Convalescent Plasma - Donald's new miracle cure refuted by NIH

[DrLove]

Let see, we now have hydroxychloroquine, injecting disinfectants, magical thinking and a probable October surprise consisting of a vaccine rushed out prior to clinical trial that only idiots will foolish enough to take.

And now C-Plasma? Sadly the CDC and FDA have become the final government agencies almost completely corrupted by Donald J Trump. Bring back Dr Fauci and actual SCIENCE - - - Please?!!

A panel of experts convened by the National Institute of Health issued a statement Tuesday directly contradicting the Food and Drug Administration and the president’s claim that convalescent plasma has been proven to be effective in treating COVID-19 patients. According to the NIH panel, data indicating convalescent plasma can treat COVID-19 is “insufficient.” The FDA granted an emergency authorization for the use of the substance, gleaned from the blood of coronavirus survivors, just last week. President Donald Trump touted a statistic saying that the plasma was “proven to reduce mortality by 35 percent.”​

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Scientists have called that figure misleading because the study that made the finding has not yet been peer reviewed or published, nor did it make use of a control group given a placebo, making it neither randomized nor controlled, the gold standard of medical research. The FDA’s commissioner Stephen Hahn has admitted he overstated convalescent plasma’s benefits as well. The NIH panel found that there were “currently no data from well-controlled, adequately powered randomized clinical trials” and therefore “insufficient data to recommend either for or against the use of convalescent plasma for the treatment of COVID-19.”​

NIH Not Ready to Buy Trumpâs Hype on COVID-19 Convalescent Plasma, Citing âInsufficientâ Data

The FDA authorized treating the coronavirus with blood from recovered patients last week, but the NIH says not so fast.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[Asclepias]

Goddam. Cant this retarded POTUS ever just once get confirmation on his hunches before he starts filling people with false hopes? How fucking hard is it to find out if something works before bringing it up to the nation as some miracle cure?

 

[theHawk]

No one ever said it was a “cure”. It’s a treatment for families to consider if things are really bad for a patient. It’s already been used in other countries.

But the left don’t care. “Orange Man” mentions it so it must be bad.

 

[DrLove]

Goddam. Cant this retarded POTUS ever just once get confirmation on his hunches before he starts filling people with false hopes? How fucking hard is it to find out if something works before bringing it up to the nation as some miracle cure?

Witnesses say that the Dithering Dotard burned out his brain sniffing Adderall on the set of The Apprentice.
Probably true, but of late I'm fairly certain he's been mainlining Hopium.

 

[Asclepias]

No one ever said it was a “cure”. It’s a treatment for families to consider if things are really bad for a patient. It’s already been used in other countries.

But the left don’t care. “Orange Man” mentions it so it must be bad.

if orange man mentions it then its already suspect because he has fucked up on so many other claims. Someone needs to teach him the concept of under promising and over delivering. Hes a fucking retard that thrives on hyping up his semi catatonic followers.

 

[DrLove]

No one ever said it was a “cure”. It’s a treatment for families to consider if things are really bad for a patient. It’s already been used in other countries.

But the left don’t care. “Orange Man” mentions it so it must be bad.

if orange man mentions it then its already suspect because he has fucked up on so many other claims. Someone needs to teach him the concept of under promising and over delivering. Hes a fucking retard that thrives on hyping up his semi catatonic followers.

SEMI-catatonic? I'm pretty sure they've gone full boat!!

 

[Billy_Bob]

Just WOW...

Four people at the NIH who disagree with the finding of over 500 scientists and countries that have used it with great success... Now how much you want to bet if I looked into thier political leanings they are all left wing fanatics? HMMmmmm

 

[blackhawk]

It seems trust or believe in science only applies if the science supports one’s political agenda.

 

[Billy_Bob]

It seems trust or believe in science only applies if the science supports one’s political agenda.

CVP has been used for over 100 years successfully... it has a very long track record.. The four at NIH are denying this...

 

[jbrownson0831]

Let see, we now have hydroxychloroquine, injecting disinfectants, magical thinking and a probable October surprise consisting of a vaccine rushed out prior to clinical trial that only idiots will foolish enough to take.

And now C-Plasma? Sadly the CDC and FDA have become the final government agencies almost completely corrupted by Donald J Trump. Bring back Dr Fauci and actual SCIENCE - - - Please?!!

A panel of experts convened by the National Institute of Health issued a statement Tuesday directly contradicting the Food and Drug Administration and the president’s claim that convalescent plasma has been proven to be effective in treating COVID-19 patients. According to the NIH panel, data indicating convalescent plasma can treat COVID-19 is “insufficient.” The FDA granted an emergency authorization for the use of the substance, gleaned from the blood of coronavirus survivors, just last week. President Donald Trump touted a statistic saying that the plasma was “proven to reduce mortality by 35 percent.”​

​

Scientists have called that figure misleading because the study that made the finding has not yet been peer reviewed or published, nor did it make use of a control group given a placebo, making it neither randomized nor controlled, the gold standard of medical research. The FDA’s commissioner Stephen Hahn has admitted he overstated convalescent plasma’s benefits as well. The NIH panel found that there were “currently no data from well-controlled, adequately powered randomized clinical trials” and therefore “insufficient data to recommend either for or against the use of convalescent plasma for the treatment of COVID-19.”​

NIH Not Ready to Buy Trumpâs Hype on COVID-19 Convalescent Plasma, Citing âInsufficientâ Data

The FDA authorized treating the coronavirus with blood from recovered patients last week, but the NIH says not so fast.

www.thedailybeast.com

Wow those "experts" sure do a lot of convening and babbling and changing their minds a lot. I actually appreciate someone out there pushing them to take some real action besides their constant hemming and hawing.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Let see, we now have hydroxychloroquine, injecting disinfectants, magical thinking and a probable October surprise consisting of a vaccine rushed out prior to clinical trial that only idiots will foolish enough to take.

And now C-Plasma? Sadly the CDC and FDA have become the final government agencies almost completely corrupted by Donald J Trump. Bring back Dr Fauci and actual SCIENCE - - - Please?!!

A panel of experts convened by the National Institute of Health issued a statement Tuesday directly contradicting the Food and Drug Administration and the president’s claim that convalescent plasma has been proven to be effective in treating COVID-19 patients. According to the NIH panel, data indicating convalescent plasma can treat COVID-19 is “insufficient.” The FDA granted an emergency authorization for the use of the substance, gleaned from the blood of coronavirus survivors, just last week. President Donald Trump touted a statistic saying that the plasma was “proven to reduce mortality by 35 percent.”​

​

Scientists have called that figure misleading because the study that made the finding has not yet been peer reviewed or published, nor did it make use of a control group given a placebo, making it neither randomized nor controlled, the gold standard of medical research. The FDA’s commissioner Stephen Hahn has admitted he overstated convalescent plasma’s benefits as well. The NIH panel found that there were “currently no data from well-controlled, adequately powered randomized clinical trials” and therefore “insufficient data to recommend either for or against the use of convalescent plasma for the treatment of COVID-19.”​

NIH Not Ready to Buy Trumpâs Hype on COVID-19 Convalescent Plasma, Citing âInsufficientâ Data

The FDA authorized treating the coronavirus with blood from recovered patients last week, but the NIH says not so fast.

www.thedailybeast.com

But...the last thing any Demcrat

Wow those "experts" sure do a lot of convening and babbling and changing their minds a lot. I actually appreciate someone out there pushing them to take some real action besides their constant hemming and hawing.

But....the last thing any Democrat would want is activity to defeat the leftyvirus.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Let see, we now have hydroxychloroquine, injecting disinfectants, magical thinking and a probable October surprise consisting of a vaccine rushed out prior to clinical trial that only idiots will foolish enough to take.

And now C-Plasma? Sadly the CDC and FDA have become the final government agencies almost completely corrupted by Donald J Trump. Bring back Dr Fauci and actual SCIENCE - - - Please?!!

A panel of experts convened by the National Institute of Health issued a statement Tuesday directly contradicting the Food and Drug Administration and the president’s claim that convalescent plasma has been proven to be effective in treating COVID-19 patients. According to the NIH panel, data indicating convalescent plasma can treat COVID-19 is “insufficient.” The FDA granted an emergency authorization for the use of the substance, gleaned from the blood of coronavirus survivors, just last week. President Donald Trump touted a statistic saying that the plasma was “proven to reduce mortality by 35 percent.”​

​

Scientists have called that figure misleading because the study that made the finding has not yet been peer reviewed or published, nor did it make use of a control group given a placebo, making it neither randomized nor controlled, the gold standard of medical research. The FDA’s commissioner Stephen Hahn has admitted he overstated convalescent plasma’s benefits as well. The NIH panel found that there were “currently no data from well-controlled, adequately powered randomized clinical trials” and therefore “insufficient data to recommend either for or against the use of convalescent plasma for the treatment of COVID-19.”​

NIH Not Ready to Buy Trumpâs Hype on COVID-19 Convalescent Plasma, Citing âInsufficientâ Data

The FDA authorized treating the coronavirus with blood from recovered patients last week, but the NIH says not so fast.

www.thedailybeast.com

I donated on Monday and the Red Cross could not be more thankful. How do you explain that? Plasma for COVID-19 patients. They asked me to donate again in 4 weeks.

Again, how do you explain that please? Is the American Red Cross lying?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Goddam. Cant this retarded POTUS ever just once get confirmation on his hunches before he starts filling people with false hopes? How fucking hard is it to find out if something works before bringing it up to the nation as some miracle cure?

Dickhead, STFU, adults are speaking....is Marcus Smart still all "hustle"? Or was I right again? Idiot.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Let see, we now have hydroxychloroquine, injecting disinfectants, magical thinking and a probable October surprise consisting of a vaccine rushed out prior to clinical trial that only idiots will foolish enough to take.

And now C-Plasma? Sadly the CDC and FDA have become the final government agencies almost completely corrupted by Donald J Trump. Bring back Dr Fauci and actual SCIENCE - - - Please?!!

A panel of experts convened by the National Institute of Health issued a statement Tuesday directly contradicting the Food and Drug Administration and the president’s claim that convalescent plasma has been proven to be effective in treating COVID-19 patients. According to the NIH panel, data indicating convalescent plasma can treat COVID-19 is “insufficient.” The FDA granted an emergency authorization for the use of the substance, gleaned from the blood of coronavirus survivors, just last week. President Donald Trump touted a statistic saying that the plasma was “proven to reduce mortality by 35 percent.”​

​

Scientists have called that figure misleading because the study that made the finding has not yet been peer reviewed or published, nor did it make use of a control group given a placebo, making it neither randomized nor controlled, the gold standard of medical research. The FDA’s commissioner Stephen Hahn has admitted he overstated convalescent plasma’s benefits as well. The NIH panel found that there were “currently no data from well-controlled, adequately powered randomized clinical trials” and therefore “insufficient data to recommend either for or against the use of convalescent plasma for the treatment of COVID-19.”​

NIH Not Ready to Buy Trumpâs Hype on COVID-19 Convalescent Plasma, Citing âInsufficientâ Data

The FDA authorized treating the coronavirus with blood from recovered patients last week, but the NIH says not so fast.

www.thedailybeast.com

I donated on Monday and the Red Cross could not be more thankful. How do you explain that? Plasma for COVID-19 patients. They asked me to donate again in 4 weeks.

Again, how do you explain that please? Is the American Red Cross lying?

Bad Red Cross, trying to help patients not get the virus....the last thing the left wants is positive progress fighting the virus.

 

[DrLove]

But....the last thing any Democrat would want is activity to defeat the leftyvirus.

You follow Rump - The rest of us will let SCIENCE lead. Fair nuff?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Let see, we now have hydroxychloroquine, injecting disinfectants, magical thinking and a probable October surprise consisting of a vaccine rushed out prior to clinical trial that only idiots will foolish enough to take.

And now C-Plasma? Sadly the CDC and FDA have become the final government agencies almost completely corrupted by Donald J Trump. Bring back Dr Fauci and actual SCIENCE - - - Please?!!

A panel of experts convened by the National Institute of Health issued a statement Tuesday directly contradicting the Food and Drug Administration and the president’s claim that convalescent plasma has been proven to be effective in treating COVID-19 patients. According to the NIH panel, data indicating convalescent plasma can treat COVID-19 is “insufficient.” The FDA granted an emergency authorization for the use of the substance, gleaned from the blood of coronavirus survivors, just last week. President Donald Trump touted a statistic saying that the plasma was “proven to reduce mortality by 35 percent.”​

​

Scientists have called that figure misleading because the study that made the finding has not yet been peer reviewed or published, nor did it make use of a control group given a placebo, making it neither randomized nor controlled, the gold standard of medical research. The FDA’s commissioner Stephen Hahn has admitted he overstated convalescent plasma’s benefits as well. The NIH panel found that there were “currently no data from well-controlled, adequately powered randomized clinical trials” and therefore “insufficient data to recommend either for or against the use of convalescent plasma for the treatment of COVID-19.”​

NIH Not Ready to Buy Trumpâs Hype on COVID-19 Convalescent Plasma, Citing âInsufficientâ Data

The FDA authorized treating the coronavirus with blood from recovered patients last week, but the NIH says not so fast.

www.thedailybeast.com

I donated on Monday and the Red Cross could not be more thankful. How do you explain that? Plasma for COVID-19 patients. They asked me to donate again in 4 weeks.

Again, how do you explain that please? Is the American Red Cross lying?

Bad Red Cross, trying to help patients not get the virus....the last thing the left wants is positive progress fighting the virus.

Actually it is to help those that have it and need my plasma to fight it off and save their lives. Again the American Red Cross asked me to donate and to donate again. Why would they do that if it doesn't work. Someone please answer me. Assfaceias is a coward and a liar. He should be ridiculed and ignored. He is also an antisemite and Holocaust denier.

 

[jbrownson0831]

But....the last thing any Democrat would want is activity to defeat the leftyvirus.

You follow Rump - The rest of us will let SCIENCE lead. Fair nuff?

Riiiggght.....and just how do you "follow" a crooked path that changes direction every day there snowflake?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

But....the last thing any Democrat would want is activity to defeat the leftyvirus.

You follow Rump - The rest of us will let SCIENCE lead. Fair nuff?

Riiiggght.....and just how do you "follow" a crooked path that changes direction every day there snowflake?

Funny how the Doc won't respond to my post. Doesn't fit his Leftist lying narrative.

 

[DrLove]

I donated on Monday and the Red Cross could not be more thankful. How do you explain that? Plasma for COVID-19 patients. They asked me to donate again in 4 weeks.

Again, how do you explain that please? Is the American Red Cross lying?

Your plasma donations are no doubt a gift of the highest order.
They are for RESEARCH in order to conduct clinical trials. NOT for immediate injection into others.
Sheesh dude, you're smarter than that. Or at least I thought you MIGHT be.

 

[jbrownson0831]

But....the last thing any Democrat would want is activity to defeat the leftyvirus.

You follow Rump - The rest of us will let SCIENCE lead. Fair nuff?

Riiiggght.....and just how do you "follow" a crooked path that changes direction every day there snowflake?

Funny how the Doc won't respond to my post. Doesn't fit his Leftist lying narrative.

He has to wait for a fresh set of talking points from his "science" propagandists