Conservative Contempt & Hatred of the Democratic Process

[RetiredGySgt]

That's a joke right? Bush made 1.3 TRILLION dollars in tax cuts for the wealthy while waging two wars. Does that sound anywhere near "sane"? Does that sound like it's "helping" the US? If the taxes on the very rich are cut, who pays for the wars.

It's like Republicans are just, I don't know, just so, I want to say stupid, but the word isn't deep enough for what ails them. All the facts are RIGHT THERE and still, they don't get it.. It has to be some mental illness. Some defect of the mind. Some type of "determined idiocy".

Can you keep on topic at all? Bush hasn't been president in nearly a year. He had nothing to do with the abortion of a health care bill passed by the Democratic controlled Senate.
I think you are the one who is stupid. The facts are right there. The bill will cost way more than $1T. It will extend coverage only to 10M people. These are facts that you refuse to answer. Do you think it is right to throw people in jail for not buying a financial product? Is this the new Democratic Party?
It is; they are the party of **** You. You don't want to buy health insurance because you're a 20 year old chick in great health and struggling to pay your college loans? Well **** you! You'll do it anyway. Because we bend over for the insurance companies. That's the Democratic Party way.

You're right. Eight of the last nine years, Republicans did NOTHING to help the American people even as they were getting ripped off left and right by insurance companies. And now, when Democrats try to do something for the American people, Republicans pull every dirty trick in the book to try to sink it. So naturally, the deal wasn't good.

And look at the STUPID thing you write. One trillion for 10 million? What is that? Like a hundred thousand per person? Does that even make sense? Did I get that right 100,000 dollars per person? That's a lie. Even 10 thousand would be too much.

No wonder you resort to swearing. It's what you know. Oh, sorry. It's ALL you know.

Once again you dumb as a ******* retard rock, the 8 years Bush was President, the Senate was controlled for 4 years by DEMOCRATS. And the House was Controlled for 2 years by DEMOCRATS.

 

[The Rabbi]

That's a joke right? Bush made 1.3 TRILLION dollars in tax cuts for the wealthy while waging two wars. Does that sound anywhere near "sane"? Does that sound like it's "helping" the US? If the taxes on the very rich are cut, who pays for the wars.

It's like Republicans are just, I don't know, just so, I want to say stupid, but the word isn't deep enough for what ails them. All the facts are RIGHT THERE and still, they don't get it.. It has to be some mental illness. Some defect of the mind. Some type of "determined idiocy".

Can you keep on topic at all? Bush hasn't been president in nearly a year. He had nothing to do with the abortion of a health care bill passed by the Democratic controlled Senate.
I think you are the one who is stupid. The facts are right there. The bill will cost way more than $1T. It will extend coverage only to 10M people. These are facts that you refuse to answer. Do you think it is right to throw people in jail for not buying a financial product? Is this the new Democratic Party?
It is; they are the party of **** You. You don't want to buy health insurance because you're a 20 year old chick in great health and struggling to pay your college loans? Well **** you! You'll do it anyway. Because we bend over for the insurance companies. That's the Democratic Party way.

You're right. Eight of the last nine years, Republicans did NOTHING to help the American people even as they were getting ripped off left and right by insurance companies. And now, when Democrats try to do something for the American people, Republicans pull every dirty trick in the book to try to sink it. So naturally, the deal wasn't good.

And look at the STUPID thing you write. One trillion for 10 million? What is that? Like a hundred thousand per person? Does that even make sense? Did I get that right 100,000 dollars per person? That's a lie. Even 10 thousand would be too much.

No wonder you resort to swearing. It's what you know. Oh, sorry. It's ALL you know.

Your reasoning skills are poor. But this was already known.
First off, who controlled the Congress for the last 3 years? And this during the time a GOP president bent over backwards and sideways to be "bipartisan", each time getting it in the shorts from the Dums. Had the Dums given a flip about true health care reform they could have crafted a real bipartisan bill, not the bribe that got passed.
Second, GOP opposition did not guarantee a poor bill. Democratic desire to take over the health care industry and increase their power did that. The point isn't even logical.
And it is not a lie. The bill will cost over a trillion dollars. That's a fact. It will increase coverage by only 10M people who otherwise would not have been able to get it. That is also a fact. Of course that's stupid. It's the Democratic Party way, the party of **** You.

 

[California Girl]

Your premise is flawed. You are confusing the democratic process with the legislative process.

Goes to demonstrate the stupidity of the left.

Personally, I find it entertaining that the left whine about the right 'blocking' anything. They can't 'block' anything - they don't have enough votes. The current mess is totally due to the incompetence of the left themselves.

Pre-existing Stupidity will not be covered under the new 'ObamaCares' plan.

 

[Mike458877]

When did conservative hatred and contempt of the Democratic process become so acceptable?

Try convincing anyone with even an ounce of integrity and fairness that conservatives have shown respect for the democratic process.

When they were in power recently they would not even allow a bill sponsored by a Dem to reach the House Floor unless it had a few GOP cosponsors. They had come to power with W who promosed a bipartanship agenda...uniter not divider.

Then Obama and the Dems win everything and the conservatives use the GOP to block every little thing and even go so far as to question the elligibility of and citizenship status of the duly elected President of the United States of America.

If this isn't one example of contempt and hatred of the democratic process and the principles on which this nation was founded, I don't know what is.

Mitch McConnell was confronted with the fact that his party and he were complaining about things they themselves had been doing only a year ago and he laughed.

The list of shit goes on....

Now I understand your avatar. Well, at least you don't hide your ignorance.

It is not the democratic process which is despised, it is the sell out liberals, who are sinking this nation.

And the goofy mindless sheep who support them!

Mike

 

[Harry Dresden]

Dave, don't call others a "******* moron"; I've read your posts and your not even average. Every time you post, I pity you.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHOHOHOHOHOHOHAHAHAHA TEEHEETEEHEE GIGGLE SNICKER wipe watering eyes. Sip water. Breath.

im sure many in here feel the same way when you and your band of brothers post Dean.....does Pelosi wear underpants when she is sitting before you giving you your instructions for the week?......

 

[Harry Dresden]

And Obama is not much better than Bush, but at least he isn' scaring the shit out of people for political gain.

WHAT!!!.....Dev.....just when i was thinking you were coming to the Center stage.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

And the jury is still out on Obama because he's got 3-7 years left. I think he will accomplish a lot. Labor will benefit if right wingers aren't in the white house outsourcing jobs and creating tax break loopholes for the rich. And running up the debt on defense contracts. And yes, Obama is no better, but McCain/Bush are a blank check to the corporations. Obama won't give as much as the GOP will to "the man". Oil and Defense companies.

Obama spends money in America, the GOP spend it in Dubai, Iraq, Afgan, Switzerland & Caymen Islands.

Middle class Republicans are really the dumbest of voters. You sat and watched the GOP ruin America and you still stay the ocurse?

Bobo you do realize you contradict yourself RIGHT?....one post you will say this guy is no different than the Repubs....in another he is.....they both suck the cocks of the big money guys....then he isnt....let me set ya straight Bo.....HE AINT NO DIFFERENT....the Dems are playing with the same guys....and you know what.....THERE AINT A ******* THING ME OR YOU OR YOUR FAR LEFTIST BUDDIES CAN DO ABOUT IT..........have a good New Years Bo....

 

[Murf76]

When did conservative hatred and contempt of the Democratic process become so acceptable?

Try convincing anyone with even an ounce of integrity and fairness that conservatives have shown respect for the democratic process.

When they were in power recently they would not even allow a bill sponsored by a Dem to reach the House Floor unless it had a few GOP cosponsors. They had come to power with W who promosed a bipartanship agenda...uniter not divider.

Then Obama and the Dems win everything and the conservatives use the GOP to block every little thing and even go so far as to question the elligibility of and citizenship status of the duly elected President of the United States of America.

If this isn't one example of contempt and hatred of the democratic process and the principles on which this nation was founded, I don't know what is.

Mitch McConnell was confronted with the fact that his party and he were complaining about things they themselves had been doing only a year ago and he laughed.

The list of shit goes on....

Oh that's rich. Really, it is.
And this in defense of so-called "Democrats" who are currently undermining the legal process in order to Trojan Horse socialized medicine through the back door of the Capitol Building.

Riddle me this, thou True Believer in the Democratic Process...
WHY didn't the "Democrats" in power utilize the only legal means by which socialized medicine can be adopted in this country?. Why didn't they call for a Constitutional Amendment if they're so sure that what they're doing is the will of the majority?

 

[rdean]

Can you keep on topic at all? Bush hasn't been president in nearly a year. He had nothing to do with the abortion of a health care bill passed by the Democratic controlled Senate.
I think you are the one who is stupid. The facts are right there. The bill will cost way more than $1T. It will extend coverage only to 10M people. These are facts that you refuse to answer. Do you think it is right to throw people in jail for not buying a financial product? Is this the new Democratic Party?
It is; they are the party of **** You. You don't want to buy health insurance because you're a 20 year old chick in great health and struggling to pay your college loans? Well **** you! You'll do it anyway. Because we bend over for the insurance companies. That's the Democratic Party way.

You're right. Eight of the last nine years, Republicans did NOTHING to help the American people even as they were getting ripped off left and right by insurance companies. And now, when Democrats try to do something for the American people, Republicans pull every dirty trick in the book to try to sink it. So naturally, the deal wasn't good.

And look at the STUPID thing you write. One trillion for 10 million? What is that? Like a hundred thousand per person? Does that even make sense? Did I get that right 100,000 dollars per person? That's a lie. Even 10 thousand would be too much.

No wonder you resort to swearing. It's what you know. Oh, sorry. It's ALL you know.

Once again you dumb as a ******* retard rock, the 8 years Bush was President, the Senate was controlled for 4 years by DEMOCRATS. And the House was Controlled for 2 years by DEMOCRATS.

106th Congress (1999-2001)

Majority Party: Republican (55 seats)

Minority Party: Democrat (45 seats)

Other Parties: 0

Total Seats: 100

Note: As the 106th Congress began, the division was 55 Republican seats and 45 Democratic seats, but this changed to 54-45 on July 13, 1999 when Senator Bob Smith of New Hampshire switched from the Republican party to Independent status. On November 1, 1999, Smith announced his return to the Republican party, making the division once more 55 Republicans and 45 Democrats. Following the death of Senator Paul Coverdell (R-GA) on July 18, 2000, the balance shifted again, to 54 Republicans and 46 Democrats, when the governor appointed Zell Miller, a Democrat, to fill the vacancy.

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107th Congress (2001-2003)

Majority Party (Jan 3-20, 2001): Democrat (50 seats)

Minority Party: Republican (50 seats)

Other Parties: 0

Total Seats: 100

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Majority Party (Jan 20-June 6, 2001): Republican (50 seats)

Minority Party: Democrat (50 seats)

Other Parties: 0

Total Seats: 100

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Majority Party (June 6, 2001-November 12, 2002 --): Democrat (50 seats)

Minority Party: Republican (49 seats)

Other Parties: 1

Total Seats: 100

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Majority Party (November 12, 2002 - January 3, 2003): Republican (50 seats)

Minority Party: Democrat (48 seats)

Other Parties: 2

Total Seats: 100

Note: From January 3 to January 20, 2001, with the Senate divided evenly between the two parties, the Democrats held the majority due to the deciding vote of outgoing Democratic Vice President Al Gore. Senator Thomas A. Daschle served as majority leader at that time. Beginning on January 20, 2001, Republican Vice President Richard Cheney held the deciding vote, giving the majority to the Republicans. Senator Trent Lott resumed his position as majority leader on that date. On May 24, 2001, Senator James Jeffords of Vermont announced his switch from Republican to Independent status, effective June 6, 2001. Jeffords announced that he would caucus with the Democrats, giving the Democrats a one-seat advantage, changing control of the Senate from the Republicans back to the Democrats. Senator Thomas A. Daschle again became majority leader on June 6, 2001. Senator Paul D. Wellstone (D-MN) died on October 25, 2002, and Independent Dean Barkley was appointed to fill the vacancy. The November 5, 2002 election brought to office elected Senator James Talent (R-MO), replacing appointed Senator Jean Carnahan (D-MO), shifting balance once again to the Republicans -- but no reorganization was completed at that time since the Senate was out of session.

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108th Congress (2003-2005)

Majority Party: Republican (51 seats)

Minority Party: Democrat (48 seats)

Other Parties: Independent (1 seat)

Total Seats: 100

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109th Congress (2005-2007)

Majority Party: Republican (55 seats)

Minority Party: Democrat (44 seats)

Other Parties: Independent (1 seat)

Total Seats: 100

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110th Congress (2007-2009)

Majority Party: Democrat (49 seats)

Minority Party: Republican (49 seats)

Other Parties: 1Independent; 1 Independent Democrat

Total Seats: 100

Note:Senator Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut was reelected in 2006 as an independent candidate, and became an Independent Democrat. Senator Bernard Sanders of Vermont was elected as an Independent.

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111th Congress (2009-2011)

Majority Party: Democrat (58 seats)

Minority Party: Republican (40 seats)

Other Parties: 1 Independent; 1 Independent Democrat

Total Seats: 100

Note: Senator Arlen Specter was reelected in 2004 as a Republican, and became a Democrat on April 30, 2009. Senator Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut was reelected in 2006 as an independent candidate, and became an Independent Democrat. Senator Bernard Sanders of Vermont was elected in 2006 as an Independent.

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Four Years?

You don't even make this fun when you are always wrong.

 

[Dante]

Riddle me this, thou True Believer in the Democratic Process...
WHY didn't the "Democrats" in power utilize the only legal means by which socialized medicine can be adopted in this country?. Why didn't they call for a Constitutional Amendment if they're so sure that what they're doing is the will of the majority?

'' the only legal...'' where do you people go to learn how to make this kind of shit up?

WTF R U, The Riddler? And WTF did U do with Cat Woman?

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[Murf76]

Riddle me this, thou True Believer in the Democratic Process...
WHY didn't the "Democrats" in power utilize the only legal means by which socialized medicine can be adopted in this country?. Why didn't they call for a Constitutional Amendment if they're so sure that what they're doing is the will of the majority?

'' the only legal...'' where do you people go to learn how to make this kind of shit up?

WTF R U, The Riddler? And WTF did U do with Cat Woman?

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Is that the best answer you can come up with? Really?



At the bottom line, there is NO enumerated power for the federal government to run a healthcare system in the United States. But what we do have is an amendment process which would legitimize such a system.

It's clear that the goal of the Democrats in power is Socialized Medicine. Hell, some will even admit the proposed legislation would put us on that path. But instead of having an HONEST discussion with the people, instead of taking the LEGAL route of Constitutional Amendment... they have spent the last year trying to smuggle it in through the back door. This, despite their claims that the American People WANT it.

So, I ask again... if confidence is high among the Democrats in power that Socialist Medicine is what 'We The People' really want , why all the subterfuge??? Why not utilize the proscribed and legal method for authorizing federal power through the U.S. Constitution?

I suspect we both already know the answer to that. It's because they fully understand that what they're proposing is NOT the "will of the people" and would NOT pass muster under the process. Essentially, these "Democrats" don't believe in their own ideology of majority rule. They're hypocrites, bypassing the majority. They KNOW that in a representative government, the true "majority" is NOT the number of party members sent to Congress, how many 'D's and how many 'R's. The true "majority" is The People they represent, the will of the majority of constituents back home.

By your math, we would leave no "will" to the people. Our only input, the only decision allowed to us... would be which party to select every 2, 4, or 6 years. It would be the parties, not The People, who make policy decisions on the day-to-day. The Parties would run this country. Not the sovereign citizens. Our choices would be limited to whether we most agree with the platform and agenda of Democrats or Republicans... and nothing else. We would be allowed no opinion on issues which we might differ from the party line.

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for lunch". Our founders knew that. They knew that pure democracy results in mob rule... the majority tyrannizing the minority. That's why they gave us a Republic. They gave us a framework of Law; checks and balances, with representative democracy to be used upon that framework.

IOW, Democracy can only be exercised WITHIN the framework of proscribed Law. It is not authorized outside of it. Congress cannot simply assume a new power on its own majority vote. They need a Constitutional amendment, which is easy enough to get when they REALLY have the "will of the people" behind them.

Your Socialist Dems in Congress KNOW that what they're doing isn't the "will of the people". That's why they bypassed the legal procedure that would allow socialist medicine. They're smuggling, trying to change the "framework", trying to replace the will of our "majority" with their own. And then... whining about "Democracy" as they attempt to foist off the minority agenda of the majority in Congress upon the true majority of The People.

You do NOT have the "will of the majority" on your side. If you did... we'd be done by now.

 

[uscitizen]

Your premise is flawed. You are confusing the democratic process with the legislative process.

I'm hoping that the judicial process will kick-in and the healthcare bill will be declare unconstitutional. That would be a very good end to the healthcare debate.

You support Judicial activism?

 

[California Girl]

It's like Republicans are just, I don't know, just so, I want to say stupid, but the word isn't deep enough for what ails them. All the facts are RIGHT THERE and still, they don't get it.. It has to be some mental illness. Some defect of the mind. Some type of "determined idiocy".

so what the **** is your excuse than?....your so ******* stupid you cant tell the difference between a FAR-Right person and just a person who leans to the right..you lump everyone into the same pot......now that definatly shows intellect....guys like you and your Power Twin Zona are the best reasons not to be a Democrat....so keep it up ....your the best weapon the right has...

Harry, if rdean had his way, everyone who isn't a rabid socialist lover would lose the right to vote. That's how much rdean loves our republic.

 

[The Rabbi]

Your premise is flawed. You are confusing the democratic process with the legislative process.

I'm hoping that the judicial process will kick-in and the healthcare bill will be declare unconstitutional. That would be a very good end to the healthcare debate.

You support Judicial activism?

That isn't judicial activism. That is the proper role of the judiciary as arbiter of the constitution's meaning and a check on popular government.

 

[jillian]

Actually, it IS judicial activism because it interferes with something voted upon by the legislature.

The right thinks anything is activism that doesn't impose its political views on the law.

And yes, it is the appropriate role of the court to determine what is unconstitutional... like laws that prohibit reproductive choice.

Maybe someday the Court will even do its job and prevent discrimination against gays

 

[Oldandtired]

Your premise is flawed. You are confusing the democratic process with the legislative process.

I'm hoping that the judicial process will kick-in and the healthcare bill will be declare unconstitutional. That would be a very good end to the healthcare debate.

You support Judicial activism?

Judicial activism?

I need to ask you something...and please dont be insulted.....

But....

Do you have any idea whatsoever about the democratic process as it is designed and how it works?

I mean....judicial activism? Where are you from? Another planet or something?

Jeez....where does this board find these hacks?

 

[Dante]

State AGs are mobilizing as we speak to urge just that outcome. Then watch the Left scream about subverting the democratic process.
Oops, the left opposes this piece of shit legislation too.

so you support GOP partisan hacks wasting tax payer money and government time on frivolous lawsuits meant to shore up the wingnut base?

go figure

I support efforts to enforce the U.S. COnstitution, something the Left is in total contempt of. Yes, it is a serious question, Nancy.

delusional thinking will not make a good case in the courts. let us see if they really bring a case forward that the courts agree to hear....or...

let us see if your chain is being pulled by your leaders who are using your ignorance to their benefit.

 

[Dante]

That's because we all be a bunch of Un-American Nazis. Well that's what Nancy Pelosi calls us anyway. Joking aside,you haven't proven that Conservatives have Contempt & Hatred of the Democratic process. You may disagree with their politics but you have not proven that they hate the Democratic process.

During the last few decades, at every step during GOP rule, the GOP has tried to interfer with the democratic process.

It actually just sounds like you yourself have an awful lot of Contempt & Hatred for anyone who disagrees with you politically. So i guess i could ask you...When did Liberal Contempt & Hatred of the Democratic process become so acceptable? It really does work both ways if we are to buy into your twisted premise. Oh well,that's how i see it ayway. Good luck with that though.

Leftists have contempt and hatred too. But liberals? It is anathema to liberaklism.

Liberals defend upopular expressions and actions because we believe in the principles on which our nation was founded.

ACLU?

 

[Dante]

When did conservative hatred and contempt of the Democratic process become so acceptable?

Try convincing anyone with even an ounce of integrity and fairness that conservatives have shown respect for the democratic process.

When they were in power recently they would not even allow a bill sponsored by a Dem to reach the House Floor unless it had a few GOP cosponsors. They had come to power with W who promosed a bipartanship agenda...uniter not divider.

Then Obama and the Dems win everything and the conservatives use the GOP to block every little thing and even go so far as to question the elligibility of and citizenship status of the duly elected President of the United States of America.

If this isn't one example of contempt and hatred of the democratic process and the principles on which this nation was founded, I don't know what is.

Mitch McConnell was confronted with the fact that his party and he were complaining about things they themselves had been doing only a year ago and he laughed.

The list of shit goes on....

Conservative contempt has nothing to do with the democratic process. It has to do with fascists calling themselves democrats.

naw, the fascist call themselves conservative and progressive.

poor gunny, blind as well as dumb.

 

[Republican]

America goes to hell with Obama.
Sarah Palin would be a good president.