CO2 has already maxed out

[justoffal]

Old Rocks, in a month will come out with some obscure link that
will state the summer of 2025 was the hottest on record.
You heard it here first folks.

CO2 is not even the driving force of warming.
The Sun goes through cycles, and has for billions of years.

He can't..... He was sitting in his new electric vehicle connected to a megawatt charger when it shorted out turning him, the vehicle and the charging station into a large pile of extra crispy charcoal!

 

[Robert W]

On the other hand the increased CO2 is ushering in an unparalleled greening that hasn't been seen for several hundred thousand years! The green plants of the Earth are rejoicing and in return are super generating oxygen from processed CO2! This means increased biological activity and increased crop production!

CO2 is Earths friend. I have long said we needed more green and now it has been delivered though Democrats will hate this.

 

[Robert W]

Here is some GW hawks standing on ice with noose around necks. lol!
Is that you? Old Smelly Socks?

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And that hangman contraption is leaps ahead of that on capitol grounds on Jan 6, 2020

 

[justoffal]

CO2 is Earths friend. I have long said we needed more green and now it has been delivered though Democrats will hate this.

The foliage on the trees here in the Northeast is incredible this year!

 

[Robert W]

The foliage on the trees here in the Northeast is incredible this year!

Oregon's green forests have impressed me.

 

[ding]

Imagine you want to block light from a lamp bulb. Wrap it one time and the light gets less. Keep taping the bulb and you will rather fast gain nothing by adding tape. The light will be blocked and adding more does nothing. This is how CO2 functions. When we hit 400 ppm, a mere less than 1 percent, adding more does nothing at all. Watch the video for the explanation in more detail.

1C per doubling of CO2.

 

[Robert W]

1C per doubling of CO2.

Preliminary data for 2013 show that the annual average carbon dioxide concentration was around 396 parts per million (ppm). In recent years, carbon dioxide concentrations have been growing at a rate of 2 to 2.5 ppm each year. At those rates, it would take 60-80 years to double the pre-industrial level of 275 ppm. However, the rate of increase over the past half century has not been steady; it's been accelerating by about 0.5 ppm per year per decade. If the acceleration continues into the future, then doubled pre-industrial carbon dioxide concentrations will be reached in about 50 years.

 

[ding]

Preliminary data for 2013 show that the annual average carbon dioxide concentration was around 396 parts per million (ppm). In recent years, carbon dioxide concentrations have been growing at a rate of 2 to 2.5 ppm each year. At those rates, it would take 60-80 years to double the pre-industrial level of 275 ppm. However, the rate of increase over the past half century has not been steady; it's been accelerating by about 0.5 ppm per year per decade. If the acceleration continues into the future, then doubled pre-industrial carbon dioxide concentrations will be reached in about 50 years.

Don’t care. 1C per doubling of CO2 is the theoretical change in surface temperature according to simple physics. I don’t know why anyone would ever believe it could be more or less than that.

 

[justoffal]

1C per doubling of CO2.

RACIST! HOMOPHOBE! DENIER! HATER OF POLAR BEARS!

 

[justoffal]

Don’t care. 1C per doubling of CO2 is the theoretical change in surface temperature according to simple physics. I don’t know why anyone would ever believe it could be more or less than that.

But rainbows !

 

[Sunsettommy]

Next, here is the radical change in downwelling radiation at the surface from the increase in CO2 that is supposed to be driving the “CLIMATE EMERGENCY!!!” What I’ve shown is the change that in theory would have occurred from the changes in CO2 from 1750 to the present, and the change that in theory will occur in the future when CO2 increases from its present value to twice the 1750 value. This is using the generally accepted (although not rigorously derived) claim that the downwelling radiation change from a doubling of CO2 is 3.7 watts per square metre (W/m2). The purpose is to show how small these CO2-caused changes are compared to total downwelling radiation.

The changes in downwelling radiation from the increase in CO2 are trivially small, lost in the noise …


LINK

 

[EMH]

Next, here is the radical change in downwelling radiation at the surface from the increase in CO2 that is supposed to be driving the “CLIMATE EMERGENCY!!!” What I’ve shown is the change that in theory would have occurred from the changes in CO2 from 1750 to the present, and the change that in theory will occur in the future when CO2 increases from its present value to twice the 1750 value. This is using the generally accepted (although not rigorously derived) claim that the downwelling radiation change from a doubling of CO2 is 3.7 watts per square metre (W/m2). The purpose is to show how small these CO2-caused changes are compared to total downwelling radiation.

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The changes in downwelling radiation from the increase in CO2 are trivially small, lost in the noise …


LINK

Frank cited one guy who estimated 10 ^(-6)F or 0.00000x F

 

[Sunsettommy]

Frank cited one guy who estimated 10 ^(-6)F or 0.00000x F

I know that there are several that way, but I am using the IPCC's own doubling claims against them to show how pitiful it really is.

 

[ReinyDays]

Imagine you want to block light from a lamp bulb. Wrap it one time and the light gets less. Keep taping the bulb and you will rather fast gain nothing by adding tape. The light will be blocked and adding more does nothing. This is how CO2 functions. When we hit 400 ppm, a mere less than 1 percent, adding more does nothing at all. Watch the video for the explanation in more detail.

The fancy-pants sciency term for this is "quantum saturation" ... or what I like to call "one photon, one molecule" ... once the molecule absorbs the photon, it must re-radiate a photon before it can absorb another photon, per wavelength ... just how the quantum world operates ... and this is reflected in the mathematics of Stefan-Boltzmann's Law ... irradiation is proportional to temperature raised to the fourth power ...

I can't say we are saturated right now, not until someone works out the math, but I can say the more CO2 we release, the less effect it has on temperature ... c.f. IPCC AR5 1WG fig 12-5 RCP2.6 scenario and associated text ...

Spoiler

There's no such thing as a Runaway Greenhouse Effect ... no such thing as Hypercanes ... no such thing as catastrophic climate, except for the Upper Midwest ... and Canada ... and especially Arizona ... only MORONS would live these places and they're praying for climate change ...

 

[justoffal]

Frank cited one guy who estimated 10 ^(-6)F or 0.00000x F

Wow.... Basically non-existent

 

[ReinyDays]

Wow.... Basically non-existent

About ten feet ... I'll leave the marital climate joke to your imagination ...

 

[Robert W]

The fancy-pants sciency term for this is "quantum saturation" ... or what I like to call "one photon, one molecule" ... once the molecule absorbs the photon, it must re-radiate a photon before it can absorb another photon, per wavelength ... just how the quantum world operates ... and this is reflected in the mathematics of Stefan-Boltzmann's Law ... irradiation is proportional to temperature raised to the fourth power ...

I can't say we are saturated right now, not until someone works out the math, but I can say the more CO2 we release, the less effect it has on temperature ... c.f. IPCC AR5 1WG fig 12-5 RCP2.6 scenario and associated text ...

Spoiler

There's no such thing as a Runaway Greenhouse Effect ... no such thing as Hypercanes ... no such thing as catastrophic climate, except for the Upper Midwest ... and Canada ... and especially Arizona ... only MORONS would live these places and they're praying for climate change ...

There is the science for Democrats and their political bosses. In a nutshell.

 

[EMH]

Wow.... Basically non-existent

That's always been the rebuttal, that IR is extremely weak EM and that's why holding a bit more in the atmosphere doesn't warm jack.

 

[justoffal]

That's always been the rebuttal, that IR is extremely weak EM and that's why holding a bit more in the atmosphere doesn't warm jack.

We need to get it on with some gamma!

 

[EMH]

We need to get it on with some gamma!

Goog-AI

Yes, gamma rays are absorbed by Earth's atmosphere. Specifically, the thermosphere, mesosphere, and stratosphere play a crucial role in absorbing these high-energy electromagnetic waves. Oxygen and nitrogen atoms in the thermosphere are particularly effective at absorbing gamma and X-rays


So if we increase oxygen in the atmosphere, we will burn up in a matter of hours!!!!

Well, maybe not...



All gas absorbs some form of EM spectrum. IR is weak. increasing atmospheric CO2 does NOTHING....