Colorado Senate Passes Bill Nixing Electoral College in Favor of Popular Vote

[bendog]

This thread is getting off topic. It's about Colorado's electoral votes, nothing else. Thanks

Well, and not to any way deny the awesome righteous right of moderators (or NFL officials blatantly stealing games) but the fact that other states have passed laws concerning how their EV must be cast is relevant to baseless assumptions without any legal support that Colo's law is somehow unconst.

 

[g5000]

Here is how the electoral college vote went in 2016:

Here are the 13 (with Colorado just joining) states with the popular vote mandate:

Washington, DC
Connecticut
Hawaii
Illinois
Maryland
Massachusetts
New Jersey
Washington
Vermont
California
Colorado

All of those states went for Clinton anyway. Their popular vote mandate didn't change a thing.

 

[jc456]

This thread is getting off topic. It's about Colorado's electoral votes, nothing else. Thanks

Well, and not to any way deny the awesome righteous right of moderators (or NFL officials blatantly stealing games) but the fact that other states have passed laws concerning how their EV must be cast is relevant to baseless assumptions without any legal support that Colo's law is somehow unconst.

well basically, the colorado discussion is them using votes from outside their state to determine their choice for president. that isn't the law. sorry, they can't change a law that isn't theirs to change. Again, the supreme court will remind them.

 

[martybegan]

But there is still a flow from the people IN the State of Colorado using that process. By giving the EC vote to the national popular vote, you are effectively disenfranchising the voters of Colorado if they vote as a majority for the "Loser" of the national popular vote.

I completely agree, but that doesn't make it unconstitutional

It violates equal protection, AND article 4. How does that make it constitutional?

You could argue that 48 states having a winner take all system and two having a proportional system does the same thing.

Not, so because the votes of the people in the State/district still count, and still have a say in who gets sent as electors. That the deciding level is the whole State's popular vote, or a districts popular vote, or a combination of the two doesn't matter. The person's vote still has a direct impact on the allocation of the electors, untarnished by the influence of the vote outside the jurisdiction.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

This thread is getting off topic. It's about Colorado's electoral votes, nothing else. Thanks

Well, and not to any way deny the awesome righteous right of moderators (or NFL officials blatantly stealing games) but the fact that other states have passed laws concerning how their EV must be cast is relevant to baseless assumptions without any legal support that Colo's law is somehow unconst.

I was talking about the "which party is more racist" posts

 

[bendog]

This thread is getting off topic. It's about Colorado's electoral votes, nothing else. Thanks

Well, and not to any way deny the awesome righteous right of moderators (or NFL officials blatantly stealing games) but the fact that other states have passed laws concerning how their EV must be cast is relevant to baseless assumptions without any legal support that Colo's law is somehow unconst.

well basically, the colorado discussion is them using votes from outside their state to determine their choice for president. that isn't the law. sorry, they can't change a law that isn't theirs to change. Again, the supreme court will remind them.

Your support of you supposition is jaw dropping.

 

[bendog]

This thread is getting off topic. It's about Colorado's electoral votes, nothing else. Thanks

Well, and not to any way deny the awesome righteous right of moderators (or NFL officials blatantly stealing games) but the fact that other states have passed laws concerning how their EV must be cast is relevant to baseless assumptions without any legal support that Colo's law is somehow unconst.

I was talking about the "which party is more racist" posts

Well never mind then. (-:

 

[jc456]

This thread is getting off topic. It's about Colorado's electoral votes, nothing else. Thanks

Well, and not to any way deny the awesome righteous right of moderators (or NFL officials blatantly stealing games) but the fact that other states have passed laws concerning how their EV must be cast is relevant to baseless assumptions without any legal support that Colo's law is somehow unconst.

well basically, the colorado discussion is them using votes from outside their state to determine their choice for president. that isn't the law. sorry, they can't change a law that isn't theirs to change. Again, the supreme court will remind them.

Your support of you supposition is jaw dropping.

dude, I support the constitution of the US. You?

 

[bodecea]

This thread is getting off topic. It's about Colorado's electoral votes, nothing else. Thanks

Well, and not to any way deny the awesome righteous right of moderators (or NFL officials blatantly stealing games) but the fact that other states have passed laws concerning how their EV must be cast is relevant to baseless assumptions without any legal support that Colo's law is somehow unconst.

well basically, the colorado discussion is them using votes from outside their state to determine their choice for president. that isn't the law. sorry, they can't change a law that isn't theirs to change. Again, the supreme court will remind them.

Your support of you supposition is jaw dropping.

dude, I support the constitution of the US. You?

Show us in Article II, Section 1 why Colorado can't do what they are doing.

 

[jc456]

This thread is getting off topic. It's about Colorado's electoral votes, nothing else. Thanks

Well, and not to any way deny the awesome righteous right of moderators (or NFL officials blatantly stealing games) but the fact that other states have passed laws concerning how their EV must be cast is relevant to baseless assumptions without any legal support that Colo's law is somehow unconst.

well basically, the colorado discussion is them using votes from outside their state to determine their choice for president. that isn't the law. sorry, they can't change a law that isn't theirs to change. Again, the supreme court will remind them.

Your support of you supposition is jaw dropping.

dude, I support the constitution of the US. You?

Show us in Article II, Section 1 why Colorado can't do what they are doing.

U. S. Electoral College, Official - What is the Electoral College?

"Each candidate running for President in your state has his or her own group of electors. The electors are generally chosen by the candidate’s political party, but state laws vary on how the electors are selected and what their responsibilities are. Read more about the qualifications of the Electors and restrictions on who the Electors may vote for.

The presidential election is held every four years on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November. You help choose your state’s electors when you vote for President becaus"

 

[Seawytch]

The only reason you aren't for it is your mob is smaller.

You don’t understand the electoral college and its value

It has no value in this day and age. It only serves to circumvent the will of the people.

yet...if the major cities on the coast-line happen to be Republican majority... you would be saying the opposite.
And every single person reading this knows this is true, PERIOD

A system that gives three times the voting power to a person in one state over another is undemocratic.

That is why we are not a democracy!

Have a nice day!

That ain’t much of a representative republic either when a person in Wyoming is represented 3 and a half times more than that of a Californian.

 

[g5000]

Well, and not to any way deny the awesome righteous right of moderators (or NFL officials blatantly stealing games) but the fact that other states have passed laws concerning how their EV must be cast is relevant to baseless assumptions without any legal support that Colo's law is somehow unconst.

well basically, the colorado discussion is them using votes from outside their state to determine their choice for president. that isn't the law. sorry, they can't change a law that isn't theirs to change. Again, the supreme court will remind them.

Your support of you supposition is jaw dropping.

dude, I support the constitution of the US. You?

Show us in Article II, Section 1 why Colorado can't do what they are doing.

U. S. Electoral College, Official - What is the Electoral College?

"Each candidate running for President in your state has his or her own group of electors. The electors are generally chosen by the candidate’s political party, but state laws vary on how the electors are selected and what their responsibilities are. Read more about the qualifications of the Electors and restrictions on who the Electors may vote for.

The presidential election is held every four years on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November. You help choose your state’s electors when you vote for President becaus"

So what part of "state laws vary on how the electors are selected and what their responsibilities are" evades you?

You just proved Colorado can do what they just did.

 

[dblack]

That ain’t much of a representative republic either when a person in Wyoming is represented 3 and a half times more than that of a Californian.

Beats the hell out of straight-up majority rule.

 

[Pilot1]

That ain’t much of a representative republic either when a person in Wyoming is represented 3 and a half times more than that of a Californian.

Do you know the concept of our founding, and why we were structured the way we are? We are supposed to be a relatively lose collection of strong States with a weak Federal Government. The States select the President, not the voters. The President does NOT REPRESENT YOU. Your legislators do. The reason we have the EC is so the larger states (now all controlled by their big metro areas) can't DICTATE to the smaller states on everything and make them just like the larger states. Get it?

 

[g5000]

Maine and Nebraska are not "winner-take-all" states, either. They allocate their electoral votes proportionately to the popular vote in their respective states.

Split Electoral Votes in Maine and Nebraska

 

[g5000]

There is nothing in the Constitution which says a state has to give all of its electoral votes to the candidate who won the most votes in their state.

Constitution of the United States - We the People

 

[bripat9643]

The electoral college was a concession to the slave states worried that their low white population would make them irrelevant. Now that the slave states have begrudgingly given black people the vote it's high time we ask ourselves what purpose the electoral college still serves.

Go ahead and ask it. Good luck on getting that constitutional amendment passed.

 

[dblack]

The electoral college was a concession to the slave states worried that their low white population would make them irrelevant. Now that the slave states have begrudgingly given black people the vote it's high time we ask ourselves what purpose the electoral college still serves.

Go ahead and ask it. Good luck on getting that constitutional amendment passed.

Right. And it won't pass because the reason it was introduced in the first place is still valid. Low-population states have no reason to be a part of a democracy that will consistently vote against their interests. The EC forces the federal government to pay attention to the interests of our "country cousins" as well as the urban population centers.

 

[g5000]

The electoral college was a concession to the slave states worried that their low white population would make them irrelevant. Now that the slave states have begrudgingly given black people the vote it's high time we ask ourselves what purpose the electoral college still serves.

Horseshit.

 

[martybegan]

You don’t understand the electoral college and its value

It has no value in this day and age. It only serves to circumvent the will of the people.

yet...if the major cities on the coast-line happen to be Republican majority... you would be saying the opposite.
And every single person reading this knows this is true, PERIOD

A system that gives three times the voting power to a person in one state over another is undemocratic.

That is why we are not a democracy!

Have a nice day!

That ain’t much of a representative republic either when a person in Wyoming is represented 3 and a half times more than that of a Californian.

Actually it's the identifying trait of a representative republic vs a more pure form of democracy.