Capitalism vs Socialism

[dblack]

It's important to note. Everyone proclaims Capitalism is all of that but yet no one actually practices it.

That's trivial pronouncement. It's like saying, "No one is every truly free". So what? Is freedom a goal worth aspiring to? Or should we just throw up our arms and accept a totalitarian state?

Why is that "important to note"?

 

[georgephillip]

Capitalism is contracts between the employee and the company, Communism is the forced labor of workers at the point of the gun...

Your definition applies to the Soviet version of communism; here's a more accurate description:

Communism | Definition, History, Varieties, & Facts

"Communism, political and economic doctrine that aims to replace private property and a profit-based economy with public ownership and communal control of at least the major means of production (e.g., mines, mills, and factories) and the natural resources of a society.

"Communism is thus a form of socialism—a higher and more advanced form, according to its advocates.

"Exactly how communism differs from socialism has long been a matter of debate, but the distinction rests largely on the communists’ adherence to the revolutionary socialism of Karl Marx."

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

You see, it's an interesting thing,
under capitalism the will of the minority is the law,
and under socialism the will of the majority is totalitarianism and dictatorship ....

Well that's wrong as fuck, capitalism is driven by what the masses want and need. If it wasn't we wouldn't be discussing this issue on this site using the various technological devices we have. Capitalism is innovation.

With Socialism you get what the State wants you to have. There is no incentive for innovation.

 

[pknopp]

That's trivial pronouncement. It's like saying, "No one is every truly free". So what? Is freedom a goal worth aspiring to? Or should we just throw up our arms and accept a totalitarian state?

Why is that "important to note"?

We aren't aspiring to anything. You support your type of Socialism while others supports theirs. You just pretend you don't.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Capitalism pays for Socialism. The more economies move in the direction of socialism, the less of a middle class and less opportunity for small businesses to thrive. In more socialist economies, Corporate Cronyism thrives while a true 1 percent wealthy elite is locked in. The progressive liberal elites in the US love to demonize Capitalism to move more towards Socialism. Class envy is not a basis for economic prosperity.

 

[dblack]

We aren't aspiring to anything.

Speak for yourself.

You support your type of Socialism while others supports theirs. You just pretend you don't.

Sure, sure. You know me so well.

Still no point to your trolling?

 

[pknopp]

Speak for yourself.

Sure, sure. You know me so well.

Still no point to your trolling?

You've not denied anything I've said I'll note.

 

[dblack]

You've not denied anything I've said I'll note.

You've not said anything.

 

[pknopp]

You've not said anything.

And yet I have.

 

[dblack]

And yet I have.

No, you quipped a vague platitude. One that is apparently some kind of gotcha I'm the minds of liberals, but meaningless on examination. What is it you think you're saying? Obviously capitalism exists. Are you just saying it doesn't exist in a pure form? So what? No "ism" does. You can make the same inane comment about socialism, or pacifism, or liberalism etc, etc, etc....

Again, what is the point?

 

[pknopp]

No, you quipped a vague platitude. One that is apparently some kind of gotcha I'm the minds of liberals, but meaningless on examination. What is it you think you're saying? Obviously capitalism exists. Are you just saying it doesn't exist in a pure form? So what? No "ism" does. You can make the same inane comment about socialism, or pacifism, or liberalism etc, etc, etc....

Again, what is the point?

Liberals? I support actual Capitalism.

You know, the one where if your business fails you don't run to the taxpayers to bail you out?

Are you familiar with the concept?

 

[dblack]

Liberals? I support actual Capitalism.

You know, the one where if your business fails you don't run to the taxpayers to bail you out?

Me too. So why won't you answer my question? What is the point of saying "capitalism doesn't exist"?

 

[pknopp]

Me too. So why won't you answer my question? What is the point of saying "capitalism doesn't exist"?

I answered. Because it doesn't so I don't see the point of trying to compare the two as it's never going to exist.

 

[dblack]

I answered. Because it doesn't so I don't see the point of trying to compare the two as it's never going to exist.

What two things?? Why are you being so evasive? It sounds like might actually agree, but you're being so weird about it i can't tell.

 

[pknopp]

What two things?? Why are you being so evasive? It sounds like might actually agree, but you're being so weird about it i can't tell.

The thread title is two things.

 

[Dadoalex]

Which Is Better: Socialism or Capitalism?

Some of my friends have questioned my past affiliation with the Democrat party. I understand the reason for their inquisitiveness. Nevertheless, let me say that there is no similarity between the party of old and the party of no...

www.americanthinker.com

the dems trying to bring almost total socialism to our shores. The govt controlling most means of production and distribution.

Isn't is funny how people think their free?

The government already owns you.
A "tradition" dating back to feudalism when the serfs belonged to the landowners.
You own nothing and everything you do is to benefit the government.

Doubts?

some guy robs a bank
He gets caught and is tried.
At the trial it is not Bank vs The Guy
It is The State vs The Guy.

Work and pay taxes to the State.
Don't pay the taxes and The State will put you in prison after taking all you own.

Buy a property and don't pay the taxes
The State will take your property

Drive too fast and The State fines you
Don't pay the fine and The State puts you in prison

Socialism seeks to turn the power of The State to the benefit of The People.
Capitalism seeks to turn the power of The State to the benefit of the Capitalist.

The real question is
Do you want a government that serves the people or one that serves the capitalist?

 

[dblack]

.The thread title is two things.

Ok. Still have no idea what you're getting at, but I guess that's your preference. Troll on.

 

[Dadoalex]

Capitalism: Even playing field

Socialism: The masses suffers while the elites prosper

It's why Socialism has never worked

Your ignorance of this topic is unparalleled..

 

[Dadoalex]

No comparison.

Capitalism equals freedom, while socialism equals slavery.

Why does this question even need to be asked?

Hundreds of years of attempted socialism has proven this to be true.

I was wrong. You are every bit as ignorant of this topic as SassyIrishLass

 

[Dadoalex]

Because "it hasn't been properly implemented in the US", right?

Actually socialism was fully tested both in the US during the country's inception, and in a proxy American colony in Jametown, Guyana.

And in both cases, socialism not only failed miserably but 440 people died in Jamestown, USA and 900 people died in Jonestown Guyana.

Look upon the facts if you have the balls and humility to accept what socialism realty stands for...

Socialism at Jamestown​

https://www.cato.org/blog/socialism-jamestown


Socialism at Jonetown

"Jonestown was held up as a benevolent communist community, with Jones stating: "I believe we're the purest communists there are."[40] Jones' wife, Marceline, described Jonestown as "dedicated to live for socialism, total economic and racial and social equality. We are here living communally."[40] Jones wanted to construct a model community and claimed that Burnham "couldn't rave enough about us, the wonderful things we do, the project, the model of socialism".[41] Jones did not permit members to leave Jonestown without his express prior permission.[42]

Jonestown - Wikipedia

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What a focqueing dumbass.

Got streets?
Got Police, Fire?
Got airports? Sea ports?
got Army, Navy?

It's all Socialism, dumbass.

jonestown wasn't Socialism.
It was just another form of MAGAT lunacy.