Conservative. Liberal. Democrat. Republican. Left Wing. Right Wing.

[OldLady]

Recently I have been called a left winger, right winger, Liberal, etc, etc, etc. For any reason. So I did a little research, and to come to find out, there is not one I fully agree with. I may agree with ones philosophy, the other ideologies, another ones ideas, and another economic coordination, and disagree with others.
So what if you don't fully agree with any of them?
What would you be considered?
Is there a neutral?
Something in between, that agrees and disagrees with a little of each one?

No. The right will call you a libtard commie and the left will call you a Nazi. Thoughtful types might call you a RINO or a partisan whore.
Any other questions?

 

[OldLady]

I believe that this applies to your post...see what you think:

In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states:
“ There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”

Everyone should read On the duty of Civil Disobedience.

On the Duty of Civil Disobedience - Henry David Thoreau

I loved that book. However, pure theory is just that--pure theory. Even Thoreau couldn't live in the woods forever.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Recently I have been called a left winger, right winger, Liberal, etc, etc, etc. For any reason. So I did a little research, and to come to find out, there is not one I fully agree with. I may agree with ones philosophy, the other ideologies, another ones ideas, and another economic coordination, and disagree with others.
So what if you don't fully agree with any of them?
What would you be considered?
Is there a neutral?
Something in between, that agrees and disagrees with a little of each one?

The Political Compass

It's a fairly long test, so I think the results are accurate.

I did the Political Compass test in June it was posted in another thread, below are my results, I think it's accurate, I have always been on the Authoritarian Right, I also agree with those who comment that I'm the most Right-Wing member of this forum.

Also I'm pro-Capitalism and anti-Socialism/Communism so I think the Economic section is accurate also.

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Yikes! Just a few squares from Hitler. Go figure.

take it and post the results of your own, or are you concerned how close to mao or stalin you are?

 

[Two Thumbs]

I really cant believe that anybody could be strictly one sided. Agreeing and believing every single thing that each group does is unbelievable. I was reading the list of beliefs for republican, and I was like, "ok, that's cool, ok, I can agree with that" then the next one was like how is that even on the list, it doesn't even make sense to the others on the list.
I just cant see any one person can actually believe and agree with a every single political groups believes, philosophy, ideologies, and whatever else?
I agree with things from every group and disagree with things from every group.

conservatives tend to not agree on many things and still be part of the larger group.
'liberals' are not allowed to stray from the pack, or else
everyone else just has to deal with the name calling with humor, or egging them on, which is way more fun.

 

[BlackSand]

conservatives tend to not agree on many things and still be part of the larger group.
'liberals' are not allowed to stray from the pack, or else
everyone else just has to deal with the name calling with humor, or egging them on, which is way more fun.

You have to give it to the conservatives though (the real ones, not the GOP).
It's kind of hard to attempt to fix governing if empowering the government to meddle in things it shouldn't goes against your principles.

You ask a conservative what we should do ... Stop looking towards government to accomplish what you should be doing yourself.
That's completely absurd nowadays ... When they teach people what to think, instead of how to think.

.

 

[Two Thumbs]

conservatives tend to not agree on many things and still be part of the larger group.
'liberals' are not allowed to stray from the pack, or else
everyone else just has to deal with the name calling with humor, or egging them on, which is way more fun.

You have to give it to the conservatives though (the real ones, not the GOP).
It's kind of hard to attempt to fix governing if empowering the government to meddle in things it shouldn't goes against your principles.

You ask a conservative what we should do ... Stop looking towards government to accomplish what you should be doing yourself.
That's completely absurd nowadays ... When they teach people what to think, instead of how to think.

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this will give you an idea just how far apart the right and left are;

listening to npr, a guest on 'Fresh air' talked about the 'Frightening 5'.

now you might be thinking; pollution, invasive animals, chemicals, pollution, sources of global warming.
Like any normal person.

but this guy was talking about tech giants, "Big Tech" (big being leftist code for evul). Amazon, google, AT&T, etc etc. He feared them b/c they were doing things that government does, like investing in science, tech, devolvement, all w/o government say so.


that's correct, the left fears the fact that we don't actually need that much government.

 

[BlackSand]

this will give you an idea just how far apart the right and left are;

listening to npr, a guest on 'Fresh air' talked about the 'Frightening 5'.

now you might be thinking; pollution, invasive animals, chemicals, pollution, sources of global warming.
Like any normal person.

but this guy was talking about tech giants, "Big Tech" (big being leftist code for evul). Amazon, google, AT&T, etc etc. He feared them b/c they were doing things that government does, like investing in science, tech, devolvement, all w/o government say so.


that's correct, the left fears the fact that we don't actually need that much government.

Those on the left or the right that depend on the government to guide or provide for them ...
Will never effectively match those who strive for a better existence without government intervention.
If choose you follow initiative, ambition, innovation, progress and new horizons ... Well, none of that is most effectively managed by government.

Take for instance legislation that is scored and justified using the CBO ... No one can accurately predict the future ten years from now no matter how smart they are.
It's all garbage steeped in minutia ... Absent the true desire to be free and pursue the greatest of heights we are all capable of.
You have to base your direction on principles ... And devise initiatives that meet your goals with a respect towards your principles.

Those who choose to relinquish their responsibility to the government ... Are choosing to be shackled to mediocrity at best.

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[baileyn45]

Recently I have been called a left winger, right winger, Liberal, etc, etc, etc. For any reason. So I did a little research, and to come to find out, there is not one I fully agree with. I may agree with ones philosophy, the other ideologies, another ones ideas, and another economic coordination, and disagree with others.
So what if you don't fully agree with any of them?
What would you be considered?
Is there a neutral?
Something in between, that agrees and disagrees with a little of each one?

Personally, I would classify you as a thinking human being. A breed that's getting rarer by the day.

 

[baileyn45]

I am afraid that the republican party is heading so far right that it isn't just conservative anymore but a full fledged fascist party. One that hates anyone that isn't christian and utra-religious...One that hates investing in our own country and one that hates American citizens for choosing to live differently.

One that would love to throw people off of roof tops.

I'm curious, exactly what about the republicans do you find so far right?

I have to tell you I actually laughed out loud at the "fascist" part. As with most people on the left I have to wonder if you have the foggiest notion of what fascism is.

 

[baileyn45]

In picture format....

I just had this very discussion with a college aged nephew. He has been taught exactly what you show, that communism and fascism are at the opposite ends of a spectrum when in reality they are two sides of the same coin. One party, centralized authorities that seek to control every aspect of society through force.

 

[ThatDude30]

Recently I have been called a left winger, right winger, Liberal, etc, etc, etc. For any reason. So I did a little research, and to come to find out, there is not one I fully agree with. I may agree with ones philosophy, the other ideologies, another ones ideas, and another economic coordination, and disagree with others.
So what if you don't fully agree with any of them?
What would you be considered?
Is there a neutral?
Something in between, that agrees and disagrees with a little of each one?

Personally, I would classify you as a thinking human being. A breed that's getting rarer by the day.

It seems there are a few people on this site lacking an open mind. Apparently you need to post a link with your opinion, even when you aren't stating anything to be fact. People amaze me. I am very concerned about future generations.

 

[ThatDude30]

OP, this is a place where most of the people are all in one side or the other. They don't know the meaning of "moderation."

Yea I see most need some kind of guidance.

 

[ThatDude30]

I really cant believe that anybody could be strictly one sided. Agreeing and believing every single thing that each group does is unbelievable. I was reading the list of beliefs for republican, and I was like, "ok, that's cool, ok, I can agree with that" then the next one was like how is that even on the list, it doesn't even make sense to the others on the list.
I just cant see any one person can actually believe and agree with a every single political groups believes, philosophy, ideologies, and whatever else?
I agree with things from every group and disagree with things from every group.

How's this for the basis of conservative beliefs...

individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

where do you get conservative beliefs out of that? I am a realist. To me both sides are for the most part full of shit.

 

[ThatDude30]

I really cant believe that anybody could be strictly one sided. Agreeing and believing every single thing that each group does is unbelievable. I was reading the list of beliefs for republican, and I was like, "ok, that's cool, ok, I can agree with that" then the next one was like how is that even on the list, it doesn't even make sense to the others on the list.
I just cant see any one person can actually believe and agree with a every single political groups believes, philosophy, ideologies, and whatever else?
I agree with things from every group and disagree with things from every group.

"I really cant believe that anybody could be strictly one sided. Agreeing and believing every single thing that each group does is unbelievable. "

Hence, airing out perspectives on the message board.

Yea that's insane. To me the beliefs on either side don't go together. Righties will believe this and that, and then believe some thing way off, like it shouldn't even be there. That goes for both sides.

 

[BluesLegend]

I am afraid that the republican party is heading so far right that it isn't just conservative anymore but a full fledged fascist party. One that hates anyone that isn't christian and utra-religious...One that hates investing in our own country and one that hates American citizens for choosing to live differently.

One that would love to throw people off of roof tops.

I'm beginning to wonder if you are a deep cover conservative who infiltrated the Dem party to make them look crazy.

 

[initforme]

I am pro working class as I have seen the attack in them. The things they need to help them when they get old....social security, Medicare etc are deemed awful. Overtime pay is somehow unfair to the company (lie)....Family leave act is bad (lie). What a complete joke. I'm the other hand I am pro life, pro corporate tax cuts that ensure much higher wages for those who actually do the work (not the ceo)....

 

[deanrd]

Recently I have been called a left winger, right winger, Liberal, etc, etc, etc. For any reason. So I did a little research, and to come to find out, there is not one I fully agree with. I may agree with ones philosophy, the other ideologies, another ones ideas, and another economic coordination, and disagree with others.
So what if you don't fully agree with any of them?
What would you be considered?
Is there a neutral?
Something in between, that agrees and disagrees with a little of each one?

Unfortunately, for the right, all these choices are binary.

I believe in healthcare for all Americans, not "let him die".
I believe that daycare should be available so parents can work, not "it's not my kid".
I believe that Americans need an education to fill some of the 6.2 million jobs currently available - Not "college is bad for America".
I believe that America can once again be leaders in science, not "scientists live off government grants".
I believe people who do work for you should be paid, not stiffed.
I believe all Americans, if they are not felons or minors, should have the right to vote, not voter suppression.
I believe unarmed blacks should be able to walk down the street, and not be shot for "walking while black".
I believe an American of Mexican heritage can make a great judge.
I believe that American POW's should be honored. Not told we like people who weren't captured.
I believe that poor children and Veterans shouldn't have their food stamps cut.
I believe billionaires aren't "needy" and don't need their taxes cut.
I believe churches that promote the murder of millions of gays should pay taxes.

And so much more. It's hard to find common ground with people who have beliefs that are opposite to my core beliefs.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I really cant believe that anybody could be strictly one sided. Agreeing and believing every single thing that each group does is unbelievable. I was reading the list of beliefs for republican, and I was like, "ok, that's cool, ok, I can agree with that" then the next one was like how is that even on the list, it doesn't even make sense to the others on the list.
I just cant see any one person can actually believe and agree with a every single political groups believes, philosophy, ideologies, and whatever else?
I agree with things from every group and disagree with things from every group.

How's this for the basis of conservative beliefs...

individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

where do you get conservative beliefs out of that? I am a realist. To me both sides are for the most part full of shit.

1. Your use of vulgarity marks you as less than educated.

2. Check out the memorializing documents, the Declaration and the Constitution.

3. Check back when you fill in your myriad of lacunae.....better look those up.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Recently I have been called a left winger, right winger, Liberal, etc, etc, etc. For any reason. So I did a little research, and to come to find out, there is not one I fully agree with. I may agree with ones philosophy, the other ideologies, another ones ideas, and another economic coordination, and disagree with others.
So what if you don't fully agree with any of them?
What would you be considered?
Is there a neutral?
Something in between, that agrees and disagrees with a little of each one?

Unfortunately, for the right, all these choices are binary.

I believe in healthcare for all Americans, not "let him die".
I believe that daycare should be available so parents can work, not "it's not my kid".
I believe that Americans need an education to fill some of the 6.2 million jobs currently available - Not "college is bad for America".
I believe that America can once again be leaders in science, not "scientists live off government grants".
I believe people who do work for you should be paid, not stiffed.
I believe all Americans, if they are not felons or minors, should have the right to vote, not voter suppression.
I believe unarmed blacks should be able to walk down the street, and not be shot for "walking while black".
I believe an American of Mexican heritage can make a great judge.
I believe that American POW's should be honored. Not told we like people who weren't captured.
I believe that poor children and Veterans shouldn't have their food stamps cut.
I believe billionaires aren't "needy" and don't need their taxes cut.
I believe churches that promote the murder of millions of gays should pay taxes.

And so much more. It's hard to find common ground with people who have beliefs that are opposite to my core beliefs.

"I believe in healthcare for all Americans, not "let him die".

The Republican President, in 1986, signed a law mandating healthcare for every individual in the nation....legal or otherwise.

You come across as unbelievably stupid.

Bet you're tired of so many people telling you that.