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Dalton Trumbo....Re-Polished
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You and I have worked well, symbiotically in fact, to reveal what a dunce you are.
Keep up the good work.
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"Fifty years of liberal propaganda people to thinking of Communist Party member as lovable idealists and the urge to fire them from their government jobs as an irrational anachronistic prejudice. Allowing card-carrying members of the Communist Party to handle classified material after the Alger Hiss case would be like encouraging al-Qaeda members to carry box cutters on airplanes after 9-11."
Coulter
9. The communists were not 'lovable idealists' or a benign political party. They were and are psychopatic homicidal maniacs who actually planned a revolution to make America into Bolshevik Russia.
And Dalton Trumbo wanted to be part of that revolution.
His sort, American supporters of communism, agreed with the plan to turn America into the abattoir that was Russia under their communists.
a. Roosevelt's New Deal was riddled with communists....paid agents of Stalin. At a dinner party, a number administration officials spilled the beans, spoke openly about the plans to cause a revolution so they can rebuild America in the Soviet's image. "Wirt claimed he had "discovered" evidence of a plot within FDR's administration to launch a Bolshevik takeover of the United States..... garnering all kind of media attention, and even testifying before Congress about his evidence of a "concrete plan" for the overthrow of the U.S. government crafted by members of FDR's "Brain Trusters."
"Roosevelt is only the Kerensky of this revolution," he quoted them. (Kerensky was the provisional leader of Russia just before the 1917 Bolshevik revolution.) The hoodwinked president would be permitted to stay in office, they said, "until we are ready to supplant him with a Stalin." The Washington Monthly
10. BTW....in "The Rise and Fall of the KGB in America," Haynes, Klehr, and Vassiliev confirm that KGB records reveal the dinner party official named by Wirt were spies. (p. 220, 528.)
a. Six years after the Democrats on the select committee branded Wirt a liar, one of the members, Democrat John J. O'Connor (Democrat, NY) "confessed in a statement today that he had helped prevent a thorough investigation in 1934 of charges by the late Dr. William A. Wirt that a group of New Dealers were plotting a new American revolution....expressed belief that most of the latter's charges had come true.....there was a deliberately conceived plot among New Dealers to overthrow the established social order in this country and substitute a planned economy."
"O'Connor Admits Helping to Discredit Dr. Wirt," The Utica Observer-Dispatch, April 10, 1940.
So, when the simpleton at the Hollywood Reporter writes this "......he's [Trumbo is] emblematic of oppressed people throughout our history, whether it's African-Americans or Latinos or communists."
One need ask which African-Americans or Latinos want to turn the United States over to Soviet communists, or turn America into a gulag?
Which ones?
Remember this when the new Dalton Trumbo propaganda film opens in November.
Coulter
9. The communists were not 'lovable idealists' or a benign political party. They were and are psychopatic homicidal maniacs who actually planned a revolution to make America into Bolshevik Russia.
And Dalton Trumbo wanted to be part of that revolution.
His sort, American supporters of communism, agreed with the plan to turn America into the abattoir that was Russia under their communists.
a. Roosevelt's New Deal was riddled with communists....paid agents of Stalin. At a dinner party, a number administration officials spilled the beans, spoke openly about the plans to cause a revolution so they can rebuild America in the Soviet's image. "Wirt claimed he had "discovered" evidence of a plot within FDR's administration to launch a Bolshevik takeover of the United States..... garnering all kind of media attention, and even testifying before Congress about his evidence of a "concrete plan" for the overthrow of the U.S. government crafted by members of FDR's "Brain Trusters."
"Roosevelt is only the Kerensky of this revolution," he quoted them. (Kerensky was the provisional leader of Russia just before the 1917 Bolshevik revolution.) The hoodwinked president would be permitted to stay in office, they said, "until we are ready to supplant him with a Stalin." The Washington Monthly
10. BTW....in "The Rise and Fall of the KGB in America," Haynes, Klehr, and Vassiliev confirm that KGB records reveal the dinner party official named by Wirt were spies. (p. 220, 528.)
a. Six years after the Democrats on the select committee branded Wirt a liar, one of the members, Democrat John J. O'Connor (Democrat, NY) "confessed in a statement today that he had helped prevent a thorough investigation in 1934 of charges by the late Dr. William A. Wirt that a group of New Dealers were plotting a new American revolution....expressed belief that most of the latter's charges had come true.....there was a deliberately conceived plot among New Dealers to overthrow the established social order in this country and substitute a planned economy."
"O'Connor Admits Helping to Discredit Dr. Wirt," The Utica Observer-Dispatch, April 10, 1940.
So, when the simpleton at the Hollywood Reporter writes this "......he's [Trumbo is] emblematic of oppressed people throughout our history, whether it's African-Americans or Latinos or communists."
One need ask which African-Americans or Latinos want to turn the United States over to Soviet communists, or turn America into a gulag?
Which ones?
Remember this when the new Dalton Trumbo propaganda film opens in November.
ThoughtCrimes
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Your brand of radical neoconservative fascism is what tore liberty from those folks 60 odd years ago. They were only guilty of your ilk's brand of thought crime! And here you are trying to revive/relive that type of fascist regime. You're disgusting trading in that Ubber Right Wing Propaganda! You Love the Big Lie!
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Yes...the Hollywood 7 were Stalinists under party discipline to not admit their affiliation with the Soviet Union and their agents. They were traitors who deserved a lot more than to not work in Hollywood.....
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You do realize that were agents working with stalin's communists...right...they weren't poor little lambs caught in the wrong place at the wrong time....they actively supported the overthrow of the U.S. they were traitors.
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Must be a Starkey sock account ...neocon..ilk
ThoughtCrimes
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Another Chica water carrier for the resident rabid racist right neoconservative fascist propagandist, EH!
ThoughtCrimes
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Well, can you cite the trial transcript for those charges of communist agency for the Hollywood 10? Come on BOY back up you bullshit! Contempt charges now equate to traitorous activity? DAMN!
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ThoughtCrimes
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I see. And did you have other fantasies when you masturbated?
2aguy
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What is it with you lefties and sex....you can barely post 2 sentences before you are talking about penises and sex acts....have you so little control over yourselves that you just can't help it......grow the **** up....get a job, and try to act like an adult....
ThoughtCrimes
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I'll take your deflection as an outright admission that you piled a bunch of bullshit up about the Hollywood 10 being Soviet agents and how, "They all admitted it and they showed up in Soviet records...."
Thought so! Don't ******* lie outright like that. You have lost ALL credibility with me and probably many others by your demonstration of dishonesty!
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Here you go dipshit.......
The Stalinist Ten--A True Story About Communists in the Movie Industry
The Hollywood Ten, far from being “radical innocents,” far from having just “flirted with Communist ideas,” as their sympathizers so frequently insist, had all been committed to a Soviet America. Each had been an active Communist for several years. Each was participating in Communist activities during the year of the 1947 hearings.
Each was pledging loyalty to Stalin and the American Communist Party at the very moment a large segment of the liberal community was vehemently condemning Stalin, kicking Communist Party members out of both labor and liberal organizations, and forming new groups barring CP members from holding office or even joining.
Each had paid dues to the Party, met in secret CP gatherings, embraced CP projects, adorned various CP fronts, and lavished money or time or both on Party projects, and each had been issued a Communist Party USA card or a Communist Political Association card (the Communist Political Association was the name of the Party for fourteen months during WWII). The cards produced by the Committee were not “fabrications,” as Ceplair and Englund falsely suggest.
These men, along with hundreds of their comrades in the movie industry, were determined to transform Hollywood into a colony of the Kremlin. Indefatigable, they recruited Party members, taught radicals of all stripes their craft at Marxist “academies,” indoctrinated colleagues with their ideology, and schooled fellow writers on how to insert Red propaganda into American films.
They deeply penetrated or aided others in penetrating the screenwriters’, directors’, and actors’ guilds, and they worked feverishly to help fellow Reds seize control of the labor side of Hollywood through Herb Sorrell’s Conference of Studio Unions. If they could gain control over the guilds and the unions, they reasoned, they could then compel the producers to meet not only the economic and political demands of the Left, but the “content” demands as well—that Hollywood make radical, pro-Communist films. They never did subdue Hollywood completely, but they wielded enormous influence. And it took a determined anti-Red contingent in Hollywood and the long-scorned House Un-American Activities Committee to finally break their power.
By October of 1947, when the hearings began and the Soviet Union posed an obvious threat to the West, Hollywood’s Communists had been active in a subversive party that was entirely controlled by Moscow, had thoroughly penetrated American society, and was engaged in massive espionage on behalf of the Soviets (including the filching of atomic secrets).
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And these idiots admitted their treason at various points in their lives...
We don’t need the HUAC “inquisitors” or those hated “informers” to prove Lardner’s abiding loyalty to Stalin, though they provided plenty of solid information to underscore the point. We have evidence from the horse’s mouth. In The Lardners, Ring Lardner Jr.’s very incomplete memoir published nearly thirty years after his HUAC ordeal, he relates how he toed the Soviet line throughout the ’30s and ’40s.
Lardner discusses his “conversion to Marxism-Leninism” and his “affiliation growing stronger as I learned more facts and analyzed them in the cold light of reason.” In the late 1930s, he would go to “a Marxist study group one night” and “a meeting of the newly formed youth unit in the party on another.” Whenever he went out by himself in the evening in the 1940s, “it was to attend a Communist meeting of one sort or another.”
We don’t need the HUAC “inquisitors” or those hated “informers” to prove Lardner’s abiding loyalty to Stalin, though they provided plenty of solid information to underscore the point. We have evidence from the horse’s mouth. In The Lardners, Ring Lardner Jr.’s very incomplete memoir published nearly thirty years after his HUAC ordeal, he relates how he toed the Soviet line throughout the ’30s and ’40s.
Lardner discusses his “conversion to Marxism-Leninism” and his “affiliation growing stronger as I learned more facts and analyzed them in the cold light of reason.” In the late 1930s, he would go to “a Marxist study group one night” and “a meeting of the newly formed youth unit in the party on another.” Whenever he went out by himself in the evening in the 1940s, “it was to attend a Communist meeting of one sort or another.”
None of your post and links supports your claims. There is little argument that some of these people were students and even supporters of Marxism-Leninism, but that is not the issue. The issue is taking the leap and projecting these people into being traitors and anti American insurgents and or spies. You are doing what they did back in the witch hunt era. You are attributing guilt of crimes with nothing more than what were legal associations and constitutional rights. America has advanced from those days. No matter how much the majority disagrees and finds distasteful, people have a right to follow their beliefs. The government does not have the right to go after people just because some members of government don't like their beliefs.
ThoughtCrimes
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You're not serious are you? First your "source"!
CNS news . com the wholly owned "conservative news service" of Brent Bozell under the domain name of www.conservativenews.org. Yeah, real ******* great source there bonehead!
Now show me where they violated the law by speech, thought and association protected by Amendment I from your "source". I don't see it in that piece of shit garbage from a piece of shit source to substantiate one iota of your claim they were traitors...not one trace of a Court record...NADA! That Ky. clerk got sent to jail for contempt today. Does that make her a Soviet or Ruuskie sympathizer and traitor too!
You got piss running down your leg, sonny! Don't bring a dull & broken pocket knife to a mix up child...its not good for your self-respect in the long run. Oh and while I'm here, are you taking lessons from Chica on how to properly cite and attribute a copyrighted piece, or what?
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Keep telling yourself that....they supported and aided stalin and his mass murderers....knowingly......
ThoughtCrimes
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How deep ya gonna go there?I've been reading reviews and quotes from the book you linked, Hollywood Traitors by Allen Ryskind. Without having the book in hand I am unable to evaluate his methods of sourcing. Off the cuff, it appears to written as a commentary/narrative rather than an academic history. Sourcing methods makes all the difference in this kink of book. In fairness, the reviews say it is well sourced, but that could mean different things. It is a new book, so it will be read a lot I believe as this new movie comes out.
Do you have the hard copy of this book?
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