Christian Pastor Goes After Ben Shapiro for calling Jesus a criminal

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

One of Israel’s biggest supporters in America had this to say



There are many things that Christian supporters of Israel(very small number) are unaware of such as the relentless Jewish extremism in Israel against Christians. As shown via video evidence all throughout this message board by numerous posters.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Did you think Jesus was not judged a criminal? Was He crucified because Pontius Pilate had a bad hair day?

 

[The Irish Ram]

The Jews hate Christians just a little bit less than they hate Muslims. That is on them.
Regardless of their behavior, we are told that if we bless them we will be blessed. That is on us.

 

[Mac-7]

It makes no difference what a few radical Jews say about Christ

He is King of the Jews and someday everyone must acknowledge it

In the meantime Jews are God’s chosen people and Israel is their homeland

 

[luiza]

He actually was a radical priest within the Essene community and therefore more than ruffled the feathers of the Romans and fellow Jews who wanted an easier life .
And we all know where that conflict led .

Before blindly accepting the scripted Biblical narrative , DYOR and see if you can find the actual history instead of the manipulated one .

 

[GLASNOST]

One of Israel’s biggest supporters in America had this to say



There are many things that Christian supporters of Israel(very small number) are unaware of such as the relentless Jewish extremism in Israel against Christians. As shown via video evidence all throughout this message board by numerous posters.

Ok, so I've watched the video but where is the part where "Ben Shapiro calls Jesus a criminal"? Was it left out intentionally, by mistake, or did he never actually say it at all?

 

[surada]

He actually was a radical priest within the Essene community and therefore more than ruffled the feathers of the Romans and fellow Jews who wanted an easier life .
And we all know where that conflict led .

Before blindly accepting the scripted Biblical narrative , DYOR and see if you can find the actual history instead of the manipulated one .

I have never seen any evidence that Jesus was an Essene.

 

[luiza]

I have never seen any evidence that Jesus was an Essene.

If you do not search you will never find .

It's not some random opinion . It's there as a simple narrative and facts .
Jesus had relationship problems with his close disciple John Mark and also Simon Magus .This led to group difficulties with both Peter and Paul later deriding the latter to keep the Romans " at bay".
Initially Jesus was also very much influenced by cousin John the Baptist and in the wider picture open to the close opinions of the more extreme elements around him -- Zealots in modern terms .
You need to examine Palestine Essenes in detail because there were were four different groups ------ Levi , Judah , Zebelun and Napthali .
Jesus belonged to the second group where the the David Princes line were "the Princes of Judah" .

It's all there in great detail but almost like a closely guarded secret -- and most of all by so called Christians . Albeit largely unwitting .

 

[irosie91]

If you do not search you will never find .

It's not some random opinion . It's there as a simple narrative and facts .
Jesus had relationship problems with his close disciple John Mark and also Simon Magus .This led to group difficulties with both Peter and Paul later deriding the latter to keep the Romans " at bay".
Initially Jesus was also very much influenced by cousin John the Baptist and in the wider picture open to the close opinions of the more extreme elements around him -- Zealots in modern terms .
You need to examine Palestine Essenes in detail because there were were four different groups ------ Levi , Judah , Zebelun and Napthali .
Jesus belonged to the second group where the the David Princes line were "the Princes of Judah" .

It's all there in great detail but almost like a closely guarded secret -- and most of all by so called Christians . Albeit largely unwitting .

there is no evidence that Jesus was an ESSENE----it seems sorta logical that JOHN THE MIKVEH MAN was a member of one of the many monastic groups that found refuge from Roman oppression OUT IN THE STICKS (ie the MIDBAR----to wit, the desert in southern Judea)

 

[Superbadbrutha]

there is no evidence that Jesus was an ESSENE----it seems sorta logical that JOHN THE MIKVEH MAN was a member of one of the many monastic groups that found refuge from Roman oppression OUT IN THE STICKS (ie the MIDBAR----to wit, the desert in southern Judea)

Where is the evidence that Jesus was born on December 25?

 

[irosie91]

Where is the evidence that Jesus was born on December 25?

why do you bring up that issue? You are being silly. There was no
DECEMBER 25 back then----AND the date of birth is no big deal in
the Middle east-----my own hubby has no idea on what day he was
born according to the GREGORIAN calendar

 

[Superbadbrutha]

why do you bring up that issue? You are being silly. There was no
DECEMBER 25 back then----AND the date of birth is no big deal in
the Middle east-----my own hubby has no idea on what day he was
born according to the GREGORIAN calendar

So we just make up a birthdate and roll with it, is that what you are saying?

 

[Libby von H]

Did you think Jesus was not judged a criminal? Was He crucified because Pontius Pilate had a bad hair day?

In the 1940's (?) in Israel there was a re-trial of Jesus and He was cleared.
so boo on all in this discussion for not having facts

 

[irosie91]

So we just make up a birthdate and roll with it, is that what you are saying?

who is "we" ? If you are referring to Jesus----the christians decided
based on whatever information they had. Does the exact date of the
birth of an obscure Jew who was born in the GALIL bother you?

 

[Mac-7]

Ok, so I've watched the video but where is the part where "Ben Shapiro calls Jesus a criminal"? Was it left out intentionally, by mistake, or did he never actually say it at all?

Shapiro did not call Jesus a criminal in the link provided by the op

 

[Superbadbrutha]

who is "we" ? If you are referring to Jesus----the christians decided
based on whatever information they had. Does the exact date of the
birth of an obscure Jew who was born in the GALIL bother you?

who is "we" ? If you are referring to Jesus----the christians decided
based on whatever information they had. Does the exact date of the
birth of an obscure Jew who was born in the GALIL bother you?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

who is "we" ? If you are referring to Jesus----the christians decided
based on whatever information they had. Does the exact date of the
birth of an obscure Jew who was born in the GALIL bother you?

who is "we" ? If you are referring to Jesus----the christians decided
based on whatever information they had. Does the exact date of the
birth of an obscure Jew who was born in the GALIL bother you?

Most Bible scholars agree that Jesus was not born on December 25. In fact it is generally understood that this date was chosen by church leaders sometime around 400 A.D. so they could celebrate the birth of Christ and still appease the non-believers by coexisting with some of the traditions of the pagan Saturnalia festival. That spirit of appeasement continues today as the words “Seasons Greetings” have replaced “Merry Christmas” in advertisements, verbal greetings, and even our Christmas cards.

Serious biblical scholars have taken clues from Luke 2:8 in which we learn that shepherds were watching their flocks at night. From that verse they have determined that the Christ child was probably born in the spring, the time of year when lambs are born, a most critical time when shepherds closely guarded the sheep to protect the newborn lambs from predators. It is highly unlikely that shepherds would keep their sheep on the hillsides in wintertime.

 

[irosie91]

Shapiro did not call Jesus a criminal in the link provided by the op

Jesus was a criminal according to Roman law which is why he
was crucified

Most Bible scholars agree that Jesus was not born on December 25. In fact it is generally understood that this date was chosen by church leaders sometime around 400 A.D. so they could celebrate the birth of Christ and still appease the non-believers by coexisting with some of the traditions of the pagan Saturnalia festival. That spirit of appeasement continues today as the words “Seasons Greetings” have replaced “Merry Christmas” in advertisements, verbal greetings, and even our Christmas cards.

Serious biblical scholars have taken clues from Luke 2:8 in which we learn that shepherds were watching their flocks at night. From that verse they have determined that the Christ child was probably born in the spring, the time of year when lambs are born, a most critical time when shepherds closely guarded the sheep to protect the newborn lambs from predators. It is highly unlikely that shepherds would keep their sheep on the hillsides in wintertime.

the jerk whose explanation you posted is a JOKE Nazareth is the home town of DAVID----important to jews

 

[Lord Long Rod]

Jesus built my hotrod.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Jesus was a criminal according to Roman law which is why he
was crucified

the jerk whose explanation you posted is a JOKE Nazareth is the home town of DAVID----important to jews

So show me where what he said is false.