Charlie Kirk Asked If Israeli Government Gave "Stand-Down" Order Allowing 10/7 Attack Before He Was Hit

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Israel is losing MAGA youth. Charlie making an open break with Israel would have been disastrous for Israel.

Charlie Kirk Asked If Israeli Government Gave "Stand-Down" Order Allowing 10/7 Attack Before He Was Hit


Charlie Kirk asked this summer if there ā€œwas there a stand-downā€ order on October 7, meaning an order from Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) command designed to facilitate the Hamas attack. This is what IDF soldier Sgt. Shalom Sheetrit in essence testified to before the Knesset recently.

The story of Charlie Kirk breaking away from his previous pro-Israel line has been picked up by Glenn Greenwald and Chris Hedges. Kirk and his young Republicans at the extraordinarily powerful TPUSA had joined Tucker Carlson’s disgust with the amazingly brutal starvation-genocide of Gaza, and disgust with Israel’s grip on US politics.

It is no secret that the Israeli intelligence agency Shin Bet has said in a report that Netanyahu enabled October 7. Gen. Mike Flynn has been saying this from the start.

Below source: The Freedom Articles

Jimmy Dore: Israeli Soldier Sgt. Shalom Sheetrit Testifies That on 10/7 His Unit Received a ā€œStrangeā€ Order to Cancel Patrols Where Netanyahu-Backed Hamas Breached





On July 17, 2025 Israeli News 7 reported that Sgt. Shalom Sheetrit told the Israeli Knesset:

ā€œWe were playing on the phone [at 5:20 a.m.] and suddenly a strange message comes from my battalion commander…And what he says on the call is something like this: ā€˜I don’t know why, but an order was issued that there are no patrols at the fence until nine in the morning….ā€

Sheetrit said:

ā€œAnd Tomer gives us this look like, What? You know, we’re simple soldiers, just combatants. we’re infantry, not commanders or officers who can ask questions, right? It’s an order from the deputy battalion commander. we take the order and and don’t ask questions …and sure enough exactly an hour later suddenly sirens….ā€

Below: Shalom Sheetrit: IDF Soldier Testifies to Knesset That His Unit Was Given ā€œStrangeā€ Order on 10/7 to cancel critical fence patrol. Includes audiotape of direct order.




The Gray Zone: Charlie Kirk refused Netanyahu funding offer, was ā€˜frightened’ by pro-Israel forces before death, friend reveals

BY
MAX BLUMENTHAL AND ANYA PARAMPILĀ·SEPTEMBER 12, 2025

ā€œA Trump insider and longtime friend of Charlie Kirk tells The Grayzone how the assassinated conservative leader’s turning point on Israeli influence provoked a private backlash from Netanyahu’s allies that left him angry and afraid.

The source said anxiety spread within the Trump administration after an apparent Israeli spying operation was uncovered.
Charlie Kirk rejected an offer earlier this year from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to arrange a massive new infusion of Zionist money into his Turning Point USA (TPUSA) organization, America’s largest conservative youth association, according to a longtime friend of the slain commentator speaking on the condition of anonymity. The source told The Grayzone that the late pro-Trump influencer believed Netanyahu was trying to cow him into silence as he began to publicly question Israel’s overwhelming influence in Washington and demanded more space to criticize it.

In the weeks leading up to his September 10 assassination, Kirk had come to loathe the Israeli leader, regarding him as a ā€œbully,ā€ the source said. Kirk was disgusted by what he witnessed inside the Trump administration, where Netanyahu sought to personally dictate the president’s personnel decisions, and weaponized Israeli assets like billionaire donor Miriam Adelson to keep the White House firmly under its thumb.

According to Kirk’s friend, who also enjoyed access to President Donald Trump and his inner circle, Kirk strongly warned Trump last June against bombing Iran on Israel’s behalf. ā€œCharlie was the only person who did that,ā€ they said, recalling how Trump ā€œbarked at himā€ in response and angrily shut down the conversation. The source believes the incident confirmed in Kirk’s mind that the president of the United States had fallen under the control of a malign foreign power, and was leading his own country into a series of disastrous conflicts.

By the following month, Kirk had become the target of a sustained private campaign of intimidation and free-floating fury by wealthy and powerful allies of Netanyahu – figures he described in an interview as Jewish ā€œleadersā€ and ā€œstakeholders.ā€

ā€œHe was afraid of them,ā€ the source emphasized.

At TPUSA, the rift with Israel widens

Kirk was 18 years old when he launched TPUSA in 2012. From its inception, his career was propelled by Zionist donors, who showered his young organization with money through neoconservative outfits like the David Horowitz Freedom Center. He repaid his wealthy backers over the years by unleashing a relentless firehose of anti-Palestinian and Islamophobic diatribes, accepting propaganda trips to Israel, and sternly shutting down nationalist forces challenging his support for Israel during TPUSA events. In the Trump era, few American gentiles had proved more valuable to the self-proclaimed Jewish state than Charlie Kirk.

But as Israel’s genocidal assault on the besieged Gaza Strip drove an unprecedented backlash within grassroots right-wing circles, where only 24% of younger Republicans now sympathize with Israel over the Palestinians, Kirk began to shift. At times, he toed the Israeli line, spreading disinformation about babies beheaded by Hamas on October 7, and denying the famine imposed on the population of Gaza. Yet he simultaneously ceded to his base, wondering aloud if Jeffrey Epstein was an Israeli intelligence asset, questioning whether the Israeli government allowed the October 7 attacks to proceed in order to advance long-term political goals, and parroting narratives familiar to his most vociferous critic on the right, streamer Nick Fuentes. ā€œ


In 2023, soon after the 10/7 attack, former Director of the US Defense Intelligence Agency Gen. Flynn said in an interview:

ā€œThere was a decision made to have a security stand-down on the 7th of October for 7 hours on the southern zone….up against the fence line against the Gaza strip, and I’m telling you folks, that wasn’t done by happenstance and that’s not a coincidence. Somebody made that decision, don’t know if Netanyahu made it, or the Southern Zone commander who made it, but somebody made itā€¦ā€
Glenn Greenwald: Charlie Kirk was turning against Israel before he was assassinated

Chris Hedges interviews Max Blumenthal on Charlie Kirk’s growing disillusionment with Israel and his hatred of Netanyahu
 
Israel is losing MAGA youth. Charlie making an open break with Israel would have been disastrous for Israel.

Charlie Kirk Asked If Israeli Government Gave "Stand-Down" Order Allowing 10/7 Attack Before He Was Hit


Charlie Kirk asked this summer if there ā€œwas there a stand-downā€ order on October 7, meaning an order from Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) command designed to facilitate the Hamas attack. This is what IDF soldier Sgt. Shalom Sheetrit in essence testified to before the Knesset recently.

The story of Charlie Kirk breaking away from his previous pro-Israel line has been picked up by Glenn Greenwald and Chris Hedges. Kirk and his young Republicans at the extraordinarily powerful TPUSA had joined Tucker Carlson’s disgust with the amazingly brutal starvation-genocide of Gaza, and disgust with Israel’s grip on US politics.

It is no secret that the Israeli intelligence agency Shin Bet has said in a report that Netanyahu enabled October 7. Gen. Mike Flynn has been saying this from the start.

Below source: The Freedom Articles

Jimmy Dore: Israeli Soldier Sgt. Shalom Sheetrit Testifies That on 10/7 His Unit Received a ā€œStrangeā€ Order to Cancel Patrols Where Netanyahu-Backed Hamas Breached





On July 17, 2025 Israeli News 7 reported that Sgt. Shalom Sheetrit told the Israeli Knesset:

ā€œWe were playing on the phone [at 5:20 a.m.] and suddenly a strange message comes from my battalion commander…And what he says on the call is something like this: ā€˜I don’t know why, but an order was issued that there are no patrols at the fence until nine in the morning….ā€

Sheetrit said:

ā€œAnd Tomer gives us this look like, What? You know, we’re simple soldiers, just combatants. we’re infantry, not commanders or officers who can ask questions, right? It’s an order from the deputy battalion commander. we take the order and and don’t ask questions …and sure enough exactly an hour later suddenly sirens….ā€

Below: Shalom Sheetrit: IDF Soldier Testifies to Knesset That His Unit Was Given ā€œStrangeā€ Order on 10/7 to cancel critical fence patrol. Includes audiotape of direct order.




The Gray Zone: Charlie Kirk refused Netanyahu funding offer, was ā€˜frightened’ by pro-Israel forces before death, friend reveals

BY
MAX BLUMENTHAL AND ANYA PARAMPILĀ·SEPTEMBER 12, 2025

ā€œA Trump insider and longtime friend of Charlie Kirk tells The Grayzone how the assassinated conservative leader’s turning point on Israeli influence provoked a private backlash from Netanyahu’s allies that left him angry and afraid.

The source said anxiety spread within the Trump administration after an apparent Israeli spying operation was uncovered.
Charlie Kirk rejected an offer earlier this year from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to arrange a massive new infusion of Zionist money into his Turning Point USA (TPUSA) organization, America’s largest conservative youth association, according to a longtime friend of the slain commentator speaking on the condition of anonymity. The source told The Grayzone that the late pro-Trump influencer believed Netanyahu was trying to cow him into silence as he began to publicly question Israel’s overwhelming influence in Washington and demanded more space to criticize it.

In the weeks leading up to his September 10 assassination, Kirk had come to loathe the Israeli leader, regarding him as a ā€œbully,ā€ the source said. Kirk was disgusted by what he witnessed inside the Trump administration, where Netanyahu sought to personally dictate the president’s personnel decisions, and weaponized Israeli assets like billionaire donor Miriam Adelson to keep the White House firmly under its thumb.

According to Kirk’s friend, who also enjoyed access to President Donald Trump and his inner circle, Kirk strongly warned Trump last June against bombing Iran on Israel’s behalf. ā€œCharlie was the only person who did that,ā€ they said, recalling how Trump ā€œbarked at himā€ in response and angrily shut down the conversation. The source believes the incident confirmed in Kirk’s mind that the president of the United States had fallen under the control of a malign foreign power, and was leading his own country into a series of disastrous conflicts.

By the following month, Kirk had become the target of a sustained private campaign of intimidation and free-floating fury by wealthy and powerful allies of Netanyahu – figures he described in an interview as Jewish ā€œleadersā€ and ā€œstakeholders.ā€

ā€œHe was afraid of them,ā€ the source emphasized.

At TPUSA, the rift with Israel widens

Kirk was 18 years old when he launched TPUSA in 2012. From its inception, his career was propelled by Zionist donors, who showered his young organization with money through neoconservative outfits like the David Horowitz Freedom Center. He repaid his wealthy backers over the years by unleashing a relentless firehose of anti-Palestinian and Islamophobic diatribes, accepting propaganda trips to Israel, and sternly shutting down nationalist forces challenging his support for Israel during TPUSA events. In the Trump era, few American gentiles had proved more valuable to the self-proclaimed Jewish state than Charlie Kirk.

But as Israel’s genocidal assault on the besieged Gaza Strip drove an unprecedented backlash within grassroots right-wing circles, where only 24% of younger Republicans now sympathize with Israel over the Palestinians, Kirk began to shift. At times, he toed the Israeli line, spreading disinformation about babies beheaded by Hamas on October 7, and denying the famine imposed on the population of Gaza. Yet he simultaneously ceded to his base, wondering aloud if Jeffrey Epstein was an Israeli intelligence asset, questioning whether the Israeli government allowed the October 7 attacks to proceed in order to advance long-term political goals, and parroting narratives familiar to his most vociferous critic on the right, streamer Nick Fuentes. ā€œ


In 2023, soon after the 10/7 attack, former Director of the US Defense Intelligence Agency Gen. Flynn said in an interview:

ā€œThere was a decision made to have a security stand-down on the 7th of October for 7 hours on the southern zone….up against the fence line against the Gaza strip, and I’m telling you folks, that wasn’t done by happenstance and that’s not a coincidence. Somebody made that decision, don’t know if Netanyahu made it, or the Southern Zone commander who made it, but somebody made itā€¦ā€
Glenn Greenwald: Charlie Kirk was turning against Israel before he was assassinated

Chris Hedges interviews Max Blumenthal on Charlie Kirk’s growing disillusionment with Israel and his hatred of Netanyahu

Probably was influenced by Candice Owens
 
Israel is losing MAGA youth. Charlie making an open break with Israel would have been disastrous for Israel.

Charlie Kirk Asked If Israeli Government Gave "Stand-Down" Order Allowing 10/7 Attack Before He Was Hit


Charlie Kirk asked this summer if there ā€œwas there a stand-downā€ order on October 7, meaning an order from Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) command designed to facilitate the Hamas attack. This is what IDF soldier Sgt. Shalom Sheetrit in essence testified to before the Knesset recently.

The story of Charlie Kirk breaking away from his previous pro-Israel line has been picked up by Glenn Greenwald and Chris Hedges. Kirk and his young Republicans at the extraordinarily powerful TPUSA had joined Tucker Carlson’s disgust with the amazingly brutal starvation-genocide of Gaza, and disgust with Israel’s grip on US politics.

It is no secret that the Israeli intelligence agency Shin Bet has said in a report that Netanyahu enabled October 7. Gen. Mike Flynn has been saying this from the start.

Below source: The Freedom Articles

Jimmy Dore: Israeli Soldier Sgt. Shalom Sheetrit Testifies That on 10/7 His Unit Received a ā€œStrangeā€ Order to Cancel Patrols Where Netanyahu-Backed Hamas Breached





On July 17, 2025 Israeli News 7 reported that Sgt. Shalom Sheetrit told the Israeli Knesset:

ā€œWe were playing on the phone [at 5:20 a.m.] and suddenly a strange message comes from my battalion commander…And what he says on the call is something like this: ā€˜I don’t know why, but an order was issued that there are no patrols at the fence until nine in the morning….ā€

Sheetrit said:

ā€œAnd Tomer gives us this look like, What? You know, we’re simple soldiers, just combatants. we’re infantry, not commanders or officers who can ask questions, right? It’s an order from the deputy battalion commander. we take the order and and don’t ask questions …and sure enough exactly an hour later suddenly sirens….ā€

Below: Shalom Sheetrit: IDF Soldier Testifies to Knesset That His Unit Was Given ā€œStrangeā€ Order on 10/7 to cancel critical fence patrol. Includes audiotape of direct order.




The Gray Zone: Charlie Kirk refused Netanyahu funding offer, was ā€˜frightened’ by pro-Israel forces before death, friend reveals

BY
MAX BLUMENTHAL AND ANYA PARAMPILĀ·SEPTEMBER 12, 2025

ā€œA Trump insider and longtime friend of Charlie Kirk tells The Grayzone how the assassinated conservative leader’s turning point on Israeli influence provoked a private backlash from Netanyahu’s allies that left him angry and afraid.

The source said anxiety spread within the Trump administration after an apparent Israeli spying operation was uncovered.
Charlie Kirk rejected an offer earlier this year from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to arrange a massive new infusion of Zionist money into his Turning Point USA (TPUSA) organization, America’s largest conservative youth association, according to a longtime friend of the slain commentator speaking on the condition of anonymity. The source told The Grayzone that the late pro-Trump influencer believed Netanyahu was trying to cow him into silence as he began to publicly question Israel’s overwhelming influence in Washington and demanded more space to criticize it.

In the weeks leading up to his September 10 assassination, Kirk had come to loathe the Israeli leader, regarding him as a ā€œbully,ā€ the source said. Kirk was disgusted by what he witnessed inside the Trump administration, where Netanyahu sought to personally dictate the president’s personnel decisions, and weaponized Israeli assets like billionaire donor Miriam Adelson to keep the White House firmly under its thumb.

According to Kirk’s friend, who also enjoyed access to President Donald Trump and his inner circle, Kirk strongly warned Trump last June against bombing Iran on Israel’s behalf. ā€œCharlie was the only person who did that,ā€ they said, recalling how Trump ā€œbarked at himā€ in response and angrily shut down the conversation. The source believes the incident confirmed in Kirk’s mind that the president of the United States had fallen under the control of a malign foreign power, and was leading his own country into a series of disastrous conflicts.

By the following month, Kirk had become the target of a sustained private campaign of intimidation and free-floating fury by wealthy and powerful allies of Netanyahu – figures he described in an interview as Jewish ā€œleadersā€ and ā€œstakeholders.ā€

ā€œHe was afraid of them,ā€ the source emphasized.

At TPUSA, the rift with Israel widens

Kirk was 18 years old when he launched TPUSA in 2012. From its inception, his career was propelled by Zionist donors, who showered his young organization with money through neoconservative outfits like the David Horowitz Freedom Center. He repaid his wealthy backers over the years by unleashing a relentless firehose of anti-Palestinian and Islamophobic diatribes, accepting propaganda trips to Israel, and sternly shutting down nationalist forces challenging his support for Israel during TPUSA events. In the Trump era, few American gentiles had proved more valuable to the self-proclaimed Jewish state than Charlie Kirk.

But as Israel’s genocidal assault on the besieged Gaza Strip drove an unprecedented backlash within grassroots right-wing circles, where only 24% of younger Republicans now sympathize with Israel over the Palestinians, Kirk began to shift. At times, he toed the Israeli line, spreading disinformation about babies beheaded by Hamas on October 7, and denying the famine imposed on the population of Gaza. Yet he simultaneously ceded to his base, wondering aloud if Jeffrey Epstein was an Israeli intelligence asset, questioning whether the Israeli government allowed the October 7 attacks to proceed in order to advance long-term political goals, and parroting narratives familiar to his most vociferous critic on the right, streamer Nick Fuentes. ā€œ


In 2023, soon after the 10/7 attack, former Director of the US Defense Intelligence Agency Gen. Flynn said in an interview:

ā€œThere was a decision made to have a security stand-down on the 7th of October for 7 hours on the southern zone….up against the fence line against the Gaza strip, and I’m telling you folks, that wasn’t done by happenstance and that’s not a coincidence. Somebody made that decision, don’t know if Netanyahu made it, or the Southern Zone commander who made it, but somebody made itā€¦ā€
Glenn Greenwald: Charlie Kirk was turning against Israel before he was assassinated

Chris Hedges interviews Max Blumenthal on Charlie Kirk’s growing disillusionment with Israel and his hatred of Netanyahu

If you start with the belief that Israel has any interest in Maga youth then are already lost.
 
When Zionist Fascism does something like this, they spread "alternative conspiracies" to cover their tracks...

For JFK, it was

KKK
Mafia
Cuba
Soviets


to cover for Mossad.
 
If you start with the belief that Israel has any interest in Maga youth then are already lost.
It's not like Israel needs the US, right?

Hoping to win back young Republican support, Israel invites MAGA influencers

"Hoping to Win Back Young Republican Support, Israel Invites MAGA Influencers​

"Israel's Foreign Ministry has funneled tens of thousands of dollars for about a dozen influencers to visit Israel through Israel365, a pro-settlement organization attempting to bolster evangelical support for the Jewish State."
 
It's not like Israel needs the US, right?

Hoping to win back young Republican support, Israel invites MAGA influencers

"Hoping to Win Back Young Republican Support, Israel Invites MAGA Influencers​

"Israel's Foreign Ministry has funneled tens of thousands of dollars for about a dozen influencers to visit Israel through Israel365, a pro-settlement organization attempting to bolster evangelical support for the Jewish State."
The political and pr moves you cite are part of a broader conflict. Israel is not interested in the ideological specific or specified demographic, but in developing a spectrum of strategies which have niche appeal to the widest assortment of groups.
 
The political and pr moves you cite are part of a broader conflict. Israel is not interested in the ideological specific or specified demographic, but in developing a spectrum of strategies which have niche appeal to the widest assortment of groups.
What sort of niche appeal does the genocide in Gaza offer, those who believe in Israel first and America second?

The world sees the racist Zionist state for what it has been for the last hundred years, and it won't be allowed to exist in its present Jewish-supremacist abomination.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-rele...itted-genocide-gaza-strip-un-commission-finds
 
What sort of niche appeal does the genocide in Gaza offer, those who believe in Israel first and America second?
Way to jump away from the conversation at hand.
The world sees the racist Zionist state for what it has been for the last hundred years, and it won't be allowed to exist in its present Jewish-supremacist abomination.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-rele...itted-genocide-gaza-strip-un-commission-finds
 
Way to jump away from the conversation at hand.

You made the claim: "If you start with the belief that Israel has any interest in MAGA youth then (you) are already lost."

Israel would be a bloody sh*t stain on the edge of the Mediterranean without US support, and there are good reasons to suspect some MAGA youth no longer support the Jewish supremacist state.
 
You made the claim: "If you start with the belief that Israel has any interest in MAGA youth then (you) are already lost."

Israel would be a bloody sh*t stain on the edge of the Mediterranean without US support, and there are good reasons to suspect some MAGA youth no longer support the Jewish supremacist state.

But none of that supports what you claimed. Israel has no interest in the specifics of American politics. Israel works to use the specific messaging of different groups so as to keep all groups connected to Israel.
 
But none of that supports what you claimed. Israel has no interest in the specifics of American politics. Israel works to use the specific messaging of different groups so as to keep all groups connected to Israel.
What interest in the specifics of American politics does AIPAC take?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/09/aipac-republican-donors-democratic-primaries-00162404

"The American Israel Public Affairs Committee has become a fundraising juggernaut in recent years, raising more money for candidates than any similar organization this cycle as part of its mission to back candidates who support Israel.

"It’s the rare political organization that still garners support from Republican and Democratic donors while supporting candidates from both parties.

"But its primary focus has been leveraging its weight in competitive Democratic primaries, spending millions to boost moderates over progressives who have been critical of Israel."
 
What interest in the specifics of American politics does AIPAC take?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/09/aipac-republican-donors-democratic-primaries-00162404

"The American Israel Public Affairs Committee has become a fundraising juggernaut in recent years, raising more money for candidates than any similar organization this cycle as part of its mission to back candidates who support Israel.

"It’s the rare political organization that still garners support from Republican and Democratic donors while supporting candidates from both parties.

"But its primary focus has been leveraging its weight in competitive Democratic primaries, spending millions to boost moderates over progressives who have been critical of Israel."
Jeepers, swing and a miss. You should read what you just quoted.

"It’s the rare political organization that still garners support from Republican and Democratic donors while supporting candidates from both parties."

Which is exactly my point. Thank you.
 
It's a crazy theory and most likely part spin and part manufactured by something called "corona.news.word press". Maybe FDR set the stage for Pearl Harbor but why is it an issue? Is it alleged that Israel was asking for an attack?
 
15th post
What's the point of quirky allegations directed at Kirk? Doesn't the radical left have enough on it's plate these days than try to spin some of Kirk's statements?
 

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