Compared to other groups, conservatives have least confidence in science

You don't get a reputation for being "anti science" unless you really ARE "anti science".

Republicans are "anti science". The closest they come to denial is saying, "We don't hate science, just scientists". It's like hating doctors but loving medicine. Or hating soldiers but loving the military. They kinda go "hand in hand".

Obama has a reputation for being a socialist and a Muslim. Using your logic, we can now settle the issue, because you have chimed in and said that he wouldn't have that reputation if it wasn't true.

Hey, Derp -- that's some of that logic stuff that gives you so much trouble.

Not really. That "reputation" comes from the American right wing. The most universally laughed at political party in the entire world. As a group, the vast majority believe that "Noah's Ark" is much more believable than evolution. In fact, they insist the Grand Canyon is "evidence" of the "Great Flood". I can prove it's not in less than 100 words.
 
You do not give the scentific community the respect it deserves.

That means you hate sceince for not agreeing with your poltical postions.

YOU are the people injecting poltics into sceince

The scientific community has more of my respect than the idiots that are in charge of it.

Hilarious. "Science is good", but not the scientists who discover it. Of course, the right wing knows more about science than those dumb old scientists ever will. It's so obvious.

I did not say anything about the scientists, I called the people in charge of the NSF idiots. Scientists don't go around trying to apply science to criminal sentencing, they apply it to things it applies to. Idiots give people money to pretend to apply science to things that have nothing to do with science. which makes smart people, who almost always seem to be conservatives, scoff.
 
Obama has a reputation for being a socialist and a Muslim. Using your logic, we can now settle the issue, because you have chimed in and said that he wouldn't have that reputation if it wasn't true.

Hey, Derp -- that's some of that logic stuff that gives you so much trouble.

Not really. That "reputation" comes from the American right wing. The most universally laughed at political party in the entire world. As a group, the vast majority believe that "Noah's Ark" is much more believable than evolution. In fact, they insist the Grand Canyon is "evidence" of the "Great Flood". I can prove it's not in less than 100 words.
The only thing you can "prove" is that a polluted Chinese river is in Texas.
 
Hey, Derp -- that's some of that logic stuff that gives you so much trouble.

Not really. That "reputation" comes from the American right wing. The most universally laughed at political party in the entire world. As a group, the vast majority believe that "Noah's Ark" is much more believable than evolution. In fact, they insist the Grand Canyon is "evidence" of the "Great Flood". I can prove it's not in less than 100 words.
The only thing you can "prove" is that a polluted Chinese river is in Texas.

It was in The Onion, right?
 
Not really. That "reputation" comes from the American right wing. The most universally laughed at political party in the entire world. As a group, the vast majority believe that "Noah's Ark" is much more believable than evolution. In fact, they insist the Grand Canyon is "evidence" of the "Great Flood". I can prove it's not in less than 100 words.
The only thing you can "prove" is that a polluted Chinese river is in Texas.

It was in The Onion, right?
You hush. The Onion is a legitimate, respected news source.

Oh, and the South Park guys wrote a serious musical about Mormonism. Romney was outraged.

Right, Derpy?
 
"We don't hate science, we hate scientists".

You gotta admit it's pretty damn funny.

Thought it was especially hilarious that on another thread, a right winger tried to convince me a guy who had studied "computer science, television and writing fiction" is a fully qualified "scientist". The argument was "Albert Einstein didn't go to college". Is it any wonder right wingers don't trust science?

First, they don't know what a scientist is and second "it's too hard" and third, without any education (or even with) shimmering a man into being from a pile of dirt sounds just as "real" as say, a "black hole" or "evolution", especially if you refuse to look at the data or don't understand the concept.
OMG, "Einstein didn't go to college."
Did some con actually say that?
 
"We don't hate science, we hate scientists".

You gotta admit it's pretty damn funny.

Thought it was especially hilarious that on another thread, a right winger tried to convince me a guy who had studied "computer science, television and writing fiction" is a fully qualified "scientist". The argument was "Albert Einstein didn't go to college". Is it any wonder right wingers don't trust science?

First, they don't know what a scientist is and second "it's too hard" and third, without any education (or even with) shimmering a man into being from a pile of dirt sounds just as "real" as say, a "black hole" or "evolution", especially if you refuse to look at the data or don't understand the concept.
OMG, "Einstein didn't go to college."
Did some con actually say that?

I actually said that to make the point that education is not what made Einstain smart.

By the way, he didn't go to college, he went to the equivalent of ITT Tech.
 
"We don't hate science, we hate scientists".

You gotta admit it's pretty damn funny.

Thought it was especially hilarious that on another thread, a right winger tried to convince me a guy who had studied "computer science, television and writing fiction" is a fully qualified "scientist". The argument was "Albert Einstein didn't go to college". Is it any wonder right wingers don't trust science?

First, they don't know what a scientist is and second "it's too hard" and third, without any education (or even with) shimmering a man into being from a pile of dirt sounds just as "real" as say, a "black hole" or "evolution", especially if you refuse to look at the data or don't understand the concept.
OMG, "Einstein didn't go to college."
Did some con actually say that?

I actually said that to make the point that education is not what made Einstain smart.

By the way, he didn't go to college, he went to the equivalent of ITT Tech.
Dr. Albert Einstein Dies in Sleep at 76; World Mourns Loss of Great Scientist
<excerpt>
Albert Einstein was born at Ulm, Wuerttemberg, Germany, on March 14, 1879. His boyhood was spent in Munich, where his father, who owned electro-technical works, had settled. The family migrated to Italy in 1894, and Albert was sent to a cantonal school at Aarau in Switzerland. He attended lectures while supporting himself by teaching mathematics and physics at the Polytechnic School at Zurich until 1900. Finally, after a year as tutor at Schaffthausen, he was appointed examiner of patents at the Patent Office at Bern where, having become a Swiss citizen, he remained until 1909.

It was in this period that he obtained his Ph.D. degree at the University of Zurich and published his first papers on physical subjects.

These were so highly esteemed that in 1909 he was appointed Extraordinary Professor of Theoretical Physics at the University of Zurich. In 1911 he accepted the Chair of Physics at Prague, only to be induced to return to his own Polytechnic School at Zurich as full professor the next year. In 1913 a special position was created for him in Berlin as director of the Kaiser Wilhelm Physical Institute. He was elected a member of the Royal Prussian Academy of Sciences and received a stipend sufficient to enable him to devote all his time to research without any restrictions or routine duties.
 
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OMG, "Einstein didn't go to college."
Did some con actually say that?

I actually said that to make the point that education is not what made Einstain smart.

By the way, he didn't go to college, he went to the equivalent of ITT Tech.
Dr. Albert Einstein Dies in Sleep at 76; World Mourns Loss of Great Scientist
<excerpt>
Albert Einstein was born at Ulm, Wuerttemberg, Germany, on March 14, 1879. His boyhood was spent in Munich, where his father, who owned electro-technical works, had settled. The family migrated to Italy in 1894, and Albert was sent to a cantonal school at Aarau in Switzerland. He attended lectures while supporting himself by teaching mathematics and physics at the Polytechnic School at Zurich until 1900. Finally, after a year as tutor at Schaffthausen, he was appointed examiner of patents at the Patent Office at Bern where, having become a Swiss citizen, he remained until 1909.

It was in this period that he obtained his Ph.D. degree at the University of Zurich and published his first papers on physical subjects.

These were so highly esteemed that in 1909 he was appointed Extraordinary Professor of Theoretical Physics at the University of Zurich. In 1911 he accepted the Chair of Physics at Prague, only to be induced to return to his own Polytechnic School at Zurich as full professor the next year. In 1913 a special position was created for him in Berlin as director of the Kaiser Wilhelm Physical Institute. He was elected a member of the Royal Prussian Academy of Sciences and received a stipend sufficient to enable him to devote all his time to research without any restrictions or routine duties.

To "Windburn" all schools are the same. A place "elitists" to learn to be "snobs".

At least it "owned up". Rare in Republicans circles.
 
What's especially hilarious is if you go through these threads, Republicans go on about the US having so much oil, we just have to develop the technology to make developing those sources feasible.

Do they understand who develops that technology? Apparently not.

The same with, well, just about everything. They seem to suggest that scientists do nothing, but however new technologies are developed, it must be someone besides "scientists".
 
OMG, "Einstein didn't go to college."
Did some con actually say that?

I actually said that to make the point that education is not what made Einstain smart.

By the way, he didn't go to college, he went to the equivalent of ITT Tech.
Dr. Albert Einstein Dies in Sleep at 76; World Mourns Loss of Great Scientist
<excerpt>
Albert Einstein was born at Ulm, Wuerttemberg, Germany, on March 14, 1879. His boyhood was spent in Munich, where his father, who owned electro-technical works, had settled. The family migrated to Italy in 1894, and Albert was sent to a cantonal school at Aarau in Switzerland. He attended lectures while supporting himself by teaching mathematics and physics at the Polytechnic School at Zurich until 1900. Finally, after a year as tutor at Schaffthausen, he was appointed examiner of patents at the Patent Office at Bern where, having become a Swiss citizen, he remained until 1909.

It was in this period that he obtained his Ph.D. degree at the University of Zurich and published his first papers on physical subjects.

These were so highly esteemed that in 1909 he was appointed Extraordinary Professor of Theoretical Physics at the University of Zurich. In 1911 he accepted the Chair of Physics at Prague, only to be induced to return to his own Polytechnic School at Zurich as full professor the next year. In 1913 a special position was created for him in Berlin as director of the Kaiser Wilhelm Physical Institute. He was elected a member of the Royal Prussian Academy of Sciences and received a stipend sufficient to enable him to devote all his time to research without any restrictions or routine duties.

You do realize that does not actually prove me wrong, don't you? He didn't go to college, he got a degree. In fact, the exact same year he got his PhD, he published 4 additional ground breaking papers, one of which was his paper on special relativity, which should tell you more than I ever could about his college studies.

You should try writing 5 different PhD level papers in one year sometime, and use the least important one to actually get a degree.
 
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I actually said that to make the point that education is not what made Einstain smart.

By the way, he didn't go to college, he went to the equivalent of ITT Tech.
Dr. Albert Einstein Dies in Sleep at 76; World Mourns Loss of Great Scientist
<excerpt>
Albert Einstein was born at Ulm, Wuerttemberg, Germany, on March 14, 1879. His boyhood was spent in Munich, where his father, who owned electro-technical works, had settled. The family migrated to Italy in 1894, and Albert was sent to a cantonal school at Aarau in Switzerland. He attended lectures while supporting himself by teaching mathematics and physics at the Polytechnic School at Zurich until 1900. Finally, after a year as tutor at Schaffthausen, he was appointed examiner of patents at the Patent Office at Bern where, having become a Swiss citizen, he remained until 1909.

It was in this period that he obtained his Ph.D. degree at the University of Zurich and published his first papers on physical subjects.

These were so highly esteemed that in 1909 he was appointed Extraordinary Professor of Theoretical Physics at the University of Zurich. In 1911 he accepted the Chair of Physics at Prague, only to be induced to return to his own Polytechnic School at Zurich as full professor the next year. In 1913 a special position was created for him in Berlin as director of the Kaiser Wilhelm Physical Institute. He was elected a member of the Royal Prussian Academy of Sciences and received a stipend sufficient to enable him to devote all his time to research without any restrictions or routine duties.

You do realize that does not actually prove me wrong, don't you? He didn't go to college, he got a degree. In fact, the exact same year he got his PhD, he published 4 additional ground breaking papers, one of which was his paper on special relativity, which should tell you more than I ever could about his college studies.

You should try writing 5 different PhD level papers in one year sometime, and use the least important one to actually get a degree.

Were you also defending some guy who debunks science, saying he's a scientist? The guy had studied computer science in at a university in Utah. He studied television and wrote fiction? And you defended those "credentials"? That was you, right?
 
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Those right wingers sure can "spin".
 
What's especially hilarious is if you go through these threads, Republicans go on about the US having so much oil, we just have to develop the technology to make developing those sources feasible.

Do they understand who develops that technology? Apparently not.

The same with, well, just about everything. They seem to suggest that scientists do nothing, but however new technologies are developed, it must be someone besides "scientists".
You know how you can tell when Derp is lying?

He posts.
 
Dr. Albert Einstein Dies in Sleep at 76; World Mourns Loss of Great Scientist
<excerpt>
Albert Einstein was born at Ulm, Wuerttemberg, Germany, on March 14, 1879. His boyhood was spent in Munich, where his father, who owned electro-technical works, had settled. The family migrated to Italy in 1894, and Albert was sent to a cantonal school at Aarau in Switzerland. He attended lectures while supporting himself by teaching mathematics and physics at the Polytechnic School at Zurich until 1900. Finally, after a year as tutor at Schaffthausen, he was appointed examiner of patents at the Patent Office at Bern where, having become a Swiss citizen, he remained until 1909.

It was in this period that he obtained his Ph.D. degree at the University of Zurich and published his first papers on physical subjects.

These were so highly esteemed that in 1909 he was appointed Extraordinary Professor of Theoretical Physics at the University of Zurich. In 1911 he accepted the Chair of Physics at Prague, only to be induced to return to his own Polytechnic School at Zurich as full professor the next year. In 1913 a special position was created for him in Berlin as director of the Kaiser Wilhelm Physical Institute. He was elected a member of the Royal Prussian Academy of Sciences and received a stipend sufficient to enable him to devote all his time to research without any restrictions or routine duties.

You do realize that does not actually prove me wrong, don't you? He didn't go to college, he got a degree. In fact, the exact same year he got his PhD, he published 4 additional ground breaking papers, one of which was his paper on special relativity, which should tell you more than I ever could about his college studies.

You should try writing 5 different PhD level papers in one year sometime, and use the least important one to actually get a degree.

Were you also defending some guy who debunks science, saying he's a scientist? The guy had studied computer science in at a university in Utah. He studied television and wrote fiction? And you defended those "credentials"? That was you, right?

No, I was defending a guy who debunks ghosts and psychics. I wasn't aware those are sciences, unless you are a member of the AAAS, which is only 6% Republican.
 
You do realize that does not actually prove me wrong, don't you? He didn't go to college, he got a degree. In fact, the exact same year he got his PhD, he published 4 additional ground breaking papers, one of which was his paper on special relativity, which should tell you more than I ever could about his college studies.

You should try writing 5 different PhD level papers in one year sometime, and use the least important one to actually get a degree.

Were you also defending some guy who debunks science, saying he's a scientist? The guy had studied computer science in at a university in Utah. He studied television and wrote fiction? And you defended those "credentials"? That was you, right?

No, I was defending a guy who debunks ghosts and psychics. I wasn't aware those are sciences, unless you are a member of the AAAS, which is only 6% Republican.

Don't make me go look.

I suspect that 6% of scientists being Republican is a tad high. Though I'm not sure. Seems 94% of scientists believe in evolution. Notice how those numbers fit together.
 
Were you also defending some guy who debunks science, saying he's a scientist? The guy had studied computer science in at a university in Utah. He studied television and wrote fiction? And you defended those "credentials"? That was you, right?

No, I was defending a guy who debunks ghosts and psychics. I wasn't aware those are sciences, unless you are a member of the AAAS, which is only 6% Republican.

Don't make me go look.

I suspect that 6% of scientists being Republican is a tad high. Though I'm not sure. Seems 94% of scientists believe in evolution. Notice how those numbers fit together.

Go look.

In fact (pun intended) I will make it easy for you.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tf-GzlzU7M&feature=relmfu]inFact: Ghost Hunting - YouTube[/ame]
 
No, I was defending a guy who debunks ghosts and psychics. I wasn't aware those are sciences, unless you are a member of the AAAS, which is only 6% Republican.

Don't make me go look.

I suspect that 6% of scientists being Republican is a tad high. Though I'm not sure. Seems 94% of scientists believe in evolution. Notice how those numbers fit together.

Go look.

In fact (pun intended) I will make it easy for you.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tf-GzlzU7M&feature=relmfu]inFact: Ghost Hunting - YouTube[/ame]

Ghost hunting? Zany.
 
What's especially hilarious is if you go through these threads, Republicans go on about the US having so much oil, we just have to develop the technology to make developing those sources feasible.

Do they understand who develops that technology? Apparently not.

The same with, well, just about everything. They seem to suggest that scientists do nothing, but however new technologies are developed
, it must be someone besides "scientists".
You know how you can tell when Derp is lying?

He posts.

Which part is the lie? Be specific. I'm waiting.
 

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