Clash of Cultures...

[Correll]

Ok, the Arabs intervened to prevent the Zionists from evicting only the Muslim Palestinians.

Right. Because the Arabs have a long history of unity and caring for each other's well being sooooooooo much....

Much like Europeans, correct.

So, you dropping that one too?

So you ready to agree with me that the Arab Israel Wars have been religious and cultural from Day One? Which was my point that you felt compelled to argue with.

 

[montelatici]

The original conflict was colonial project versus native resistance. That the two parties were of different cultural/religious backgrounds was consistent with most colonization versus native conflicts.

 

[Votto]

Sadly, the events in France clearly show that the West's creation of Israel amongst a sea of Islam against their will via UN Neo-Colonial enforcement has produced a clash of cultures and its going to start WWlll.

Israel is a poor excuse not the cause

You are correct in a way, its not Israel, it is the West's audacity to use the UN as a new Neo-Colonial tool to control the oil fields and thus the politics of the region. Israel is too a tool of Western Imperialism, that's why we support a fascist state...

It's all about the oil and control.

But I thought climate change was the cause of the terrorism. You mean Israel is to blame?

I'm so confused now.

 

[Correll]

The original conflict was colonial project versus native resistance. That the two parties were of different cultural/religious backgrounds was consistent with most colonization versus native conflicts.

So, now you are dropping ALL of your previous claims to support that, and just going to a blanket reassertion without any supporting reasoning at all?

That's not a debating move, that's a propaganda move.

Please explain why you think that motivation has to be an either or situation instead of a large mix?

 

[montelatici]

The original conflict was colonial project versus native resistance. That the two parties were of different cultural/religious backgrounds was consistent with most colonization versus native conflicts.

So, now you are dropping ALL of your previous claims to support that, and just going to a blanket reassertion without any supporting reasoning at all?

That's not a debating move, that's a propaganda move.

Please explain why you think that motivation has to be an either or situation instead of a large mix?

What previous claims? I think you are confusing me with another poster.

 

[Correll]

The original conflict was colonial project versus native resistance. That the two parties were of different cultural/religious backgrounds was consistent with most colonization versus native conflicts.

So, now you are dropping ALL of your previous claims to support that, and just going to a blanket reassertion without any supporting reasoning at all?

That's not a debating move, that's a propaganda move.

Please explain why you think that motivation has to be an either or situation instead of a large mix?

What previous claims? I think you are confusing me with another poster.

Here is my favorite previous claim of YOURS.

"MONTELATICI SAID: ↑
The Arabs intervened to prevent the European Zionists from ethnically cleansing and killing the Christians "


You dropped that immediately on being called on it. As well you should have.


Though I wonder what you were thinking trying to run that line of bs pass me at all.

 

[montelatici]

What I wrote was, "the Arabs intervened to prevent the European Zionists from ethnically cleansing and killing the Christians and the Muslims."

I have never dropped that. I probably should have said the "Arabs" but there were a few hundred native Arab Jews among the Arab population of Palestine, so I wanted to be clear.

It is you who is trying to BS his/her away around the fact that had the Europeans not declared their Jewish state, their would have been no intervention.

 

[pbel]

Sadly, the events in France clearly show that the West's creation of Israel amongst a sea of Islam against their will via UN Neo-Colonial enforcement has produced a clash of cultures and its going to start WWlll.

Israel is a poor excuse not the cause

You are correct in a way, its not Israel, it is the West's audacity to use the UN as a new Neo-Colonial tool to control the oil fields and thus the politics of the region. Israel is too a tool of Western Imperialism, that's why we support a fascist state...

It's all about the oil and control.

But I thought climate change was the cause of the terrorism. You mean Israel is to blame?

I'm so confused now.

Yes you are confused, maybe climate change has affected your brain cells which adds to your confusion making you unable to discern the root causes of terrorism.

 

[aris2chat]

Sadly, the events in France clearly show that the West's creation of Israel amongst a sea of Islam against their will via UN Neo-Colonial enforcement has produced a clash of cultures and its going to start WWlll.

Israel is a poor excuse not the cause

You are correct in a way, its not Israel, it is the West's audacity to use the UN as a new Neo-Colonial tool to control the oil fields and thus the politics of the region. Israel is too a tool of Western Imperialism, that's why we support a fascist state...

It's all about the oil and control.

But I thought climate change was the cause of the terrorism. You mean Israel is to blame?

I'm so confused now.

Israel is more powerful than god to control weather and earthquakes or stubbing a toe on a pebble.

 

[Correll]

What I wrote was, "the Arabs intervened to prevent the European Zionists from ethnically cleansing and killing the Christians and the Muslims."

I have never dropped that. I probably should have said the "Arabs" but there were a few hundred native Arab Jews among the Arab population of Palestine, so I wanted to be clear.

It is you who is trying to BS his/her away around the fact that had the Europeans not declared their Jewish state, their would have been no intervention.

REally? Strange, the moment I questioned you on the Muslim's long history of protecting and nurturing Christians, you stopped talking about it and moved on to another excuse.

I guess I should have hammered you on that instead of taking your silence as an embarrassed admission.

So, please support your idea that the Arab intervention was motivated to any significant degree by a desire to protect Christians.

 

[montelatici]

Muslims have about the same record at nurturing and protecting Christians as the Christian's history of nurturing and protecting Muslims. That's an own goal on your part.

The Arab intervention was motivated by a desire to protect Arabs from eviction and killing on the part of the European Zionists. .

It is you who should be embarrassed, you don't know what you are talking about.

Quit projecting.

 

[Correll]

Muslims have about the same record at nurturing and protecting Christians as the Christian's history of nurturing and protecting Muslims. That's an own goal on your part.

The Arab intervention was motivated by a desire to protect Arabs from eviction and killing on the part of the European Zionists. .

It is you who should be embarrassed, you don't know what you are talking about.

Quit projecting.

I haven't claimed any history of Christians nurturing and protecting Muslims.

YOU have claimed that the Arabs were invading Israel to protect that Christians.

And now when I have called you on that nonsense a second time, you have stopped talking about it a second time.

Last time you did that, I took that as an admission that you were giving up on that point.

I will not make that mistake again.

Please support your claim that the Arabs were invading to protect Christians from Zionist.

 

[montelatici]

As I said, I erred, I should have said Palestinian "Arabs", Muslim and Christians. So, let's leave at Arabs minus the Arab Jews. I never said the Arab states invaded. I said they intervened as the Zionist forces were invading Palestinian villages and ethnically cleansing them of Arabs both Christian and Muslim. The Lebanese sent a third of their army into Palestine, they were Christians, they were attempting to prevent Arabs from being evicted by the European Zionists.

By definition, they were defending Arabs of Palestine that were non-Jews.

 

[Phoenall]

Nut&Yahoo has a sure plan for Israel's destruction. He has turned a Land War into religious /Cultural War with Islam's 1.5 billion people. The War of Attrition ill be long and Israel will implode.


Netanyahu Broke New Ground in U.S. Trip -- But Not in a Good Way
"...Netanyahu's words are profoundly dangerous because he is trying to turn a dispute over land into a religious war and a clash of cultures. A conflict over land can be settled by dividing the land -- but a clash of cultures can only end in absolute victory for one side and total defeat for the other. Thus, Netanyahu offers a prognosis for endless conflict..."

It is hamas that started the religious war as commanded in the koran. And this is where your lies are shown to be incitement to racial hatreds every time. There are no commands in Judaism that call for holy war that are practised today by Jews, but there are plenty of commands in the koran calling for continual holy war.


Keep trying and I will keep showing you up for the NAZI SCUM you are.

 

[Phoenall]

The muslims have NEVER agreed to a divided land.

They want one land, all of it, as palestinian land.
and lots if dead jews

The muslims have NEVER agreed to a divided land.

They want one land, all of it, as palestinian land.
and lots if dead jews

The Arab League has offered a comprehensive peace to the 67 Armistice lines more than once, but you knew that, why do ZioNuts always mislead?

That would sign the death warrant for Israel and you islamomorons know this, this is why you tout the arab league proposals of peace and mass murder. The only sane solution is for the UN to enforce International law of 1923 and send the arab muslims back to where they came from.

 

[Phoenall]

The muslims have NEVER agreed to a divided land.

They want one land, all of it, as palestinian land.
and lots if dead jews

The muslims have NEVER agreed to a divided land.

They want one land, all of it, as palestinian land.
and lots if dead jews

The Arab League has offered a comprehensive peace to the 67 Armistice lines more than once, but you knew that, why do ZioNuts always mislead?

Because they are demanding borders that they have never recognized, No Israelis in E. Jerusalem where their most religious sites are. refuse to recognize Israel as a Jewish State while demanding they be recognized as a Palestinian State and " demanding Right of Return" which would eventually destroy Israel from within and annex it to the Palestinian State. Why are Pro Palestinians such liars?

Give back what you stole in 67 pre-emptive Land Grab or slowly wither...

What was stolen then as 90% has been handed back in return for peace. The other 5% was given to Israel by Egypt and Jordan.

 

[Phoenall]

Returning stolen property is not surrendering or generous.

That is why you islamonazi's wont surrender the land you have stolen isn't it. The International law of 1923 tells the world who the land belongs to and this law has never been repealed or superseded

 

[Phoenall]

As I said, I erred, I should have said Palestinian "Arabs", Muslim and Christians. So, let's leave at Arabs minus the Arab Jews. I never said the Arab states invaded. I said they intervened as the Zionist forces were invading Palestinian villages and ethnically cleansing them of Arabs both Christian and Muslim. The Lebanese sent a third of their army into Palestine, they were Christians, they were attempting to prevent Arabs from being evicted by the European Zionists.

By definition, they were defending Arabs of Palestine that were non-Jews.

So why did they state that they were invading to destroy Israel and wipe out the Jews .This as far back as early 1947 when they first shots were fired in the war of Independence.

 

[Phoenall]

Sadly, the events in France clearly show that the West's creation of Israel amongst a sea of Islam against their will via UN Neo-Colonial enforcement has produced a clash of cultures and its going to start WWlll.

The events all over Europe shows that islam is out to take full control of the world and make it one big caliphate ran along sharia laws. This is what we in the west are fighting against while you morons support and defend islamonazo terrorism, violence, rape and theft

 

[Phoenall]

Sadly, the events in France clearly show that the West's creation of Israel amongst a sea of Islam against their will via UN Neo-Colonial enforcement has produced a clash of cultures and its going to start WWlll.

Israel is a poor excuse not the cause

You are correct in a way, its not Israel, it is the West's audacity to use the UN as a new Neo-Colonial tool to control the oil fields and thus the politics of the region. Israel is too a tool of Western Imperialism, that's why we support a fascist state...

It's all about the oil and control.

So who's fault was it in 635 C.E. then, right up until 1917 when the Ottomans lost the war and surrendered the M.E. Would you have preferred that they acted in the Islamic manner and killed all the males, then checked out all the females killing those that were ugly or no longer virgins ?