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So Trump did what ALL politicians have done INCLUDING OBAMA!!! Hyperinflating the story! But the biased MSM is the worst at
pushing Democrats and reporting negatively on Trump especially and GOP as a whole.
Here is a classic example: CNN's so-called "fact checking"!
Here is the total effort...
CLAIM
"We've done well with health care anyway. We got rid of the individual mandate. And if you look at that, that was a big thing with Obamacare. That was the end of Obamacare."
CONCLUSION
The individual mandate, which required Americans to obtain health insurance, was indeed a key part of Obamacare -- but it was not "the end of Obamacare" when Republicans repealed the mandate in their 2017 tax bill. Key components of the Obamacare law remain.
EVIDENCE
The bill did not eliminate Obamacare's expansion of the Medicaid insurance program for low-income people, the federal and state marketplaces that allow people to shop for coverage, or the consumer subsidies that help many of them make the purchases. While Trump continued to take other steps to weaken Obamacare, much of it still exists.
My example is this statement:The bill did not eliminate Obamacare's expansion of the Medicaid insurance program for low-income people,
Now for the REST of the story that CNN clearly didn't know or if they did, DID NOT share!
FACT:
Source: Jonathan Gruber"architect" of Obamacare, who said at one time why Obamacare was passed..
" And basically, call it the 'stupidity of the American voter'
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-for-stupidity-of-the-american-voter-comment/
Another FACT from Gruber: who said ...
" using data from the Census Bureau, estimate that Medicaid “produced 63% of the gains [in coverage] that we identified” for 2014.
Obamacare architect Gruber called YOU stupid for voting for Obamacare!
63% of the enrollees WERE ALREADY ELIGIBLE BEFORE OBAMACARE! Do you understand?
These 63% never knew they were eligible BEFORE Obamacare... why didn't Obamacare concentrate on USING existing Medicaid allocations to get these 63% enrolled BEFORE creating the gigantic wasteful Obamacare? Obama's lie has been totally exposed:
"46 million uninsured"was not the whole truth, because:
Gruber and his coauthors, using data from the Census Bureau, estimate that Medicaid
“produced 63% of the gains [in coverage] that we identified” for 2014.
They also found that much of this gain was attributable to the enrollment in Medicaid of people who were eligible for the program under criteria that preceded the ACA’s Medicaid expansion:
Dividing Gruber’s estimate of the percentage gain in coverage of Medicaid enrollees who were eligible before the ACA by the percentage gain in coverage attributable to Medicaid overall means that 70% of new Medicaid enrollees in 2014 were eligible for the program under pre-ACA rules.
www.forbes.com
So for those of you that don't deal with reality.. ONE of several LIES Obama told like :
Another Obama lie:
"We are not a nation that accepts nearly 46 million uninsured men, women and children,"
www.forbes.com
So if 70% of Obamacare enrollees were already eligible for Medicaid WHY NOT just simple make them aware?
Remember Gruber (architect of Obamacare) who said it passed because of the "And basically, call it the 'stupidity of the American voter'
Think about that! Obama and now Biden depend on the ignorance of the voters!
YOU that supported Obama/Biden are considered by Democrat leaders as stupid!
pushing Democrats and reporting negatively on Trump especially and GOP as a whole.
Here is a classic example: CNN's so-called "fact checking"!

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CLAIM
"We've done well with health care anyway. We got rid of the individual mandate. And if you look at that, that was a big thing with Obamacare. That was the end of Obamacare."
CONCLUSION
The individual mandate, which required Americans to obtain health insurance, was indeed a key part of Obamacare -- but it was not "the end of Obamacare" when Republicans repealed the mandate in their 2017 tax bill. Key components of the Obamacare law remain.
EVIDENCE
The bill did not eliminate Obamacare's expansion of the Medicaid insurance program for low-income people, the federal and state marketplaces that allow people to shop for coverage, or the consumer subsidies that help many of them make the purchases. While Trump continued to take other steps to weaken Obamacare, much of it still exists.
My example is this statement:The bill did not eliminate Obamacare's expansion of the Medicaid insurance program for low-income people,
Now for the REST of the story that CNN clearly didn't know or if they did, DID NOT share!
FACT:
Source: Jonathan Gruber"architect" of Obamacare, who said at one time why Obamacare was passed..
" And basically, call it the 'stupidity of the American voter'
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-for-stupidity-of-the-american-voter-comment/
Another FACT from Gruber: who said ...
" using data from the Census Bureau, estimate that Medicaid “produced 63% of the gains [in coverage] that we identified” for 2014.
Obamacare architect Gruber called YOU stupid for voting for Obamacare!
63% of the enrollees WERE ALREADY ELIGIBLE BEFORE OBAMACARE! Do you understand?
These 63% never knew they were eligible BEFORE Obamacare... why didn't Obamacare concentrate on USING existing Medicaid allocations to get these 63% enrolled BEFORE creating the gigantic wasteful Obamacare? Obama's lie has been totally exposed:
"46 million uninsured"was not the whole truth, because:
- 11 million were illegals
- 14 million were eligible for Medicaid..
New Gruber Study Raises Major Questions About Obamacare's Medicaid Expansion
Fewer new Medicaid enrollees were made eligible by the ACA than thought.Gruber and his coauthors, using data from the Census Bureau, estimate that Medicaid
“produced 63% of the gains [in coverage] that we identified” for 2014.
They also found that much of this gain was attributable to the enrollment in Medicaid of people who were eligible for the program under criteria that preceded the ACA’s Medicaid expansion:
Dividing Gruber’s estimate of the percentage gain in coverage of Medicaid enrollees who were eligible before the ACA by the percentage gain in coverage attributable to Medicaid overall means that 70% of new Medicaid enrollees in 2014 were eligible for the program under pre-ACA rules.

New Gruber Study Raises Major Questions About Obamacare's Medicaid Expansion
A new study suggests that people who were already eligible for Medicaid before the ACA have been inappropriately categorized as though they are newly eligible because of the ACA and that a lot fewer people than previously thought would lose coverage if the ACA is repealed.

So for those of you that don't deal with reality.. ONE of several LIES Obama told like :
Obama's 'You Can Keep It' Promise Is 'Lie Of The Year'
Obama's 'You Can Keep It' Promise Is 'Lie Of The Year'
The nonpartisan PolitiFact has given the president's claim about his health care program a dubious honor. Obama said that "if you like your health care plan, you can keep it." When it became clear that wasn't correct, the White House tried to "rewrite his slogan," the fact checkers say.
www.npr.org

Obama's 'You Can Keep It' Promise Is 'Lie Of The Year'
The nonpartisan PolitiFact has given the president's claim about his health care program a dubious honor. Obama said that "if you like your health care plan, you can keep it." When it became clear that wasn't correct, the White House tried to "rewrite his slogan," the fact checkers say.

Another Obama lie:
"We are not a nation that accepts nearly 46 million uninsured men, women and children,"

New Gruber Study Raises Major Questions About Obamacare's Medicaid Expansion
A new study suggests that people who were already eligible for Medicaid before the ACA have been inappropriately categorized as though they are newly eligible because of the ACA and that a lot fewer people than previously thought would lose coverage if the ACA is repealed.

Remember Gruber (architect of Obamacare) who said it passed because of the "And basically, call it the 'stupidity of the American voter'
Think about that! Obama and now Biden depend on the ignorance of the voters!
YOU that supported Obama/Biden are considered by Democrat leaders as stupid!