COVID is just like the flu.

[Flopper]

Yep - masking, social distancing and other mitigation has kept the flu at record lows this season. Also, more people than ever got a flu shot.

The number of people who die each year from flu-related causes in the U.S. is 8,200 to 20,000. SOURCE: Centers for Disease Control.

Nope, COVID ain't the flu

United States
Coronavirus Cases:
29,530,165
Deaths:
533,693
Recovered:
20,094,790

Wrong.

Past Seasons Estimated Influenza Disease Burden | CDC

These page includes information about the estimated burden of influenza from past seasons, including tables of the estimated influenza disease burden (and 95% credible interval [Cr I]) by age group.

www.cdc.gov

The lowest seasonal flu death toll in the US has been 12,000 to 23,000, (in 2011), and the largest was 46,000 to 95,000, (in 2017).
So then the covid-19 average of only 30,000 per month is much less than seasonal flu, considering both the seasonal flu and covid-19 normally only last less than 2 months.

And these are the read CDC statistic, not your made up ones.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Fauxi should have be up front about his bioweapon

 

[Rigby5]

Remember when that was one of the WH talking points in the early stages of the pandemic? No reason to panic. COVID will go away when the weather gets warm. It's all under control.

Turns out, they were wrong..........in too many ways to discuss. One of the more demonstrably provable things they were wrong about was the comparison to the flu.

We wiped out the flu this year. Could we do it again?

That's what happens to influenza type viruses when people wear masks and practice social distancing. Unfortunately, COVID is a highly transmissible virus. More so than the regular flu.

The point being the COVID protocols dismissed as ineffective, infringements on freedom, a waste of time by conservatives.........they work. And if we had not implemented them, if we had not locked down the economy for a while, the infection rate and death toll would be far worse than it is.

Figures an America hating troll would bring back this old dead thread.

I have checked the voltages and then tried it my self, and it essentially is impossible to get electrocuted with a fork in a toaster.
You would have to be standing in a puddle, touch the fork to them main power cable, which is never even accessible, and not let the fork touch the grounded toaster shell at all.

 

[Lesh]

Remember when that was one of the WH talking points in the early stages of the pandemic? No reason to panic. COVID will go away when the weather gets warm. It's all under control.

Turns out, they were wrong..........in too many ways to discuss. One of the more demonstrably provable things they were wrong about was the comparison to the flu.

We wiped out the flu this year. Could we do it again?

That's what happens to influenza type viruses when people wear masks and practice social distancing. Unfortunately, COVID is a highly transmissible virus. More so than the regular flu.

The point being the COVID protocols dismissed as ineffective, infringements on freedom, a waste of time by conservatives.........they work. And if we had not implemented them, if we had not locked down the economy for a while, the infection rate and death toll would be far worse than it is.

Figures an America hating troll would bring back this old dead thread.

I have checked the voltages and then tried it my self, and it essentially is impossible to get electrocuted with a fork in a toaster.
You would have to be standing in a puddle, touch the fork to them main power cable, which is never even accessible, and not let the fork touch the grounded toaster shell at all.

Apparently it didn't kill ya but it didn't help your brain function any

 

[Rigby5]

Remember when that was one of the WH talking points in the early stages of the pandemic? No reason to panic. COVID will go away when the weather gets warm. It's all under control.

Turns out, they were wrong..........in too many ways to discuss. One of the more demonstrably provable things they were wrong about was the comparison to the flu.

We wiped out the flu this year. Could we do it again?

That's what happens to influenza type viruses when people wear masks and practice social distancing. Unfortunately, COVID is a highly transmissible virus. More so than the regular flu.

The point being the COVID protocols dismissed as ineffective, infringements on freedom, a waste of time by conservatives.........they work. And if we had not implemented them, if we had not locked down the economy for a while, the infection rate and death toll would be far worse than it is.

Figures an America hating troll would bring back this old dead thread.

I have checked the voltages and then tried it my self, and it essentially is impossible to get electrocuted with a fork in a toaster.
You would have to be standing in a puddle, touch the fork to them main power cable, which is never even accessible, and not let the fork touch the grounded toaster shell at all.

Apparently it didn't kill ya but it didn't help your brain function any

The whole point of the nichrome wire they use for toaster radiators is that it is extremely high resistance, so the voltage after a section of nichrome wire in series, is greatly reduced. The readings I got were down to like 20 volts.

But the point is that if we had not social distanced and worn masks, then covid-19 would have been gone after a month, just like all epidemics ordinarily only last about a month. So then the covid-19 death total would have been about 60,000 only.
We must never do that again.
When you "flatten the curve", you prevent any epidemic from ending.

 

[Lesh]

But the point is that if we had not social distanced and worn masks, then covid-19 would have been gone after a month,

Pure fucking nonsense.

Care you link to anyone credible making such a stupid claim?

 

[Westender]

Remember when that was one of the WH talking points in the early stages of the pandemic? No reason to panic. COVID will go away when the weather gets warm. It's all under control.

Turns out, they were wrong..........in too many ways to discuss. One of the more demonstrably provable things they were wrong about was the comparison to the flu.

We wiped out the flu this year. Could we do it again?

That's what happens to influenza type viruses when people wear masks and practice social distancing. Unfortunately, COVID is a highly transmissible virus. More so than the regular flu.

The point being the COVID protocols dismissed as ineffective, infringements on freedom, a waste of time by conservatives.........they work. And if we had not implemented them, if we had not locked down the economy for a while, the infection rate and death toll would be far worse than it is.

My whole family including my 80 year old mother caught it, the flu is worse.

 

[Rigby5]

But the point is that if we had not social distanced and worn masks, then covid-19 would have been gone after a month,

Pure fucking nonsense.

Care you link to anyone credible making such a stupid claim?

That is easy.
The whole history of ending epidemics before vaccines was through variolation.
The deliberate infection of those most likely to survive has ALWAYS been the best way to end any epidemic that was not very lethal, like covid-19.

The History of Variolation

The exact origins of variolation (also known as “inoculation”) are not well known. However, it is agreed that the practice started somewhere in Asia, in either China or India. (It is possible that it started in both places at around the same time.) In China, scabs from smallpox pustules would be...

historyofvaccines.blog

 

[krichton]

Guys, let's just forget the last 400 years of medical advancement and just do what Rigby says. I'm sure he knows what he's talking about. Europe didn't have any vaccines during the black plague and that turned out fine!

 

[Lesh]

Rigby is an idiot.

Had we done nothing two million Americans (or more )would have died.

 

[badger2]

Badger agrees with #150.

 

[Colson Potter]

berg80

Remember when that was one of the WH talking points in the early stages of the pandemic? No reason to panic. COVID will go away when the weather gets warm. It's all under control.

Turns out, they were wrong..........in too many ways to discuss. One of the more demonstrably provable things they were wrong about was the comparison to the flu.

We wiped out the flu this year. Could we do it again?

That's what happens to influenza type viruses when people wear masks and practice social distancing. Unfortunately, COVID is a highly transmissible virus. More so than the regular flu.

The point being the COVID protocols dismissed as ineffective, infringements on freedom, a waste of time by conservatives.........they work. And if we had not implemented them, if we had not locked down the economy for a while, the infection rate and death toll would be far worse than it is.

In studies, lockdowns and masks show little to no effect on COVID.
The reason why the flu is so low? The coronavirus numbers include influenza. We haven't wiped out the flu, we just count it differently.
Here's some corroborating evidence: (Is COVID Killing More Americans or Not - Sanctuary Functional Medicine).

 

[Rigby5]

Guys, let's just forget the last 400 years of medical advancement and just do what Rigby says. I'm sure he knows what he's talking about. Europe didn't have any vaccines during the black plague and that turned out fine!

Wrong.
First of all, the only medical advancement was in the last 200 years, when vaccinations were invented.
But vaccinations are just a variation of variolation, which is deliberate infection, so the epidemic ends more quickly.

The Bubonic Plague was not ended by vaccines, but the reason it killed so many is that it was endemic to rodents and transmitted through lice, ticks, and fleas.
So essentially EVERYONE was infected.
And yet the death rate was only about 30%.

Never has any epidemic been ended with vaccine.
That is because it take over 5 years to made a safe vaccine.
For example, the 1948 Polio epidemic was essentially over before the Salk vaccine became available in 1957.

Normally, all epidemics are always only ended by either full quarantine, like Ebola, or by herd immunity if less lethal.

 

[Rigby5]

Rigby is an idiot.

Had we done nothing two million Americans (or more )would have died.

That is a lie.
The 2.4 million death calculation was totally wrong because only the very sick with covid were being tested, so they got the lethality about a factor of 100 too high. The vast majority infected were asymptomatic, but not tested or counted.
That also means far more people already had inherent immunity than they realized, with as many as 50% being inherently immune, like those under 18.
Finally, the difference in death risk between those under 38 and those over 70 is a factor of 400, so by deliberately infecting volunteers under 40, we could have ended this epidemic last March, with only 60,000 deaths total.

 

[Rigby5]

Badger agrees with #150.

Who said we should do nothing.
What we should have done is accelerate herd immunity by deliberate infection of young volunteers.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Remember when that was one of the WH talking points in the early stages of the pandemic? No reason to panic. COVID will go away when the weather gets warm. It's all under control.

Turns out, they were wrong..........in too many ways to discuss. One of the more demonstrably provable things they were wrong about was the comparison to the flu.

We wiped out the flu this year. Could we do it again?

That's what happens to influenza type viruses when people wear masks and practice social distancing. Unfortunately, COVID is a highly transmissible virus. More so than the regular flu.

The point being the COVID protocols dismissed as ineffective, infringements on freedom, a waste of time by conservatives.........they work. And if we had not implemented them, if we had not locked down the economy for a while, the infection rate and death toll would be far worse than it is.

My whole family including my 80 year old mother caught it, the flu is worse.

This is a "it's not raining here, so it's not raining anywhere" argument.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Rigby is an idiot.

Had we done nothing two million Americans (or more )would have died.

That is a lie.
The 2.4 million death calculation was totally wrong because only the very sick with covid were being tested, so they got the lethality about a factor of 100 too high. The vast majority infected were asymptomatic, but not tested or counted.
That also means far more people already had inherent immunity than they realized, with as many as 50% being inherently immune, like those under 18.
Finally, the difference in death risk between those under 38 and those over 70 is a factor of 400, so by deliberately infecting volunteers under 40, we could have ended this epidemic last March, with only 60,000 deaths total.

Not really.

Someone who is asymptomatic may not be immune. Someone who's had the coronavirus may not be immune. We know of people who've had it at least twice.

The vaccine doesn't make someone immune either.

Someone who is asymptomatic can spread the virus. This is something quite scary, because if you end up with a virus that can do massive damage and loads of people are asymptomatic now, but maybe not in the future.....

 

[Gracie]

They are already gearing up for round two of lockdowns. Covid Variant now.

 

[Lesh]

Rigby is an idiot.

Had we done nothing two million Americans (or more )would have died.

That is a lie.
The 2.4 million death calculation was totally wrong because only the very sick with covid were being tested, so they got the lethality about a factor of 100 too high. The vast majority infected were asymptomatic, but not tested or counted.
That also means far more people already had inherent immunity than they realized, with as many as 50% being inherently immune, like those under 18.
Finally, the difference in death risk between those under 38 and those over 70 is a factor of 400, so by deliberately infecting volunteers under 40, we could have ended this epidemic last March, with only 60,000 deaths total.

Utter and complete horseshit

 

[Rigby5]

Remember when that was one of the WH talking points in the early stages of the pandemic? No reason to panic. COVID will go away when the weather gets warm. It's all under control.

Turns out, they were wrong..........in too many ways to discuss. One of the more demonstrably provable things they were wrong about was the comparison to the flu.

We wiped out the flu this year. Could we do it again?

That's what happens to influenza type viruses when people wear masks and practice social distancing. Unfortunately, COVID is a highly transmissible virus. More so than the regular flu.

The point being the COVID protocols dismissed as ineffective, infringements on freedom, a waste of time by conservatives.........they work. And if we had not implemented them, if we had not locked down the economy for a while, the infection rate and death toll would be far worse than it is.

My whole family including my 80 year old mother caught it, the flu is worse.

This is a "it's not raining here, so it's not raining anywhere" argument.

No, its not.
That is because we know what has caused all the deaths, and not a one was actually caused by the virus.
Each and every death was caused by caused by an over reaction by the immune system, the cytokine storm.
And that is easily treated or prevented.
So every death was avoidable.

Its like you check every place where the ground is wet, and you find a blimp leaking water.
So then you know it is not rain.