Could A Republican Gain In `10, Help Obama in `12?

[Ava]

According to my very main man, Charles Krauthammer, it well could.



Snip:

"Obama’s transformational agenda is a play in two acts.

"Act One is over. The stimulus, Obamacare, financial reform have exhausted his first-term mandate. It will bear no more heavy lifting. And the Democrats will pay the price for ideological overreaching by losing one or both houses, whether de facto or de jure. The rest of the first term will be spent consolidating these gains (writing the regulations, for example) and preparing for Act Two.

"For Obama to fulfill the remainder of his agenda, he’ll need to win a second term. And here’s the kicker. As Krauthammer sees it, letting the Republicans win control of either or both houses this November might actually benefit Obama (and Democrats) in the following 2012 election.

"If Democrats lose control of one or both houses, Obama will probably have an easier time in 2012, just as Bill Clinton used Newt Gingrich and the Republicans as the foil for his 1996 reelection campaign."

Charles Krauthammer | Obama | November - Sarah Palin | Mediaite

 

[topspin]

If republicans rachet up the racism it will help Obama. Dems lose seats as usual in midterms an improving economy might keep it from being a total collapse.

 

[mudwhistle]

According to my very main man, Charles Krauthammer, it well could.



Snip:

"Obama’s transformational agenda is a play in two acts.

"Act One is over. The stimulus, Obamacare, financial reform have exhausted his first-term mandate. It will bear no more heavy lifting. And the Democrats will pay the price for ideological overreaching by losing one or both houses, whether de facto or de jure. The rest of the first term will be spent consolidating these gains (writing the regulations, for example) and preparing for Act Two.

"For Obama to fulfill the remainder of his agenda, he’ll need to win a second term. And here’s the kicker. As Krauthammer sees it, letting the Republicans win control of either or both houses this November might actually benefit Obama (and Democrats) in the following 2012 election.

"If Democrats lose control of one or both houses, Obama will probably have an easier time in 2012, just as Bill Clinton used Newt Gingrich and the Republicans as the foil for his 1996 reelection campaign."

Charles Krauthammer | Obama | November - Sarah Palin | Mediaite

Just like any despotic leader Obama needs a scapegoat.

Bush is losing significance. It's just beginning to look like a crybaby excuse.

But if the Republicans win then Obama has somebody else to blame everything on.

The GOP will send him meaningful legislation and he'll veto it or maybe even sign some of it just to appear non-partisan....but nothing that will do any real good. And if they don't send him anything to sign he'll accuse them of being a do-nothing Congress that wants the economy to get worse....because they're unwilling to work with a black man.

You see the truth isn't a barrier to a liar like Obama. He'll twist the debate any way he wants. The Repugs will look like idiots for trying to solve problems and Obama will be the major roadblock to it.....yet he will never take the blame for anything if things get worse.

 

[elvis]

Obama will win in 2012 no matter what. The only question would be can obama blame the new congress (assuming its new) for his failures to gain those seats back.

 

[Modbert]

Republicans in Congress worst nightmare is taking back the House and Senate. Then they would actually have to stop talking and get shit done. And what happens when none of their ideas work? Obama can easily just point and say he was right all along. And he would be.

 

[Ava]

According to my very main man, Charles Krauthammer, it well could.



Snip:

"Obama’s transformational agenda is a play in two acts.

"Act One is over. The stimulus, Obamacare, financial reform have exhausted his first-term mandate. It will bear no more heavy lifting. And the Democrats will pay the price for ideological overreaching by losing one or both houses, whether de facto or de jure. The rest of the first term will be spent consolidating these gains (writing the regulations, for example) and preparing for Act Two.

"For Obama to fulfill the remainder of his agenda, he’ll need to win a second term. And here’s the kicker. As Krauthammer sees it, letting the Republicans win control of either or both houses this November might actually benefit Obama (and Democrats) in the following 2012 election.

"If Democrats lose control of one or both houses, Obama will probably have an easier time in 2012, just as Bill Clinton used Newt Gingrich and the Republicans as the foil for his 1996 reelection campaign."

Charles Krauthammer | Obama | November - Sarah Palin | Mediaite

Just like any despotic leader Obama needs a scapegoat.

Bush is losing significance. It's just beginning to look like a crybaby excuse.

But if the Republicans win then Obama has somebody else to blame everything on.

The GOP will send him meaningful legislation and he'll veto it or maybe even sign some of it just to appear non-partisan....but nothing that will do any real good. And if they don't send him anything to sign he'll accuse them of being a do-nothing Congress that wants the economy to get worse....because they're unwilling to work with a black man.

You see the truth isn't a barrier to a liar like Obama. He'll twist the debate any way he wants. The Repugs will look like idiots for trying to solve problems and Obama will be the major roadblock to it.....yet he will never take the blame for anything if things get worse.

True, Obama and his administration have no boundaries. They are corrupt and will stop at nothing for power and control. As Obama said in an April video: "It will be up to each of you to make sure that the young people, African Americans, Latinos, and women, who powered our victory in 2008 stand together once again."

We'll see. I plan to step back from politics somewhat. It has been too consuming for too long, and no gain in sight for the liberties America holds so dear. We are outnumbered, I am afraid...

 

[Modbert]

True, Obama and his administration have no boundaries. They are corrupt and will stop at nothing for power and control. As Obama said in an April video: "It will be up to each of you to make sure that the young people, African Americans, Latinos, and women, who powered our victory in 2008 stand together once again."

We'll see. I plan to step back from politics somewhat. It has been too consuming for too long, and no gain in sight for the liberties America holds so dear. We are outnumbered, I am afraid...

He's right. Those are all the demographics he won. It wasn't white men who helped him win in 2008.

 

[elvis]

Republicans in Congress worst nightmare is taking back the House and Senate. Then they would actually have to stop talking and get shit done. And what happens when none of their ideas work? Obama can easily just point and say he was right all along. And he would be.

do you think the ossiah would approve of any ideas they came up with? and if not, how would it then be their fault nothing got done when the ossiah vetoed their ideas?

 

[MaggieMae]

I'm still thinking that in the back of Obama's mind, he won't even run again in 2012. He will have passed two major policies, health care reform and financial reform, which are both pretty unpopular by about half the country, for now. But like Lyndon Johnson's two major achievements, Medicare and Civil Rights, those are two programs that although also unpopular at the outset are now programs that we can't do without and no one wants to change much except minor tweeks.

Rather than risking LOSING the election and becoming another Carter-type legend, always on the defense forever, it would be much preferable to become an LBJ-type legend. After all, I think Obama has figured out by now that "compromising" isn't something he can ever achieve, so let the Republicans have a chance at fucking things up in their own immutable manner OR by not running, it would open the door wide for Biden and/or Hillary.

 

[rightwinger]

A Republican controlled Congress would be a nightmare

I give them three months before they start impeachment proceedings on some trumped up nonsesne

What is Ken Starr up to these days?

 

[mudwhistle]

True, Obama and his administration have no boundaries. They are corrupt and will stop at nothing for power and control. As Obama said in an April video: "It will be up to each of you to make sure that the young people, African Americans, Latinos, and women, who powered our victory in 2008 stand together once again."

We'll see. I plan to step back from politics somewhat. It has been too consuming for too long, and no gain in sight for the liberties America holds so dear. We are outnumbered, I am afraid...

He's right. Those are all the demographics he won. It wasn't white men who helped him win in 2008.

No...white 20-29 year olds....housewives....independents....most of which have lost trust in him.

Heck....if they had believed for second he was a closet racist he would have been toast.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Republicans are very stupid.

First Mike Steel is still head of the RNC so Republican gains will be minimal to start.

Next, if they win they better focus on how Dems have totally fucked the economy. Hold hearing on the Stimulus funds, on the takeover of auto industry, on Fannie and Freddie, remind people about the ongoing disaster that is Democrat control

Are you better off now then when Pelosi and Obama took over?

 

[mudwhistle]

A Republican controlled Congress would be a nightmare

I give them three months before they start impeachment proceedings on some trumped up nonsesne

What is Ken Starr up to these days?

I'm sure if they did the howls of RACISM will be heard across the land.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Are you better off now then when Pelosi and Obama took over?

Actually, I am better off in the Obama administration than I was during the Bush administration, but it has little to do with Bush or Obama and more to do with my own life choices.

Since 2008, I have furthered my education (I will have completed my MBA by the end of this year) and have done so as a single parent. I work for a responsible financial institution that did not get caught up in the whole subprime mortgage scam so my company wasn't subjected to the mass layoffs that other banks were. In fact, I have gotten several good raises over the past two years including another I just got this past week.

A bad economy definitely hurts people, but a lot of it too has to do with the choices you make. It's times like these that test one's mettle. Those who do will do and those don't, won't.

 

[Modbert]

do you think the ossiah would approve of any ideas they came up with? and if not, how would it then be their fault nothing got done when the ossiah vetoed their ideas?

Some, probably. However, the bigger question is what is the GOP's agenda in the first place? The only one who's bothered to give any concrete answers is Michelle Bachmann and her plan is impeachments and hearings. You probably have noticed the GOP has avoided giving specifics, one of them even admitted if they did so it would become a campaign issue.

 

[Charles_Main]

According to my very main man, Charles Krauthammer, it well could.



Snip:

"Obama’s transformational agenda is a play in two acts.

"Act One is over. The stimulus, Obamacare, financial reform have exhausted his first-term mandate. It will bear no more heavy lifting. And the Democrats will pay the price for ideological overreaching by losing one or both houses, whether de facto or de jure. The rest of the first term will be spent consolidating these gains (writing the regulations, for example) and preparing for Act Two.

"For Obama to fulfill the remainder of his agenda, he’ll need to win a second term. And here’s the kicker. As Krauthammer sees it, letting the Republicans win control of either or both houses this November might actually benefit Obama (and Democrats) in the following 2012 election.

"If Democrats lose control of one or both houses, Obama will probably have an easier time in 2012, just as Bill Clinton used Newt Gingrich and the Republicans as the foil for his 1996 reelection campaign."

Charles Krauthammer | Obama | November - Sarah Palin | Mediaite

In short yes. If the Republicans win both Houses, and then proceed to do nothing, or do things like they did Under Bush. It could indeed help Obama. I am not one of those that thinks the Republicans can and will win just because Obama is bad. They need a message and an agenda and they need to get things done if and when elected. Or the pendulum will swing right back again.

 

[Charles_Main]

If republicans rachet up the racism it will help Obama. Dems lose seats as usual in midterms an improving economy might keep it from being a total collapse.

Hmm yet Obama's own Projections say unemployment will remain above 9% well into 2012.

Oh and regardless of if the Republicans "ratchet up the Racism" you can be assured the DEMS will claim they are, and that can Back fire as well. The American people are in no Mood for a BS smear campaign by desperate Democrats.

 

[Pepe]

As I have often stated, two years is forever in Imperial Politics.

There are outside forces that could perpetrate an event that would change the course of an election campaign in a micro second.

Then there are the old standbys, sex, corruption, felonious conduct, ad infintium.

All politicians who are members of our two Socialist Parties think only in two year cycles.....election and reelection.

Neither Party is apt to remotely consider the well being of the Empire before the Party's desires.

No Polyticker will place the Empire before his/her own selfish interests.

No.....we will continue down the road to eventual domestic implosion to be followed by the inevitable "balkanization."

The "Perfect Storm" is approaching and the "Sheeple" have only seen the beginnings of "pain."

The worst is yet to come.

 

[mudwhistle]

do you think the ossiah would approve of any ideas they came up with? and if not, how would it then be their fault nothing got done when the ossiah vetoed their ideas?

Some, probably. However, the bigger question is what is the GOP's agenda in the first place? The only one who's bothered to give any concrete answers is Michelle Bachmann and her plan is impeachments and hearings. You probably have noticed the GOP has avoided giving specifics, one of them even admitted if they did so it would become a campaign issue.

If they give specifics the MSM gets busy tearing it down. The Democrats have a target to attack....all the while they're fucking things up themselves.

Nope....they don't need that right now because honesty and truth no longer matter.

 

[Flopper]

According to my very main man, Charles Krauthammer, it well could.



Snip:

"Obama’s transformational agenda is a play in two acts.

"Act One is over. The stimulus, Obamacare, financial reform have exhausted his first-term mandate. It will bear no more heavy lifting. And the Democrats will pay the price for ideological overreaching by losing one or both houses, whether de facto or de jure. The rest of the first term will be spent consolidating these gains (writing the regulations, for example) and preparing for Act Two.

"For Obama to fulfill the remainder of his agenda, he’ll need to win a second term. And here’s the kicker. As Krauthammer sees it, letting the Republicans win control of either or both houses this November might actually benefit Obama (and Democrats) in the following 2012 election.

"If Democrats lose control of one or both houses, Obama will probably have an easier time in 2012, just as Bill Clinton used Newt Gingrich and the Republicans as the foil for his 1996 reelection campaign."

Charles Krauthammer | Obama | November - Sarah Palin | Mediaite

Any thing is possible, however I don't think this is the strategy. Too many things can change in two years. Look at the last election. Both candidates had there agenda planned. Then we had the financial crisis and the collapse of the stock market which changed everything.