Coronavirus Becomes Leading Cause of Death in U.S.

[U2Edge]

Look at New Zealand, only one death from Coronavirus. Why can't the United States protect its people as well as New Zealand has protected its people?

Because there's 35 people in New Zealand...

There are actually nearly 5 million people in New Zealand. Yet, only one death from coronavirus.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Coronavirus Becomes Leading Cause of Death in U.S.

COVID-19, the illness caused by the novel coronavirus, is now the deadliest disease in the United States, killing more people per day than cancer or heart disease.

According to a graph published Tuesday by Dr. Maria Danilychev, who practices in San Diego, COVID-19 is the cause of 1,970 deaths in the U.S. per day.

The graph uses data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) for the daily average causes of death and compares them to COVID-19 statistics from Worldometers.info.

Coronavirus Becomes Leading Cause of Death in U.S.

DEATHS FROM CORONAVIRUS:

UNITED STATES: 16,074

JAPAN: 94

SOUTH KOREA: 204

AUSTRALIA: 51

SINGAPORE: 6

TAIWAN: 5

NEW ZEALAND: 1

You can see from the death totals for the different first world countries above how Donald Trump has FAILED to protect the American people from this Pathogen! It the United States were doing as well as New Zealand in protecting the public from this Pathogen, the United States would have less than 100 deaths, not over 16,000!

Yeah, the MSM loves it when ignorant folks swallow this kind of information. I mean, why talk about population and percentages and even mentioning Europe? Those pesky numbers ruin the narrative and we wouldn't want to do that.

This just proves what useful idiots Democrats are.

I've been a Republican all my life, but have been against Trump since he declared he was running in 2015.

Population percentages, yep, its true that New Zealand is a smaller country than the United States, but even when you adjust for population size, if the United States were doing as well as New Zealand, we should have less than 100 deaths, NOT 16,000.

Saying your doing better than the worst infected country in the world is not the standard the United States of America should be setting for itself. We should be the best or near the top in everything we do, especially protecting the American population. The standard we should be following is not Italy and Spain, its New Zealand, Taiwan and Japan!

Wait until our testing catches up. then we will have the lowest death rate in the world. Any assumptions now are made without adequate data.

This is not about the death rate, this is about how deep the virus has penetrated the country's population and how many people have died in the country relative to other countries. The gold standard is New Zealand! That's where the United States should be.

We still do not have the data necessary for ANY claim. Your simply making shit up.

New Zealand has only one confirmed death from coronavirus. The United States has over 16,000 confirmed deaths from coronavirus and its now rising by nearly 2,000 a day.

2,000 people will die tomorrow from coronavirus in the United States, but no one will die from coronavirus tomorrow in New Zealand. See the difference? If Trump had succeeded U.S. citizens would have the same level of protection that New Zealand has provided for its citizens.

LOL

Your an idiot... Tell me again what the deaths per 1,000 rate is again... Now show me the travel influxes like NY deals with daily... You do not have the data to make any claim. your making wild ass guesses and they are based on bull shit, made up numbers.

 

[SweetTea]

Canada is getting crushed too. We lost massive jobs and Ontario lost over 40% of all jobs alone, even as the Premier tries to assure us our horse and buggy economy will recover.

We were already in dire straits before this virus, and they has made it so that people who apply for help must have made a MINIMUM in earnings, whereas the U.S uses a MAXIMUM ($99k). This means we have about 3-4x more people in desperate need in Canada with no option, they will just lose their homes, be evicted, not find work.

In an already destroyed economy this is horrible. Our leaders have told us to expect this to be the norm for at least a year! Meaning, we will have full blown communism in place while you are going back to work and crushing the global economies again.

Trump deserves some credit. If you want to place blame on a virus that came from Communist China, blame the Governor or Mayor of NY. If you don't think they are to blame, how is Trump?

Look at New Zealand, only one death from Coronavirus. Why can't the United States protect its people as well as New Zealand has protected its people?

Maybe because the United States is not a small island nation in the South West Pacific ocean that is isolated from most other nation. New Zealand also does not have a densely populated international hub like NY city. Believe it or not, there are some benefits in being in the middle of nowhere.

New Zealand's North Island where most of the population lives is just as densely populated as the United States.

The Virus started in Wuhan China. To get to New Zealand or the United States, the virus has to first travel by boat or plane. New Zealand is closer to Wuhan China than the United States. The United States has a land border with only two countries, Canada and Mexico. Most people who travel to the United States come in by air travel, the same way most people travel to New Zealand.

No, it's not you moron. Auckland/Manukau City has a population of 1.4 million or so. The next biggest city on the North Island is Wellington with a population of 350,000. In between is a lot of empty space. Most towns are 1500 or less. The top twenty cities comprise 90% of New Zealands population.

He has idea how ignorant he is, he thinks New Zealand and America are very comparable as nations.

That is stupid!

Make the proper adjustment for the different size in populations, and you can make an accurate comparison between any two countries and rate them on how well they have protected their people from this PATHOGEN!

So then we should be able to do the same between NYC and Wyoming, correct? I mean, the relative density of the population has nothing to do with it, right?

 

[Doc7505]

Canada is getting crushed too. We lost massive jobs and Ontario lost over 40% of all jobs alone, even as the Premier tries to assure us our horse and buggy economy will recover.

We were already in dire straits before this virus, and they has made it so that people who apply for help must have made a MINIMUM in earnings, whereas the U.S uses a MAXIMUM ($99k). This means we have about 3-4x more people in desperate need in Canada with no option, they will just lose their homes, be evicted, not find work.

In an already destroyed economy this is horrible. Our leaders have told us to expect this to be the norm for at least a year! Meaning, we will have full blown communism in place while you are going back to work and crushing the global economies again.

Trump deserves some credit. If you want to place blame on a virus that came from Communist China, blame the Governor or Mayor of NY. If you don't think they are to blame, how is Trump?

Look at New Zealand, only one death from Coronavirus. Why can't the United States protect its people as well as New Zealand has protected its people?

Maybe because the United States is not a small island nation in the South West Pacific ocean that is isolated from most other nation. New Zealand also does not have a densely populated international hub like NY city. Believe it or not, there are some benefits in being in the middle of nowhere.

New Zealand's North Island where most of the population lives is just as densely populated as the United States.

The Virus started in Wuhan China. To get to New Zealand or the United States, the virus has to first travel by boat or plane. New Zealand is closer to Wuhan China than the United States. The United States has a land border with only two countries, Canada and Mexico. Most people who travel to the United States come in by air travel, the same way most people travel to New Zealand.

No, it's not you moron. Auckland/Manukau City has a population of 1.4 million or so. The next biggest city on the North Island is Wellington with a population of 350,000. In between is a lot of empty space. Most towns are 1500 or less. The top twenty cities comprise 90% of New Zealands population.

The population density of North Island New Zealand is 85 people per square mile. The population density of the United States as a whole is 87 people per square mile. So yes, North Island is similar to the United States in population density. Yet, they only have one death from coronavirus while the United States has over 16,000.

Yet the number of infections presumably due to Wuhan Covid-19 have centered in and around the most densely populated cities such as NY, LA, SF, Chi, Denver, NOLA, etc...

 

[U2Edge]

More leftist lies and bullshit addressed here:

The Flu, the Coronavirus, and Hospital Beds

By James L. Swofford
April 9, 2020

EXCERPT:

Did you hear about the 2017-2018 U.S. flu season? How about the 2017-18 flu season overwhelming the hospitals and creating bed and ICU bed shortages?

Neither did I, but it was the worst flu season in recent years.

During the 2017-2018 flu season the CDC’s preliminary estimate is that 810,000 patients were hospitalized. It is still a preliminary estimate, so that the upper range of uncertainty is 1.4 million hospitalizations due to the flu during the 2017-2018 season. That flu season also had the highest peak hospitalizations in recent years.

That hospitalization peak was the highest in recent years ran from the last week of December through the third or fourth week of January. Based on numbers from graphs at Advisory.com, one can estimate that in the last week of December 2017, 29,430 people were hospitalized due to the flu. The first week of January the estimated number of people hospitalized peaked at 33,354. The next week, the second week of January, the number tapered off a bit to 32,046 hospitalizations. The final week of the four-week peak saw 29,193 hospitalizations due to the flu. In total during the four-week peak of the 2017-2018 flu season, 123,093 people were hospitalized for flu. If you want to add the fourth week of January, when it was estimated that 27,795 patients were hospitalized with the flu, the U.S. hospital system handled 151,728 patients during a five-week period.

LINK

Irelevant since were talking about the leading cause of death on a daily basis NOW for a pathogen that has no vaccine. This is not comparable to the flu and only the ignorant would insist that it was.

Correct. The Flu is far more deadly you lying sack of shit.

There was never a vaccine for the swine flu, nor for most flues that exist in the world...., yet they don't come back and wipe you out, because the "Herd Immunity" kicks in.

He is so bereft in rational thinking that I am going to get off now.

Going for Herd immunity by just letting the virus spread would have killed 2.4 million Americans by August 1, 2020. Not even Trump is that stupid which is why the most of the country is on lockdown at least through April 30th.

 

[The VOR]

Relax, it's all a hoax.

The Democrat's ploy to bring down the economy and Trump is a hoax. The virus is just another vehicle being used by the Democrats to accomplish this goal. It is a follow up to the impeachment hoax. If this gets under control and the economy starts to recover, they will be looking for anything else. Democrats are a sad, pathetic bunch for sure.

And you are nothing more than a pathetic, partisan hack.

 

[U2Edge]

Canada is getting crushed too. We lost massive jobs and Ontario lost over 40% of all jobs alone, even as the Premier tries to assure us our horse and buggy economy will recover.

We were already in dire straits before this virus, and they has made it so that people who apply for help must have made a MINIMUM in earnings, whereas the U.S uses a MAXIMUM ($99k). This means we have about 3-4x more people in desperate need in Canada with no option, they will just lose their homes, be evicted, not find work.

In an already destroyed economy this is horrible. Our leaders have told us to expect this to be the norm for at least a year! Meaning, we will have full blown communism in place while you are going back to work and crushing the global economies again.

Trump deserves some credit. If you want to place blame on a virus that came from Communist China, blame the Governor or Mayor of NY. If you don't think they are to blame, how is Trump?

Look at New Zealand, only one death from Coronavirus. Why can't the United States protect its people as well as New Zealand has protected its people?

Maybe because the United States is not a small island nation in the South West Pacific ocean that is isolated from most other nation. New Zealand also does not have a densely populated international hub like NY city. Believe it or not, there are some benefits in being in the middle of nowhere.

New Zealand's North Island where most of the population lives is just as densely populated as the United States.

The Virus started in Wuhan China. To get to New Zealand or the United States, the virus has to first travel by boat or plane. New Zealand is closer to Wuhan China than the United States. The United States has a land border with only two countries, Canada and Mexico. Most people who travel to the United States come in by air travel, the same way most people travel to New Zealand.

No, it's not you moron. Auckland/Manukau City has a population of 1.4 million or so. The next biggest city on the North Island is Wellington with a population of 350,000. In between is a lot of empty space. Most towns are 1500 or less. The top twenty cities comprise 90% of New Zealands population.

He has idea how ignorant he is, he thinks New Zealand and America are very comparable as nations.

That is stupid!

Make the proper adjustment for the different size in populations, and you can make an accurate comparison between any two countries and rate them on how well they have protected their people from this PATHOGEN!

So then we should be able to do the same between NYC and Wyoming, correct? I mean, the relative density of the population has nothing to do with it, right?

Tokyo Japan is more densely populated than New York City or New York State. Yet, Japan only has 93 deaths while New York State has over 4,000.

 

[SweetTea]

Relax, it's all a hoax.

The Democrat's ploy to bring down the economy and Trump is a hoax. The virus is just another vehicle being used by the Democrats to accomplish this goal. It is a follow up to the impeachment hoax. If this gets under control and the economy starts to recover, they will be looking for anything else. Democrats are a sad, pathetic bunch for sure.

And you are nothing more than a pathetic, partisan hack.

No, I am smart and can think for myself. That is what separates me from most Democrats.

 

[Dreadnaught1968]

There are actually nearly 5 million people in New Zealand. Yet, only one death from coronavirus.

So how many countries have a shared border with New Zealand?

 

[U2Edge]

Canada is getting crushed too. We lost massive jobs and Ontario lost over 40% of all jobs alone, even as the Premier tries to assure us our horse and buggy economy will recover.

We were already in dire straits before this virus, and they has made it so that people who apply for help must have made a MINIMUM in earnings, whereas the U.S uses a MAXIMUM ($99k). This means we have about 3-4x more people in desperate need in Canada with no option, they will just lose their homes, be evicted, not find work.

In an already destroyed economy this is horrible. Our leaders have told us to expect this to be the norm for at least a year! Meaning, we will have full blown communism in place while you are going back to work and crushing the global economies again.

Trump deserves some credit. If you want to place blame on a virus that came from Communist China, blame the Governor or Mayor of NY. If you don't think they are to blame, how is Trump?

Look at New Zealand, only one death from Coronavirus. Why can't the United States protect its people as well as New Zealand has protected its people?

Maybe because the United States is not a small island nation in the South West Pacific ocean that is isolated from most other nation. New Zealand also does not have a densely populated international hub like NY city. Believe it or not, there are some benefits in being in the middle of nowhere.

New Zealand's North Island where most of the population lives is just as densely populated as the United States.

The Virus started in Wuhan China. To get to New Zealand or the United States, the virus has to first travel by boat or plane. New Zealand is closer to Wuhan China than the United States. The United States has a land border with only two countries, Canada and Mexico. Most people who travel to the United States come in by air travel, the same way most people travel to New Zealand.

No, it's not you moron. Auckland/Manukau City has a population of 1.4 million or so. The next biggest city on the North Island is Wellington with a population of 350,000. In between is a lot of empty space. Most towns are 1500 or less. The top twenty cities comprise 90% of New Zealands population.

The population density of North Island New Zealand is 85 people per square mile. The population density of the United States as a whole is 87 people per square mile. So yes, North Island is similar to the United States in population density. Yet, they only have one death from coronavirus while the United States has over 16,000.

Yet the number of infections presumably due to Wuhan Covid-19 have centered in and around the most densely populated cities such as NY, LA, SF, Chi, Denver, NOLA, etc...

Which is why JANUARY was so critical to stopping this PATHOGEN. Prevent it from getting into the country as much as you can, then you don't have to worry about your more densely populated cities. No doubt there are more infections in Wellington or Christchurch than there are in more rural areas of New Zealand. What was important though was stopping as many infected people from arriving in the country to begin with. Then properly testing infected people and doing follow up contact tracing and isolating any potentially infected people.

 

[U2Edge]

There are actually nearly 5 million people in New Zealand. Yet, only one death from coronavirus.

So how many countries have a shared border with New Zealand?

None, but its irrelevant since most people who travel to the United States do so through Air Travel, the same way people get to New Zealand. The coronavirus arrived in the United States the same way it arrived in New Zealand, through AIR TRAVEL. The land border is irrelevant.

 

[Meathead]

You can see from the death totals for the different first world countries above how Donald Trump has FAILED to protect the American people from this Pathogen! It the United States were doing as well as New Zealand in protecting the public from this Pathogen, the United States would have less than 100 deaths, not over 16,000!

What happened to Italy, Spain, France. Are they no longer the first world? You're a bit of a disingenuous ****, aren't you?

The United States is supposed to be the greatest country in the world. As the greatest country in the world, we should be the best at protecting the citizens of this country from this pathogen. That's why the United States should be at or near countries like New Zealand, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, Australia, and Singapore.

You think Trump deserves a cookie if were doing better than the two countries with the close to worst infection rates in the world like Italy and Spain? Are you kidding me? Whatever happened to KEEP AMERICA GREAT? How is doing better than Italy and Spain keeping American Great? Shouldn't the standard be New Zealand as opposed to Italy?

I'll ask you again, and I'm sure you will keep ducking the question. WHAT ACTIONS AND WHEN WOULD HAVE MADE YOU HAPPY? IMO President Trump did a masterful job weighing the needs of the country, most of which has been unaffected with the virus hot spots.

There are 197 countries on the planet. The United States has the 15th worst infection rate per capita in the world from coronavirus.

Trump should have followed the actions of Taiwan, Japan, New Zealand and other countries that have successfully protected their populations from this pathogen relative to the United States. I've already said that Trump should have shut down all non-essential travel back in January.

Fine so that leaves tens of thousands of essential travelers per day per major city flowing in and out. That leaves New York subways and other major city subways running 7 days a week. Do you REALLY believe banning non-essential travel two months earlier drives our death rates down to Japan levels? That is ridiculous there are so many variables from country to country. Liberals over simplify everything and that is why you always get it wrong.

Japan has much greater population density than the United States, relies on mass public transport more than the United States, and has the average oldest population in the world. Yet, they only have 94 dead from coronavirus. The Key was first shutting down international travel back in January. Again, don't you think the United States should be as capable as Japan or New Zealand in defending its people from a dangerous pathogen coming from China?

Canada is getting crushed too. We lost massive jobs and Ontario lost over 40% of all jobs alone, even as the Premier tries to assure us our horse and buggy economy will recover.

We were already in dire straits before this virus, and they has made it so that people who apply for help must have made a MINIMUM in earnings, whereas the U.S uses a MAXIMUM ($99k). This means we have about 3-4x more people in desperate need in Canada with no option, they will just lose their homes, be evicted, not find work.

In an already destroyed economy this is horrible. Our leaders have told us to expect this to be the norm for at least a year! Meaning, we will have full blown communism in place while you are going back to work and crushing the global economies again.

Trump deserves some credit. If you want to place blame on a virus that came from Communist China, blame the Governor or Mayor of NY. If you don't think they are to blame, how is Trump?

Look at New Zealand, only one death from Coronavirus. Why can't the United States protect its people as well as New Zealand has protected its people?

Maybe because the United States is not a small island nation in the South West Pacific ocean that is isolated from most other nation. New Zealand also does not have a densely populated international hub like NY city. Believe it or not, there are some benefits in being in the middle of nowhere.

Geography is most certainly a huge factor in New Zealand's favor.

Most people get to New Zealand by Air Travel. Most people get to the United States by Air Travel. How does a Pathogen get to the United States or New Zealand from CHINA? AIR TRAVEL! Trump has just as much ability to stop air travel into the United States as the prime minister of New Zealand does in stopping air travel into New Zealand.

All people get to New Zealand by air travel. This is not 1900, there are no Mexicans or coyotes, and you're an idiot.

 

[U2Edge]

Coronavirus Becomes Leading Cause of Death in U.S.

COVID-19, the illness caused by the novel coronavirus, is now the deadliest disease in the United States, killing more people per day than cancer or heart disease.

According to a graph published Tuesday by Dr. Maria Danilychev, who practices in San Diego, COVID-19 is the cause of 1,970 deaths in the U.S. per day.

The graph uses data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) for the daily average causes of death and compares them to COVID-19 statistics from Worldometers.info.

Coronavirus Becomes Leading Cause of Death in U.S.

DEATHS FROM CORONAVIRUS:

UNITED STATES: 16,074

JAPAN: 94

SOUTH KOREA: 204

AUSTRALIA: 51

SINGAPORE: 6

TAIWAN: 5

NEW ZEALAND: 1

You can see from the death totals for the different first world countries above how Donald Trump has FAILED to protect the American people from this Pathogen! It the United States were doing as well as New Zealand in protecting the public from this Pathogen, the United States would have less than 100 deaths, not over 16,000!

Yeah, the MSM loves it when ignorant folks swallow this kind of information. I mean, why talk about population and percentages and even mentioning Europe? Those pesky numbers ruin the narrative and we wouldn't want to do that.

This just proves what useful idiots Democrats are.

I've been a Republican all my life, but have been against Trump since he declared he was running in 2015.

Population percentages, yep, its true that New Zealand is a smaller country than the United States, but even when you adjust for population size, if the United States were doing as well as New Zealand, we should have less than 100 deaths, NOT 16,000.

Saying your doing better than the worst infected country in the world is not the standard the United States of America should be setting for itself. We should be the best or near the top in everything we do, especially protecting the American population. The standard we should be following is not Italy and Spain, its New Zealand, Taiwan and Japan!

Wait until our testing catches up. then we will have the lowest death rate in the world. Any assumptions now are made without adequate data.

This is not about the death rate, this is about how deep the virus has penetrated the country's population and how many people have died in the country relative to other countries. The gold standard is New Zealand! That's where the United States should be.

We still do not have the data necessary for ANY claim. Your simply making shit up.

New Zealand has only one confirmed death from coronavirus. The United States has over 16,000 confirmed deaths from coronavirus and its now rising by nearly 2,000 a day.

2,000 people will die tomorrow from coronavirus in the United States, but no one will die from coronavirus tomorrow in New Zealand. See the difference? If Trump had succeeded U.S. citizens would have the same level of protection that New Zealand has provided for its citizens.

LOL

Your an idiot... Tell me again what the deaths per 1,000 rate is again... Now show me the travel influxes like NY deals with daily... You do not have the data to make any claim. your making wild ass guesses and they are based on bull shit, made up numbers.

It takes less than 24 hours for the President to ground all air travel. We saw that on September 11, 2001. It does not matter how many more airports the United States has, or how many people fly into New York City vs. New Zealand. When you stop all air travel, there are no more flights in and out of either place. The prior volume of traffic before that point is irrelevant.

 

[Dreadnaught1968]

None, but its irrelevant since most people who travel to the United States do so through Air Travel, the same way people get to New Zealand. The coronavirus arrived in the United States the same way it arrived in New Zealand, through AIR TRAVEL. The land border is irrelevant.

Not irrelevant. It shows the ease of access to the US VS New Zealand. I realize you are attempting to compare apples to hand grenades, and you're lousy at it.

 

[U2Edge]

You can see from the death totals for the different first world countries above how Donald Trump has FAILED to protect the American people from this Pathogen! It the United States were doing as well as New Zealand in protecting the public from this Pathogen, the United States would have less than 100 deaths, not over 16,000!

What happened to Italy, Spain, France. Are they no longer the first world? You're a bit of a disingenuous ****, aren't you?

The United States is supposed to be the greatest country in the world. As the greatest country in the world, we should be the best at protecting the citizens of this country from this pathogen. That's why the United States should be at or near countries like New Zealand, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, Australia, and Singapore.

You think Trump deserves a cookie if were doing better than the two countries with the close to worst infection rates in the world like Italy and Spain? Are you kidding me? Whatever happened to KEEP AMERICA GREAT? How is doing better than Italy and Spain keeping American Great? Shouldn't the standard be New Zealand as opposed to Italy?

I'll ask you again, and I'm sure you will keep ducking the question. WHAT ACTIONS AND WHEN WOULD HAVE MADE YOU HAPPY? IMO President Trump did a masterful job weighing the needs of the country, most of which has been unaffected with the virus hot spots.

There are 197 countries on the planet. The United States has the 15th worst infection rate per capita in the world from coronavirus.

Trump should have followed the actions of Taiwan, Japan, New Zealand and other countries that have successfully protected their populations from this pathogen relative to the United States. I've already said that Trump should have shut down all non-essential travel back in January.

Fine so that leaves tens of thousands of essential travelers per day per major city flowing in and out. That leaves New York subways and other major city subways running 7 days a week. Do you REALLY believe banning non-essential travel two months earlier drives our death rates down to Japan levels? That is ridiculous there are so many variables from country to country. Liberals over simplify everything and that is why you always get it wrong.

Japan has much greater population density than the United States, relies on mass public transport more than the United States, and has the average oldest population in the world. Yet, they only have 94 dead from coronavirus. The Key was first shutting down international travel back in January. Again, don't you think the United States should be as capable as Japan or New Zealand in defending its people from a dangerous pathogen coming from China?

Canada is getting crushed too. We lost massive jobs and Ontario lost over 40% of all jobs alone, even as the Premier tries to assure us our horse and buggy economy will recover.

We were already in dire straits before this virus, and they has made it so that people who apply for help must have made a MINIMUM in earnings, whereas the U.S uses a MAXIMUM ($99k). This means we have about 3-4x more people in desperate need in Canada with no option, they will just lose their homes, be evicted, not find work.

In an already destroyed economy this is horrible. Our leaders have told us to expect this to be the norm for at least a year! Meaning, we will have full blown communism in place while you are going back to work and crushing the global economies again.

Trump deserves some credit. If you want to place blame on a virus that came from Communist China, blame the Governor or Mayor of NY. If you don't think they are to blame, how is Trump?

Look at New Zealand, only one death from Coronavirus. Why can't the United States protect its people as well as New Zealand has protected its people?

Maybe because the United States is not a small island nation in the South West Pacific ocean that is isolated from most other nation. New Zealand also does not have a densely populated international hub like NY city. Believe it or not, there are some benefits in being in the middle of nowhere.

Geography is most certainly a huge factor in New Zealand's favor.

Most people get to New Zealand by Air Travel. Most people get to the United States by Air Travel. How does a Pathogen get to the United States or New Zealand from CHINA? AIR TRAVEL! Trump has just as much ability to stop air travel into the United States as the prime minister of New Zealand does in stopping air travel into New Zealand.

All people get to New Zealand by air travel. This is not 1900, there are no Mexicans or coyotes, and you're an idiot.

There are some people who work on large boats transporting goods who arrive at their locations by boat. Mexico did not seed the United States with coronavirus, whether by people walking across the land border or driving across it.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Canada is getting crushed too. We lost massive jobs and Ontario lost over 40% of all jobs alone, even as the Premier tries to assure us our horse and buggy economy will recover.

We were already in dire straits before this virus, and they has made it so that people who apply for help must have made a MINIMUM in earnings, whereas the U.S uses a MAXIMUM ($99k). This means we have about 3-4x more people in desperate need in Canada with no option, they will just lose their homes, be evicted, not find work.

In an already destroyed economy this is horrible. Our leaders have told us to expect this to be the norm for at least a year! Meaning, we will have full blown communism in place while you are going back to work and crushing the global economies again.

Trump deserves some credit. If you want to place blame on a virus that came from Communist China, blame the Governor or Mayor of NY. If you don't think they are to blame, how is Trump?

Look at New Zealand, only one death from Coronavirus. Why can't the United States protect its people as well as New Zealand has protected its people?

Maybe because the United States is not a small island nation in the South West Pacific ocean that is isolated from most other nation. New Zealand also does not have a densely populated international hub like NY city. Believe it or not, there are some benefits in being in the middle of nowhere.

New Zealand's North Island where most of the population lives is just as densely populated as the United States.

The Virus started in Wuhan China. To get to New Zealand or the United States, the virus has to first travel by boat or plane. New Zealand is closer to Wuhan China than the United States. The United States has a land border with only two countries, Canada and Mexico. Most people who travel to the United States come in by air travel, the same way most people travel to New Zealand.

No, it's not you moron. Auckland/Manukau City has a population of 1.4 million or so. The next biggest city on the North Island is Wellington with a population of 350,000. In between is a lot of empty space. Most towns are 1500 or less. The top twenty cities comprise 90% of New Zealands population.

He has idea how ignorant he is, he thinks New Zealand and America are very comparable as nations.

That is stupid!

Make the proper adjustment for the different size in populations, and you can make an accurate comparison between any two countries and rate them on how well they have protected their people from this PATHOGEN!

So then we should be able to do the same between NYC and Wyoming, correct? I mean, the relative density of the population has nothing to do with it, right?

Tokyo Japan is more densely populated than New York City or New York State. Yet, Japan only has 93 deaths while New York State has over 4,000.

Japan closed its travel at the same time Trump did and they immediately took distancing measures. We had dimwits here who called TRUMPS RESPONSE A HOAX and the idiots (Pelosie, Schumar, Deblasio, and Coumo) were out there encouraging close contact partys.

 

[U2Edge]

None, but its irrelevant since most people who travel to the United States do so through Air Travel, the same way people get to New Zealand. The coronavirus arrived in the United States the same way it arrived in New Zealand, through AIR TRAVEL. The land border is irrelevant.

Not irrelevant. It shows the ease of access to the US VS New Zealand. I realize you are attempting to compare apples to hand grenades, and you're lousy at it.

So what percentage of U.S. infections or due to infected people traveling across land from Mexico or Canada? Probably less than 1%.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Hmm..., Why did you omit Europe in your post? Your TDS is showing like a tattered dirty slip...

America is supposed to be the greatest country in the world. You know, Donald Trump made America great, right? Does this look like greatness to you?

As for Europe, there are only 14 countries in Europe that have more infections per capita than the United States. The United States has the 15th highest infection rate per capita in the world. Saying your doing better than a few countries in Europe that have the worst infection rates in the world, is more proof of how Donald Trump has failed this country.

So, what is the rate per capita compared to the rest of the world?

Microscopic?

Would that not defeat your reasoning?

 

[U2Edge]

Canada is getting crushed too. We lost massive jobs and Ontario lost over 40% of all jobs alone, even as the Premier tries to assure us our horse and buggy economy will recover.

We were already in dire straits before this virus, and they has made it so that people who apply for help must have made a MINIMUM in earnings, whereas the U.S uses a MAXIMUM ($99k). This means we have about 3-4x more people in desperate need in Canada with no option, they will just lose their homes, be evicted, not find work.

In an already destroyed economy this is horrible. Our leaders have told us to expect this to be the norm for at least a year! Meaning, we will have full blown communism in place while you are going back to work and crushing the global economies again.

Trump deserves some credit. If you want to place blame on a virus that came from Communist China, blame the Governor or Mayor of NY. If you don't think they are to blame, how is Trump?

Look at New Zealand, only one death from Coronavirus. Why can't the United States protect its people as well as New Zealand has protected its people?

Maybe because the United States is not a small island nation in the South West Pacific ocean that is isolated from most other nation. New Zealand also does not have a densely populated international hub like NY city. Believe it or not, there are some benefits in being in the middle of nowhere.

New Zealand's North Island where most of the population lives is just as densely populated as the United States.

The Virus started in Wuhan China. To get to New Zealand or the United States, the virus has to first travel by boat or plane. New Zealand is closer to Wuhan China than the United States. The United States has a land border with only two countries, Canada and Mexico. Most people who travel to the United States come in by air travel, the same way most people travel to New Zealand.

No, it's not you moron. Auckland/Manukau City has a population of 1.4 million or so. The next biggest city on the North Island is Wellington with a population of 350,000. In between is a lot of empty space. Most towns are 1500 or less. The top twenty cities comprise 90% of New Zealands population.

He has idea how ignorant he is, he thinks New Zealand and America are very comparable as nations.

That is stupid!

Make the proper adjustment for the different size in populations, and you can make an accurate comparison between any two countries and rate them on how well they have protected their people from this PATHOGEN!

So then we should be able to do the same between NYC and Wyoming, correct? I mean, the relative density of the population has nothing to do with it, right?

Tokyo Japan is more densely populated than New York City or New York State. Yet, Japan only has 93 deaths while New York State has over 4,000.

Japan closed its travel at the same time Trump did and they immediately took distancing measures. We had dimwits here who called TRUMPS RESPONSE A HOAX and the idiots (Pelosie, Schumar, Deblasio, and Coumo) were out there encouraging close contact partys.

Trump only blocked Travel from China. Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, New Zealand, Australia and Singapore blocked ALL FOREIGN TRAVEL.

DNA Analysis shows the infections in New York State came from EUROPE! Trump never blocked travel from Europe. He thought that just by blocking travel from China, that everything would be ok.

 

[U2Edge]

Hmm..., Why did you omit Europe in your post? Your TDS is showing like a tattered dirty slip...

America is supposed to be the greatest country in the world. You know, Donald Trump made America great, right? Does this look like greatness to you?

As for Europe, there are only 14 countries in Europe that have more infections per capita than the United States. The United States has the 15th highest infection rate per capita in the world. Saying your doing better than a few countries in Europe that have the worst infection rates in the world, is more proof of how Donald Trump has failed this country.

So, what is the rate per capita compared to the rest of the world?

Microscopic?

Would that not defeat your reasoning?

The United States has the 15th highest infection rate from coronavirus in the world. That's terrible no matter how you want to slice it.