Changes in the intensity of the Sun?

[whitehall]

When you google "the intensity of the Sun" you get mostly gibberish or propaganda but no real data. Apparently there is no scientific assessment available to the public regarding the (changing ?) intensity of the force that regulates life on Earth. A relatively recent geophysical event that shifted the axis of the earth in the Fukashima earthquake failed to get the attention of NASA geeks. Shouldn't the couple of degrees shift in the world's axis uncover certain areas that were once frigid and influence geothermal shifts? It seems that there is no data available to the public that pertains to the radiation from the Sun and it's effect on global warming other than propaganda.

 

[progressive hunter]

When you google "the intensity of the Sun" you get mostly gibberish or propaganda but no real data. Apparently there is no scientific assessment available to the public regarding the (changing ?) intensity of the force that regulates life on Earth. A relatively recent geophysical event that shifted the axis of the earth in the Fukashima earthquake failed to get the attention of NASA geeks. Shouldn't the couple of degrees shift in the world's axis uncover certain areas that were once frigid and influence geothermal shifts? It seems that there is no data available to the public that pertains to the radiation from the Sun and it's effect on global warming other than propaganda.

most dont realize the earth we live on has an expiration date,, the problem is we dont know what it is,,,

the sun is just one of the problems,,,

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

 

[toobfreak]

When you google "the intensity of the Sun" you get mostly gibberish or propaganda but no real data. Apparently there is no scientific assessment available to the public regarding the (changing ?) intensity of the force that regulates life on Earth. A relatively recent geophysical event that shifted the axis of the earth in the Fukashima earthquake failed to get the attention of NASA geeks. Shouldn't the couple of degrees shift in the world's axis uncover certain areas that were once frigid and influence geothermal shifts? It seems that there is no data available to the public that pertains to the radiation from the Sun and it's effect on global warming other than propaganda.

The Sun is a weak variable but its essentially steady output is what has allowed life to develop over billions of years. If you know where to look, you can find data.

Under a Variable Sun

In their continued effort to understand the Sun, solar physicists of the 21st century have used satellite data to study how much energy reaches the outskirts of the Earth’s atmosphere and whether or how much that amount varies over time. Recently published research claims that the amount of...

earthobservatory.nasa.gov

Solar Variability and Terrestrial Climate - NASA Science

Jan. 8, 2013: In the galactic scheme of things, the Sun is a remarkably constant star. While some stars exhibit dramatic pulsations, wildly yo-yoing in size

science.nasa.gov

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A relatively recent geophysical event that shifted the axis of the earth in the Fukashima earthquake failed to get the attention of NASA geeks. Shouldn't the couple of degrees shift in the world's axis uncover certain areas that were once frigid and influence geothermal shifts?

Couple of degrees shift? When?

 

[ReinyDays]

The Sun is a weak variable but its essentially steady output is what has allowed life to develop over billions of years. If you know where to look, you can find data.

Solar output is constant ... about 1,360 (± 10) W/m^2 ... in never moves to 1,350 or 1,370 in less than 10 million years ... yes, we do have sensitive instruments that can measure this value far more closely, and we can see tenths of W/m^2 changes ... but we measure temperature here on Earth only to the nearest whole degree, so tiny changes in solar output doesn't have a measureable effect on temperature on Earth ...

This is information usually found in basic textbooks on the subject ... it can be Googled but the information will be buried deep within a large PDF file and unlikely to get a hit from a search ... the only hits we'll get are the crazy nonsense with the click-bait titles ... actual climatology uses the Solar Constant, 1,360 (± 10) W/m^2 ... accept no other ...

 

[Indeependent]

That's it...I'm cancelling all of my subscriptions!

 

[ReinyDays]

A relatively recent geophysical event that shifted the axis of the earth in the Fukashima earthquake failed to get the attention of NASA geeks. Shouldn't the couple of degrees shift in the world's axis uncover certain areas that were once frigid and influence geothermal shifts?

Couple of degrees shift? When?

These large earthquakes didn't change the angle to the axis of rotation ... they caused the Earth to spin a bit faster around it's rotation ... similar to a figure skates pulling her arms in when she's spinning ... conservation of angular momentum ...

Again ... basic facts given within basic textbooks that Google won't provide hits for ... google only returns the click-bait ...

 

[toobfreak]

The Sun is a weak variable but its essentially steady output is what has allowed life to develop over billions of years. If you know where to look, you can find data.

Solar output is constant ... about 1,360 (± 10) W/m^2 ... in never moves to 1,350 or 1,370 in less than 10 million years ... yes, we do have sensitive instruments that can measure this value far more closely, and we can see tenths of W/m^2 changes ... but we measure temperature here on Earth only to the nearest whole degree, so tiny changes in solar output doesn't have a measureable effect on temperature on Earth ...

This is information usually found in basic textbooks on the subject ... it can be Googled but the information will be buried deep within a large PDF file and unlikely to get a hit from a search ... the only hits we'll get are the crazy nonsense with the click-bait titles ... actual climatology uses the Solar Constant, 1,360 (± 10) W/m^2 ... accept no other ...

Yes, the sun varies between 1.361 to 1.362 kilowatts per square meter absolute radiative pressure over the past measurable centuries, affected mainly by the position within the sunspot cycle, but over time, solar output is naturally going up as well having gained about 25% of its current output over roughly the last 4 billion years as used up mass slowly gives way to greater luminosity, which of course is unobservable on human times scales.

 

[ReinyDays]

Yes, the sun varies between 1.361 to 1.362 kilowatts per square meter absolute radiative pressure over the past measurable centuries, affected mainly by the position within the sunspot cycle, but over time, solar output is naturally going up as well having gained about 25% of its current output over roughly the last 4 billion years as used up mass slowly gives way to greater luminosity, which of course is unobservable on human times scales.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this strictly dependent on solar surface temperature? ... or "photosphere" ... and that any change in solar temperature large enough to cause a single degree difference on Earth would be so extreme as to cause a major change in equilibrium? ... in my mind's eye I see the Sun pulsing in-and-out millions of miles just shreding herself to pieces ...

 

[abu afak]

When you google "the intensity of the Sun" you get mostly gibberish or propaganda but no real data. Apparently there is no scientific assessment available to the public regarding the (changing ?) intensity of the force that regulates life on Earth. A relatively recent geophysical event that shifted the axis of the earth in the Fukashima earthquake failed to get the attention of NASA geeks. Shouldn't the couple of degrees shift in the world's axis uncover certain areas that were once frigid and influence geothermal shifts? It seems that there is no data available to the public that pertains to the radiation from the Sun and it's effect on global warming other than propaganda.

You're a 12 IQ ***hole.

solar radiation nasa - Google Search

First up:

https://earth.gsfc.nasa.gov/climate/research/solar-radiation

Return to your numb nuts posture.
EVERY Climate scientist knows this and they have used 'Radiation received' to show that the current multi-decadal warming was Not caused by Solar forcing (as past ones) but our increasingly thick blanket of GHGs

That's right you dip**** you're the only one who thought of it.

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[CrusaderFrank]

When you google "the intensity of the Sun" you get mostly gibberish or propaganda but no real data. Apparently there is no scientific assessment available to the public regarding the (changing ?) intensity of the force that regulates life on Earth. A relatively recent geophysical event that shifted the axis of the earth in the Fukashima earthquake failed to get the attention of NASA geeks. Shouldn't the couple of degrees shift in the world's axis uncover certain areas that were once frigid and influence geothermal shifts? It seems that there is no data available to the public that pertains to the radiation from the Sun and it's effect on global warming other than propaganda.

CO2 affects that

 

[toobfreak]

Yes, the sun varies between 1.361 to 1.362 kilowatts per square meter absolute radiative pressure over the past measurable centuries, affected mainly by the position within the sunspot cycle, but over time, solar output is naturally going up as well having gained about 25% of its current output over roughly the last 4 billion years as used up mass slowly gives way to greater luminosity, which of course is unobservable on human times scales.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this strictly dependent on solar surface temperature? ... or "photosphere" ... and that any change in solar temperature large enough to cause a single degree difference on Earth would be so extreme as to cause a major change in equilibrium? ... in my mind's eye I see the Sun pulsing in-and-out millions of miles just shreding herself to pieces ...

Well, you are getting back to the "climate" aspects here on Earth and to that I can't say. But it's all kind of tied together, as solar mass goes down / gets used up, inward pressure lightens which allows a greater fusion of hydrogen into helium while at the same time providing less of an obstruction to the photons radiating out which might takes hundreds of thousands to millions of years to work and find their way up and out of the Sun, which of course as the photon flux density increases, so does the cellular churning and convection inside leading to additional heating at the surface, the sun gets brighter to us, hotter at the surface and output goes up. I don't think you can separate any of these; as one happens you get them all.

 

[whitehall]

A relatively recent geophysical event that shifted the axis of the earth in the Fukashima earthquake failed to get the attention of NASA geeks. Shouldn't the couple of degrees shift in the world's axis uncover certain areas that were once frigid and influence geothermal shifts?

Couple of degrees shift? When?

About 6 inches and change after the Fukashima earthquake of 2011.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A relatively recent geophysical event that shifted the axis of the earth in the Fukashima earthquake failed to get the attention of NASA geeks. Shouldn't the couple of degrees shift in the world's axis uncover certain areas that were once frigid and influence geothermal shifts?

Couple of degrees shift? When?

About 6 inches and change after the Fukashima earthquake of 2011.

6 inches is very far from a couple of degrees.

 

[ReinyDays]

About 6 inches and change after the Fukashima earthquake of 2011.

6 inches of what? ... that's a linear dimension, not angular ...

 

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[ReinyDays]

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Charts are pretty, but let's see the math ... no correlation is there? ... 1,360 W/m^2 then, now, and in the future ...

 

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Charts are pretty, but let's see the math ... no correlation is there? ... 1,360 W/m^2 then, now, and in the future ...

Math is for eggheads.

 

[harmonica]

..it's all Goebbel's propaganda