Of course, that's a subjective comment, because I think expensive cars are stupid.
Yes, Dorothy, there is a huge difference.
meh.............they'll sell about 17 of them.
Again.........you'll get a few buyers of these Porsche hybrids, but heres the poop.
The hybrid guys will be doing so for one reason: guilt. Makes 'em feel a bit better about themselves buying a mega-expensive car. There will be a few......the one's who hang with far left friends. Then you have the mental cases who have to have the most unique car out there. A real car guy though? Dollar to a thousand stale donuts they're not buying the hybrid.
Ask 100 men..............which would you rather have? A Lambo Aventador at less than $300K or a Porsche hybrid for almost 900K?
How many choose the Porsche? One...........two maybe.
Then the Lambo guy can go out and also buy a whole bunch of world class cars. Take your pick.
Skull..........lmao. You gotta get in here more........we're dying in here trying to lighten the mood in this place set by the doom and gloom misery of the true believers.
meh.............they'll sell about 17 of them.
LOLOLOL.....so you're still totally retarded, eh kookster....here's another electric car that is selling pretty well.....but all of these are just preliminary models.....watch what happens in the next few years when the next generation lithium batteries come into production and plug-in pure electric vehicles can go 3 or 4 hundred miles on a charge that only takes 10 minutes.....since electrics are way cheaper to drive per mile than gasoline powered cars, everyone with more than half a brain is going to want one....not you, of course, kookster, considering the peanut sized brain you're cursed with.....
Tesla to start deliveries of Model S electric cars next month
By Jerry Hirsch
Los Angeles Times
May 22, 2012
(excerpts)
Tesla Motors Inc. said it will begin delivering its first mass production electric car - the high-end Model S to customers starting June 22, about a month ahead of the expected schedule. The Palo Alto-based company says it has more than 10,000 orders for the battery-powered car but that not all will be delivered this year. The sedan offers seating for five adults and, in some configurations, room for an extra two children's seats. It also is to have some speed, with an anticipated zero-to-60-mph acceleration of less than six seconds. The price of the Model S ranges from $49,900 to $97,900, depending on its mileage range and options and after a federal $7,500 tax credit for electric vehicles. Early sales will be of the most expensive model. Morgan Stanley, the investment bank, forecast that Tesla will sell close to 3,000 cars this year, 16,000 next year and 19,000 the following year.
By definition a hybrid is a cross between two technologies, gas and electric. It will be years before we see vehicles in mass production that get 300 miles to a charge. Meanwhile, hybrids will continue to see major growth in sales for at lease the next 5 years. Just as the technology in electrics is improving so is the technology in hybrids.meh.............they'll sell about 17 of them.
LOLOLOL.....so you're still totally retarded, eh kookster....here's another electric car that is selling pretty well.....but all of these are just preliminary models.....watch what happens in the next few years when the next generation lithium batteries come into production and plug-in pure electric vehicles can go 3 or 4 hundred miles on a charge that only takes 10 minutes.....since electrics are way cheaper to drive per mile than gasoline powered cars, everyone with more than half a brain is going to want one....not you, of course, kookster, considering the peanut sized brain you're cursed with.....
Tesla to start deliveries of Model S electric cars next month
By Jerry Hirsch
Los Angeles Times
May 22, 2012
(excerpts)
Tesla Motors Inc. said it will begin delivering its first mass production electric car -– the high-end Model S to customers starting June 22, about a month ahead of the expected schedule. The Palo Alto-based company says it has more than 10,000 orders for the battery-powered car but that not all will be delivered this year. The sedan offers seating for five adults and, in some configurations, room for an extra two children's seats. It also is to have some speed, with an anticipated zero-to-60-mph acceleration of less than six seconds. The price of the Model S ranges from $49,900 to $97,900, depending on its mileage range and options and after a federal $7,500 tax credit for electric vehicles. Early sales will be of the most expensive model. Morgan Stanley, the investment bank, forecast that Tesla will sell close to 3,000 cars this year, 16,000 next year and 19,000 the following year.
LOLOL. The walleyedretard is spewing more of his ignorant denier cult myths, I see. Total BS of course.meh.............they'll sell about 17 of them.
LOLOLOL.....so you're still totally retarded, eh kookster....here's another electric car that is selling pretty well.....but all of these are just preliminary models.....watch what happens in the next few years when the next generation lithium batteries come into production and plug-in pure electric vehicles can go 3 or 4 hundred miles on a charge that only takes 10 minutes.....since electrics are way cheaper to drive per mile than gasoline powered cars, everyone with more than half a brain is going to want one....not you, of course, kookster, considering the peanut sized brain you're cursed with.....
Tesla to start deliveries of Model S electric cars next month
By Jerry Hirsch
Los Angeles Times
May 22, 2012
(excerpts)
Tesla Motors Inc. said it will begin delivering its first mass production electric car - the high-end Model S to customers starting June 22, about a month ahead of the expected schedule. The Palo Alto-based company says it has more than 10,000 orders for the battery-powered car but that not all will be delivered this year. The sedan offers seating for five adults and, in some configurations, room for an extra two children's seats. It also is to have some speed, with an anticipated zero-to-60-mph acceleration of less than six seconds. The price of the Model S ranges from $49,900 to $97,900, depending on its mileage range and options and after a federal $7,500 tax credit for electric vehicles. Early sales will be of the most expensive model. Morgan Stanley, the investment bank, forecast that Tesla will sell close to 3,000 cars this year, 16,000 next year and 19,000 the following year.
No, dear boy they are not "way cheaper". they cost more per mile to drive than a fossil fueled car.
Add to that the toxic nature of the batteries when they fail and the associated cost to exchange them out and the cost goes up yet again. Then when you consider you can buy an equivalent car for 28,000 and the cost differential is that much greater. Nice try but real world mathematics bites you in the ass yet again.
