Charlie Kirk Shot and Killed at Utah Valley University

[TemplarKormac]

That the murder of innocent people is worth the price of the 2nd?

Because preserving life is worth the price of the 2nd, pknopp. You miss the entire purpose of what "self-defense" means.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

What a meaningless temark

If it were a democrat that was murdered Mac1958 would have a lot more to say

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Left cultists are so good at meaningless remarks.

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[OODA_Loop]

That the murder of innocent people is worth the price of the 2nd?

The 2nd does not protect your right to assassinate those whose words you don't like.

 

[HikerGuy83]

BRAVO!!!!!

How fun to see you let others do your thinking for you.

While IM2 stupid's post is total garbage, it nonetheless shows he can type more than two sentences before posting.

Something you clearly can't do.

But, I guess we better understand why you come off as such a moron.

BTW: Any link on the shooter being MAGA like you claimed early on?

 

[Rogue AI]

On June 14, 2025, Minnesota state representative Melissa Hortman was assassinated in a shooting at her home in Brooklyn Park, Minnesota, United States. Hortman, the leader of the state House Democratic caucus, was killed alongside her husband, Mark. Earlier that morning, state senator John Hoffman and his wife, Yvette, were shot in their home in nearby Champlin and hospitalized. Police responding to the attack on the Hoffmans checked on the Hortmans' home, where a man fired at them. The shooter escaped, sparking the most extensive manhunt in Minnesota history.<a href="2025 shootings of Minnesota legislators - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a>

The authorities identified 57-year-old Vance Luther Boelter as a suspect and captured him on the evening of June 15 in Green Isle, Minnesota. He was federally charged with murder, stalking, and firearms offenses. The state charged Boelter with two counts of second-degree murder and two counts of attempted second-degree murder. Hennepin County attorney Mary Moriarty announced her intention to upgrade the charges to first-degree murder before a grand jury.<a href="2025 shootings of Minnesota legislators - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a>

John Hoffman is a member of the state's Democratic Party-affiliated DFL, as was Melissa Hortman. Federal charging documents described Boelter as acting with "the intent to kill, injure, harass, and intimidate Minnesota legislators". Governor Tim Walz called the shooting "an act of targeted political violence".<a href="2025 shootings of Minnesota legislators - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a><a href="2025 shootings of Minnesota legislators - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a> Inside Boelter's vehicle was a list of nearly 70 people, including abortion rights advocates, Democratic politicians, and abortion providers

None of which proves your false allegations the shooter had any rightwing motivations.

 

[playtime]

There is no evidence the person being threatened ever owned a gun.

maybe not ... but it still matters not to gun nuts.

 

[pknopp]

No More Inhumane Than Killing a Dog with Rabies

For our own safety, we need to get rid of the insanity defense. If someone is capable of shooting a gun, he is qualified for the death penalty. Insane people wouldn't be competent to shoot anybody.

what does that have to do with what happened today?

 

[Delldude]

If something is true, then you're just stating a fact. Trump is most definitely a fascist, but he's not a dictator yet, because we still have some checks in place, although these are being eroded every day by his rogue administration and rogue Supreme court.

 

[conserveguy877]

This will be forever in our American history books. The new generation of young voters he influenced will carry on his legacy much stronger now.

 

[mudwhistle]

 

[Godboy]

Kirk once stated that gun deaths are a prudent and rational price to pay in order to protect the Second Amendment and our other rights. Well, he got his wish. This is the kind of chaos you create when you spend years churning out one extreme, divisive talking point after another. You literally attract crazy to you.

Its your parties extreme ideology that killed Kirk, not ours. Your party and your media are going to take all the blame for this. Get ready man. An irate mob with pitchforks is coming for you guys and we hold all the power in the government.

 

[Chuz Life]

Common sense gun control.

Layout the spefic gun law that would have prevented this shooting.

Sidestep it, and I'll just put you on ignore.

 

[excalibur]

I hope they catch the cowardly scumbag.

He's probably out of the country by now. This speaks of professionalism.

I hope I am wrong, but it stinks.

 

[TemplarKormac]

It will take many forms....political action, community action....unfortunately some may be pushed to choose violent retribution.

We can take the path Charlie chose. What he was doing was working.

 

[Invisibleflash]

I really believe that we should get together and agree to not respond to any of their threads. If we do not respond, their threads will fall off the 1st page and end up dead.

Bub, you want to say something, then do so. But you people are computer addicts. Have your say and that is it if you are dealing with scum. Get a life that does not revolve around wasting time arguing with IM2 idiots.

 

[pknopp]

Because preserving life is worth the price of the 2nd, pknopp. You miss the entire purpose of what "self-defense" means.

I support the 2nd. The statement wasn't made by me.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

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IT'S NOT GUN VIOLENCE. IT'S DEMOCRAT VIOLENCE.

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[Man With A Plan]

The left have pushed a message of violence every time they don't get their way at the polls...all the while claiming that it's the right that's violent. I'm sick of it. Anyone who's voting for Democrats these days should be ashamed of themselves. THEY are the threat to democracy and have been for years now!

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

it looks like I’ve been the only moderator on the site for a while and unfortunately, I have a real job that I need to get back to. I expect you kids to behave yourselves and no wild parties.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Are you this mournful for all death, or just the elite ones you personally agree w/and like?

Who morns for people they don't care about?