Could fascism have arisen in the USA?

[rupol2000]

Hitler came to power only in 1933, besides, his party was not fascist, but National Socialist. There are doubts that he was a fascist, because he overthrew the fascist regime in Austria.

In Italy, Mussolini's fascist movement took shape in 1923.

Meanwhile, in the United States in 1920th, such postcards were issued

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This suggests that fascism originated in the United States.

 

[lg325]

No, it can't take power. The only way it could be if the Constitution is radically changed. This doesn't mean they cannot get elected to local and federal office but not total control of the government. The population would not allow it given the history and philosophy of Naziism. '' The best defense against tyranny is a well-educated population.'' Did Naziism arise in the U.S.A. No, that type of thinking was around long before the U.S.A. came about.

 

[TNHarley]

The swastika was used as a symbol of good luck until the NAZIs came along.
What a dumb thread.

 

[Donald H]

Hitler came to power only in 1933, besides, his party was not fascist, but National Socialist. There are doubts that he was a fascist, because he overthrew the fascist regime in Austria.

In Italy, Mussolini's fascist movement took shape in 1923.

Meanwhile, in the United States in 1920th, such postcards were issued

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This suggests that fascism originated in the United States.

That's rather silly. There was a large fascist element in America right up until the US entered the war in 1941, but it diminished and was eliminated due to the war effort against fascism.

The only similarity to the 19320's was the reasons why Americans turned to fascism then and now.

Americans seem quite confident that Trump's brand of fascism will deliver, in the same way Hitler promised to deliver. And almost did, if Germany had the military strength to succeed.

America has the military strength and only has to face and overcome the MAD factor.

 

[Muhammed]

Hitler came to power only in 1933, besides, his party was not fascist, but National Socialist. There are doubts that he was a fascist, because he overthrew the fascist regime in Austria.

In Italy, Mussolini's fascist movement took shape in 1923.

Meanwhile, in the United States in 1920th, such postcards were issued

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Even 1908


This suggests that fascism originated in the United States.

The U.S. Democratic party ideology was exported to Europe.

And actually, a Democrat from the University of Arkansas, was one of the Nazi jurists who constructed the Nuremberg blood and soil laws that led to the holocaust.

As a legal precedent, they cited racist Democrat policies in the USA.

However, the Nazis in Germany concluded that the Democrats were just too fucking racist, so they didn't adopt the Democrats' "one drop rule".

That's right folks, even the hardcore racist Nazis were disturbed by the racist policies of the Democrats. Sure, Nazis were racist, but not nearly as racist as Democrats.

Democrats are literally an order of magnitude more racist than Nazis.

 

[Donald H]

The U.S. Democratic party ideology was exported to Europe.

i get the childish temptation to turn to domestic politics, but you're saying nothing without providing some valid point.

 

[Muhammed]

i get the childish temptation to turn to domestic politics, but you're saying nothing without providing some valid point.

Your abject ignorance of history is noted.

 

[Failzero]

In Portland & Seattle & Baltimore & Chicago & New York & Los Angeles ...

 

[rupol2000]

No, it can't take power. The only way it could be if the Constitution is radically changed. This doesn't mean they cannot get elected to local and federal office but not total control of the government. The population would not allow it given the history and philosophy of Naziism. '' The best defense against tyranny is a well-educated population.'' Did Naziism arise in the U.S.A. No, that type of thinking was around long before the U.S.A. came about.

What exactly were the changes in the constitution?

 

[AMart]

i get the childish temptation to turn to domestic politics, but you're saying nothing without providing some valid point.

The Nazis copied Jim Crow laws, and the leftist progressive Eugenics movement from Americans.

 

[rupol2000]

The U.S. Democratic party ideology was exported to Europe.

And actually, a Democrat from the University of Arkansas, was one of the Nazi jurists who constructed the Nuremberg blood and soil laws that led to the holocaust.

As a legal precedent, they cited racist Democrat policies in the USA.

However, the Nazis in Germany concluded that the Democrats were just too fucking racist, so they didn't adopt the Democrats' "one drop rule".

That's right folks, even the hardcore racist Nazis were disturbed by the racist policies of the Democrats. Sure, Nazis were racist, but not nearly as racist as Democrats.

Democrats are literally an order of magnitude more racist than Nazis.

At the time, Republicans were dominant. From the turn of the century until F Roosevelt, everyone except Wilson was a Republican.

But in general, fascism is not Nazism, it is a separate trend

 

[rupol2000]

The swastika was used as a symbol of good luck until the NAZIs came along.

In the USA only?

 

[TNHarley]

In the USA only?

No. That symbol is thousands of years old.

 

[rupol2000]

The Nazis copied Jim Crow laws, and the leftist progressive Eugenics movement from Americans.

Firstly, fascism and National Socialism are different things, secondly, in Germany there were only laws against the Jews. At the Olympics in Berlin, there was no segregation of blacks; in the third, Crow laws existed in the United States after the war.

 

[rupol2000]

No. That symbol is thousands of years old.

There was a symbol, but where did you get the idea that it was printed on postcards everywhere as a "symbol of happiness"?

 

[AMart]

That's rather silly. There was a large fascist element in America right up until the US entered the war in 1941, but it diminished and was eliminated due to the war effort against fascism.

The only similarity to the 19320's was the reasons why Americans turned to fascism then and now.

Americans seem quite confident that Trump's brand of fascism will deliver, in the same way Hitler promised to deliver. And almost did, if Germany had the military strength to succeed.

America has the military strength and only has to face and overcome the MAD factor.

USA became much more fascist after WWll. Prior to that regional cultures, religions, ethnic racial issues, dialects were much more pronounced. After WWll with more people going to universities, creating the interstate highway system, creating the suburb, large corporations having operations all over the USA, people becoming more transitional and moving out of ethnic enclaves created a much more proud American flag flying large country. And a major nod to public schools that spit out patriotic Americans.

Even with the counter culture marxists of the 60's all of their garbage was over there somewhere. Now all of your great great grandparents were evil colonizer racists, same for your grandparents, your parents, you, your kids etc.

Now even being patriotic is racist despite tens of millions of non whites flocking to the USA and those people have by far experienced the least amount of any sort of institutional discrimination of any immigrant groups. Much less than various "white" immigrant groups.

It's now a marriage of Cultural Marxism, Global Corporations/Banks, CIA/Military Industrial Complex regime change. A singular global power structure that doesn't want those pesky citizens that cling to their guns, bibles and constitution.

 

[TNHarley]

There was a symbol, but where did you get the idea that it was printed on postcards everywhere as a "symbol of happiness"?

it meant happiness. Good luck.
Look at your own link and see what it says on it "good luck"
Are you being obtuse on purpose?

 

[rupol2000]

In Portland & Seattle & Baltimore & Chicago & New York & Los Angeles ...

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[rupol2000]

it meant happiness. Good luck.
Look at your own link and see what it says on it "good luck"
Are you being obtuse on purpose?

I haven't seen this elsewhere.

 

[TNHarley]

I haven't seen this elsewhere.