Crush the Armed Insurrection

Merely boyish high spirits, a kegger that got out of hand. A few bad actors, likely plants from the tRump administration, caused all the trouble. It was just a day of protest, normal tourist visits, nothing to worry about.
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You give the Trump administration too much credit. Only Democrats are so completely nefarious that they would stoop to false flag operations like Charlottesville and January 6th.
 
Right — and that’s exactly why I cited real examples. Not to claim a pattern, but to show that ICE, like any agency made up of people, has made serious mistakes. That’s not an attack — it’s evidence that oversight and accountability matter when lives are on the line.


You’ve misunderstood me. I wasn’t agreeing with IM2 — I was correcting the record. Both sides were stuck saying “name one,” so I did. That’s not endorsement, that’s evidence. Clarifying facts shouldn’t be mistaken for picking sides.
Strong emotions don’t make something an insurrection. If the response to unrest is to label it a war and call for martial law, that doesn’t restore order — it declares open conflict with the people you’re supposed to protect. We restore peace by using proven tactics of de-escalation that deny the cartels their chaos and give the community its stability back.
You do know we are posting in current events?
 
All three cases are well-documented and made national news. You can Google Peter Sean Brown ICE, Francisco Erwin Galicia, or Mark Lyttle and find coverage from multiple mainstream outlets, court filings, and watchdog reports. I didn’t post them to stir drama — just to answer the challenge to name one.
You're a nubbie here with no track record of note and nothing providing bona fides.
Usual protocol is if one presents something as "fact" they are obligated to document and provide sources validating.

Neither I nor anyone else here should be doing your homework.

BTW, you presented four cases/examples.

At this point, this is your status;
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There is no insurrection in L.A. I know you racists like seeing the abuse of non white people, but ICE is acting in violation of the law, and that is what needs to be crushed.
When a foreigner illegally crosses the border, they have committed a crime. It's federal law. Every day they remain; they are committing a crime by staying here. It's federal law. Federal law "always" supersedes city, local and state laws.
If you want there to be no borders or border control, pack up and move to Europe, they are letting in all sorts of garbage and paying a violent price for it.
 
The idea that Antifa has anything to do with resistance to ICE round ups is a bigoted right wing trope.

NO evidence exists to support it.

ICE is the only people using tear gas.

ICEcstarted with the masks and hidden identity before the first protests occurred.

When you have to hide your face when you “enforce the law” something is seriously wrong.

ICE is diligently trying to hide what it is doing from public view.
What part of "and similar insurrectionist groups" did you fail to grasp ?

Since you want to make the focus on "Antifa", we could start with this from page 8, in Introduction to this book;

Unmasked: Inside Antifa's Radical Plan to Destroy Democracy ...

....
What my mentors failed to see at the time was antifa’s sophisticated strategy to destabilize society using
propaganda, radicalization, violence, and even electoral politics. It was always wrong to reduce antifa to a ragtag
group of street hooligans. Behind their violence is a plan to destroy the nation-state, America in particular, to bring
about a revolution that leads to their vision of utopia. In 2020, the country experienced a taste of this when a
relatively small group of committed radicals incited and carried out massive damage to life and property in the
name of “anti-racism”.
...
page 13 of this pdf version;

Ngo presents a couple of cases of Antifa attacking ICE back 4-5 years ago when this book was published. They haven't stopped making ICE one of their targets. Recent protests and demonstrations, etc. opposing ICE and in support of criminal law breaking illegal immigrants is classic Antifa Modus Operandi.
 
Right — and that’s exactly why I cited real examples. Not to claim a pattern, but to show that ICE, like any agency made up of people, has made serious mistakes. That’s not an attack — it’s evidence that oversight and accountability matter when lives are on the line.


You’ve misunderstood me. I wasn’t agreeing with IM2 — I was correcting the record. Both sides were stuck saying “name one,” so I did. That’s not endorsement, that’s evidence. Clarifying facts shouldn’t be mistaken for picking sides.
Strong emotions don’t make something an insurrection. If the response to unrest is to label it a war and call for martial law, that doesn’t restore order — it declares open conflict with the people you’re supposed to protect. We restore peace by using proven tactics of de-escalation that deny the cartels their chaos and give the community its stability back.
"unrest" is not "right of people to peaceably assemble" Amendment I of US Constitution.
Too often in past several years "unrest" from the Left is far more than just "harsh language" and seldom "peaceably". Riot, vandalism, arson, assaults, mayhem, insurrection, etc. is how it has been most often expressed.

If some of the protestors show up wearing all black, with padding/body armor, carrying shields and bats, it's a clear sign they plan to "rumble", not just "unrest". :rolleyes:
 
Pardoning the people that shit all over our Capital and assaulted police officers is enforcing the law? You assholes are the ones trying to destroy our Constitution and rule of law. You have yet to see the extent to which we are going to protest and prevent your fascist wet dream.
Actually your Antifa* neighbors, and their "cousins" around this nation set the example of 'destroying our Constitution and rule of law" back during the Summer of 2020 with their insurrections, "autonomous zones", riots, arsons, vandalism, assaults on citizens and the police, a couple dozen killings, etc.
* Rose City Antifa
From their(your) introduction statement;

"
Rose City Antifa opposes fascist organizing through direct action, education, and through solidarity with leftist spaces, activists, and organizations.

Direct Action is any work that prevents fascist organizing, and when that is not possible, provides consequences to fascist organizers. This is supported by researching and tracking fascist organizations.
....
Solidarity helps us model the kind of world we want to live in: a classless society, free from all forms of oppression. We ally ourselves with other groups that have similar values, and support them in their organizing. Through this solidarity, we hope to create radical spaces that can not only grow these movements, but also act as a viable alternative to those that seek community and may be preyed on by fasicsts who provide false solutions to problems of class and alienation in our society. "

This line of yours;
"You have yet to see the extent to which we are going to protest and prevent your fascist wet dream."
Echoing the "Direct Action" above is about the closest one can get to showing their 'membership card' in Antifa.

Your attempt at dis-information pravda needs improving, Komrade.
 
Right — and that’s exactly why I cited real examples. Not to claim a pattern, but to show that ICE, like any agency made up of people, has made serious mistakes. That’s not an attack — it’s evidence that oversight and accountability matter when lives are on the line.


You’ve misunderstood me. I wasn’t agreeing with IM2 — I was correcting the record. Both sides were stuck saying “name one,” so I did. That’s not endorsement, that’s evidence. Clarifying facts shouldn’t be mistaken for picking sides.
Strong emotions don’t make something an insurrection. If the response to unrest is to label it a war and call for martial law, that doesn’t restore order — it declares open conflict with the people you’re supposed to protect. We restore peace by using proven tactics of de-escalation that deny the cartels their chaos and give the community its stability back.
I think you missed the point. We had a racist saying that they were grabbing American citizens. In that many years that few mistakes shows that they obviously have proper oversite and they are not grabbing American citizens off the street. Mistakes are made by human beings. But to have that few is showing that they are doing an amazing job of making very few.
 
Yeah.....so you think that what happened GD 5 years ago gives you the right to shoot at cops and murder them.'

**** you.
It is you right wingers that think you have the right to murder. From Oklahoma City bombing to the many mass shootings because you don't like people that don't look like you. And we see ICE putting handcuffs on children. No wonder they hide their faces.
 
I think you missed the point. We had a racist saying that they were grabbing American citizens. In that many years that few mistakes shows that they obviously have proper oversite and they are not grabbing American citizens off the street. Mistakes are made by human beings. But to have that few is showing that they are doing an amazing job of making very few.
LOL Until you become one of their mistakes. LOL
 
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It is you right wingers that think you have the right to murder. From Oklahoma City bombing to the many mass shootings because you don't like people that don't look like you. And we see ICE putting handcuffs on children. No wonder they hide their faces.
Wow....you really have to go way back in the past to prove your silly point. Christ....the Oklahoma City bomber was groomed by the Clinton Administration, asshole. I remember when it happened....when I was still in the military over 30 years ago.

We have constant examples of you violent pricks attacking people right now every single day.....but you think you can get away with using moral-relativism from ancient history.
 
LOL Until you become one of their mistakes. LOL
Look I get it you are crazy. You have that right. But you are not able to drag normal people and a normal population into your own crazy world. I realize that the democrat cult only believes in their version of the law and their version of the constitution but the rest of us believe all laws should be followed.
 
Look I get it you are crazy. You have that right. But you are not able to drag normal people and a normal population into your own crazy world. I realize that the democrat cult only believes in their version of the law and their version of the constitution but the rest of us believe all laws should be followed.
These losers swallow every lie from the media and ask for seconds.

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