China has transformed from a traditional society into a communist totalitarian state.

[lvhonglai]

——“The Party rules everything” refers to the absolutization and extremization of the party-state system.

The concept of "grand unification" is a founding principle in China that has been revered since the Western Zhou Dynasty, emphasizing the unification of various systems and institutions. It has a history of several thousand years, encompassing the unification of the calendar, government decrees, the nation, ethnic groups, rituals, weights and measures, and writing systems. While this concept of grand unification, as both a philosophical idea and a national system, held some progressive social significance in the backward feudal era, with the advent of the free market economy, it has become a constraint hindering social development and progress.

After the Chinese Communist Party usurped state power, in order to maintain its one-party totalitarian rule, it not only completely inherited the tradition of centralized, unified rule, but also further radicalized and absolutized it. Building upon the foundation of a unified Chinese society, the CCP absolutized its rule, establishing a party-state system that places the Communist Party above the entire nation. This transformed historically unified China into a "Party-unified" state completely subservient to the Communist Party, which can be translated into English as: The Party rules everything.

The Chinese Communist Party's system of "Party Unification" is more than just a system of national unity encompassing political, administrative, ceremonial, ethnic, and linguistic uniformity, as well as standardized weights and measures. "Party Unification" means that the entire country must absolutely adhere to the comprehensive and unified leadership of the Communist Party, accepting its absolute unified command, unified decision-making, unified deployment, and unified action. It demands political, economic, ideological, cultural, and propaganda uniformity, placing the entire nation under the absolute control of the Communist Party.

Under the rule of the CCP, China has now fully entered the era of "party domination." The so-called "party domination" era means that the entire country's politics, economy, science, culture, military, education, and even the daily lives of its people are completely controlled and monopolized by the Communist Party. The entire country considers safeguarding the interests and rule of the Communist Party as the social norm and principle.

Party rule is the most stubborn and deceptive form of autocratic dictatorship, a double-structured autocratic rule. Under this system, the autocratic rulers are merely representatives and embodiments of the Communist Party. Therefore, even if the rulers act against the people's will and are overthrown, the Communist Party will still exist, and its rule will persist. The result will only be a change of leadership, not a change of regime.

Therefore, in a country unified under the Party, it is crucial to understand the relationship between the Party and the rulers, and to recognize that the Communist Party's system and institutions are the root cause of all social problems. The fight against autocratic and totalitarian rulers must be closely linked with the fight against the Party's unification. Otherwise, even if the autocratic and totalitarian rulers are overthrown, the Communist Party's rule will still persist!

The characteristics and dangers of the Communist Party's all-encompassing control are as follows:

One-party rule is the fundamental obstacle to political democratization:

2. One-party rule is the natural enemy of political pluralism, ideological diversity, and cultural diversity:

3. One-party rule serves as a pretext for suppressing all political dissidents:

4. One-party rule is the enemy of all freedoms:

5. One-party rule is a major obstacle to establishing judicial independence and a rule-of-law society:

6. One-party rule is the main obstacle to the nationalization of the military:

7. One-party rule is a fundamental reason for the exacerbation of regional disparities and wealth inequality in Chinese society:

8. One-party rule renders autonomous regions and special administrative regions meaningless in practice:

9. One-party rule is the underlying reason for the formation of a vast bureaucratic privileged class and rampant corruption in China today.

 

[JoeB131]

Do you actually know any Chinese?

And, no, I don't mean "Charlie Wang" whose family immigrated here three generations ago and doesn't speak a word of Mandarin.

While the PRC is brutal, it's also been a benefit to most Chinese in how it has raised up the economy and improved quality of life.

It's why most Chinese still revere Mao, even if they aren't so keen on the Communism anymore.

 

[Hafar1014]

Do you actually know any Chinese?

And, no, I don't mean "Charlie Wang" whose family immigrated here three generations ago and doesn't speak a word of Mandarin.

While the PRC is brutal, it's also been a benefit to most Chinese in how it has raised up the economy and improved quality of life.

It's why most Chinese still revere Mao, even if they aren't so keen on the Communism anymore.

Especially for the 80million slaughtered by Mao.

 

[JoeB131]

Especially for the 80million slaughtered by Mao.

80 million? Really?

The only way you get into high numbers is if you count the Great Famine of 1959-61. While certain policies certainly contributed to that (adopting Lysennko's agricultural theories, overreporting grain yeilds, killing the Sparrow that kept insect populations under control). the reality is that it was mostly a natural disaster.

China has had famines all the way back to the Han Dynasty.

So if you take out the 15-45 million who died in the Great Famine, what do you have left? Maybe six million people died in the Civil War. (Although Chiang deserves much of the credit for that.) Maybe two million who died in the Cultural Revolution.

 

[luiza]

Bejing has recognised the advantages of mixing Capitalist thinking for the able and awake, and Directed Socialism for the Sheeple .

Pragmatic disguised Fascism -- an excellent modern day way of controlling the Herd .

 

[JoeB131]

Bejing has recognised the advantages of mixing Capitalist thinking for the able and awake, and Directed Socialism for the Sheeple .

Pragmatic disguised Fascism -- an excellent modern day way of controlling the Herd .

Well, not really. We are more socialistic than we like to think, China is more capitalistic than they like to think.

The real difference is that we are a Democracy, and they are a Technocracy.

While we elect any orange goon who can appeal to the lowest common denominator, the Chinese system advances the best and the brightest. And this predates Communism, really. The Chinese Civil Service Exams have existed since the Tang Dyansty.

 

[lvhonglai]

Do you actually know any Chinese?

And, no, I don't mean "Charlie Wang" whose family immigrated here three generations ago and doesn't speak a word of Mandarin.

While the PRC is brutal, it's also been a benefit to most Chinese in how it has raised up the economy and improved quality of life.

It's why most Chinese still revere Mao, even if they aren't so keen on the Communism anymore.

Without the appeasement policies of the United States and Western countries towards the CCP, there would be no rapid economic development in China. And while the Chinese economy has developed, the money has flowed into the pockets of a select few.

 

[JoeB131]

Without the appeasement policies of the United States and Western countries towards the CCP, there would be no rapid economic development in China. And while the Chinese economy has developed, the money has flowed into the pockets of a select few.

By a "Select Few", you mean the 300 Million Chinese who have risen to the Middle Class in the last 40 years?

I'll tell you EXACTLY why we are losing to China.

They have a work ethic. We don't.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

The only way you get into high numbers is if you count the Great Famine of 1959-61. While certain policies certainly contributed to that (adopting Lysennko's agricultural theories, overreporting grain yeilds, killing the Sparrow that kept insect populations under control). the reality is that it was mostly a natural disaster.

China has had famines all the way back to the Han Dynasty.

So if you take out the 15-45 million who died in the Great Famine, what do you have left? Maybe six million people died in the Civil War. (Although Chiang deserves much of the credit for that.) Maybe two million who died in the Cultural Revolution.

Natural? Really? the only thing that is natural is that you use it as a synonym for "inevitable" when describing communist rule...and until American style capitalism was introduced into agriculture famine was the number one cause of death on the planet, you'll notice china has figure that out

 

[Frankeneinstein]

By a "Select Few", you mean the 300 Million Chinese who have risen to the Middle Class in the last 40 years?

they recognized the shortcomings of communist collectivism

I'll tell you EXACTLY why we are losing to China.

They have a work ethic. We don't.

The "Protestant work ethic" came under attack in the 60's and 70's and was replaced by "do your own thing" and communal chores

 

[Mac-7]

Do you actually know any Chinese?

And, no, I don't mean "Charlie Wang" whose family immigrated here three generations ago and doesn't speak a word of Mandarin.

While the PRC is brutal, it's also been a benefit to most Chinese in how it has raised up the economy and improved quality of life.

It's why most Chinese still revere Mao, even if they aren't so keen on the Communism anymore.

You give the communists credit they do not deserve

The West, meaning the US and Europe raised from a collection of mud huts to what is is today

We taught them how to make everything they produce and allow them to sell here

 

[JoeB131]

You give the communists credit they do not deserve

The West, meaning the US and Europe raised from a collection of mud huts to what is is today

We taught them how to make everything they produce and allow them to sell here

Mud huts? Really?

Racist much?

China has had civilization when Europeans were living in "mud huts", as you say.

The West did nothing but screw China for 100 years, starting with the Opium Wars.

The CCP said, "No More".

 

[Mac-7]

Mud huts? Really?

Racist much?

China has had civilization when Europeans were living in "mud huts", as you say.

The West did nothing but screw China for 100 years, starting with the Opium Wars.

The CCP said, "No More".

Yes, mud huts

China was incredibly poor before trade with America

 

[Lockback]

Do you actually know any Chinese?

And, no, I don't mean "Charlie Wang" whose family immigrated here three generations ago and doesn't speak a word of Mandarin.

While the PRC is brutal, it's also been a benefit to most Chinese in how it has raised up the economy and improved quality of life.

It's why most Chinese still revere Mao, even if they aren't so keen on the Communism anymore.

Listen to you.
You're ******* defending Communism AGAIN!
You have no ******* integrity.
You're disgraceful.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes, mud huts

China was incredibly poor before trade with America

Right.

Have you seen old-timey pictures of America before World War I?

Here's the reality- China was the world's leading economy before 1750, when it was surpassed by the British Empire. The US passed up the British Empire in 1918. Now China is pulling out ahead again, and frankly, it's our own damned fault.

Listen to you.
You're ******* defending Communism AGAIN!
You have no ******* integrity.
You're disgraceful.

No, I'm giving a sober analysis of history.

If the PRC had not been effective, we wouldn't be shitting our pants about them now.

But instead of muttering 'Fuh, fuh, Communism Bad", let's look at some of what they did right to rise from being an impoverished country in the 1940s to being right at our heels ready to surpass us.

 

[Mac-7]

Have you seen old-timey pictures of America before World War I?

America pulled itself out of poverty

And 70 years later we did the same for china

 

[JoeB131]

America pulled itself out of poverty

And 70 years later we did the same for china

America pulled itself out of poverty because of the socialist programs of FDR.

Just like China pulled itself out of poverty by the socialist programs of Mao.

Given we are now in sharp decline, we probably need some of those policies again.

 

[Mac-7]

America pulled itself out of poverty because of the socialist programs of FDR.

Just like China pulled itself out of poverty by the socialist programs of Mao.

Given we are now in sharp decline, we probably need some of those policies again.

America pulled itself out of poverty long before the Grest Depression happened

Neither Hoover or FDR and their big government polivies had much to do with the economic recovery

WWI was mostly responsible for that

 

[Lockback]

America pulled itself out of poverty because of the socialist programs of FDR.

Just like China pulled itself out of poverty by the socialist programs of Mao.

Given we are now in sharp decline, we probably need some of those policies again.

Translation: "I adore Communism. I would sleep in the casket with Lenin. I worship the State over any form of individualism. We must all bend to the will of the State because the State knows what's best. Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than every other system but I would give my life to the State. I love you, Lenin!"

"Kneel before me, Joe. KNEEL!"

 

[Unkotare]

——“The Party rules everything” refers to the absolutization and extremization of the party-state system.

The concept of "grand unification" is a founding principle in China that has been revered since the Western Zhou Dynasty, emphasizing the unification of various systems and institutions. It has a history of several thousand years, encompassing the unification of the calendar, government decrees, the nation, ethnic groups, rituals, weights and measures, and writing systems. While this concept of grand unification, as both a philosophical idea and a national system, held some progressive social significance in the backward feudal era, with the advent of the free market economy, it has become a constraint hindering social development and progress.

After the Chinese Communist Party usurped state power, in order to maintain its one-party totalitarian rule, it not only completely inherited the tradition of centralized, unified rule, but also further radicalized and absolutized it. Building upon the foundation of a unified Chinese society, the CCP absolutized its rule, establishing a party-state system that places the Communist Party above the entire nation. This transformed historically unified China into a "Party-unified" state completely subservient to the Communist Party, which can be translated into English as: The Party rules everything.

The Chinese Communist Party's system of "Party Unification" is more than just a system of national unity encompassing political, administrative, ceremonial, ethnic, and linguistic uniformity, as well as standardized weights and measures. "Party Unification" means that the entire country must absolutely adhere to the comprehensive and unified leadership of the Communist Party, accepting its absolute unified command, unified decision-making, unified deployment, and unified action. It demands political, economic, ideological, cultural, and propaganda uniformity, placing the entire nation under the absolute control of the Communist Party.

Under the rule of the CCP, China has now fully entered the era of "party domination." The so-called "party domination" era means that the entire country's politics, economy, science, culture, military, education, and even the daily lives of its people are completely controlled and monopolized by the Communist Party. The entire country considers safeguarding the interests and rule of the Communist Party as the social norm and principle.

Party rule is the most stubborn and deceptive form of autocratic dictatorship, a double-structured autocratic rule. Under this system, the autocratic rulers are merely representatives and embodiments of the Communist Party. Therefore, even if the rulers act against the people's will and are overthrown, the Communist Party will still exist, and its rule will persist. The result will only be a change of leadership, not a change of regime.

Therefore, in a country unified under the Party, it is crucial to understand the relationship between the Party and the rulers, and to recognize that the Communist Party's system and institutions are the root cause of all social problems. The fight against autocratic and totalitarian rulers must be closely linked with the fight against the Party's unification. Otherwise, even if the autocratic and totalitarian rulers are overthrown, the Communist Party's rule will still persist!

The characteristics and dangers of the Communist Party's all-encompassing control are as follows:

One-party rule is the fundamental obstacle to political democratization:

2. One-party rule is the natural enemy of political pluralism, ideological diversity, and cultural diversity:

3. One-party rule serves as a pretext for suppressing all political dissidents:

4. One-party rule is the enemy of all freedoms:

5. One-party rule is a major obstacle to establishing judicial independence and a rule-of-law society:

6. One-party rule is the main obstacle to the nationalization of the military:

7. One-party rule is a fundamental reason for the exacerbation of regional disparities and wealth inequality in Chinese society:

8. One-party rule renders autonomous regions and special administrative regions meaningless in practice:

9. One-party rule is the underlying reason for the formation of a vast bureaucratic privileged class and rampant corruption in China today.

That has been the case for 50+ years.