Covid Took Trump Out Of The White House And Covid Put Trump Back In

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I just read an interesting story which said that Trump lost in 2020, mostly due to Covid, otherwise he would have easily won re-election. Then the story went on to say that Trump won in 2024, also due to Covid. Democrat's responses to Covid, which included mandates and lock downs, increased inflation and took away people's rights, put our kids behind in school, and created an environment where only about 25% of Americans say was going in the right direction.

I'm not posting the link because the article also went far out into the weeds instead of focusing solely on what their headline was. In any event, I found that theory pretty damned accurate. Biden's inflation due to Democrat's responses to Covid hung around Harris's neck like an albatross and with only that 25% of Americans saying the country was heading in the right direction, and Harris saying that she wouldn't have done anything any differently, she was toast.

Covid took Trump out of the White House and Democrat's responses to Covid put Trump back into the White House.
 
I just read an interesting story which said that Trump lost in 2020, mostly due to Covid, otherwise he would have easily won re-election. Then the story went on to say that Trump won in 2024, also due to Covid. Democrat's responses to Covid, which included mandates and lock downs, increased inflation and took away people's rights, put our kids behind in school, and created an environment where only about 25% of Americans say was going in the right direction.

I'm not posting the link because the article also went far out into the weeds instead of focusing solely on what their headline was. In any event, I found that theory pretty damned accurate. Biden's inflation due to Democrat's responses to Covid hung around Harris's neck like an albatross and with only that 25% of Americans saying the country was heading in the right direction, and Harris saying that she wouldn't have done anything any differently, she was toast.

Covid took Trump out of the White House and Democrat's responses to Covid put Trump back into the White House.
All he had to do in 2020 was appear to be giving a shit about the thousands dropping dead every week and he would have won re-election. But doing the job he was elected for was apparently above him. So the voters showed him the door. Had he just done his job, we could have avoided the worst effects of the pandemic.

And COVID had nothing to do with Harris losing on Tuesday. And you do remember that COVID began on Trump's watch and that both Republicans and Democrats had to step in and make the tough choices when he was too busy campaigning, tweeting, golfing, and watching Fox News. :)
 
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I just read an interesting story which said that Trump lost in 2020, mostly due to Covid, otherwise he would have easily won re-election. Then the story went on to say that Trump won in 2024, also due to Covid. Democrat's responses to Covid, which included mandates and lock downs, increased inflation and took away people's rights, put our kids behind in school, and created an environment where only about 25% of Americans say was going in the right direction.

I'm not posting the link because the article also went far out into the weeds instead of focusing solely on what their headline was. In any event, I found that theory pretty damned accurate. Biden's inflation due to Democrat's responses to Covid hung around Harris's neck like an albatross and with only that 25% of Americans saying the country was heading in the right direction, and Harris saying that she wouldn't have done anything any differently, she was toast.

Covid took Trump out of the White House and Democrat's responses to Covid put Trump back into the White House.

Actually, I would say that the midterm activities of the S.C and Liz Cheney who I believe were trying to hurt the GOP in the mid-terms to promote the idea that "see, Trump has hurt your party it was supposed to be a Red Wave!" may have hurt the Dems the most.

Why? It probably conveyed to Biden that "hey, look how popular I am? I just crushed it in the mid-terms. I'm not a one term president, I am a two term president!". Thus, he decided he was going to pursue re-election.

If the S.C didn't overturn RvW, if Cheney didn't attack Trump, the Dems don't get the big rush in midterm voters and Biden probably thinks to himself, "damn the GOP just had a wave, maybe I am not able to win a re-election".

Just the opposite occurred and they believed this mid-term could be replicated in the General Election as women had turned out unusually high in the midterms if I recall correctly as the RvW decision was fresh and able to mobilize them.

That's my take anyways. I am a cause/effect type of guy who likes to dissect events and what immediately followed and then sew it all together with the present or even the future.
 
Actually, I would say that the midterm activities of the S.C and Liz Cheney who I believe were trying to hurt the GOP in the mid-terms to promote the idea that "see, Trump has hurt your party it was supposed to be a Red Wave!" may have hurt the Dems the most.

Why? It probably conveyed to Biden that "hey, look how popular I am? I just crushed it in the mid-terms. I'm not a one term president, I am a two term president!". Thus, he decided he was going to pursue re-election.

If the S.C didn't overturn RvW, if Cheney didn't attack Trump, the Dems don't get the big rush in midterm voters and Biden probably thinks to himself, "damn the GOP just had a wave, maybe I am not able to win a re-election".

Just the opposite occurred and they believed this mid-term could be replicated in the General Election as women had turned out unusually high in the midterms if I recall correctly as the RvW decision was fresh and able to mobilize them.

That's my take anyways. I am a cause/effect type of guy who likes to dissect events and what immediately followed and then sew it all together with the present or even the future.
There is a lot of blame to go around. That's the best part of it. Democrats have a dam with lots and lots of holes and they don't have enough fingers to put in the holes. If there was just one or two fixes they would have a better chance of rebounding but they've got one hell of a lot of problems to work on.
 
All he had to do in 2020 was appear to be giving a shit about the thousands dropping dead every week and he would have won re-election. But doing the job he was elected for was apparently above him. So the voters showed him the door. Had he just done his job, we could have avoided the worst effects of the pandemic.

And COVID had nothing to do with Harris losing on Tuesday. And you do remember that COVID began on Trump's watch and that both Republicans and Democrats had to step in and make the tough choices when he was too busy campaigning, tweeting, golfing, and watching Fox News. :)

Was it Trump's fault that people died from Covid? Was Trump the one who mandated locking contagious people up in nursing homes, shutting down businesses, and allowing infected people to travel here from other countries?

You are delusional. BTW, have you gotten down on your knees and thanked President Trump the the vaccines he pushed through in record time? You do know that most new vaccines usually take anywhere from 5-8 years to develop, don't you?
 
Apparently Trump had nothing to do with the government response to COVID.

It's just incredible how this man avoids responsibility for basically anything. It's his super power.
 
Apparently Trump had nothing to do with the government response to COVID.

It's just incredible how this man avoids responsibility for basically anything. It's his super power.
We've had four years of Biden's high disapproval numbers, only 25% of Americans saying the country is going in the right direction, a total repudiation of Biden/Harris by the voters, and yet Democrats have never once taken any responsibility for anything. Everything that went wrong is always someone else's fault.
 
Was it Trump's fault that people died from Covid? Was Trump the one who mandated locking contagious people up in nursing homes, shutting down businesses, and allowing infected people to travel here from other countries?

You are delusional. BTW, have you gotten down on your knees and thanked President Trump the the vaccines he pushed through in record time? You do know that most new vaccines usually take anywhere from 5-8 years to develop, don't you?
Of course not. Neither was the virus making it here to our shores his fault. That was inevitable no matter who sat in the big chair.
What is his fault, is the RESPONSE to the virus. Or lack thereof for the first 2.5 months. Until the adults had to step in and save him from himself. :)
All of the worst effects of the pandemic, the companies shutting down, loss of jobs, tanking stock market, ALL of the dead bodies...all get rolled up and laid at his feet.

And here you are four years later, STILL repeating lies. Trump had nothing to do with the vaccine rollout.
Who's delusional? :auiqs.jpg:
 
Of course not. Neither was the virus making it here to our shores his fault. That was inevitable no matter who sat in the big chair.
What is his fault, is the RESPONSE to the virus. Or lack thereof for the first 2.5 months. Until the adults had to step in and save him from himself. :)
All of the worst effects of the pandemic, the companies shutting down, loss of jobs, tanking stock market, ALL of the dead bodies...all get rolled up and laid at his feet.

And here you are four years later, STILL repeating lies. Trump had nothing to do with the vaccine rollout.
Who's delusional? :auiqs.jpg:

What lack of response? Do you really think any President could have handled it any better? Hell, it took Biden/Harris a full two years to recover from the pandemic by way of massive spending bills that only wrecked the economy, drove up inflation and prices, and put us so far in debt we'll never get out.

Maybe you just have unrealistic expectations of government, I don't.

Government is not your "savior."
 
What lack of response? Do you really think any President could have handled it any better?

Maybe you just have unrealistic expectations of government, I don't. Government is not your "savior."
The response starts at the top (Trump) and works its way down from the fed to the state.
Take away all the ******* conspiracy theories and misinformation, and look at the response
to the floods in NC and TN. That's how things are supposed to work. From the fed to the state.

Government is no one's savior. But it does have a role to play in how things work in this country.
Look at all the neighbors and individual contributors that helped out in NC and TN. Neighbor helping
neighbor. As it should be. But the feds and the states were there. Just like they should be.
 
We've had four years of Biden's high disapproval numbers, only 25% of Americans saying the country is going in the right direction, a total repudiation of Biden/Harris by the voters, and yet Democrats have never once taken any responsibility for anything. Everything that went wrong is always someone else's fault.
Biden got almost all the blame for inflation when he had very little to do with it. I would argue Trump had far more to do with the inflation experienced under Biden than Biden did. Even then, Trump only deserves some blame for inflation too. The Fed deserves a lot of blame. Decisions made in a lot of other countries deserve blame too. Finally, COVID itself is to blame.

Not that voters agreed, but they're often not very rational or all that well informed.

When it comes to inflation, I'm not sure exactly what actions voters are repudiating. Do you?
 
Biden got almost all the blame for inflation when he had very little to do with it. I would argue Trump had far more to do with the inflation experienced under Biden than Biden did. Even then, Trump only deserves some blame for inflation too. The Fed deserves a lot of blame. Decisions made in a lot of other countries deserve blame too. Finally, COVID itself is to blame.

Not that voters agreed, but they're often not very rational or all that well informed.

When it comes to inflation, I'm not sure exactly what actions voters are repudiating. Do you?
It was democrats who locked down the country. It was democrats who got out of Afghanistan so badly that it encouraged Russia to invade Ukraine. It was democrats who passed legislation further balooning the national debt. It was democrats who fought for union workers to get a raise from $30 per hour to $40 per hour, raising prices on the poor, the minorities, and the elderly, who didn't get union raises.
 
It was democrats who locked down the country. It was democrats who got out of Afghanistan so badly that it encouraged Russia to invade Ukraine. It was democrats who passed legislation further balooning the national debt. It was democrats who fought for union workers to get a raise from $30 per hour to $40 per hour, raising prices on the poor, the minorities, and the elderly, who didn't get union raises.
Weren't you just complaining about how Dems never take responsibility for anything yet here you are saying that Republicans bear no responsibility. Hypocritical.

Both parties locked down the country, including Trump. It's insane to lay all the blame at the feet of Dems. Not to mention that global lockdowns affected global supply chains, so even if this country had stayed totally open, we still would have had massive disruption and inflation.

As for ballooning the debt, it was bipartisan legislation that resulted in the debt passed during COVID. Everywhere from stimulus checks to PPP to corporate bailouts. Both parties were responsible.

Not to mention this all happened BEFORE Biden took office anyway. Blaming him for the decisions made in 2020 is very illogical.
 
The response starts at the top (Trump) and works its way down from the fed to the state.
Take away all the ******* conspiracy theories and misinformation, and look at the response
to the floods in NC and TN. That's how things are supposed to work. From the fed to the state.

Government is no one's savior. But it does have a role to play in how things work in this country.
Look at all the neighbors and individual contributors that helped out in NC and TN. Neighbor helping
neighbor. As it should be. But the feds and the states were there. Just like they should be.

If the ultimate responsibility lies at the top of the chain, Presidents wouldn't need advisors that give them faulty advice, like Fauci, the CDC, and others did.

Trump is not a ******* virologist.
 
If the ultimate responsibility lies at the top of the chain, Presidents wouldn't need advisors that give them faulty advice, like Fauci, the CDC, and others did.

Trump is not a ******* virologist.
He doesn't need to be a virologist. No one asked him to be that. But he did need to be aware that it was gaining a foothold and spreading (It's just one person coming from China, we have it under control".)
And then, to not only ignore the warnings from his advisors, but to ignore it for the first 2.5 months is what did his re-election bid in.
 
Apparently Trump had nothing to do with the government response to COVID.

It's just incredible how this man avoids responsibility for basically anything. It's his super power.

If that's the way you feel, then give those Covid stimulus checks and the jabs of vaccine you took. Hell, Biden/Harris wouldn't even call out China for giving us the damned virus.
 
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Of course not. Neither was the virus making it here to our shores his fault. That was inevitable no matter who sat in the big chair.
What is his fault, is the RESPONSE to the virus. Or lack thereof for the first 2.5 months. Until the adults had to step in and save him from himself. :)
All of the worst effects of the pandemic, the companies shutting down, loss of jobs, tanking stock market, ALL of the dead bodies...all get rolled up and laid at his feet.

And here you are four years later, STILL repeating lies. Trump had nothing to do with the vaccine rollout.
Who's delusional? :auiqs.jpg:

Apparently you folks were so busy trying to impeach Trump, you weren't paying attention to anything else.

From the White Archives:

President Trump’s Historic Coronavirus Response​


My Administration will stop at nothing to save lives and shield the vulnerable.



President Donald J. Trump


KEY TAKEAWAYS:


  • Took early action to cut off travel from China
  • Built the world’s leading testing system from nothing
  • Enacted mitigation measures to slow the spread
  • Mobilized public and private sectors to secure needed supplies
  • Took action to protect vulnerable Americans
  • Launched effort to deliver a vaccine and therapeutics in record time
  • Provided support to workers and businesses
  • Paved way for reopening to get America working again
  • Surged resources to hot spots as they arose
  • Confronted China as origin of the virus while Democrats and media cowered

At the outset, President Trump took action to stop travel from China to stem the spread to the United States as long as possible.

  • While Democrats were focused on their impeachment sham, President Trump took swift and decisive action to stop travel from China in January and enhanced airport screenings to help stop cases from coming into the United States as long as possible.
  • In his February 4th State of the Union address, President Trump pledged to “take all necessary steps to safeguard our citizens from the virus,” while the Democrats’ response made not a single mention of the virus or even the threat of China.

President Trump built the world’s leading testing system from nothing, based on a virus we have never faced before.

  • In order to accurately trace and combat this virus, President Trump set out to build the world’s best testing system, and that’s exactly what he did.
  • We have already conducted more than 65 million tests, far outpacing any other country.

As soon as cases began to rise, President Trump released guidance to slow the spread.

  • President Trump released guidance recommending mitigation measures critical to slowing the spread of the virus, and the American people stepped up to do their part.
  • Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx have attested to the fact that President Trump took action as soon as the data was presented to him.

In order to secure the supplies needed to confront the surge in coronavirus we faced, President Trump led the largest mobilization of public and private sector resources since WWII.

  • The President directed his Administration to secure and distribute needed medical supplies to states in need – resulting in billions of PPE delivered so far.
  • At the President’s urging, private companies shifted production to supplying masks, ventilators, hand sanitizer, testing supplies, and more.
  • President Trump has acted under the Defense Production Act more than 30 times to ensure we have the supplies we need.
  • When we faced a potentially catastrophic shortage of ventilators, President Trump took action to produce 100,000 ventilators and ensure no patient who needs one goes without a ventilator.

President Trump moved swiftly to protect vulnerable communities.

  • The Administration quickly established guidelines for nursing homes and expanded telehealth opportunities to protect our vulnerable seniors.
  • The President took action to ensure that uninsured Americans are able to get the COVID-19 care and testing they need.
  • President Trump directed Secretary Carson to focus the White House Opportunity and Revitalization Council on underserved communities impacted by COVID-19.
  • The Administration is investing approximately $2 billion in community health centers, helping their 28 million patients in medically underserved areas receive the care and testing they need.

Early in the fight against the virus, President Trump launched a historic effort to develop a vaccine and therapeutics in record time.

  • President Trump understood early on that in order to defeat this virus once and for all and protect Americans, we need a vaccine and therapeutics.
  • President Trump revolutionized the clinical trial process to ensure Americans get a safe vaccine as quickly as possible, by providing unprecedented investments in leading vaccine candidates to simultaneously produce them as they are tested and developed.
  • Thanks to President Trump’s efforts, coronavirus vaccine trials have progressed at record speeds, with multiple candidates already in or near the final stage of clinical trials.

President Trump responded to the devastating toll the virus took on our businesses and workers and secured unprecedented financial support.

  • The President negotiated and launched the Paycheck Protection Program – helping save 51 million American jobs.
  • President Trump secured direct payments to help the countless Americans who are hurting due to the pandemic.
  • President Trump took executive action to give tax relief to workers, ensure unemployment benefits for those out of work, prevent families from losing their homes to eviction or foreclosure, and provide student debt relief for Americans already hurting due to the virus.

Understanding the harmful toll a never-ending shutdown would have on our Nation, President Trump provided support to help states safely reopen as soon as they were able.

  • As we built out our critical medical supplies, flattened the curve, and rapidly expanded testing, states across the country were able to safely move towards reopening.
  • President Trump ensured they had the data and resources to reopen on the correct timeframe.

As hot spots have emerged, President Trump has surged resources to impacted areas while enabling us to prevent another nationwide shutdown.

  • The President has provided support to states facing new emergences of the virus, including surging testing sites, deploying medical personnel, and advising on mitigation strategies.

While the media and Democrats refuse to do so, President Trump has called out China for its actions to ensure we prevent a similar threat from arising again.

  • President Trump has rightly called out China’s handling of the virus for refusing to be transparent and failing to contain the virus before it spread.
  • The President held the WHO accountable for its egregious bias towards China that jeopardizes the safety of Americans.
President Trump’s Historic Coronavirus Response – The White House
 
If that's the way you feel, then give those Covid stimulus checks and the jabs of vaccine you took. Hell, Biden/Harris wouldn't even call out China for giving us the damned virus.
Not sure who was president in 2020. The right wing just seems to forget. Everything that happened is because of Dems. It's mysterious.
 
Apparently you folks were so busy trying to impeach Trump, you weren't paying attention to anything else.

From the White Archives:

President Trump’s Historic Coronavirus Response​


My Administration will stop at nothing to save lives and shield the vulnerable.



President Donald J. Trump


KEY TAKEAWAYS:


  • Took early action to cut off travel from China
But failed to account for quarantining, testing, and other preventative measures for 40K US citizens flying home in a panic from China through major airports.
Again, let's stop with the excusing Trump for his disasterous response to COVID. Enough excuses. It's kinda pathetic.
  • Built the world’s leading testing system from nothing
LOL...bullshit. Gawd, just stop!! :auiqs.jpg:


No reason to respond any further. Now...go back to fluffing him. :)
 
Few know how horrifically Jews react to Nazi and Hitler . Lib loons throw that around like black guys calling each other nigga . Anyone over 50 and Jewish is imbued with that terror time and they take Nazi and Hitler very much to heart
Likely cost dim bulb profanity and insult hurling lying lib loons the election
 
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