I know exactly what I wrote.
Review what you wrote, then. You were writing about American moslems with the inclusive “we”, description.
Islam is a religion. Your failure to understand that does not constitute ignorance on my part.
Islam is not just a religion but a “complete way of life”™. Didn’t you get the email?
It is an exhaustively complete and thorough way of life, covering everything from personal hygiene, sexual relations, to public legalities, sociality, a penal code, political matters, religious worship, and warfare. In a manner that one would not be amiss in describing as borderline obsessive-compulsive disorder, Islam has a prescription or proscription for anything that may happen in a person's life. And all with the weight of God's command. Politics, religion, personal relations, society, and war are all interwoven into the monolithic tapestry of Islam. It is the ultimate authoritarianism, with God as the supreme leader, and his people as the elite on Earth. There are provisions for monotheists (with a book, i.e., the Bible) to live
under Islamic "protection" as second-class citizens called dhimmis, but it is a matter of subjugation, humiliation, privation, and sometimes elimination.
Polls are nice. What a shame that Tsarnaev brothers didn't read that poll.
And why?
Religious bigotry?
There is nothing bigoted about banning symbols of oppression and misogyny. In particular with the French ban on the burqa, I remember reading commentaries that addressed their reasons. What they saw were Moslems’ one sided claims to entitlements and demands for special treatment. They saw demands for the allowance of religious symbols in secular school systems. They saw Moslems segregating themselves in communities to be isolated from the host nation so as to minimize exposure to the host nations “corruptive influences”. They saw moslems’ importing the societal norms of their nations of origin which are totally contrary to Western standards of equality, tolerance, personal freedoms and rule of law. Yet, the French saw themselves barraged with charges of bigotry and
Racism™ when they reject such religiously inspired things as “honor” killings, misogynistic treatment of women and an all-consuming politico-religious ideology that Moslems believe must be imposed on all.
So....because I spell "Jews" as "Jews" and not "Jooooooooooos" I am now edging into conspiracy theory?
Not at all. You do have this need to force your religious beliefs on others as though you have some entitlement.
So....what's your point?
The point is, nobodyÂ’s perfect and crimes happen.
What are you talking about? Are you saying that hate crimes are non existant? We're all a kumbaya nation of brotherhood? There is no racism, anti-semitism, islamophobia?
There is a criminal justice system that deals with crime. In the U.S., justice is overwhelming a matter of law, absent ones religious, ethnic and political leanings.
Sharia is already established in Islamic Lands™. The fact that every incarnation of sharia law being an abject failure in terms of providing justice and equality should tell you something.
The difference between a secular government and a theocracy like the numerous Moslem ones that are causing so much grief much to the suffering of people the world over is obvious:
Secular governments do not force or compel belief in one particular belief system to the exclusion of others as is the case with Islamic governments. ThatÂ’s been the history of the Middle East as it applies to theocratic and despotic regimes. The constant warring amongst tribal / religious sects and subdivisions is endless, as is the obstructionism and petty rivalries.
Not at all. But then, I'm not the one reading conspiracy theory into how one spells "Jews"
Conspiracy theories seem to be staples among the more islamist of the bunch.
Nice try, but - that's not exactly the issue and your overly dependent on talking points and assumptions rather than what I actually say. The issue is that these petitions are induce lawmakers curtail the religious freedoms of groups they don't like, like preventing the building of Mosques and legislating "anti-sharia" laws. Strangely, it seldom happens to churches or synagogues. But hey - you are free to believe in your Alice in Wonderland fantasies
Actually, it is the issue. What you demand is for your religious ideology to have a special place of unchallenged authority. You require your religious “rights” supersede those of others. The manifestation of this doctrine is exhibited in the Moslem revulsion of the infidel. It’s why we see the blatant double standards that so define Islam; the demands for exclusive rights and privileges with the attendant refusal to extend the same rights and privileges to the hated infidel. It’s why we see playwrights killed in the streets of their homeland, Churches burned, Dhimmi’s subjected to limited rights and the other atrocities that are endured by the non-Muslim in Moslem Lands™.'
Once again, protesting the building of mosques, protesting most anything is a hallmark of a free society. People can have legitimate concerns for protesting. With regularity, you demonstrate that you feel your rights are sacrosanct and not to be challenged.
They sure do. And innocent people die because of it. Too bad it wasn't real Muslims right?
Yet you canÂ’t bring yourself to address the atrocities dealt out to non-moslems in every location where moslems and sharia law are in the majority
I'm sticking to America and American Muslims - that is what my discussion pertains to.
No doubt. Having to address the nightmare faced by the infidel in “moslem lands”™ tends to expose your rather obvious double standards.
WouldnÂ’t it actually suggest that not addressing those issues is really avoidance? I can clearly make a case for the double standards that Muslims embrace regarding demands to religious freedom in the West, yet clearly suppressing (even violently), the religious freedoms of others in the Islamic Middle East. You exploit that Western held precept of freedom of religion, BTW.
I think it's important to understand that the major world religions are not monolithic but multi-faceted and complex. As a result, I "taking sides" against an entire religion is, in my opinion, wrong. I would rather take each person individually - whether Christian, Jewish, or Muslim. There is a lot to learn from all of them and they share the same core values and historical roots.
That’s fine. Although your “shared values” comment is a bit silly.
Religion in Western cultures is largely a private and personal matter. For the most part it is not often dragged into the public arena or forced upon others as it is in many Islamic majority nations. In a democracy, you can believe (or not) as you wish, and you can expect that right to be honored (even if grudgingly) and protected by law. This is illustrative of the dynamic of religious freedom that simply doesnÂ’t exist in much of the Islamic Middle East.
While you may have hoped to deflect the core argument of religious oppression performed by Moslems with your “I’m talking about American moslems”, It’s not just a little disingenuous to ignore the reality of islam globally.
At least as it applies to the double standards and overt discrimination that Moslems allow themselves, I do find that distasteful. It’s distasteful that many Islamic nations ban or restrict competing religions yet Moslems screech like petulant children, (citing Racism™, because as we all know, Islam is a “Race”™), when we in the West insist that no religion is garnered preferential treatment.
At the very least, we here in the
Great Satan™ have no religious police who will arrest you for practicing your religion of choice.
What an audacious concept, donÂ’t you think? I have my religion (or none), while you have yours. No one gets arrested and we can both mind our business without a (proceeding alphabetically), Ayatollah, Cleric, Emir or Imam rallying the faithful to burn our respective houses down because we dare to worship (or not) as we please.
