Church goers must take their firearms with them to Church

[2aguy]

And police take a beating in states with more guns.
More police officers die on the job in states with more guns

More anti-gun research....

Here is the truth...

Gun Control Is Not the Answer to Shootings that Kill Police Officers

Research in my new book, The War on Guns, shows that each one-percentage-point increase in gun ownership is associated with a 3.6 percent decrease in the number of police killed. Clinton and Obama keep pushing for background checks on private transfers of guns, but using data from the handful of states that mandate such checks, I found no relationship between tighter restrictions and the number of police shot to death in the years 2000–2014. Jackson’s claim about open-carry laws is simply wrong. From 2013 to 2015, the six states (plus the District of Columbia) that banned open carry actually experienced higher rates of police death (20.2 versus 17.3 per 100,000 officers). But if Clinton, Obama, and Jackson don’t believe my research, maybe they’ll believe police officers. In fact, there is probably no group that supports private gun ownership more than the police do. Americans may be divided on this issue, but police know that allowing law-abiding citizens to keep and bear firearms improves everyone’s safety.

Read more at: Gun Control Is Not the Answer to Shootings that Kill Police Officers

Never a week goes by without a police officer death. That is unheard of in civilized countries. Too many guns.

Tell the criminals here to stop murdering police officers....doofus.

 

[Brain357]

Link Between Gun Ownership Rates and Murders of Women | SPH | Boston University
The study found that for every 10 percentage point increase in state-level gun ownership, the female gun-related homicide rate increased by 10.2 percent. That suggests, the authors said, that if the proportion of gun ownership in Wyoming was to fall from 73 percent (the average level between 1981 and 2013) to 40 percent, its female homicide rate could be predicted to drop by about 33 percent.

Yeah....not guns.....violent men. These women are in relationships with criminals, addicts and these men have violence in their histories.....guns aren't the issue, the choices in boyfriends and husbands are the issue.....but thanks for trying.

And gun ownership leads to more death.

No...it doesn't....criminals lead to more death...and people like you and other democrats keep letting violent criminals out of prison.

I haven't let anyone out of jail.

Yes it does. We lead the world in mass shootings, police shootings, police deaths, accidental shootings, gun violence... Too many guns.

We had 7 mass shootings last year....7 people out of 320 million.....2 of them were muslim terrorists....

We have mass shootings all the time.
Mass Shooting Tracker

 

[Brain357]

FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

You can keep repeating that all you want...up until 2015....it was going down. Then, as they did with Fast and Furious, the obama's and other left wingers needed to increase the crime rate, in order to push gun control. They used Ferguson as a means to attack the police and hamper their ability to deal with criminals...they succeeded.....

As the actual research shows, our violent crime rates went down...until 2015...when the Ferguson effect took over...

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Yes the Bill Clinton crime bill lowered crime. But as concealed carry has ramped up it has increased violent crime.
FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

Troll....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Yes most the concealed carry increase has been in recent years. And this is the result:
FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

The Ferguson effect is the problem. Troll. Since crime went down as more Americans owned and carried guns up to 2015, when obama and black lies matter started attacking the police.....troll.

And ferguson is because we have too many guns. Police shoot more people than in any other country because we have too many guns.

 

[2aguy]

Yeah....not guns.....violent men. These women are in relationships with criminals, addicts and these men have violence in their histories.....guns aren't the issue, the choices in boyfriends and husbands are the issue.....but thanks for trying.

And gun ownership leads to more death.

No...it doesn't....criminals lead to more death...and people like you and other democrats keep letting violent criminals out of prison.

I haven't let anyone out of jail.

Yes it does. We lead the world in mass shootings, police shootings, police deaths, accidental shootings, gun violence... Too many guns.

We had 7 mass shootings last year....7 people out of 320 million.....2 of them were muslim terrorists....

We have mass shootings all the time.
Mass Shooting Tracker

Those aren't mass shootings....those are gangs shooting at each other at parties and over drug turf......

This is the actual list...from anti-gun, left wing Mother Jones.....they actually list only mass public shootings....not every gang banger shooting someone over a facebook insult......troll.

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2017: Data From Mother Jones’ Investigation

 

[Brain357]

And police take a beating in states with more guns.
More police officers die on the job in states with more guns

More anti-gun research....

Here is the truth...

Gun Control Is Not the Answer to Shootings that Kill Police Officers

Research in my new book, The War on Guns, shows that each one-percentage-point increase in gun ownership is associated with a 3.6 percent decrease in the number of police killed. Clinton and Obama keep pushing for background checks on private transfers of guns, but using data from the handful of states that mandate such checks, I found no relationship between tighter restrictions and the number of police shot to death in the years 2000–2014. Jackson’s claim about open-carry laws is simply wrong. From 2013 to 2015, the six states (plus the District of Columbia) that banned open carry actually experienced higher rates of police death (20.2 versus 17.3 per 100,000 officers). But if Clinton, Obama, and Jackson don’t believe my research, maybe they’ll believe police officers. In fact, there is probably no group that supports private gun ownership more than the police do. Americans may be divided on this issue, but police know that allowing law-abiding citizens to keep and bear firearms improves everyone’s safety.

Read more at: Gun Control Is Not the Answer to Shootings that Kill Police Officers

Never a week goes by without a police officer death. That is unheard of in civilized countries. Too many guns.

Tell the criminals here to stop murdering police officers....doofus.

Stop arming them and it will stop.
Up to 600,000 guns are stolen every year in the US – that's one every minute

 

[2aguy]

You can keep repeating that all you want...up until 2015....it was going down. Then, as they did with Fast and Furious, the obama's and other left wingers needed to increase the crime rate, in order to push gun control. They used Ferguson as a means to attack the police and hamper their ability to deal with criminals...they succeeded.....

As the actual research shows, our violent crime rates went down...until 2015...when the Ferguson effect took over...

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Yes the Bill Clinton crime bill lowered crime. But as concealed carry has ramped up it has increased violent crime.
FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

Troll....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Yes most the concealed carry increase has been in recent years. And this is the result:
FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

The Ferguson effect is the problem. Troll. Since crime went down as more Americans owned and carried guns up to 2015, when obama and black lies matter started attacking the police.....troll.

And ferguson is because we have too many guns. Police shoot more people than in any other country because we have too many guns.

Moron.....Ferguson was a thug attacking a police officer.....and then people like you lied about it.

 

[Brain357]

And gun ownership leads to more death.

No...it doesn't....criminals lead to more death...and people like you and other democrats keep letting violent criminals out of prison.

I haven't let anyone out of jail.

Yes it does. We lead the world in mass shootings, police shootings, police deaths, accidental shootings, gun violence... Too many guns.

We had 7 mass shootings last year....7 people out of 320 million.....2 of them were muslim terrorists....

We have mass shootings all the time.
Mass Shooting Tracker

Those aren't mass shootings....those are gangs shooting at each other at parties and over drug turf......

This is the actual list...from anti-gun, left wing Mother Jones.....they actually list only mass public shootings....not every gang banger shooting someone over a facebook insult......troll.

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2017: Data From Mother Jones’ Investigation

Look like massive numbers of people shot. The police have to deal with all these shootings. That is why so may people get shot. Too many guns.

 

[2aguy]

And police take a beating in states with more guns.
More police officers die on the job in states with more guns

More anti-gun research....

Here is the truth...

Gun Control Is Not the Answer to Shootings that Kill Police Officers

Research in my new book, The War on Guns, shows that each one-percentage-point increase in gun ownership is associated with a 3.6 percent decrease in the number of police killed. Clinton and Obama keep pushing for background checks on private transfers of guns, but using data from the handful of states that mandate such checks, I found no relationship between tighter restrictions and the number of police shot to death in the years 2000–2014. Jackson’s claim about open-carry laws is simply wrong. From 2013 to 2015, the six states (plus the District of Columbia) that banned open carry actually experienced higher rates of police death (20.2 versus 17.3 per 100,000 officers). But if Clinton, Obama, and Jackson don’t believe my research, maybe they’ll believe police officers. In fact, there is probably no group that supports private gun ownership more than the police do. Americans may be divided on this issue, but police know that allowing law-abiding citizens to keep and bear firearms improves everyone’s safety.

Read more at: Gun Control Is Not the Answer to Shootings that Kill Police Officers

Never a week goes by without a police officer death. That is unheard of in civilized countries. Too many guns.

Tell the criminals here to stop murdering police officers....doofus.

Stop arming them and it will stop.
Up to 600,000 guns are stolen every year in the US – that's one every minute

Tell the criminals to stop stealing guns. No one is arming them, they are not legally allowed to buy, own or carry those guns....

 

[Brain357]

Yes the Bill Clinton crime bill lowered crime. But as concealed carry has ramped up it has increased violent crime.
FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

Troll....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Yes most the concealed carry increase has been in recent years. And this is the result:
FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

The Ferguson effect is the problem. Troll. Since crime went down as more Americans owned and carried guns up to 2015, when obama and black lies matter started attacking the police.....troll.

And ferguson is because we have too many guns. Police shoot more people than in any other country because we have too many guns.

Moron.....Ferguson was a thug attacking a police officer.....and then people like you lied about it.

It wasn't about one event. It was obviously a build up of many. Too many guns.

 

[Brain357]

And police take a beating in states with more guns.
More police officers die on the job in states with more guns

More anti-gun research....

Here is the truth...

Gun Control Is Not the Answer to Shootings that Kill Police Officers

Research in my new book, The War on Guns, shows that each one-percentage-point increase in gun ownership is associated with a 3.6 percent decrease in the number of police killed. Clinton and Obama keep pushing for background checks on private transfers of guns, but using data from the handful of states that mandate such checks, I found no relationship between tighter restrictions and the number of police shot to death in the years 2000–2014. Jackson’s claim about open-carry laws is simply wrong. From 2013 to 2015, the six states (plus the District of Columbia) that banned open carry actually experienced higher rates of police death (20.2 versus 17.3 per 100,000 officers). But if Clinton, Obama, and Jackson don’t believe my research, maybe they’ll believe police officers. In fact, there is probably no group that supports private gun ownership more than the police do. Americans may be divided on this issue, but police know that allowing law-abiding citizens to keep and bear firearms improves everyone’s safety.

Read more at: Gun Control Is Not the Answer to Shootings that Kill Police Officers

Never a week goes by without a police officer death. That is unheard of in civilized countries. Too many guns.

Tell the criminals here to stop murdering police officers....doofus.

Stop arming them and it will stop.
Up to 600,000 guns are stolen every year in the US – that's one every minute

Tell the criminals to stop stealing guns. No one is arming them, they are not legally allowed to buy, own or carry those guns....

You have created an arms race. Where the law abiding are armed so are the criminals.

 

[2aguy]

No...it doesn't....criminals lead to more death...and people like you and other democrats keep letting violent criminals out of prison.

I haven't let anyone out of jail.

Yes it does. We lead the world in mass shootings, police shootings, police deaths, accidental shootings, gun violence... Too many guns.

We had 7 mass shootings last year....7 people out of 320 million.....2 of them were muslim terrorists....

We have mass shootings all the time.
Mass Shooting Tracker

Those aren't mass shootings....those are gangs shooting at each other at parties and over drug turf......

This is the actual list...from anti-gun, left wing Mother Jones.....they actually list only mass public shootings....not every gang banger shooting someone over a facebook insult......troll.

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2017: Data From Mother Jones’ Investigation

Look like massive numbers of people shot. The police have to deal with all these shootings. That is why so may people get shot. Too many guns.

Americans use guns to stop crime......Europeans allowed 12 million unarmed men, women and children to be gassed to death by the Germans.....averaged out, that total far surpasses even our criminals murdering each other.....

An armed society doesn't have mass murder, genocide and ethnic cleansing....just ask Mexico...where the unarmed people are murdered by the police and the drug cartels...right across our border......

While Americans use guns to stop violent criminals......

Self defense with a gun......40 years of actual research...first is the name of the group that conducted the research, then the year, then the number of defensive gun uses and finally wether the research contained police or military defensive gun uses....

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....
GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

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Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops, military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

*****************************************
If you take the studies from that Kleck cites in his paper, 16 of them....and you only average the ones that exclude military and police shootings..the average becomes 2 million...I use those studies because I have the details on them...and they are still 10 studies (including Kleck's)....

 

[2aguy]

Troll....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Yes most the concealed carry increase has been in recent years. And this is the result:
FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

The Ferguson effect is the problem. Troll. Since crime went down as more Americans owned and carried guns up to 2015, when obama and black lies matter started attacking the police.....troll.

And ferguson is because we have too many guns. Police shoot more people than in any other country because we have too many guns.

Moron.....Ferguson was a thug attacking a police officer.....and then people like you lied about it.

It wasn't about one event. It was obviously a build up of many. Too many guns.

Moron...thugs attacking people and getting killed for it ......and then people like you lied about what happened......this is on you.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Frivolous gun laws will never save a single soul - never have never will... fact

well, let's see, who to believe.... your colon, or a scientific study.... hmm, tough call...

So maybe you can explain since BrainDead won't why states with the most lax gun laws have lower murder rates than states with the strictest gun laws or why the murder rate in the UK went UP not down after all their gun laws bans and confiscations.

<<So maybe you can explain since BrainDead won't why states with the most lax gun laws have lower murder rates than states with the strictest gun laws>>


because the States with the strictest gun laws implemented them because of their high gun violence. You really couldn't puzzle that one out all by yourself?

And yet those strict gun laws don't reduce the murder rate do they?

Now tell me why the murder rate in those strict gun law states is higher than Utah the state with the most lax gun laws in the country.

And tell me why despite all the gun laws bans and confiscations in the UK since the 60's the murder rate is actually higher than it was in 1950.

Utah? Utah doesn't have a major city.

Never heard of Salt Lake City?

So now let me get this straight it's cities that cause murders not guns?

You have been saying stricter gun laws will lower the murder rate I have shown you that is completely untrue

 

[Skull Pilot]

Frivolous gun laws will never save a single soul - never have never will... fact

well, let's see, who to believe.... your colon, or a scientific study.... hmm, tough call...

So maybe you can explain since BrainDead won't why states with the most lax gun laws have lower murder rates than states with the strictest gun laws or why the murder rate in the UK went UP not down after all their gun laws bans and confiscations.

<<So maybe you can explain since BrainDead won't why states with the most lax gun laws have lower murder rates than states with the strictest gun laws>>


because the States with the strictest gun laws implemented them because of their high gun violence. You really couldn't puzzle that one out all by yourself?

And yet those strict gun laws don't reduce the murder rate do they?

Now tell me why the murder rate in those strict gun law states is higher than Utah the state with the most lax gun laws in the country.

And tell me why despite all the gun laws bans and confiscations in the UK since the 60's the murder rate is actually higher than it was in 1950.

Link Between Gun Ownership Rates and Murders of Women | SPH | Boston University
The study found that for every 10 percentage point increase in state-level gun ownership, the female gun-related homicide rate increased by 10.2 percent. That suggests, the authors said, that if the proportion of gun ownership in Wyoming was to fall from 73 percent (the average level between 1981 and 2013) to 40 percent, its female homicide rate could be predicted to drop by about 33 percent.

Meaningless since most people are killed by someone they know.

The entire so called study is speculation since it assumes that a person without a gun will not kill.

If a person is hell bent on murder it doesn't matter if he has a gun.

 

[Skull Pilot]

So maybe you can explain since BrainDead won't why states with the most lax gun laws have lower murder rates than states with the strictest gun laws or why the murder rate in the UK went UP not down after all their gun laws bans and confiscations.

<<So maybe you can explain since BrainDead won't why states with the most lax gun laws have lower murder rates than states with the strictest gun laws>>


because the States with the strictest gun laws implemented them because of their high gun violence. You really couldn't puzzle that one out all by yourself?

And yet those strict gun laws don't reduce the murder rate do they?

Now tell me why the murder rate in those strict gun law states is higher than Utah the state with the most lax gun laws in the country.

And tell me why despite all the gun laws bans and confiscations in the UK since the 60's the murder rate is actually higher than it was in 1950.

The Relationship Between Gun Ownership and Firearm Homicide Rates in the United States, 1981–2010
The correlation of gun ownership with firearm homicide rates was substantial. Results from our model showed that a 1-SD difference in the gun ownership proxy measure, FS/S, was associated with a 12.9% difference in firearm homicide rates. All other factors being equal, our model would predict that if the FS/S in Mississippi were 57.7% (the average for all states) instead of 76.8% (the highest of all states), its firearm homicide rate would be 17% lower.

Sorry....actual facts show this is wrong...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

Wow still trying?

That increase is insignificant as compared to the drop in violent crimes over the past 20 years

 

[Skull Pilot]

So maybe you can explain since BrainDead won't why states with the most lax gun laws have lower murder rates than states with the strictest gun laws or why the murder rate in the UK went UP not down after all their gun laws bans and confiscations.

<<So maybe you can explain since BrainDead won't why states with the most lax gun laws have lower murder rates than states with the strictest gun laws>>


because the States with the strictest gun laws implemented them because of their high gun violence. You really couldn't puzzle that one out all by yourself?

And yet those strict gun laws don't reduce the murder rate do they?

Now tell me why the murder rate in those strict gun law states is higher than Utah the state with the most lax gun laws in the country.

And tell me why despite all the gun laws bans and confiscations in the UK since the 60's the murder rate is actually higher than it was in 1950.

Link Between Gun Ownership Rates and Murders of Women | SPH | Boston University
The study found that for every 10 percentage point increase in state-level gun ownership, the female gun-related homicide rate increased by 10.2 percent. That suggests, the authors said, that if the proportion of gun ownership in Wyoming was to fall from 73 percent (the average level between 1981 and 2013) to 40 percent, its female homicide rate could be predicted to drop by about 33 percent.

Yeah....not guns.....violent men. These women are in relationships with criminals, addicts and these men have violence in their histories.....guns aren't the issue, the choices in boyfriends and husbands are the issue.....but thanks for trying.

And gun ownership leads to more death.

Then why do states with the most lax gun laws have lower murder rates than the states with the strictest gun laws?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

2aguy and family going to church.

 

[Skull Pilot]

2aguy and family going to church.

Maybe you can explain to me why after all the gun laws bans and confiscations in the UK since the 1960's that the murder rate is actually higher than it was in the 1950's

I mean if tough gun laws, outright bans and confiscations lower the murder rate shouldn't the murder rate in the UK be lower than before all those things came to be?

 

[Coyote]

Actually...though the Quran itself is very short, but there is a wealth of accompanying material in the Hadiths. I think it's kind of like the OT and the Talmud maybe?

Yeah, that is a good comparison.

The Quran was actually compiled by his followers after Mohammed's death.

I know the Hadith was, but I dont think the Quran was compiled so much as various versions purged of questionable content like the so-called Satanic Verses.

They were compiled from written scraps and, mainly, memorized passages from his followers as that was thr promary means of passing down info. The various versions were reconciled but the differences were really pretty minor, at least that is what I've read.

 

[2aguy]

2aguy and family going to church.

Actually, a tank gun would likely not be protected by Heller, since it is not a "Bearable" arm.