Compassion and Conservatism

11. Sometimes the misuse of ā€˜compassionā€™ is at odds with justice.

ā€œAn ancient proverb teaches, ā€œTo spare the ravening leopard is an act of injustice to the sheep.ā€ That is why the Rabbis spoke of mercy and justice as the two necessary attributes of Godā€”and therefore of a decent society.ā€ Dennis Prager

Prager continues:

ā€¦both are necessary for the world to function. If the world were ruled solely by justice, it would be destroyed, as it almost was during the time of Noah (Genesis 6:11-22)ā€” where only Elohim is used to describe God. However, if the world were ruled solely by mercy, there would be no room for justice, and such a world, too, would cease to function. An overabundance of mercy means an increase in injustice. If, for example, mercy were extended to all murderers, their victims and the victimsā€™ loved ones would suffer a terrible injustice (hence the Midrashic teaching, ā€œthose who show mercy to the cruel end up being cruel to those who deserve mercyā€).

And, of course, if everyone knew they would receive only mercy, not justice, no matter what crime they committed, the amount of crime in society would increase exponentially.
 
ā€¦.go together like carrot and peas.



1.Americans are a generous peopleā€¦.no nation on the face of the earth gives as much in voluntary charity as Americans do.

ā€œWe usually hear about charity in the media when there is a terrible disaster. For example, after Hurricane Katrina, we heard about the incredible outpouring of private generosity that amounted to $6 billion. What gets less attention is that Americans routinely give that much to charity every week. Last year Americans gave $300 billion to charity. To put this into perspective, that is almost twice what we spent on consumer electronics equipmentā€”equipment including cell phones, iPods and DVD players. Americans gave three times as much to charity last year as we spent on gambling and ten times as much as we spent on professional sports. America is by far the most charitable country in the world. There is no other country that comes close.ā€
404 Not Found - Hillsdale College




2. While I said ā€˜Americans,ā€™ a more accurate description would be conservative Americans.

"'Tis the season for givingā€”and it turns out that conservatives and like-minded welfare skeptics more than hold their own when it comes to charity. So says Arthur C. Brooks in his new book Who Really Cares?: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism.

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Arthur Brooks, a public policy professor at Syracuse University, sums up his own results thusly: Giving is dictated by "strong families, church attendance, earned income (as opposed to state-subsidized income), and the belief that individuals, not government, offer the best solution to social ills--all of these factors determine how likely one is to give."

"There's something incredibly satisfying, inherently, about voluntary giving,"...



3. ā€œCompassion is not, strictly speaking, a virtue. As a passion, it is disconnected from reason, and often at odds with it. Hence compassion is an unreliable guide to justiceā€¦
ā€¦when compassion is elevated to a principle of political philosophy, it is incompatible with a conservatism of limited government.ā€ George Will, ā€œThe Conservative Sensibility,ā€ p. 524




4. Now, before any make the error of believing that socialism is compassion, and is Bible-bases....it isn't.
So.....socialism endorsed in the Bible????
Not hardly.

An accurate understanding of the Bible requires the distinction between 'redistribution' and 'generosity.'

"Some people conclude from these verses that the Bible supports government-enforced wealth redistribution. But what these verses really show is that the Bible advocates generosity.
These are two very different concepts.
Generosity springs from free will....not force, coercion, or threats.


The motivation to give and share originates in compassion, as 1 John 3:17 indicatesā€”but there is choice involved.

With socialism, it is the opposite.
Redistribution of wealth is always by force of government. The government simply uses its overwhelming power to take what it thinks is ā€œfairā€ from the ā€œgivers.ā€ Is God a Socialist?
Generosity is based on choice....on free will....the cornerstone of Judeo-Christian tradition.
Not so with any of these six: Socialism, Liberalism, Communism, et al



5. And this is the face of government coercion.....

Under the Bolsheviks, predecessors of the Democrats, the dynasty with which Franklin Roosevelt felt comradeship, slaughter was so omnipresent that corpse-disposal actually became a problem.

There was resistance to the Lefts mandate of collectivism, especially in the Ukraine.
September 11, 1932, Stalin wrote to his assistant, 'We must take steps so we do not lose the Ukraine.' So, 1932-1933, all food supplies in the Ukraine were confiscated.

Those who tried to leave were shot, those who remained, starved to death. Men, women, children. They died tortuously slowly.
NKVD squads collected the dead. They received 200 grams of bread for every dead body they delivered; often they didn't wait until the victim was dead.



There are those with compassion, and those who lie to claim they have it.
And you know which is which.


you are truly deranged.


all of your posts boil down to "ALL democrats and liberals are our ENEMIES and we MUST KILL THEM to save our CHRISTIAN country!"


I don't see any compassion from you

you are just a trump whore who dreams of slaughtering people


"....all of your posts boil down to "ALL democrats and liberals are our ENEMIES..."

Gee.....glad you brought that up.


Now, watch me prove it.

The Democrat Partyā€™s agenda today is to ā€˜release the beastā€™ that is the worst elements of human nature.
That is the explanation for that party actually admitting to this agenda: The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists, and anti-Semitismā€¦ the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.



The Democrat Party feels strong enough to embrace the evil side of constituents, and make the envious, the greedy, the criminal, feel assuaged.


I'm pretty sure that indicates evil...ā€¦and we are put on this earth to fight evil.
Hom skoolin has really polluted your mind. I feel sorry for you that you need to hate so ferociously. How sad.


Me?

Ivy League grad.

What'd you say you were?
I have a PHD from Harvard. Check.



Everyone who has seen you posts knows you have a GED from Compton.
Everyone knows that hom skoolerz can't get into an Ivy League school.
 
ā€¦.go together like carrot and peas.



1.Americans are a generous peopleā€¦.no nation on the face of the earth gives as much in voluntary charity as Americans do.

ā€œWe usually hear about charity in the media when there is a terrible disaster. For example, after Hurricane Katrina, we heard about the incredible outpouring of private generosity that amounted to $6 billion. What gets less attention is that Americans routinely give that much to charity every week. Last year Americans gave $300 billion to charity. To put this into perspective, that is almost twice what we spent on consumer electronics equipmentā€”equipment including cell phones, iPods and DVD players. Americans gave three times as much to charity last year as we spent on gambling and ten times as much as we spent on professional sports. America is by far the most charitable country in the world. There is no other country that comes close.ā€
404 Not Found - Hillsdale College




2. While I said ā€˜Americans,ā€™ a more accurate description would be conservative Americans.

"'Tis the season for givingā€”and it turns out that conservatives and like-minded welfare skeptics more than hold their own when it comes to charity. So says Arthur C. Brooks in his new book Who Really Cares?: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism.

View attachment 390886

Arthur Brooks, a public policy professor at Syracuse University, sums up his own results thusly: Giving is dictated by "strong families, church attendance, earned income (as opposed to state-subsidized income), and the belief that individuals, not government, offer the best solution to social ills--all of these factors determine how likely one is to give."

"There's something incredibly satisfying, inherently, about voluntary giving,"...



3. ā€œCompassion is not, strictly speaking, a virtue. As a passion, it is disconnected from reason, and often at odds with it. Hence compassion is an unreliable guide to justiceā€¦
ā€¦when compassion is elevated to a principle of political philosophy, it is incompatible with a conservatism of limited government.ā€ George Will, ā€œThe Conservative Sensibility,ā€ p. 524




4. Now, before any make the error of believing that socialism is compassion, and is Bible-bases....it isn't.
So.....socialism endorsed in the Bible????
Not hardly.

An accurate understanding of the Bible requires the distinction between 'redistribution' and 'generosity.'

"Some people conclude from these verses that the Bible supports government-enforced wealth redistribution. But what these verses really show is that the Bible advocates generosity.
These are two very different concepts.
Generosity springs from free will....not force, coercion, or threats.


The motivation to give and share originates in compassion, as 1 John 3:17 indicatesā€”but there is choice involved.

With socialism, it is the opposite.
Redistribution of wealth is always by force of government. The government simply uses its overwhelming power to take what it thinks is ā€œfairā€ from the ā€œgivers.ā€ Is God a Socialist?
Generosity is based on choice....on free will....the cornerstone of Judeo-Christian tradition.
Not so with any of these six: Socialism, Liberalism, Communism, et al



5. And this is the face of government coercion.....

Under the Bolsheviks, predecessors of the Democrats, the dynasty with which Franklin Roosevelt felt comradeship, slaughter was so omnipresent that corpse-disposal actually became a problem.

There was resistance to the Lefts mandate of collectivism, especially in the Ukraine.
September 11, 1932, Stalin wrote to his assistant, 'We must take steps so we do not lose the Ukraine.' So, 1932-1933, all food supplies in the Ukraine were confiscated.

Those who tried to leave were shot, those who remained, starved to death. Men, women, children. They died tortuously slowly.
NKVD squads collected the dead. They received 200 grams of bread for every dead body they delivered; often they didn't wait until the victim was dead.



There are those with compassion, and those who lie to claim they have it.
And you know which is which.


you are truly deranged.


all of your posts boil down to "ALL democrats and liberals are our ENEMIES and we MUST KILL THEM to save our CHRISTIAN country!"


I don't see any compassion from you

you are just a trump whore who dreams of slaughtering people


"....all of your posts boil down to "ALL democrats and liberals are our ENEMIES..."

Gee.....glad you brought that up.


Now, watch me prove it.

The Democrat Partyā€™s agenda today is to ā€˜release the beastā€™ that is the worst elements of human nature.
That is the explanation for that party actually admitting to this agenda: The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists, and anti-Semitismā€¦ the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.



The Democrat Party feels strong enough to embrace the evil side of constituents, and make the envious, the greedy, the criminal, feel assuaged.


I'm pretty sure that indicates evil...ā€¦and we are put on this earth to fight evil.
Hom skoolin has really polluted your mind. I feel sorry for you that you need to hate so ferociously. How sad.


Me?

Ivy League grad.

What'd you say you were?
I have a PHD from Harvard. Check.



Everyone who has seen you posts knows you have a GED from Compton.
Everyone knows that hom skoolerz can't get into an Ivy League school.



And here we have one more of those resentful, unproductive freeloaders who never bring anything worthwhile to a thread.

This one.... as full of effluvia as a sock is full of foot.
 
12. Releasing mass murders a an example of compassion????



ā€œā€¦the reaction of Christian leaders to Scotland's decision to release Abdel Basset Ali al-Megrahi. Archbishop Timothy Dolan, the leader of New York's 2 million Catholics, said it was "a sad and perplexing mistake."

"While as a follower of Jesus Christ I believe in mercy, I also believe that mercy must always be tempered with justice," the Archbishop said in a statement. " Mercy can be demonstrated in ways other than by releasing a man responsible for so much pain, suffering, and death. Those who lost loved ones also deserve mercy and justice. Finally we must consider that the release of this man could encourage others to engage in similar acts of terrorism in the future which would be a tragic result."


The leader of New York's Episcopal Diocese also condemned his release: "It seems to me to be a truly terrible misunderstanding of what compassion is," said Bishop Mark Sisk. "It truly undercut the sensibilities of those who are the survivors. And in that sense, it is, I think horrific."

"'I have great difficulty with this decision," the Bishop added. "'This is a man that according to the courts was found guilty of masterminding a horrendous crime. He was given a life sentence with a minimum of 27 years. He should have had to abide by that sentence and to abridge that does not seems to have been a just thing to have done.'"

It would appropriate for Jew, Gentile, and atheist alike to ponder the universal truth of this ancient Jewish Medrash: "He who is merciful to the cruel will become cruel to the merciful."
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/...the_cruel_spawns_cruelty_to_the_merciful.html
 
13. Founders studied many civilizations and societies before constructing the majesty of America. And it largely lived up to its challenges ā€¦until the 32nd President. Then, the Constitution was no longer the instruction manual, the ā€˜law of the land.ā€™

We devolved back to a king, government-as-god, the devaluation of the God-given rights of the Declaration of independence.


Conservatives are modern-day Jeremiahs, with warning of doom, reminders of what our Founders gave usā€¦..and the demand that we return to same.


ā€œA useable past will not be present, however, unless conservatives make it so. Their challenge is to make the Founders constantly consultedā€¦

Thoughtful Americans who revisit the great arguments of their nationā€™s political tradition will be rewardedā€¦ā€ George Will, Op.Cit., p. 536



We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time. T.S.Eliot
T. S. Eliot's "Little Gidding"
 
Conservatives would save us from doom, to bring us back to better ways we had before?



We are certainly heading to crises ahead, and things really worsening.

We need a lot of things to be different. That would include compassion more generally shown, with helping any others in need. Like Jesus was doing, being a model for us. And we especially need more sustainable ways, not exploiting all that we can from the world, to have better stewardship here. We can individually choose ways even while America is not all choosing those ways now, for what is better.
 
Conservatives would save us from doom, to bring us back to better ways we had before?



We are certainly heading to crises ahead, and things really worsening.

We need a lot of things to be different. That would include compassion more generally shown, with helping any others in need. Like Jesus was doing, being a model for us. And we especially need more sustainable ways, not exploiting all that we can from the world, to have better stewardship here. We can individually choose ways even while America is not all choosing those ways now, for what is better.



".... with helping any others in need."

In the Democrat's Green New Deal, it specifies providing financial security for those who don't care to work.

Is that the sort of 'need' you have in mind?
 
Conservatives would save us from doom, to bring us back to better ways we had before?



We are certainly heading to crises ahead, and things really worsening.

We need a lot of things to be different. That would include compassion more generally shown, with helping any others in need. Like Jesus was doing, being a model for us. And we especially need more sustainable ways, not exploiting all that we can from the world, to have better stewardship here. We can individually choose ways even while America is not all choosing those ways now, for what is better.



".... with helping any others in need."

In the Democrat's Green New Deal, it specifies providing financial security for those who don't care to work.

Is that the sort of 'need' you have in mind?
I really don't wish to work, so that others who don't wish to, don't have to.
 
Conservatives would save us from doom, to bring us back to better ways we had before?



We are certainly heading to crises ahead, and things really worsening.

We need a lot of things to be different. That would include compassion more generally shown, with helping any others in need. Like Jesus was doing, being a model for us. And we especially need more sustainable ways, not exploiting all that we can from the world, to have better stewardship here. We can individually choose ways even while America is not all choosing those ways now, for what is better.



".... with helping any others in need."

In the Democrat's Green New Deal, it specifies providing financial security for those who don't care to work.

Is that the sort of 'need' you have in mind?
I really don't wish to work, so that others who don't wish to, don't have to.

At least not under government coercion.

In fact, the Bible is clear that people should be rewarded by what they contribute to society.

The Bible is specific about what God expects of able-bodied members of society. In 2 Thessalonians 3:10, Paul said, ā€œIf anyone will not work, neither shall he eatā€





The Bible is filled with many such admonitions to work and provide for your family. ā€œBut if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidelā€ (1 Timothy 5:8)." Is God a Socialist?
 
Conservatives would save us from doom, to bring us back to better ways we had before?



We are certainly heading to crises ahead, and things really worsening.

We need a lot of things to be different. That would include compassion more generally shown, with helping any others in need. Like Jesus was doing, being a model for us. And we especially need more sustainable ways, not exploiting all that we can from the world, to have better stewardship here. We can individually choose ways even while America is not all choosing those ways now, for what is better.



".... with helping any others in need."

In the Democrat's Green New Deal, it specifies providing financial security for those who don't care to work.

Is that the sort of 'need' you have in mind?

You just did not get what the sites referred to were showing. There would be threat to the democracy with the administration remaining, which many see. There are crises ahead from the reckless disregard. Whether you want it recognized or not, this country is not governed by the Bible, it has been a democracy. And there are people who work, and become disabled or in need of medication, or otherwise lose work, and it may happen to many. There is nothing godly about being against assistance and being in favor of taking away benefits from people in need depending on the benefits. Using verses that you see, directed at a church and not to governments, to justify your position for taking benefits away from those people in need, according to your own judgment, is not right, nor is it like anything from Christ.
 
Conservatives would save us from doom, to bring us back to better ways we had before?



We are certainly heading to crises ahead, and things really worsening.

We need a lot of things to be different. That would include compassion more generally shown, with helping any others in need. Like Jesus was doing, being a model for us. And we especially need more sustainable ways, not exploiting all that we can from the world, to have better stewardship here. We can individually choose ways even while America is not all choosing those ways now, for what is better.



".... with helping any others in need."

In the Democrat's Green New Deal, it specifies providing financial security for those who don't care to work.

Is that the sort of 'need' you have in mind?

You just did not get what the sites referred to were showing. There would be threat to the democracy with the administration remaining, which many see. There are crises ahead from the reckless disregard. Whether you want it recognized or not, this country is not governed by the Bible, it has been a democracy. And there are people who work, and become disabled or in need of medication, or otherwise lose work, and it may happen to many. There is nothing godly about being against assistance and being in favor of taking away benefits from people in need depending on the benefits. Using verses that you see, directed at a church and not to governments, to justify your position for taking benefits away from those people in need, according to your own judgment, is not right, nor is it like anything from Christ.

"And there are people who work, and become disabled or in need of medication, or otherwise lose work, and it may happen to many."


That's not in any way close to what the Green New Deal says.

You should read more carefully.
 
Is this the thread about the generosity of people who throw it in yer face for spite and not caring or compassionate about the mean things they say?.
 
Well nevermind what Jesus ever said, and disregard people needing medicine they did not get and died for that, because we don't want any who are undeserving to have any aid to them. So this is why I have not gone back to fellowship with any of those of the cult of political Christianity. I myself will stick with the teaching of the Bible and the things Jesus said.
 
ā€¦.go together like carrot and peas.



1.Americans are a generous peopleā€¦.no nation on the face of the earth gives as much in voluntary charity as Americans do.

ā€œWe usually hear about charity in the media when there is a terrible disaster. For example, after Hurricane Katrina, we heard about the incredible outpouring of private generosity that amounted to $6 billion. What gets less attention is that Americans routinely give that much to charity every week. Last year Americans gave $300 billion to charity. To put this into perspective, that is almost twice what we spent on consumer electronics equipmentā€”equipment including cell phones, iPods and DVD players. Americans gave three times as much to charity last year as we spent on gambling and ten times as much as we spent on professional sports. America is by far the most charitable country in the world. There is no other country that comes close.ā€
404 Not Found - Hillsdale College




2. While I said ā€˜Americans,ā€™ a more accurate description would be conservative Americans.

"'Tis the season for givingā€”and it turns out that conservatives and like-minded welfare skeptics more than hold their own when it comes to charity. So says Arthur C. Brooks in his new book Who Really Cares?: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism.

View attachment 390886

Arthur Brooks, a public policy professor at Syracuse University, sums up his own results thusly: Giving is dictated by "strong families, church attendance, earned income (as opposed to state-subsidized income), and the belief that individuals, not government, offer the best solution to social ills--all of these factors determine how likely one is to give."

"There's something incredibly satisfying, inherently, about voluntary giving,"...



3. ā€œCompassion is not, strictly speaking, a virtue. As a passion, it is disconnected from reason, and often at odds with it. Hence compassion is an unreliable guide to justiceā€¦
ā€¦when compassion is elevated to a principle of political philosophy, it is incompatible with a conservatism of limited government.ā€ George Will, ā€œThe Conservative Sensibility,ā€ p. 524




4. Now, before any make the error of believing that socialism is compassion, and is Bible-bases....it isn't.
So.....socialism endorsed in the Bible????
Not hardly.

An accurate understanding of the Bible requires the distinction between 'redistribution' and 'generosity.'

"Some people conclude from these verses that the Bible supports government-enforced wealth redistribution. But what these verses really show is that the Bible advocates generosity.
These are two very different concepts.
Generosity springs from free will....not force, coercion, or threats.


The motivation to give and share originates in compassion, as 1 John 3:17 indicatesā€”but there is choice involved.

With socialism, it is the opposite.
Redistribution of wealth is always by force of government. The government simply uses its overwhelming power to take what it thinks is ā€œfairā€ from the ā€œgivers.ā€ Is God a Socialist?
Generosity is based on choice....on free will....the cornerstone of Judeo-Christian tradition.
Not so with any of these six: Socialism, Liberalism, Communism, et al



5. And this is the face of government coercion.....

Under the Bolsheviks, predecessors of the Democrats, the dynasty with which Franklin Roosevelt felt comradeship, slaughter was so omnipresent that corpse-disposal actually became a problem.

There was resistance to the Lefts mandate of collectivism, especially in the Ukraine.
September 11, 1932, Stalin wrote to his assistant, 'We must take steps so we do not lose the Ukraine.' So, 1932-1933, all food supplies in the Ukraine were confiscated.

Those who tried to leave were shot, those who remained, starved to death. Men, women, children. They died tortuously slowly.
NKVD squads collected the dead. They received 200 grams of bread for every dead body they delivered; often they didn't wait until the victim was dead.



There are those with compassion, and those who lie to claim they have it.
And you know which is which.



And yet another advantage for being conservative/religious in the time of the Wuhan Red Death Hoax.....

"Frequent Churchgoers Are the Only Group in the US to Avoid Downward Mental Health Trend in 2020

Americanā€™s latest assessment of their mental health is worse than it has been at any point in the last two decades, apart from those who frequently attend church, according to a Gallup Poll released on Monday.

Since 2001, Gallup has asked Americans whether their mental or emotional wellbeing is excellent, good, only fair, or poor. During this time, those rating their mental health as excellent or good ranged from 81% to 89%. This year, however, that figure dropped to 76%.

In fact, the only group in the U.S. that did not experience a mental health decline are those who frequently attended church services. Forty-two percent in 2019 rose to 46% in 2020. "



In fairness, this cannot apply to Democrat voters, as there is no aspect of their existence related to the term "mental ( of or relating to the mind specifically )."
 

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