Cheney now admits Iraq had NOTHING to do with 911!

[DiveCon]

It's useless. The only people who have said that we invaded Iraq because of 911 have been the Dems. All along they've said it.

And of course it's a lie. It's just a lie that they believe, because they're too stupid to read or watch television to see what's really being said.

and thats it exactly
the reasons for the liberation of Iraq were laid out plainly in the SotU address

 

[elvis]

It's useless. The only people who have said that we invaded Iraq because of 911 have been the Dems. All along they've said it.

And of course it's a lie. It's just a lie that they believe, because they're too stupid to read or watch television to see what's really being said.

and thats it exactly
the reasons for the liberation of Iraq were laid out plainly in the SotU address

but Bush isn't part of the Bush admin.

 

[DiveCon]

It's useless. The only people who have said that we invaded Iraq because of 911 have been the Dems. All along they've said it.

And of course it's a lie. It's just a lie that they believe, because they're too stupid to read or watch television to see what's really being said.

and thats it exactly
the reasons for the liberation of Iraq were laid out plainly in the SotU address

but Bush isn't part of the Bush admin.

must not have been

 

[Coyote]

since the both say basically the same thing, why would you think there was any contradiction?

Is there or is there not a connection? Despite Tenant's testimony to the contrary, despite overwelming evidence against a link - the Administration refused to come out and state no 9/11 link until well after the invasion.

Why? Because it fueled public fear and support needed for the invasion.

with all of the things Tenent was WRONG on, you want to take his word on it for THAT?

btw, neither statement of Cheney's was wrong, they didnt have any proof to either prove Saddam was a part of it or that he wasnt
thats NOT saying he was or that he wasnt
so there is no contradiction in what Cheney said

There was substantial evidence that Saddam had no involvement:
1998: NSC Finds No Link Between Al-Qaeda and Iraqi Government
April 30, 2001: State Department Finds No External Terror Support from Iraqi Government
September 21, 2001: President Bush Told of No Connection between Iraq and 9/11 by Intelligence Community
November 2001: FBI Inteviews Al-Qaeda Operatives in Sudan; Hussein-Bin Laden Link Is Dismissed

Tenent seems to have been right about more things then Cheney was.

 

[Coyote]

The "Liberation of Iraq"....is that the new politically correct term for the war?

 

[elvis]

The "Liberation of Iraq"....is that the new politically correct term for the war?

Maybe you should ask Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and Rahm Emanuel?

 

[Coyote]

Oh please. "The fear factor".

I don't suppose anyone remembers the Clintons going around insisting that if Bill wasn't elected, old people would lose their social security and CHILDREN WOULD DIE!

Somehow, I think the "fear factor" is going to a lot more powerful after the destruction of the Twin Towers, and the loss of thousands of innocent lives.

Could be wrong but...it would worry me a lot more then social security.

Nice deflection though

 

[Coyote]

The "Liberation of Iraq"....is that the new politically correct term for the war?

Maybe you should ask Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and Rahm Emanuel?

....or maybe these guys: Committee for the Liberation of Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Coyote]

since the both say basically the same thing, why would you think there was any contradiction?

Is there or is there not a connection? Despite Tenant's testimony to the contrary, despite overwelming evidence against a link - the Administration refused to come out and state no 9/11 link until well after the invasion.
Why? Because it fueled public fear and support needed for the invasion.

That's why Bush said ahead of time there was no connection. He said it repeatedly. That part of your claim is incorrect.
I ask you, which is it? the admin never said there was no connection or they did? Is Bush not part of the Bush admin?

When did Bush publically state there is no connection between 9/11 and Saddam?

 

[elvis]

The "Liberation of Iraq"....is that the new politically correct term for the war?

Maybe you should ask Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and Rahm Emanuel?

....or maybe these guys: Committee for the Liberation of Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Would you mind not using Wiki? I am not saying you're wrong. I just don't think Wiki is reputable.

 

[Coyote]

Maybe you should ask Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and Rahm Emanuel?

....or maybe these guys: Committee for the Liberation of Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Would you mind not using Wiki? I am not saying you're wrong. I just don't think Wiki is reputable.

It sure is convenient though....and it provides sources at least, but here's another: Political Research Associates - Right Web - Profile - Committee for the Liberation of Iraq

 

[elvis]

....or maybe these guys: Committee for the Liberation of Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Would you mind not using Wiki? I am not saying you're wrong. I just don't think Wiki is reputable.

It sure is convenient though....and it provides sources at least, but here's another: Political Research Associates - Right Web - Profile - Committee for the Liberation of Iraq

I know Bush said there was no connection. i will look for proof tonight. i will say that Fox News (and maybe others, I was a fox news watcher at the time) pushed the Czech meeting awfully hard, which may have led to the majority of americans believing there was a connection. i think it reached 70 percent at its peak.

 

[Coyote]

Would you mind not using Wiki? I am not saying you're wrong. I just don't think Wiki is reputable.

It sure is convenient though....and it provides sources at least, but here's another: Political Research Associates - Right Web - Profile - Committee for the Liberation of Iraq

I know Bush said there was no connection. i will look for proof tonight. i will say that Fox News (and maybe others, I was a fox news watcher at the time) pushed the Czech meeting awfully hard, which may have led to the majority of americans believing there was a connection. i think it reached 70 percent at its peak.

I would be curious - I looked once to try to find the earliest public claim I could, and it was in September, after the invasion - I couldn't find anything earlier.

 

[DiveCon]

The "Liberation of Iraq"....is that the new politically correct term for the war?

Maybe you should ask Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and Rahm Emanuel?

or ask some of the troops that did it

 

[YWN666]

Is there or is there not a connection? Despite Tenant's testimony to the contrary, despite overwelming evidence against a link - the Administration refused to come out and state no 9/11 link until well after the invasion.

Why? Because it fueled public fear and support needed for the invasion.

Bingo! Their MO was imply and deny.

 

[YWN666]

no it doesnt, asshole
you lack reading comprehension, take a class

did wolf misquote it or am I missing something?

it's out of context

Bullshit. You can see the video if you follow the link in my original post and see Ari Fleisher say the words yourself.

 

[Coyote]

Is there or is there not a connection? Despite Tenant's testimony to the contrary, despite overwelming evidence against a link - the Administration refused to come out and state no 9/11 link until well after the invasion.

Why? Because it fueled public fear and support needed for the invasion.

Bingo! Their MO was imply and deny.

Yes ... and it was quite clever wasn't it? They never actually said anything definitive enough to be caught out lying, but they said enough to mislead a huge proportion of the American public into believing there was a 9/11 connection and they never publicly squashed the rumor until after the invasion. They could have done that at any time. I think that administration was one of the most manipulative and dishonest administrations in a long time.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

"I do not believe and have never seen any evidence to confirm that [Mr. Hussein] was involved in 9/11," Mr. Cheney told an audience gathered for lunch at the National Press Club in Washington. "We had that reporting for a while, [but] eventually it turned out not to be true."
Newsvine - Cheney admits Iraq had no link to 9/11

ROFL... Now what's hilarious is that the Audacious Hopers want to conclude that the US liberated Iraq because it the Bush administration 'believed' that Iraq was behind 9-11...

When such is simply not true... Never has been...

Iraq was a proponent of International Islamic Terrorism and had used such as proxy fighters to attack what Iraq believed to be it's international enemies for decades... which in and of itself was problematic prior TO 9-11... but post 9-11, with the paradigm of acceptable risk having dramatically changed; such was no longer acceptable and given Iraqs refusal to comply with US demands in the 18 months Iraq was given to come into compliance... those responsible for the Security of the US determined that the pro-terrorist, Socialist Regime of President Hussein was no longer a tenable circumstance; thus releasing US forces to remove that regime and establish something more conducive to international stability.

Which is what has happened.

The thing about 'direct and indisputable evidence' where cooperation or complicity with proxy warriors is that the proxy relationship is designed and works effectively to prevent the existance of such. So while it is a near certainty that Iraq was working with Al qaeda on 9-11... there is no indisputable evidence of such, but it should be noted that there is a host of evidence, such as Atta's visit to Iraq's embassy, where he met with Iraqi intelligence operators in the months prior to 9-11 as well as the terrorists training camps operating out of Iraq prior to 9-11... and so on.

Those who promote the interests of Islamic terrorism deny these links, but those denials do not serve to discredit such, merely to establish the protestor as being more sensitive to the interests of the terrorists and the Hussein Regime than to the interests of America.

And there's nothing new there...

Those same individuals, without exception, are also advocates of every facet of subversive policy which strikes at the viability of the fabric of the American culture; so their blind defense of international Islamic Terrorism; their incessant attempts to convert those engaged in such from what they are:Mass Murderers, to 'victims', is all one needs to know about them to discount anything they have to add to the discussion.

The sound reasons for removing the regime Hussein were endless... Such has been removed and there are few who will argue that Iraq and the world at large are better off for it.

 

[DiveCon]

did wolf misquote it or am I missing something?

it's out of context

Bullshit. You can see the video if you follow the link in my original post and see Ari Fleisher say the words yourself.

it was something he misstated, and if you had an OUNCE of integrity you would admit that

 

[elvis]

it's out of context

Bullshit. You can see the video if you follow the link in my original post and see Ari Fleisher say the words yourself.

it was something he misstated, and if you had an OUNCE of integrity you would admit that

It's interesting how, in one moment, the Left likes to say Bush is a stuttering idiot, and then in the next breath, take him at his word VERBATIM.