Dear
Pogo
A. "CORRELATION" vs "CAUSATION"
are both neutral terms that can apply to anything.
(also technically speaking, if YOU made such an analogy,
the 'BELIEF of the party leaders' is blamed as the CAUSE
and the 'CRIME' is the contested effect; but in the case of cancer
the 'SMOKING' is blamed as the CAUSE
and the 'CANCER' is the contested effect.
So NO Pogo YOU were the only one equating the
party with the cancer not me or anyone else.)
I didn't make an causation analogy between political parties and smoking causing cancer. YOU did that. And it's absurd.
Again, the OP creates a false causation by cherrypicking the stats he wants to massage and trying to connect them to correlations that equally indicate the opposite of his massaged cherries. Again, Democrats run cities everywhere. You can't just cherrypick certain ones that fit your prearranged fake points and ignore the rest of the sample that makes the opposite case. Period.
This ain't rocket surgery.
B. And yes, the image and msg of the govt leaders
does act as a deterrent, just like when parents are consistent
in enforcing rules, that has a different effect on children's attitudes
than when mixed messages are sent or boundaries/limits
aren't established clearly. I think you and others come from the
opposite school of thought, worrying about "too strict or abusive"
with the "rule of law" attitude, which is argued as causing the
opposite effect of rebelling instead of obeying. Both arguments
are right about NOT taking authoritarian enforcement to EITHER EXTREME. NEITHER TOO LAX NOR TOO CRUEL AND UNJUST.
Again -- there's nothing of the "Liberal" or "conservative" impetus in deciding "it's time to run the snowplows" or "your neighborhood's garbage pickup day will be Thursday" That's just mundane management. When Ray Nagin takes heat for not using school buses to evacuate for a flood (which he may or may not have had the authority to do anyway) --- is that because of his
political party?
NO. The premise is absurd. If he did drop the ball on that, it's because he was an incompetent MANAGER. All these wags (and they're the same ones trotting out the present causation fallacies) have screamed from the rooftops that it's because he was a "Democrat" --- even though he's actually a lifelong Republican who switched his registration just so he could get elected, because even he knows the reality I've been laying down here --- which is (again) Democrats run cities, for whatever reason, and if you want to get elected Mayor you either run as a Democrat or you lose.
Frank Rizzo knew that too. And the reverse is true in the suburbs.
Again, not rocket surgery. Has nothing to do with any greater ideals that exercise once that same political party
elsewhere deals in national and international stages. Cities just don't do that. Pittsburgh does not send an ambassador to Argentina. San Francisco does not go to war with Belize. Denver does not sign nuclear peace treaties with Pakistan. It's just not the same scope.
NOR is there such in the "children's attitudes" you describe above, which is
cultural and
transcends politics anyway.
The argument of cretins like the OP is hanging on the deliberate misuse of a single word, in this case "Democrat", trying to pretend it shares some profound implication in every context. It doesn't. At this local level it's nothing more than a machine to consolidate power in elections --- which is at base all a political party is anyway. And these same wags practice the same word-fixation on bogus arguments like "Hitler was a leftist because his party had the word
socialist in it". That's just a deliberately stupid argument ignoring all contexts and causations in order to cherrypick a prearranged premise, and all for no other purpose than scoring "points" for their "team" on an internet message board in a vast sports game of Eliminationism*, because that is the puddle-deep depth of their intellect.
*Eliminationism --- the binary-bot's belief that those with which one disagrees cannot be 'reasoned' or 'negotiated' with, but rather must be exterminated -- like a case of bedbugs.
This abject moronity of desperate attempts to connect things that have nothing to do with political ideology from Those With No Life infects this board every day.
"
Democrat shoots up workplace".
"
Republican arrested in sex scandal"
"
Liberalism is a mental disorder"
"_____s are the party of racism".
" (fill in the blank) are racists/violent/insert blanket predicate adjective here)"
*******
ENOUGH already.
