Canada shows our future: 10 dead, 15 injured.

[Smokin' OP]

Right, because we all know how dangerous germophobic people can be.

You can't get SSI disability for being a germaphobe, moron.
People who can't even sign a check, or understand they have to pay their own bills and Trump say's OK, give them a gun.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Why do people need their guns concealed?
Got a legit reason?
What's the problem with open carry?

Open carry induces panic which you can be charged for by the police. You never let a potential enemy know what you have against them. Years ago when I became a black belt, I didn't wear my belt around my pair of jeans to let everybody know. If I was attacked, they'd find out that way, but I'm not about to give them warning.

 

[2aguy]

Who said stop?
Do traffic laws and seat belts, STOP traffic deaths?

Nope, they set up penalties for breaking the law........you guys tell us that our access to guns create mass public shootings, now you want to disavow the fact that you guys own guns but don't have as many shootings....

Here is a clue...you clueless twit...it isn't guns that create gun crime or mass shootings.......

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

HOLY crap.

A surge of stabbings in London was blamed Monday for the city overtaking New York's monthly murder tally for the first time in modern history. Fifteen people were murdered in London during February, compared to 14 in New York, according to police figures.

The British capital also suffered 22 fatal stabbings and shootings in March, higher than the 21 in New York.

In TWO MONTHS out of TWELVE in ONE YEAR.
From 4 YEARS ago.

If disarming people worked so well, it should work all the time, shouldn't it?

 

[Smokin' OP]

No they can't.



Not according to wiki; take it up with them. I just post my evidence.

You're FOS.

Firearms in Canada are federally regulated through the Firearms Act and related provisions of the Criminal Code. Regulation is largely about licensing and registration of firearms, including air guns with a muzzle velocity of more than 500 ft/s or 150 m/s and muzzle energy greater than 4.2 ft⋅lb or 5.7 J.

Handgun registration became law in 1934, and automatic firearms registration was added in 1951. In 1969, laws classified firearms as "non-restricted," "restricted," and "prohibited." Starting in 1979, people who wished to acquire firearms were required to obtain a firearms acquisition certificate (FAC) from their local police agency.

From 1995 to 2012, all firearms owners were required to possess a firearms licence—either a possession and acquisition licence (PAL), a possession-only licence (POL), an FAC, or a minor's licence—and all firearms were required to be registered. In April 2012, the Parliament of Canada enacted the Ending the Long-gun Registry Act to eliminate the requirement to register non-restricted firearms. The requirement for all firearms owners to possess a valid firearms licence remained law.

Canada has much stricter gun laws than the United States, but Canadians are allowed to own firearms providing they have a license. Restricted or prohibited firearms, like handguns, must also be registered.

Canadians must be over 18 and pass a firearms safety course to hold a license, which is renewed every five years.

 

[2aguy]

Yes, there is.

They banned Tommy guns because that was the preferred weapon of gangsters.
People didn't whine then, like the gun nuts are today about banning their preferred weapon.

And the criminals still had the tommy guns......normal people couldn't get them anymore.....you idiot.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Nope, they set up penalties for breaking the law........you guys tell us that our access to guns create mass public shootings, now you want to disavow the fact that you guys own guns but don't have as many shootings....

Here is a clue...you clueless twit...it isn't guns that create gun crime or mass shootings.......

YES, it is, you delusional Q NUT.

 

[whitehall]

Mass stabbing attacks seem to be the favorite terrorist method of Jihadists. I wonder if Canadians realize it.

 

[2aguy]

You're FOS.

Firearms in Canada are federally regulated through the Firearms Act and related provisions of the Criminal Code. Regulation is largely about licensing and registration of firearms, including air guns with a muzzle velocity of more than 500 ft/s or 150 m/s and muzzle energy greater than 4.2 ft⋅lb or 5.7 J.

Handgun registration became law in 1934, and automatic firearms registration was added in 1951. In 1969, laws classified firearms as "non-restricted," "restricted," and "prohibited." Starting in 1979, people who wished to acquire firearms were required to obtain a firearms acquisition certificate (FAC) from their local police agency.

From 1995 to 2012, all firearms owners were required to possess a firearms licence—either a possession and acquisition licence (PAL), a possession-only licence (POL), an FAC, or a minor's licence—and all firearms were required to be registered. In April 2012, the Parliament of Canada enacted the Ending the Long-gun Registry Act to eliminate the requirement to register non-restricted firearms. The requirement for all firearms owners to possess a valid firearms licence remained law.

Canada has much stricter gun laws than the United States, but Canadians are allowed to own firearms providing they have a license. Restricted or prohibited firearms, like handguns, must also be registered.

Canadians must be over 18 and pass a firearms safety course to hold a license, which is renewed every five years.

Again......how does the license prevent someone from committing an act of mass public shooting? Please, we will wait for you to explain that.

So........criminals in Canada wait in a line to get a license for the guns they can't legally own? You twit.

 

[Papageorgio]

No, not eliminate, regulate.
You want to o own a tommy gun, fine, as people do, but the ATF knows who they are.
So, how many of those have been confiscated?

Almost certain................it is 0.

Ok, not sure what your point is.

 

[2aguy]

Why do people need their guns concealed?
Got a legit reason?
What's the problem with open carry?

So that criminals don't know who has them....it discourages them from attacking people......

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You're FOS.

Firearms in Canada are federally regulated through the Firearms Act and related provisions of the Criminal Code. Regulation is largely about licensing and registration of firearms, including air guns with a muzzle velocity of more than 500 ft/s or 150 m/s and muzzle energy greater than 4.2 ft⋅lb or 5.7 J.

Handgun registration became law in 1934, and automatic firearms registration was added in 1951. In 1969, laws classified firearms as "non-restricted," "restricted," and "prohibited." Starting in 1979, people who wished to acquire firearms were required to obtain a firearms acquisition certificate (FAC) from their local police agency.

From 1995 to 2012, all firearms owners were required to possess a firearms licence—either a possession and acquisition licence (PAL), a possession-only licence (POL), an FAC, or a minor's licence—and all firearms were required to be registered. In April 2012, the Parliament of Canada enacted the Ending the Long-gun Registry Act to eliminate the requirement to register non-restricted firearms. The requirement for all firearms owners to possess a valid firearms licence remained law.

Canada has much stricter gun laws than the United States, but Canadians are allowed to own firearms providing they have a license. Restricted or prohibited firearms, like handguns, must also be registered.

Canadians must be over 18 and pass a firearms safety course to hold a license, which is renewed every five years.

So WTF does that have to do with carrying in public. As my link points out, the only people that can carry in public are those licensed to be in possession of a firearm for employment purposes. I'm guessing that most Canadians don't have that kind of job.

 

[Smokin' OP]

If disarming people worked so well, it should work all the time, shouldn't it?

Who the fuck is mentioning disarming people, dumbass?

Oh' the NRA and RWNJ's because a democrat is in office.
Same 40-year-old lie.
Wash, rinse, repeat.

 

[2aguy]

February 15 2018
President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.

The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database.
President Donald Trump has often pointed to mental illness as the underlying cause for mass shootings, but one of his earliest actions as president was to undo a regulation that would have made it more difficult for people with a known mental illness to buy guns.

"Mental health is your problem here. This was a very, based on preliminary reports, a very deranged individual, a lot of problems over a long period of time. We have a lot of mental health problems in our country, as do other countries. But this isn't a guns situation," President Trump said of the First Baptist Church shooting during a joint press conference with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.

Nearly a year ago, on Feb. 28, 2017, President Trump signed H.J. Res. 40, effectively ending the Social Security Administration's requirement to enter the names of people who receive mental health benefits into the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. This is the database used by the FBI to determine who is able to purchase firearms.

Hey...shitstain.....the ACLU asked him to sign that....

Gun Control Laws Should Be Fair

But gun control laws, like any law, should be fair, effective and not based on prejudice or stereotype. This rule met none of those criteria.

In this era of “alternative facts,” we must urge politicians to create laws based on reliable evidence and solid data.

The thousands of Americans whose disability benefits are managed by someone else range from young people with depression and financial inexperience to older adults with Down syndrome needing help with a limited budget. But no data — none — show that these individuals have a propensity for violence in general or gun violence in particular.

To the contrary, studies show that people with mental disabilities are less likely to commit firearm crimes than to be the victimsof violence by others.

--------------------------
The ACLU and 23 national disability groups did not oppose this rule because we want more guns in our community.

This is about more than guns. Adding more innocent Americans to the National Instant Criminal Background database because of a mental disability is a disturbing trend — one that could be applied to voting, parenting or other rights dearer than gun ownership. We opposed it because it would do little to stem gun violence but do much to harm our civil rights.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You can't get SSI disability for being a germaphobe, moron.
People who can't even sign a check, or understand they have to pay their own bills and Trump say's OK, give them a gun.

So how many murders were committed by people that couldn't sign their check? It was just an excuse to disarm law abiding citizens.

Mental Disorders​

If you are suffering from a mental disorder, you can qualify for help. There are 11 total categories:

1. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)
2. Intellectual Disorders
3. Personality/Impulse Control Disorders Disorders
4. Trauma/Stress-Related Disorders
5. Schizophrenia Spectrum and Other Psychotic Disorders
6. Somatic Symptom and Related Disorders
7. Bipolar and Related Disorders
8. Neurocognitive Disorders
9. Eating Disorders
10. Autism Spectrum Disorder
11. Anxiety and Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder

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[Flash]

No, not eliminate, regulate.
You want to o own a tommy gun, fine, as people do, but the ATF knows who they are.
So, how many of those have been confiscated?

Almost certain................it is 0.

You are confused Moon Bat.

The NFA law is Unconstitutional. The fucking government cannot tax a right guaranteed in the Constitution. That was determined when the Supreme Court ruled on the Poll Tax.

Further, in the Miller case, the Supreme Court stated that the Second Amendment protected firearms in general use by the military and "Tommy guns" were certainly used as military weapon in WWII. The same as my M-16 has been used by the military for over 50 years.

Hopefully with this Conservative Supreme Court the filthy NFA law can be overturned. We just need the right case.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Who the fuck is mentioning disarming people, dumbass?

Oh' the NRA and RWNJ's because a democrat is in office.
Same 40-year-old lie.
Wash, rinse, repeat.

Most people in Europe do not own a firearm, and the ones that do can't take them in public for self-defense.

 

[Smokin' OP]

So that criminals don't know who has them....it discourages them from attacking people......

Really?

Literally, the dumbest thing I've ever fucking read.
As gun nuts attack unarmed people?

Give a ballpark figure.
How much $$$ did you send Trump?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

So exactly which USA citizens have been denied their gun ownership rights.

Fucking ZERO Ray, and you know it.
Why do you play so hard for this narrative? Talking Points.

Stop pretending you're not a party of gun grabbers. You have a long history of trying and doing it. You are fooling nobody, including yourself.

 

[Smokin' OP]

You are confused Moon Bat.

The NFA law is Unconstitutional.

You're a confused Q NUT.

The fucking government cannot tax a right guaranteed in the Constitution. That was determined when the Supreme Court ruled on the Poll Tax.

The 5th amendment guarantees a person's right to own property.

Further, in the Miller case, the Supreme Court stated that the Second Amendment protected firearms in general use by the military and "Tommy guns" were certainly used as military weapon in WWII. The same as my M-16 has been used by the military for over 50 years.

THAT'S the supreme court NOT the constitution.
You can't have it both ways, moron.

Hopefully with this Conservative Supreme Court the filthy NFA law can be overturned. We just need the right case.

"Conservative" Supreme Court?
RWNJ's claiming to be conservative, a bunch of puritan religious nut jobs, is what they are.