Continuing evolution in humans

[Old Rocks]

A genetic adaptation in high Tibet is enabling women there to have more children than those lacking the adaptation. While other populations at high altitudes also adapt in different ways, the adaptation in Tibet puts no strain on the cardio-pulmonary system.

MSN

 

[Crepitus]

A genetic adaptation in high Tibet is enabling women there to have more children than those lacking the adaptation. While other populations at high altitudes also adapt in different ways, the adaptation in Tibet puts no strain on the cardio-pulmonary system.

MSN

It's ongoing everywhere. More and more people lack wisdom teeth, less and less people are lactose intolerant, etc...

 

[1srelluc]

So what is your point? Everyone move to Denver?

 

[Old Rocks]

So what is your point? Everyone move to Denver?

Quite obvious that no matter how much time was spent explaining it to you, you would never understand.

 

[1srelluc]

Quite obvious that no matter how much time was spent explaining it to you, you would never understand.

OK, with you explaining it you are likely correct.

 

[ReinyDays]

A genetic adaptation in high Tibet is enabling women there to have more children than those lacking the adaptation. While other populations at high altitudes also adapt in different ways, the adaptation in Tibet puts no strain on the cardio-pulmonary system.

MSN

Old news ... I remember this being discussed back in the 1960's ... the article is written for 10- or 12-year-olds ... probably why it caught the OP's eye ... so they didn't have to say what that "adaption" is ... so it's likely made-up bullshit ...

Everybody has this genetic trait ... everybody who lives long enough at altitude gains this benefit ... mountaineers know to spend weeks (?) at altitude before they try to climb above 15,000 feet ... IIRC the body reacts to the thin atmosphere by producing more red blood cells ... athletes as well will train in places like Mexico City and Quito, then go directly to compete at sea level ... they say it gives a bit of advantage ...

Not evolution ... there's no genetic change ... all of us have this ability ... not just Tibetan women ... (what a racist thing to say) ... more likely the social and economic stresses of ongoing genocide of Tibetan culture and bloodlines on the Plateau are causing the women to whelp more often ... very common among the various rat lineages ...

Labor and Birth – Rat Guide

ratguide.com

 

[progressive hunter]

A genetic adaptation in high Tibet is enabling women there to have more children than those lacking the adaptation. While other populations at high altitudes also adapt in different ways, the adaptation in Tibet puts no strain on the cardio-pulmonary system.

MSN

thats not evolution based on your own word adaptation,,

two different words with two different meanings,,

 

[ReinyDays]

thats not evolution based on your own word adaptation,,

two different words with two different meanings,,

Can you please make that distinction? ... evolution can cause adaptation, but not necessarily ... or are you using different definitions ... you've made this distinction in other threads and I've been meaning to ask you about it ...

Sounds like you're making the same mistake Darwin made ... "survival of the fittest" has no part in biological evolution ... all that matters is reproduction, not adaptation ...

Consider the lowly virus ... some say it's not even life ... yet we know it evolved after bacteria ... that's the virus' food source, so bacteria had to have come first ... a case of biological evolution moving form complex to simple ... viruses can't reproduce without a host ... and they gain reproductive advantage by using a host ...

 

[progressive hunter]

Can you please make that distinction? ... evolution can cause adaptation, but not necessarily ... or are you using different definitions ... you've made this distinction in other threads and I've been meaning to ask you about it ...

Sounds like you're making the same mistake Darwin made ... "survival of the fittest" has no part in biological evolution ... all that matters is reproduction, not adaptation ...

Consider the lowly virus ... some say it's not even life ... yet we know it evolved after bacteria ... that's the virus' food source, so bacteria had to have come first ... a case of biological evolution moving form complex to simple ... viruses can't reproduce without a host ... and they gain reproductive advantage by using a host ...

still a human,, so not evolution,,

 

[ReinyDays]

still a human,, so not evolution,,

I asked for definitions ... how do you define evolution and how do you define adaptation? ...

Mind you ... stars evolve ... they don't adapt ...

 

[progressive hunter]

I asked for definitions ... how do you define evolution and how do you define adaptation? ...

Mind you ... stars evolve ... they don't adapt ...

I dont define it,,

if its evolution why did they say adaptation??

 

[ReinyDays]

I dont define it,,

if its evolution why did they say adaptation??

I asked what definition you use ... the article is click-bait for small-minded people ...

Looks like you don't know what evolution is ... and the article is over your head ... don't worry though, you'll be taking Middle School Science class soon so maybe then we can have a semi-mature conversation about this ... sheesh ...

 

[progressive hunter]

I asked what definition you use ... the article is click-bait for small-minded people ...

Looks like you don't know what evolution is ... and the article is over your head ... don't worry though, you'll be taking Middle School Science class soon so maybe then we can have a semi-mature conversation about this ... sheesh ...

evo·lu·tion
[ˌiːvəˈluːʃn]
noun
evolution (noun)
evolutions (plural noun)

1. the process by which animals, plants, and other living organisms are transformed into different forms by the accumulation of changes over successive generations.

adap·ta·tion
[ˌadəpˈteɪʃn]

biology
the process of change by which an organism or species becomes better suited to its environment:

 

[Unkotare]

I knew some Tibetan girls who were "highly evolved."

 

[Natural Citizen]

All I know is titties should come with squeaky toys in em...

 

[ReinyDays]

evo·lu·tion
[ˌiːvəˈluːʃn]
noun
evolution (noun)
evolutions (plural noun)

1. the process by which animals, plants, and other living organisms are transformed into different forms by the accumulation of changes over successive generations.

adap·ta·tion
[ˌadəpˈteɪʃn]

biology
the process of change by which an organism or species becomes better suited to its environment:

Thank you ... you are making the same mistake as Darwin ... evolution doesn't consider being "better suited to its environment", only reproduction ... house cats are good example ... they have to live with semi-evolved rats and that's never better ... wildcats run the other direction and that's what caused speciation ... no matter how bad our homes are for house cats, living in our homes increases their reproduction ... the only thing the modern synthesis cares about ...

 

[progressive hunter]

Thank you ... you are making the same mistake as Darwin ... evolution doesn't consider being "better suited to its environment", only reproduction ... house cats are good example ... they have to live with semi-evolved rats and that's never better ... wildcats run the other direction and that's what caused speciation ... no matter how bad our homes are for house cats, living in our homes increases their reproduction ... the only thing the modern synthesis cares about ...

but they are still cats,, so nothing to do with evolution,,

 

[Old Rocks]

Old news ... I remember this being discussed back in the 1960's ... the article is written for 10- or 12-year-olds ... probably why it caught the OP's eye ... so they didn't have to say what that "adaption" is ... so it's likely made-up bullshit ...

Everybody has this genetic trait ... everybody who lives long enough at altitude gains this benefit ... mountaineers know to spend weeks (?) at altitude before they try to climb above 15,000 feet ... IIRC the body reacts to the thin atmosphere by producing more red blood cells ... athletes as well will train in places like Mexico City and Quito, then go directly to compete at sea level ... they say it gives a bit of advantage ...

Not evolution ... there's no genetic change ... all of us have this ability ... not just Tibetan women ... (what a racist thing to say) ... more likely the social and economic stresses of ongoing genocide of Tibetan culture and bloodlines on the Plateau are causing the women to whelp more often ... very common among the various rat lineages ...

Labor and Birth – Rat Guide

ratguide.com

How about actually reading the article. No, everybody does not have that ability. The genetic change involves changes in the heart structure and ability of the amount of oxygen the blood can carry. The adaptation of the Andean people involves denser blood, which carries more oxygen, but also increases blood pressure. Try actually reading what you respond to.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Not evolution ... there's no genetic change ...

"As previously shown in foundational work, EPAS1 and EGLN1 are under strong positive selection in Tibetan populations. These genes help regulate hemoglobin levels under chronic low oxygen, providing a powerful evolutionary advantage at high altitudes"

 

[Hafar1014]

but they are still cats,, so nothing to do with evolution,,

Darwin defined the basis of evolution as fecundity. Thats the ability to survive long enough to reproduce. That applies to all life even bacteria.